NGpatriot:
...because they are responsible for creating the same one Nigeria they hypocritically cry, shout and moan that they don't like today.

Only ibo people in the South wanted one Nigeria and decided to created Nigeria as a country, they even refused to insert secession language into the founding document that created Nigeria, they unilaterally made sure that Nigeria remains unbreakable, at least not easily.

When things did not go their way because they foolishly teamed up with the North to create Nigeria simply based on their usual childish emotions and sentiments and to spite the Yoruba people, instead of sound strategies and self-preservation.

When things did not go their way, they entered their usual self-destructive mode and deployed violence and bloodbath, they slaughtered military and political leaders from the North and SW. The North and the SW still installed an ibo man to be the next head of state while hoping and expecting him to do the right thing by punishing the sadistic murderers, but as usual, the ibo tribal and clannish mentality kicked in, he refused to even slap the blood thirsty murderers abd coup plotters on the wrist, this quickly showed the North that ibo people can not and never be trusted to do the right thing because with ibo people, the tribe comes first, so the North took matters into their own hands and slaughtered thousands of ibo people in the process, just imagine, you killed Northern leaders and still danced and celebrated in the North in front of Northerners., that was actually not the last straw.

Ibo people looked at their dominance within the civil service and decided to consolidate power into their hands, so the foolish ibo head of state quickly abolished regionalism, forgetting that power is transient and not stationary, the greed and self-serving scheme you created today is another man's tool to use against you when you are out of power tomorrow.

The North smelled blood and cornered the powerful center that ibo people created to retain and remain power, while blocking ibo people from ever getting to the center or anywhere near power because ibo people showed their dirty hands too many times to show the rest of the country how mean, callous, tribal and untrustworthy they can be.

Ibo people are sad victims of their own ways and creators of their own hopeless destiny.

They set Nigeria on a dangerous path from the beginning, when trust was golden and cherished.

They are reaping what they sow.

Guy, this ur comment really summed up every thing. U said nothing but the truth.

Nnamdi Azikiwe was the first useless Igbo man, then to ironsi that ended regional govt cos he felt Igbo were most in federal civil service. And the last of ojukwu, he was the one that fought the ogoni with everything when they tried to break out. Not even up to 3 years, he now wants to break out of the same country, isn't that the highest height of foolishness?

Blaze14k:


Dave umahi is one of the finest governors in southeast. If he contest for president under any political party that is not pdp or apc will you vote for him? Its a simple question dont twist it just gimme yes or no.

No,never.

NGpatriot:
...because they are responsible for creating the same one Nigeria they hypocritically cry, shout and moan that they don't like today.

Only ibo people in the South wanted one Nigeria and decided to created Nigeria as a country, they even refused to insert secession language into the founding document that created Nigeria, they unilaterally made sure that Nigeria remains unbreakable, at least not easily.

When things did not go their way because they foolishly teamed up with the North to create Nigeria simply based on their usual childish emotions and sentiments and to spite the Yoruba people, instead of sound strategies and self-preservation.

When things did not go their way, they entered their usual self-destructive mode and deployed violence and bloodbath, they slaughtered military and political leaders from the North and SW. The North and the SW still installed an ibo man to be the next head of state while hoping and expecting him to do the right thing by punishing the sadistic murderers, but as usual, the ibo tribal and clannish mentality kicked in, he refused to even slap the blood thirsty murderers abd coup plotters on the wrist, this quickly showed the North that ibo people can not and never be trusted to do the right thing because with ibo people, the tribe comes first, so the North took matters into their own hands and slaughtered thousands of ibo people in the process, just imagine, you killed Northern leaders and still danced and celebrated in the North in front of Northerners., that was actually not the last straw.

Ibo people looked at their dominance within the civil service and decided to consolidate power into their hands, so the foolish ibo head of state quickly abolished regionalism, forgetting that power is transient and not stationary, the greed and self-serving scheme you created today is another man's tool to use against you when you are out of power tomorrow.

The North smelled blood and cornered the powerful center that ibo people created to retain and remain power, while blocking ibo people from ever getting to the center or anywhere near power because ibo people showed their dirty hands too many times to show the rest of the country how mean, callous, tribal and untrustworthy they can be.

Ibo people are sad victims of their own ways and creators of their own hopeless destiny.

They set Nigeria on a dangerous path from the beginning, when trust was golden and cherished.

They are reaping what they sow.

In all that you said you forgot that the north are very paranoid people. They find it very hard to trust other tribe. Look at how you twisted every details of what actually happened. I dont want to go into details of what major general aguiyi ironsi did to make sure this country was healed. They even went as far as killing the military governor of the west colonel francis. Now since they feel igbos cant be trust how have they improved the country and make it a better place for you and I?

I would only choose to give my opinion on this when we as Nigerians finally stop being insulting about other people's issues...


I feel for you igbos seriously, but the problem of our Nation as a whole is just to concerning, this is just your own bit of a bigger colossal issue with our nation


Hmmm

I feel for the igbos sometimes tho. They are purely marginalized in their own country.

helinues:
What have other regions done to warrant daily Insult from Igbos?

Sheer hypocrisy is when you mastered things you condemned or accused others for.

Two can play the game

Thank you OOO. Igbos always playing victim when it is their offensive ways that makes others host disdain for them.

OP asked a question and first response by his Igbo compatriot shows exactly what irritates others about Igbos.

Abeg, what success for fck sake? Is the comment below not typical Igbo incendiary and thoughtlessly offensive nonsense?

vanbonattel:
Success breeds contempt.

Aku bu ilo

vanbonattel:
Success breeds contempt.

Aku bu ilo

Mumu. Achebe was talking to you and Igbos like you which would be 99% of Igbos.

What "success", for example, do you have in politics, law, entertainment, property development and many, many fields you lag behind others yet never have the humility to give credit to your fellow human beings?

the dangers of hubris, overweening pride, and thoughtlessness, which invite envy and hatred or, even worse, than can obsess the mind with material success and dispose it to all kinds of crude showiness. There is no doubt at all that there is a strand in contemporary Igbo behavior that can offend by its noisy exhibitionism and disregard for humility and quietness.” - Chinua Achebe

Karleb:
I feel for the igbos sometimes tho. They are purely marginalized in their own country.

Who isn't marginalized in this country?

Even amongst politicians, there's marginalization.

Karleb:
I feel for the igbos sometimes tho. They are purely marginalized in their own country.

How do some of you reason? Are they "marginalized" or are they the cause of their ethnic group being ostracized, distrusted and disdained?

Azikiwe worked deliberately and treacherously to frustrate Awolowo's effort to include a secession clause in our constitution yet arrogant Igbos have the nerve to claim "they won't let us go" today feigning ignorance of how Azikiwe's greedy and conniving action trapped them in Nigeria with no escape route.

Did Igbos want to go when, as Azikiwe claimed, every Igbo believed they had the "God-ordained" right to lead other Africans?


Igbos organized a coup and ethnically cleansed the leaders of others while sparring their own. Do you know what that did to the psyche of Nigeria and the instability it caused?

Ojukwu, out of greed for SS oil, arrogantly and lawlessly declared Biafra, against our constitution, and plunged Nigeria into war yet I have never met a single Igbo who blames that egocentric maniac for self-inflicted losses that befell Igbo as a result of the civil war.

It is Awolowo, Buhari, Danjuma, Adekunle, OBJ etal Igbos prefer to blame and savage for defending their Country in a war.

What else shows an unreasonable people more than that? Is war, that Igbos callously plunged Nigeria into, a tea Party?

Aguiyi Ironsi and his unification decree nko? The killer of regionalism and virtually the biggest mistake responsible for all Nigeria's problem today and done because, typically, the greedy Igbo man wanted total control over the lives and resources of others?

Till today Igbo , whether Kanu or the average street Igbo, never stop arrogantly claiming SS in their Biafra lunacy.

Kanu the liar and demented megalomaniac said Buhari offered him Biafra without the SS and he rejected it. Imagine the sheer arrogance !!!!

What is the population of the SS for Kanu to be attempting to 'comandeer' their existence and annex the future of the region in the same way Ojukwu attempted doing decades ago? Does anything ever change with Igbos? Are they a people who get better over time or learn from mistakes?

I could go on but point is clear. Igbos have done a lot of offensive things to other Nigerians, and they keep doing it to date, but apologizing and healing wounds is never an option for Igbos.

Playing victim , blaming all else, insulting other Nigerians and trying to humilate them is the preferred option for Igbos. Igbo man should look in the mirror abeg and stop dissturbing us with silly threads like this one. This is not 1954.

Dsalvo:



How do some of you reason? Are they "marginalized" or are they the cause of their ethnic group being ostracized, distrusted and disdained?

Azikiwe worked deliberately and treahcerously to frustrate Awolowo's effort to include a secession clause in our constotution yet arrogant Igbos have the nerve to claim "they won't let us go" today feigning ignorance of how Azikiwe's greedy and conniving actiin trapped them in Nigeria with no escape route.

Did Igbos want to go when, as Azikiwe claimed, every Igbo believed they had the "God-ordained" right to lead other Africans?


Igbos organized a coup and ethnically cleansed the leaders of others while sparring their own. Do you know what that did to the psyche of Nigeria and the instability it caused?

Ojukwu, out of greed for SS oil, arrogantly and lawlessly declared Biafra, against our constitution, and plunged Nigeria into war yet I have never met a single Igbo who blames that egocentric maniac rather for self-inflictex losses that befell Igbo as a result of the civil war.

It is Awolowo, Buhari, Danjuma, Adekunle, OBJ etal Igbos prefer to blame and savage for defending their Country in a war.

What else shows an unreasonable people more than that? Is war, that Igbos callously plunged Nigeria into, a tea Party?

Aguiyi Ironsi and his unification decree nko? Virtually the biggest mistake responsible for all Nigeria's problem today and done because, typically, the greedy Igbo man wanted total control over the lives and resources of others?

Till today Igbo , whether Kanu or the average street Igbo, never stop arrogantly claiming SS in their Biafra lunacy.

Kanu the liar and demented megalomaniac said Buhari offered him Biafra without the SS and he rejected it. Imagine the sheer arrogance !!!!

What is the population of the SS for Kanu to be attempting to 'comandeer' their existence and annex the future of the region in sthe same way Ojukwu attempted decades ago? Does anything ever change with Igbos? Are they a people who get better over time or learn from mistakes?

I could go on but point is clear. Igbos have done a lot of offensive things to other Nigeria, and they keep doing it to date, but apologizing and healing wounds is never an option for Igbos.

Playing victim , blaming all else, insulting other Nigerians and trying to humilate them is the preferred option for Igbos. Igbo man should look in the mirror abeg and stop dissturbing us with silly threads like this one. This is not 1954.

It's a new year, please don't quote me to write trashy long epistles.

Karleb:


It's a new year, please don't quote me to write trashy long epistles.

Abeg get lost. You can talk yet you don't want a response, a truthful one at that, to your one-sided and ignorant opinion that seeks to put Igbos in the role of victims.

Typical Igbo.

Karleb:


It's a new year, please don't quote me to write trashy long epistles.

Bro the write up gave me serious head.. i dont even know where to begin to make him understand he is actually the problem

Dsalvo:


Abeg get lost. You can talk yet you don't want a response, a truthful one at that, to your one-sided and ignorant opinion that seeks to put Igbos in the role of victims.

Typical Igbo.

Who is this person?

You can write your epistles with mentioning me, but if you should mention me then you will be civil.

Blaze14k:


Bro the write up gave me serious head.. i dont even know where to begin to make him understand he is actually the problem

No mind am. Marginalization is always sweet until it gets to you.

I blame the Igbo leaders sha, many of them lack can not see beyond their noses.

Why's IPOB killing igbos

DubaiLandLord:
Nobody is stopping the Igbos from leaving Nigeria

Just do it through the right way

Please proffer one for the record.

Blaze14k:


Oga what u pointed out is far from reach. The north comprise of 19 states while the south is 17 states. We have northwest, northeast and north central who speak same language. Whereas the southern part speak different languages. If not Obasanjo and Goodluck who else lasted a tenor to contest another election.

Let us go back to the six geophysical zones and allow every region to have autonomy of their resources then pay tax to federal government so that power will be evenly distributed. Dont you understand that 1999 constitution was as scam they dont wish to correct. The other day buhari refused to to sign the amended electoral bill but quickly sign the budget yet both of them have error. He can do whatever he likes because power is not evenly distributed.

who changed Nigeria from regionalism to federalism?

NGpatriot:
...because they are responsible for creating the same one Nigeria they hypocritically cry, shout and moan that they don't like today.

Only ibo people in the South wanted one Nigeria and decided to created Nigeria as a country, they even refused to insert secession language into the founding document that created Nigeria, they unilaterally made sure that Nigeria remains unbreakable, at least not easily.

When things did not go their way because they foolishly teamed up with the North to create Nigeria simply based on their usual childish emotions and sentiments and to spite the Yoruba people, instead of sound strategies and self-preservation.

When things did not go their way, they entered their usual self-destructive mode and deployed violence and bloodbath, they slaughtered military and political leaders from the North and SW. The North and the SW still installed an ibo man to be the next head of state while hoping and expecting him to do the right thing by punishing the sadistic murderers, but as usual, the ibo tribal and clannish mentality kicked in, he refused to even slap the blood thirsty murderers abd coup plotters on the wrist, this quickly showed the North that ibo people can not and never be trusted to do the right thing because with ibo people, the tribe comes first, so the North took matters into their own hands and slaughtered thousands of ibo people in the process, just imagine, you killed Northern leaders and still danced and celebrated in the North in front of Northerners., that was actually not the last straw.

Ibo people looked at their dominance within the civil service and decided to consolidate power into their hands, so the foolish ibo head of state quickly abolished regionalism, forgetting that power is transient and not stationary, the greed and self-serving scheme you created today is another man's tool to use against you when you are out of power tomorrow.

The North smelled blood and cornered the powerful center that ibo people created to retain and remain power, while blocking ibo people from ever getting to the center or anywhere near power because ibo people showed their dirty hands too many times to show the rest of the country how mean, callous, tribal and untrustworthy they can be.

Ibo people are sad victims of their own ways and creators of their own hopeless destiny.

They set Nigeria on a dangerous path from the beginning, when trust was golden and cherished.

They are reaping what they sow.

God bless you, happy new year!

Blaze14k:


Bro the write up gave me serious head.. i dont even know where to begin to make him understand he is actually the problem

Why won't it give you serious whatever? You lot are allergic to the truth. All you people like are lies, blatantly fraudulent revision of history and playing the victim every day with total disinterest in admitting your wrongdoings.

I will give you an example even an unfair person like you cannot deny as it happened recently and not in 1967.

What did Igbos do when invited to join fhe APC merger? They committed themselves to insulting the Party, demonizing it's image home and abroad plus rejecting the Party outright for their usual politics of hate enmity and tribalism.

Now that APC became the ruling Party without
any input from Igbos, how are you lot behaving?

Today Igbos are blackmailing everyone in the APC, especially Yorubas who paid their dues diligently , to step aside and let them have a Presidential ticket they do not deserve.

If APC reject Igbos would that be "marginalization" or deserved fate for a people who are dishonest, dishonourable, hateful and always happy to reap where they have not sown?

I never see a single Igbo condemning the parochial and dishonourable action of Igbos. Instead it is to be attacking Tinubu and all Yorubas in the APC while they do not have the nerve to tackle Fulanis in the PDP who have told them blatantly not to even think of getting the Party's ticket.

There is no "marginalization". Just distrust for what everyone knows the Igbos have shown themselves capable of doing.

Dsalvo:


Why won't it give you serious whatever? You lot are allergic to the truth. All you people like are lies, blatantly fraudulent revision of history and playing the victim every day with total disinterest in admitting your wrongdoings.

I will give you an example even an unfair person like you cannot deny as it happened recently and not in 1967.

What did Igbos do when invited to join fhe APC merger? They committed themselves to insulting the Party, demonizing it's image home and abroad plus rejecting the Party outright for their usual politics of hate enmity and tribalism.

Now that APC became the ruling Party without
any input from Igbos, how are you lot behaving?

Today Igbos are blackmailing everyone in the APC, especially Yorubas who paid their dues diligently , to step aside and let them have a Presidential ticket they do not deserve.

If APC reject Igbos would that be "marginalization" or deserved fate for a people who are dishonest, dishonourable, hateful and always happy to reap where they have not sown?

I never see a single Igbo condemning the parochial and dishonourable action of Igbos. Instead it is to be attacking Tinubu and all Yorubas in the APC while they do not have the nerve to tackle Fulanis in the PDP who have told them blatantly not to even think of getting the Parties ticket.

There is no "marginalization". Just distrust for what everyone knows the Igbos have shown themselves capable of doing.

Sheh this apc you talking is the one buhari belongs to.. the candidate they chose to contest for president was a massive failure. The only place i can say he tried is infrastructure nothing more. Then tinubu is now clamouring for that same ticket of which nigerians will still remain in agony if he wins. All these grammar you dey talk na smoke screen. The likes of peter obi, dave umahi and ifeanyi ugwanyi are one of the finest politicians we have in nigeria but because we cant be trust as usual they are scared. Bro i want u to know that this politics we are talking about is personal interest,, nigeria is not ready. Do you know the gdp growth of Ethiopia before they started having crisis. And we are here deceiving ourselves.

nabiz:
what a useless Nigeria politics. Igbos are playing international politics and are winning more than any other ethnic groups all over the world. Nigerian politics is uncivilized

What is international politics?
All Nations have their political culture and approaches.
In Nigeria, where Igbos only exist unless as migrants somewhere you are extremely primitive. Igbos don't know how to manage Nigerian politics. The dumbest of all politicians in Nigeria can win election in advanced Nations.
Politics in Nigeria need lots of consultations, collaboration, extending hand of friendships but not insults, abuse, threats and all sort of mediocrity ur people do.
Power isn't given on a platter of gold!

DubaiLandLord:
Ojuku and Ironsi attacked Adaka Boro and his men because they seceded from Nigeria, but this same Ojuku felt he did nothing wrong in seceding with Igbo land and taking Rivers and Cross River along.

Ojuku could have left with the East Central State alone.

And again, nobody is stopping or holding the Igbos from leaving Nigeria.

Most of you want to leave, yet, majority of the people in Anambra voted for APGA, a party that does not believe in seccesion... What sort of joke is that?

The English politicians were not the ones to ask for referendum on behalf of the Scottish

The Spanish politicians are not the ones asking for referendum in Catalonia.

British didn't ask for Nigeria to become and independent country, it was Nigerian Politicians that fought for it

So why should a Yoruba Politicians ask for biafla on behalf of Ibos? Is so stupid for any ibo man to believe nah someone else go ask for referendum on behalf of Ibos.

I didn't send my Politician to National Assembly to ask for referendum on behalf of anybody.

Stop educating Bingos....

Bingo, who is stopping you from leaving, contesting for Presidency or stopping you from asking for referendum ??.........

Your problem is you think, you can arm-twist others to give you the Presidency without going through the process of electioneering, the reason being that you have made enemies outta those you expecting votes from..........you insult the Northerners, and Yoruba daily yet u want them to give you the Presidency on a platter of gold, or ask for referendum on your behalf.....are you normal ?

get your governors, and other representatives to ask for Referendum on your behalf, and see if we dont ask our own representatives to support so u can park your load, and leave......

you want to leave yet you cant do without Nigeria, you expecting to stay in the "Zoo" abi

Karleb:
I feel for the igbos sometimes tho. They are purely marginalized in their own country.

Marginalize by who ?? Cant they hold their Governors and representatives accountable ??

Idiko1:


Please proffer one for the record.

OPTION 1
Elect people who will go to the National Assembly with that agenda
Elect governors who are committed to that agenda , Elect members of the House of Assembly with similar thinking
Pass resolutions calling for a referendum
Failure to elect such people indicates that it is a minority and unpopular view
In Scotland the ruling Party is the Scottish National Party with a clear independence agenda
Why can't IPOB do the same?
OPTION 2
Go to war again

Blaze14k:



The likes of peter obi, dave umahi and ifeanyi ugwanyi are one of the finest politicians we have in nigeria

What criteria did you use to determine this

Name one achievement they have that the people of Kogi State or Lagos State are desperate for them to replicate

Karleb:
I feel for the igbos sometimes tho. They are purely marginalized in their own country.

Read this if you genuinely want to learn about marginalization

https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan

aribisala0:

OPTION 1
Elect people who will go to the National Assembly with that agenda
Elect governors who are committed to that agenda , Elect members of the House of Assembly with similar thinking
Pass resolutions calling for a referendum
Failure to elect such people indicates that it is a minority and unpopular view
In Scotland the ruling Party is the Scottish National Party with a clear independence agenda
Why can't IPOB do the same?
OPTION 2
Go to war again

How can you compare a system that works and a system that is rubber stamp? Common constitutional review and amendment is very difficult. How on earth do you think they will allow us to infiltrate the lower and upper chamber? Instead pdp and apc will merge and fight tooth and nail. What u are saying is nearly impossible and u know it.

Blaze14k:


How can you compare a system that works and a system that is rubber stamp? Common constitutional review and amendment is very difficult. How on earth do you think they will allow us to infiltrate the lower and upper chamber? Instead pdp and apc will merge and fight tooth and nail. What u are saying is nearly impossible and u know it.

I answered the question asked.

Now you say you do not like the answer.
First you must establish that that is what the people of the region want. Do you dispute that?
If no how do we determine what the people want?


Who said it will be easy? It is not supposed to be

The options I have given you are the only options
Go to war or use politics.



So because Nnamdi Kanu started making noise we should believe that is what Ibos want? Is that fair to those who are voting governors etc condemning IPOB?

The bottomline is that you have to rise up and start talking and acting like adults. This is not child's play . Put sentiment to one side and act rationally

aribisala0:

What criteria did you use to determine this

Name one achievement they have that the people of Kogi State or Lagos State are desperate for them to replicate

Good governance, the ability to manage the little resources u have at ur disposal and still keep ppl happy. If you have ever heard of ebony state of which i doubt u have, go there and receive the biggest shock of ur life i dont need to mention his achievements the evidence is glaring