You're only 4 times more populated than Kenya - with twice the land size - and mostly arable. That tell you in kenya we live in more densely populated areas - with about 2/3 of the country sparely populated.

Keep in agricluture. How can you explain Nigeria being top here?

What is the trick?

How did you do it? I mean people go to Brazil for lesson on tropical farming - you're like an hidden gem of success of agriclutural revolution


I wish this was true

CSTRR:

Well, China and India have GDPs in Trillions of dollars.

They have much higher resources than Nigeria and even then they import loads of food.

So relatively, it's the same kind of problem.

We can do much better of course.

But sorry, Kenya will never understand what it means to be a highly populated country.

It's a much different reality from the fantasy dreamlands of tiny sparse countries of East Africa living a kumbaya existence and with no real potential.

rvp2018:
Your rice stats like everything remain cooked until you stop smuggling tonnes of rice from Thailand, India, Veitnam and such via Cameroon and Benin.

Nigeria has blocked the borders to ensure local producers of rice get a fair deal in the local market.

Even till now, our borders are still locked to check smuggling.

Smuggling is not a govt sanctioned activity.

But then the local production it seems cannot even satisfy the local market.

Rice is a staple food eaten by 200 million people.

That is humongous.

Yes smuggling has gone down - at least Benin as dropped from being world biggest importer of rice - you can imagine tiny country of 10M people importing so much rice.
http://www.thairiceexporters.or.th/export%20by%20country%202021.html

Now explain to me how much rice do you eat? It seems to be a lot - assuming there is any serious local production.

Something is off in your rice consumption per capita.

CSTRR:

Nigeria has blocked the borders to ensure local producers of rice get a fair deal in the local market.

Even till now, our borders are still locked to check smuggling.

Smuggling is not a govt sanctioned activity.

But then the local production it seems cannot even satisfy the local market.

Rice is a staple food eaten by 200 million people.

That is humongous.

rvp2018:
Yes smuggling has gone down - at least Benin as dropped from being world biggest importer of rice - you can imagine tiny country of 10M people importing so much rice.
http://www.thairiceexporters.or.th/export%20by%20country%202021.html

Now explain to me how much rice do you eat? It seems to be a lot - assuming there is any serious local production.

Something is off in your rice consumption per capita.

200 million people eat rice.
It's consumed everywhere, in every occasion.

It's not easy to satisfy the Nigerian market for rice.
Even when there was high imports, there was still local production.
The market is huge.

When we go to the market to buy, the sellers usually ask if we want local rice or foreign rice.

But now the govt is confident in the local producers and so we have blocked the borders.

Buhari is determined to ensure that we either grow all the rice we eat or we don't eat rice at all

Kazikazi:
Son,I don't understand since am illiterate

Do u wanna say Naija has big agri sector than Brazil and mexico? Are u sure these stats are coming from naija gov?

Nigerian GDP is about 450 Billion dollars. Agriculture sector is 24% of that which is about 108 Billion dollars. Brazil's agricultural GDP is about 119 billion dollars ( if I'm not mistaken).

Shma:


Obama is a Kenyan by origin. I guess it pains you because he's not white.

nope, he has Kenyan heritage.... He is American by origin

Shma:


I was putting across a factual point. If you want to cry or die, proceed. I don't care about your feelings on the same. The bottom line is that the world has been ruled by a Kenyan brain. ..

born, grew up and educated in the US......but by your logic Roger Federer and JRR Tolkien are South African... No?

rvp2018:
True..but this time for good...they have sorted their structural issues...they have more people at 100M and have better fundamentals.
South Africa will remain at 350-400B - middle class trap - in the medium term.

with the current political climate I highly doubt that

Also what better "fundamentals"..... do you even think before typing?

jl115:
born, grew up and educated in the US......but by your logic Roger Federer and JRR Tolkien are South African... No?

I don't care where he grew. He's a Kenyan by DNA - he has a Kenya brain - this is what we're talking about.

You like arguing from point of ignorance....this is South Africa Treasury making projections

Last decade - almost 0 to 1 percent growth.
2019 -0.9%
2020 - contracted 6.4%
2021 - Will be 5.1% - not fully recovered to 2019
2022 - 1.8 - will fully recover back pre-covid levels.
2023 - 1.6
2024 - 1.7

Conclusion - gdp will be stuck at 300-400B (depending on the USD-Rand) - gdp per capita stuck - hardly above the 1.3 percent population growth rate.

The treasury projected real economic growth of 5.1% for 2021 — coming off a low base after contracting by 6.4% in 2020 — and 1.8% in 2022, compared with 2021 February budget review estimates of 3.3% and 2.2% respectively. Real GDP growth is expected to moderate to 1.6% in 2023 before ticking up to 1.7% in 2024
https://mg.co.za/business/2021-11-11-medium-term-budget-economic-growth-prospects-remain-bleak/

This world bank

The World Bank has cut South Africa’s growth forecast for 2019 through to 2021, citing weak investor sentiment and lingering policy uncertainty. Growth for 2019 is now projected at 0.8%, half a percentage point lower than April’s forecast and unchanged from 2018, according to the bank’s October Africa’s Pulse report.

Growth is expected to hit 1% in 2020, 0.7 percentage points lower than the previous forecast, and 1.3% in 2021, again half a percentage point lower than prior estimates.

jl115:
with the current political climate I highly doubt that

Also what better "fundamentals"..... do you even think before typing?

CSTRR:

Don't worry, wait till it gets to $1trillion.

You will cry tears then.

What will trigger that? Let's try to be realistic; Oil has lost value, your companies are collapsing, your productivity rate is dwindling..
unless you're talking of 1000yrs to come.

Shma:


We're talking about the productivity rate, your country is shrinking, Kenya is growing as usual. Focus!

Small - non-mineral economy, but we're doing better than Nigeria. Your country is stagnant - take lagos for instance, a zoo that you claimed to be having more GDP than Kenya, can't even smell a city of less than $50b.

I don't care about AFCTA. Don't be deluded too. Nigeria is known as a failed state, don't expect anybody to get worried about your absence.

Bring Abuja - your capital city, let's compare it with Mombasa, the second biggest. You'll realize that those figures are inflated. Despite your city having nearly the same population as Kenya, you're still struggling to maintain your city's economy. Which at max should be $7b... Mombasa is doing better than Abuja, and Nakuru is doing pretty much better than both - your logic does not hold water.

Is Kenya overrated? I didn't know that? I thought we're underrated and we need to do more to earn recognition. But luckily, papers and data put us on the map, so we good.

Your economy is fueled by population - oil is irrelevant in 2021, expect a huge loss in revenue. Your economic growth rate is dropping year in year out - your zoo was relevant when oil was everything.

Lol you are one olodo,noise making miscreant.
Let me play your game. You said our gdp is cooked just cos our cities can’t compete with SA cities and our Gdp’s are quite close(this goes to show you know nothing about gdp and annual economic output). The gdp of Morocco and Kenya is quite close(a smaller gap than Nigeria and SA) ,can you be kind enough to tell me why no Nairobi can’t compete with even thier fifth tier city.
Lolp

Casablanca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FssA43a3cvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Q1w2-1rh4

Marrakech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsnRSr7LxII

Rabat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8riACrrWVi8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhIb-0SyaKY


Tangiers


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCmk3jUAotA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMOaix3tkCk

Shma:


What will trigger that? Let's try to be realistic; Oil has lost value, your companies are collapsing, your productivity rate is dwindling..
unless you're talking of 1000yrs to come.

Mumu oil price is soaring higher,keep dreaming olodo.

Shma:


What will trigger that? Let's try to be realistic; Oil has lost value, your companies are collapsing, your productivity rate is dwindling..
unless you're talking of 1000yrs to come.

the manufacturing industry in Nigeria alone is bigger than Kenya.
Agriculture same

Now, wail with dignity at least

Shma:


We're talking about the productivity rate, your country is shrinking, Kenya is growing as usual. Focus!

Small - non-mineral economy, but we're doing better than Nigeria. Your country is stagnant - take lagos for instance, a zoo that you claimed to be having more GDP than Kenya, can't even smell a city of less than $50b.

I don't care about AFCTA. Don't be deluded too. Nigeria is known as a failed state, don't expect anybody to get worried about your absence.

Bring Abuja - your capital city, let's compare it with Mombasa, the second biggest. You'll realize that those figures are inflated. Despite your city having nearly the same population as Kenya, you're still struggling to maintain your city's economy. Which at max should be $7b... Mombasa is doing better than Abuja, and Nakuru is doing pretty much better than both - your logic does not hold water.

Is Kenya overrated? I didn't know that? I thought we're underrated and we need to do more to earn recognition. But luckily, papers and data put us on the map, so we good.

Your economy is fueled by population - oil is irrelevant in 2021, expect a huge loss in revenue. Your economic growth rate is dropping year in year out - your zoo was relevant when oil was everything.

The fact that we refused to sign Afcta and it restricted it from taking off shows our influence and power on this continent. I remember the whole of Africa sending delegates to come and beg buhari in Abuja.even Kenyatta did.

samorobo:


Mumu oil price is soaring higher,keep dreaming olodo.

Do you have the brain to interpret what you have posted?


What is soaring here?

Shma:


We're talking about the productivity rate, your country is shrinking, Kenya is growing as usual. Focus!

Small - non-mineral economy, but we're doing better than Nigeria. Your country is stagnant - take lagos for instance, a zoo that you claimed to be having more GDP than Kenya, can't even smell a city of less than $50b.

I don't care about AFCTA. Don't be deluded too. Nigeria is known as a failed state, don't expect anybody to get worried about your absence.

Bring Abuja - your capital city, let's compare it with Mombasa, the second biggest. You'll realize that those figures are inflated. Despite your city having nearly the same population as Kenya, you're still struggling to maintain your city's economy. Which at max should be $7b... Mombasa is doing better than Abuja, and Nakuru is doing pretty much better than both - your logic does not hold water.

Is Kenya overrated? I didn't know that? I thought we're underrated and we need to do more to earn recognition. But luckily, papers and data put us on the map, so we good.

Your economy is fueled by population - oil is irrelevant in 2021, expect a huge loss in revenue. Your economic growth rate is dropping year in year out - your zoo was relevant when oil was everything.

Nigeria economy is not shrinking idiot,it’s growing.I have told you to avoid economics like a plague,it’s never your forte.

CSTRR:

Our economy is fueled by population?

Really?

So population will suddenly translate into money?

You don't know that you have to feed and provide Jobs and healthcare for that population?

You don't know that you have to maintain security and safety for such a large population?

You are a clown.

Your country is a tiny insignificant country.
I shouldn't even be talking to you.

You people don't own anything in your tiny economy.

Preach!!!

samorobo:


Lol you are one olodo,noise making miscreant.
Let me play your game. You said our gdp is cooked just cos our cities can’t compete with SA cities and our Gdp’s are quite close(this goes to show you know nothing about gdp and annual economic output). The gdp of Morocco and Kenya is quite close(a smaller gap than Nigeria and SA) ,can you be kind enough to tell me why no Nairobi can’t compete with even thier fifth tier city.

Casablanca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FssA43a3cvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Q1w2-1rh4

Marrakech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsnRSr7LxII

Rabat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8riACrrWVi8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhIb-0SyaKY


Tangiers


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCmk3jUAotA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMOaix3tkCk

Morocco is one great country ... It's architecture is unique

CSTRR:
With the dangote petrochemical and fertilizer plants set to open this year.

Nigeria would be the largest manufacturing of fertilizers in Africa, exporting to Africa, America and Brazil.

That is what manufacturing looks like.

The dangote thingy alone will make our economy unstoppable.

IGpro1:
the manufacturing industry in Nigeria alone is bigger than Kenya.
Agriculture same

Now, wail with dignity at least

You might be ahead but not with that extremely overlooked data on paper.

Shma:


You're the clown here, basic economy should have taught you about demography.
Population growth increases density and, together with rural-urban migration, creates higher urban agglomeration. Urban areas are key places that fuels economic growth - companies, retail spaces, rapid transport system are all part of this, so don't bring ignorance.

You have 5 times our population, it's a no-brainer that your economy should play 5times ours. But then again, nothing to reflect facts on the ground.

Smh olodo

rvp2018:
Cooking GDP requires some brains....Nigeria claim to have big agricluture than these countries. TOTALLY CRAP. Agricluture as sector is 100B plus and as industry is 250B

Nigeria a society of fraudsters - their gov is fraud - their citizen are fraudsters.

How on earth can you claim to have bigger agricluture than Brazil or US or very close to the ENTIRE EUROPE?

All powered by hoes - cassava, millet, yams and plantain -

as expected .

That's the percentage Agric sector contributes to the GDP. Our Agric sector may contribute a higher percentage to our GDP but may not be bigger than others since services is the largest contributor to developed nations GDP.

I don't expect lil things like this to be a resident in ur numbskull.

Rabat is small city of 0.5M people. Nairobi is modern city of 4M plus 7m in the Metro. Nairobi looks okay to me

samorobo:


Lol you are one olodo,noise making miscreant.
Let me play your game. You said our gdp is cooked just cos our cities can’t compete with SA cities and our Gdp’s are quite close(this goes to show you know nothing about gdp and annual economic output). The gdp of Morocco and Kenya is quite close(a smaller gap than Nigeria and SA) ,can you be kind enough to tell me why no Nairobi can’t compete with even thier fifth tier city.

Casablanca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FssA43a3cvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Q1w2-1rh4

Marrakech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsnRSr7LxII

Rabat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8riACrrWVi8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhIb-0SyaKY


Tangiers


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCmk3jUAotA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMOaix3tkCk

Look at the value column - almajiri graduate

theenchanter:
as expected .

That's the percentage Agric sector contributes to the GDP. Our Agric sector may contribute a higher percentage to our GDP but may not be bigger than others since services is the largest contributor to developed nations GDP.

I don't expect lil things like this to be a resident in ur numbskull.

theenchanter:
shut up economics master. Why is China's economy not 5x that of US?

Right

rvp2018:
Rabat is small city of 0.5M people. Nairobi is modern city of 4M plus 7m in the Metro. Nairobi looks okay to me

But nothing compared to Rabat. Morocco cities looks like an extension of Europe. One would expect your zoo to have 5 Casablanca cities all over Kenya but no you have just the third world look Nairobi despite close gdp figures.pls start explain so you can have the taste of your own medicine.

CSTRR:
Listen to the founder of Andela and Flutterwave talking about the Nigerian tech outlook for the year 2022.

He spoke about the "Nigerian start-up Bill" which is the most comprehensive tech law in Africa set to be passed this year by the national assembly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4s4xgWs5Wk

I regret missing out on andela four years back.most Andela staffs are world class developers now and are gradually rolling Silicon Valley.

rvp2018:
Look at the value column - almajiri graduate

u're a just a microcosm of Kenyans here and I hope it doesn't translate to all d good people of Kenya.

Nigeria had 21% Agric to GDP but got $236m from it.
Brazil had only 6% Agric to GDP but got $214m from it..... Which is bigger between the two?

Simple Mathematics for u this new year.

Shma:


Domestic savings and foreign investment are the key drivers of china economy, It's evidently clear even on the ground. Population doesn't largely influence economic growth on developed countries more than it does to developing countries.

Olodo I have told you to avoid economics like a plague.See you confusing and contradicting yourself. For starters china is not a developed country but a developing country like Africa .Her gdp per capita should be slightly higher than those of SA,Namibia and the likes.

CSTRR:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE2Tt-TfhJI

Tony elumelu foundation giving $5000 to 1000 African entrepreneurs selected all across the entire 54 African countries, including kenya every year.

It's the biggest and most comprehensive entrepreneurship scheme on the African continent.

The 2022 session is set to open soon.

https://www.tonyelumelufoundation.org/

Tony elumelu owns the United Bank for Africa and Heirs holdings, both headquartered in Nigeria.

Big brother with a big GDP.

I remember talking about this 2018,2019. Kenyans and the ret of Africa swim to Nigeria (Lagos and Abuja) to beg start up funding from this guy annually. Now that shows our influence and dominance.

Shma:


Tsap?.

He is weeping on how ret@rded you sound.mumu.