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Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by VEHINTOLAR: 12:34pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
HornyTave: Mumu ! 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 1:18pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
VEHINTOLAR: Your "orun oba ado" is yet another yoruba scam and it was built with modern cement technology and is littered with British letters. I repeat: no Oba of Benin empire was ever buried in Ife village. And again: oromiyan is a region in Ethiopia, not a person who existed. Oduduwa, obatala, oromiyan, ogiso never existed, they are just fairytales like that of Spiderman and superman and father Christmas. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 1:29pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
osax4pal:so basically all they need to do is show you a place and call it cemetery of the Oba of Benin and you would be completely duped ? Wise up, get some education. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by EnEnPeecee: 2:24pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
VEHINTOLAR:don't mind these illiterates who don't read 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by EnEnPeecee: 2:32pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Truthvalue44:https://guardian.ng/features/culture/up-till-1914-benin-obas-were-buried-in-ile-ife-oore-of-mobaland/ read till the end bro 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 2:32pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
EnEnPeecee:I guess this makes you the illiterate who read. You people's scams are older than the earth. Nobody is buying your lies and your 419-history. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by EnEnPeecee: 2:35pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
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Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 2:36pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
EnEnPeecee: The ore of mobaland is a liar and he is telling a story with no eyewitness written record as if he witnessed it which would make him more than 100 years old. Also right in 1914, the Oba of Benin was buried in Calabar. There are records of eyewitness accounts of the burial of the Oba of Benin and they all claim it took place in Benin city around or in his palace, the blood of slaves were made to fill the ditches around the palace. You guys need to try and steal an other people's history with your storytelling. Benin history is solid and can't be modified by jealous outsiders. I love how you guys just keep quoting each other and believe you are making a point. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by EnEnPeecee: 2:46pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Truthvalue44:So you now know Nigerian more than him abi? And you equally know history more than the Oba of BENIN who agreed that his great grandfather are from Ile Ife. With the way you are sounding, i am convinced that your type are same people fighting the Ogisos who are the original aborigines. You must be an Oba of BENIN family because the Benin Oba and the Ogiso family are like cat and rat. |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 2:51pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
EnEnPeecee: Look, stay in your lane, you know nothing about Benin and neither does your stupid and deluded ore of mobaland. Being a monarch doesn't mean you are a historian or that you know what took place thousands of years before your birth. Also the Oba of Benin actually claimed the Oni of Ife migrated from Benin, but your biased yoruba interpretation makes you see everything upside down. Also there is no ogiso family, there was never any ogiso, it was all made up like father Christmas. I have said all this already, so illiterate who reads, try and read ! 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by christistruth01: 3:11pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Truthvalue44: From the 1937 Conference The first Yoruba Chiefs Conference was held in the Alaafins Palace Hall in 1937 And all the Oba's were happy with it including the Oba of Benin The Conference was later expanded to include all other Ethnic Groups but it was Originally for the Yoruba Chiefs and they all agreed that Oni was definitely their leader Let us not divert from the Original request for Evidence that Oni of Ife was their Traditional Leader of Yoruba Chiefs From the Yorubas Obas conference 1937 proceedings Hosted by Sir Bernard Boudillon Governor General of Nigeria on 31st March and 1st April 1937 Quoting last paragraph of first page: “The Chiefs were seated in a horse-shoe formation, with the Oni of Ife ,as the head of the town from which all Yorubas have traditionally sprung , at the centre ,and the Alaafin of Oyo at the western and the oba of Benin at the eastern end, an arrangement which gave general satisfaction.” The fact that Scammers are trying to rewrite History doesn't mean everybody is like that 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by christistruth01: 3:15pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
HornyTave: Yet you always call Awolowo who is Ijebu a Yoruba man Oduduwa United the different Aborigines groups into one Yoruba Nation The Awujale of Ijebu was an Ilari sent from Oyo by an Alaafin to Settle a Land dispute Yorubas are both Aborigines and Settlers and both groups have Long become the same people Ijebu, Owu, Ijesha Ekiti,Ilaje,Akoko were all Ugbo aborigines now all are the same Yorubas Just as the English were originally from Viking,Angles,Saxons,French,Roman Origin but now all are English Bottomline is Ooni of Ife is the Father of the Present Yoruba Kings include the Oba of Benin and Alaafin Cc Tao11 ,macof,Olu317 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 4:25pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Basically, you just repeat your claim which has been proven to be a lie. Delusion. There was never any "conference of yoruba chiefs", it was "conference of chiefs of the western provinces of Nigeria". |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 4:26pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Anyways, just keep repeating your lies and exposing yourselves for what you are. |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 4:47pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
The oni of Ife is father to nobody, he is a priest serving under the alafin in a village called Ife. It is the British and awolowo who saw the opportunity to use him as their servant and then elevated him politically, at some point he was even the prime minister of the western region. The oni of ife's father is still alive and never was a king, this is to tell you what you have in Ife is not a monarchy. The Oba of Benin is not and never has been a yoruba ! Actually yoruba is an other name for oyo kingdom. The Oba of Benin is the emperor of Benin empire ! You people's desperation at claiming the emperor of Benin empire is more than obvious, but again most of the people who currently call themselves yoruba are actually descendants of Brazilian slaves whom are trying to steal Benin history while they migrated from Brazil to our shores. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 4:48pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Until 1912, Ife was a small village. It is the British who started building it in 1912. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 4:52pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Clearly the yoruba are fanatical just like bomo haram and like book haram they believe in fairytales and despise science and logics, the only difference is that yoruba just can't stop telling lies and have no courage in the battlefield. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by christistruth01: 5:56pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Truthvalue44:
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Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Asiri1991: 5:58pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
I am back from work and it is disheartening that after all the facts, evidence and straightforward history presented by my brother - Truthvalue44 - the Yorubas are still trytrying to prove that they sired us. It is just a pity. I might just have to be careful when associating with you guys in real life. This topic is a clear indication of what you have done to the entire Nigerian political and social history through biases and unverified evidence to suit your ego. Spits! I am off. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by VEHINTOLAR: 7:18pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Truthvalue44:https://tribuneonlineng.com/when-oba-of-benin-visited-ooni-of-ife/ https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/pomp-pageantry-as-bini-kingdom-crowns-oba-ewuare-ii/ “Historians all agreed that Oduduwa sent his son Oranmiyan as requested by elders of Benin to return with them as ruler of their realm. Oranmiyan stayed in Benin, but his stay was short. But by the time he left he had a son known today as Eweka I. Oranmiyan’s time in Benin was however short-lived, he was an Oba. So he was the first Oba after the Ogiso dynasty, he established Obaship in Benin. Therefore the listing of past Obas should start from Oranmiyan. This actually made my late father the 39th Oba of Benin while I am the 40th Oba of Benin.” https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/pomp-pageantry-as-bini-kingdom-crowns-oba-ewuare-ii/ Lol @ "oromiyan" of Ethiopia ! Boy,how could you say the first Oba (Alaafin) of Oyo,the great Oranmiyan,was one fictitious character - oromiyan or whatever from Ethiopia ? Yoruba,we be your baba;whether you like it or not ! Credit : @HornyTave |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 7:27pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Asiri1991: Mr you are not Bini. Stop the ssstuuupppiddd tactics and allow history flow. If you have issues with Yorubas create a thread to slug it out than this mischievous attitude. Too many bad characters. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 7:51pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
VEHINTOLAR: My friend, nobody who claims oromiyan and oduduwa existed can be considered a historian, it is just like claiming Peter Pan and Spiderman existed. By the way stop quoting Nigerian news papers, start quoting historical documents. Is it so hard to understand that : to claim a person existed several hundred years ago, you need an eyewitness written record for that ! History is not about saying "oh that magical historian said so". History is not the quoting of "historians", it is the study of historical documents! Once again: there was never any ogiso, nor oromiyan, nor oduduwa, nor obatala ! All theses are stories for children ! How old are you ? You are just incredibly ill educated and quoting journalists who know next to nothing about what they are writing about ! How deluded are you ? Did you think I would be impressed by underachieving Nigerian journalists ? Who do you think I am ? I'm not an uneducated weed smoker like you. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 7:54pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
MelesZenawi: So yoruba revisionism is now considered history which should be allowed to flow ? Look, I don't think you are even a Nigerian, you know next to nothing about Nigeria and just keep claiming different ethnicities depending on the conversation. I think you are probably a southafrican teenager whom is just trolling in nairaland and trying to create havoc. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 8:17pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
What type of fool quotes today's newspapers for historical research ? Can someone explain to fools that "news" and "history" are in complete opposition with each other ? And to quote ill educated Nigerian journalists who know nothing about history...wtf ? Teenagers should stop joining debates about history. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by EnEnPeecee: 8:21pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Asiri1991:
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Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 8:23pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Ok, these yoruba guys are just teenaged trolls, everybody should just ignore them since they ignore logics, facts and history. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 8:29pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Truthvalue44: Face the issue moreover the Yoruba argument has more supported facts, superior argument. You are just kicking with no solid kicking. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 8:35pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
MelesZenawi:Keep quiet troll. I don't value the "opinion" of trolls. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 8:39pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Truthvalue44: Good you accepted defeat. |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 8:42pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
I am not fighting a war here, I am only correcting fake history and providing education to people in here. |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Asiri1991: 8:59pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
MelesZenawi: What else? It's in you. You name yourself, which is good; and turn around to name another person. Or you accuse whomever fails to succumb to your dumb analogy of ethnic theft. Be yourself and stop roping everyone else into your tribe, if you have one. Never equate us to the Brazilian slaves of the present day south western Nigeria called Yorubas. We are Bini. Get it into your head bro. Learn not to confuse history with myth as the latter is fictitious and the former is fact based with myriad of evidence to prove itself. It would have not been a mirage for me to accept we are descendants of the Yorubas had there been empirical evidence to justify it. We are all humans. However, I will always go with the position of John Lock when he wrote, "when you want to dispossess a people, tell them their story beginning it with 'secondly'". And that is exactly what your exuberance on this thread, or more patently, what the exuberance of anyone who tried, tries or will try to make us the descendants of your fictional Oduduwa portends because none of you actually understand the borderline between history and myth. We are humans, just like you. Tell your story, history and myths to your noble sons and daughters while we tell, share and embrace our history with love and cheerfulness to our noble sons and daughters too, however dissatisfactory it might sound or look to you. While it pleases you to call me your descendant, which no evil intentions hidden in it, it hurts me so much because if I accept such designation, I am an unworthy son of my people's founder and the unequalled feat they attained that attracted your and every other person's admiration. Since admiration is natural to good and outstanding people and things, it is permitted that you only admire. Do not claim what does not belong to you. As a young man, thread with caution because you do not even know if your forebearers are angry with you now in your recklessness of trying to claim what does not belong to them. Please, be yourself and let me be. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Asiri1991: 9:07pm On Jan 06, 2022 |
Truthvalue44: And you may be surprised that the same publishers pay senseless demagogues like the ones on this thread as their history correspondents. A boy of 24 who just swallowed everything they fed him in Ile-Ife or Ibadan, with little or no knowledge of the history and people of west Africa would sit down on a fluffy chair on Lagos Ibadan media house and pen a baseless article and someone would use it as a historical arbiter. It's a pity. 1 Like |
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