BlueMann:


Apostle himself

Bless you sir. Thanks

nihilistjnr:


Check your date. Check mine

Which is more recent

airmark:


Arjen Robben couldn't believe how Mascherano ran from behind to block his goal-bound shot in that World cup final in 2014.

Robben, Mascherano, world cup final 2014

How people would confidently tell lies on this page

World cup final 2014 was where Boateng gave one of the greatest final display for Germany. You were probably sleeping through it.

BlueMann:
Senior men, celebrate with me. It's my birthday today.

Thankful for being alive.

Happy birthday my guy, long life and prosperity thingz.

patrickmuf:
You guys said Hojbjerg 8s a tout hence the reason Ibime brought out his passing stat to highlight he is not all about brawn but brains too yet you guys are totally missing his motive or rather deliberately misrepresenting his intent in a bid to praise Jorg for his passing.

Also, whilst Rodri has been fantastic for City in recycling possession and contributing to their attacking play, you can't just wish away the fact that he struggles when he has to cover grounds as he just doesn't have the pace. It is not a trait you'd notice because City are hardly ever on the back foot. Put Rodri in a team like Spurs or Liverpool and you'd see that he is indeed an escort.

In all, credit to Tuchel and Pep for finding a system that mask the flaws of these guys whilst promising their strength.

Fabinho playing DM for Liverpool does not have pace too

lordfalcao:
he is a mildfield controller. His volume of passes in matches are there

Controller koh, comptroller general ni..... controller that sees to our midfield always overrun everytime and then against any half decent midfield. Controller isonu

Well una eyes go soon open.

raumdeuter:


Robben, Mascherano, world cup final 2014

How people would confidently tell lies on this page

World cup final 2014 was where Boateng gave one of the greatest final display for Germany. You were probably sleeping through it.

Segedinho:

In all..

Tuchel is a stupid coach cos he keep on using same jog despite contributing nothing.

The man hands are tied, no natural dm in this team, all we have apart from J5 are makeshift dm. Can't blame the man

Kilishihunter:

Chairman only reason jorginho is both European footballer of the year and 3rd ballon d or overall is cause of being in two winning teams of the biggest trophies in 2021, Jorginho is not bad but he isn't great either, he doesn't have any particular attribute that marks him out as a professional in that aspect, If you guys sign someone like tchouameni, kamara or Denis Zakaria, that's the beginning of the end for him, pka sso ain't wrong

Have you ever seen a Balon D'or or European Best player come from a losing team? Why is Jorginho's different?

Meanwhile Emerson is in two winnings teams of the biggest trophies is 2021.

donjazet:


This is a myth you've let yourself believe, unfortunately.
Jorginho played against mancity, Tottenham, realmadrid, Liverpool, ATM, Porto etc and came out of tops in almost all of them with Chelsea out possessing all of them bar mancity.

Does any opposition get stronger than these?
You've really bought into that whack fallacy that jorginho is not press-resistant. HE IS.
He does break between the lines by finding pockets of space to evade pressure and pass the ball.

Furthermore, if all your coaches are "bending down backwards" to cover for you, what does it say about the value of that player?? Doesn't that highlight his absolute importance to the team?
Don't let minority opinions fool you. A whole lot of us appreciate the intelligence and genius of jorginho. That's why he's the European footballer of the year and 3rd place overall best in the world.

Bro, you are the one peddling half-truths and myths. Real Madrid had more possession than Chelsea in both legs, almost 70% in the second leg at the Bridge. Atletico, Spurs and Porto don't count as they play a low-block defensive system. Can you bring out at least one game, never mind two games against top-level midfield opposition where Jorginho controlled and ran the game in the last 12 months? I will wait.

Jorginho press-resistant? Don't make me laugh. Person wey dey always panic give backpass under little pressure. The only time he receives the ball facing his goal and plays forward is when there is no one pressing him. Abeg.

I don't think you understand what i mean by breaking lines. It means threading balls in between the opposition defensive lines. Not neccesarily to directly create goal scoring chances but progressing the ball into attacking areas. Jorginho lacks all of this. All he does is make 5m backward and sideway passes, which is not bad, don't get me wrong. I get the concept of recycling the ball but that ability to work the ball into dangerous areas is what seperates the best from the rest.

The reasons the coaches keep bending backwards is a combination of 2 factors. Firstly, there is no better option or solution in sight, the moment they get one, Jorginho's place might come under threat. This is more likely at Chelsea than Italy. Secondly, favoritism, these coaches are humans and they are also prone to sentiments and bias. They see a bit of themselves in Jorginho, as he is also a student of the game so they take to him not because he is one fantastic player.

pkasso:
Bro, you are the one peddling half-truths and myths. Real Madrid had more possession than Chelsea in both legs, almost 70% in the second leg at the Bridge. Atletico, Spurs and Porto don't count as they play a low-block defensive system. Can you bring out at least one game, never mind two games against top-level midfield opposition where Jorginho controlled and ran the game in the last 12 months? I will wait.

Jorginho press-resistant? Don't make me laugh. Person wey dey always panic give backpass under little pressure. The only time he receives the ball facing his goal and plays forward is when there is no one pressing him. Abeg.

I don't think you understand what i mean by breaking lines. It means threading balls in between the opposition defensive lines. Not neccesarily to directly create goal scoring chances but progressing the ball into attacking areas. Jorginho lacks all of this. All he does is make 5m backward and sideway passes, which is not bad, don't get me wrong. I get the concept of recycling the ball but that ability to work the ball into dangerous areas is what seperates the best from the rest.

The reasons the coaches keep bending backwards is a combination of 2 factors. Firstly, there is no better option or solution in sight, the moment they get one, Jorginho's place might come under threat. This is more likely at Chelsea than Italy. Secondly, favoritism, these coaches are humans and they are also prone to sentiments and bias. They see a bit of themselves in Jorginho, as he is also a student of the game so they take to him not because he is one fantastic player.

Lmao

swiz123:


First of all, do you watch matches at home or you at viewing centers with a bottle of beer?

No, i watch them in the village market square, morön

It seems you fell from your mother's back as a toddler.

BlueMann:
Senior men, celebrate with me. It's my birthday today.

Thankful for being alive.

Happy birthday big man

If a player doesn't contribute anything to the team, what is the best and simplest thing the coach will do? Bench him. He contributed nothing NOTHING.

But why will a coach tweak and alter his formation and tactics to suit that player who contributes nothing to the team? I mean, isnt it way more easier to drop a player to the bench than look for a way to play that player even when it requires to tweak your normal formation before you feature that guy?

Sarri tweak his team to accommodate "useless" Jorginho. Tuchel tweak his formation to accommodate "useless" Jorginho. Mancini tweak his tactics to accommodate "useless" Jorginho..... What am I missing here? Wouldn't it be easier for these coaches to simply drop him from the team?

Well, maybe Jorginho belongs to this Italia Mafia that somehow kidnap the family members of these coaches threatening violence if they bench Jorginho.

I don't understand.

nihilistjnr:


See first sentence of bolded for context.

Still doesn't prove anything. You say Rodri's lack of pace means he won't play well in Liverpool and Spurs. On what evidence? You forget that playing for Spurs and Liverpool means him not playing as high up the pitch and playing with more defensively solid midfield partners. He would be less exposed to counter attacks and his lack of pace wouldn't be much of a problem.

timbros:


Have you ever seen a Balon D'or or European Best player come from a losing team? Why is Jorginho's different?

Meanwhile Emerson is two winnings teams of the biggest trophies is 2021.

Emerson wasn't in the lineup consistently like jorginho na, Emerson's Italian break started after spinazzola tore his hamstring in the quarters, And he was chilwell's deputy at Chelsea, Kante was widely touted to bag the award before Switzerland happened, Jorginho is a good high volume passer and can position well no doubt, but he really doesn't have the attributes that mark him out as a world class DM or deep lying playmaker, Xabi Alonso could ping long balls and shoot from range, busquets who is also slow and weak like him is creative, is a better press resistant DM and can use his height and long legs to win the ball when in range, casemiro can break play and pass well, Chairman apart from him recycling short passes and doing the basics, Right now he's just an Italian penaldo

schurley:


Controller koh, comptroller general ni..... controller that sees to our midfield always overrun everytime and then against any half decent midfield. Controller isonu

Well una eyes go soon open.

the metrics for mildfield controlling is volume of pass according to analysis here..

Jorginho has the most passes in mildfield 7 or 8 out of any 10 matches we play..

Maybe you are looking for 4 different Jorginho in the mildfield to know he is controlling mildfield

timbros:
If a player doesn't contribute anything to the team, what is the best and simplest thing the coach will do? Bench him. He contributed nothing NOTHING.

But why will a coach tweak and alter his formation and tactics to suit that player who contributes nothing to the team? I mean, isnt it way more easier to drop a player to the bench than look for a way to play that player even when it requires to tweak your normal formation before you feature that guy?

Sarri tweak his team to accommodate "useless" Jorginho. Tuchel tweak his formation to accommodate "useless" Jorginho. Mancini tweak his tactics to accommodate "useless" Jorginho..... What am I missing here? Wouldn't it be easier for these coaches to simply drop him from the team?

Well, maybe Jorginho belongs to this Italia Mafia that somehow kidnap the family members of these coaches threatening violence if they bench Jorginho.

I don't understand.

This below explains it

Jorginho belongs to this Italia Mafia that somehow kidnap the family members of these coaches threatening violence if they bench Jorginho

Kilishihunter:

Emerson wasn't in the lineup consistently like jorginho na, Emerson's Italian break started after spinazzola tore his hamstring in the quarters, And he was chilwell's deputy at Chelsea, Kante was widely touted to bag the award before Switzerland happened, Jorginho is a good high volume passer and can position well no doubt, but he really doesn't have the attributes that mark him out as a world class DM or deep lying playmaker, Xabi Alonso could ping long balls and shoot from range, busquets who is also slow and weak like him is creative, is a better press resistant DM and can use his height and long legs to win the ball when in range, casemiro can break play and pass well, Chairman apart from him recycling short passes and doing the basics, Right now he's just an Italian penaldo

Any reason why coaches always seem to play him?

Abi which other useless player you know wey all coaches club and NT must always play.

Top clubs and NT that win biggest trophies. Not mediocre ones

Capaldi:

Why has Jorginho Italian career not ended ? Why did Sarri, Tuchel and Mancini actual elite coaches unlike the wack analyst we have here find him core to their various teams ?

Probably because all those coaches favour possession football and feel his passing recycling and tempo would help the team, Benitez didn't feature him regularly in the Napoli lineup before sarri happened, Jorginho has been playing for Italy before Mancini yet Conte snubbed him for euro 2016

Kilishihunter:

Emerson wasn't in the lineup consistently like jorginho na, Emerson's Italian break started after spinazzola tore his hamstring in the quarters, And he was chilwell's deputy at Chelsea, Kante was widely touted to bag the award before Switzerland happened, Jorginho is a good high volume passer and can position well no doubt, but he really doesn't have the attributes that mark him out as a world class DM or deep lying playmaker, Xabi Alonso could ping long balls and shoot from range, busquets who is also slow and weak like him is creative, is a better press resistant DM and can use his height and long legs to win the ball when in range, casemiro can break play and pass well, Chairman apart from him recycling short passes and doing the basics, Right now he's just an Italian penaldo

At the bolded....Exactly! I didn't bother to read the rest of your explanations.

Jorginho is important to both teams that is why he featured more than 10x Emerson.

Emerson offers nothing so both coaches (Tuchel and Mancini) simply bench him. Why don't they simply give Jorginho the Emerson treatment if he, just like Emerson, offers nothing?

Do you know any other player who is a consistent starter for a top country like Italy Brazil Germany France Spain and at the same time a consistent starter at a top club like Bayern Barcelona Madrid City Chelsea PSG Juventus

For different coaches

raumdeuter:


This below explains it

Jorginho belongs to this Italia Mafia that somehow kidnap the family members of these coaches threatening violence if they bench Jorginho

I can't think of another reason why a coach will rack his brain how to change team formation to accommodate a player that offers nothing to the team...

I just weak.

raumdeuter:


Any reason why coaches always seem to play him?

Abi which other useless player you know wey all coaches club and NT must always play.

Top clubs and NT that win biggest trophies. Not mediocre ones

Capaldi:

Why has Jorginho Italian career not ended ? Why did Sarri, Tuchel and Mancini actual elite coaches unlike the wack analyst we have here find him core to their various teams ?

Probably because all those coaches favour possession football and feel his passing recycling and tempo would help the team, Benitez didn't feature him regularly in the Napoli lineup before sarri happened, Jorginho has been playing for Italy before Mancini yet Conte snubbed him for euro 2016

Tuchel is stupid for benching elite defenders just to accommodate jorginho who is a useless player. For refusing to sign other Dms like horjbeg and the rest just because of useless jorginho.
Mancini is daft for using a spinless jorginho instead of other gwadangwa,rugged DMs that Italy has in excess
Sarri is a fool for adoring this guy.
Uefa is mad for giving this useless player an award ahead of other elite midfielders.
Funny that these world class coaches I mentioned value jorginho and a nairaland analyst who can't even coach his village team during christmas league calls him useless .
Jorginho ain't world class ,yea. But useless? Fvvvck y'all haterz

Kilishihunter:

Probably because all those coaches favour possession football and feel his passing recycling and tempo would help the team, Benitez didn't feature him regularly in the Napoli lineup before sarri happened, Jorginho has been playing for Italy before Mancini yet Conte snubbed him for euro 2016

How did Benitez Napoli fare compared to Sarri Napoli that favored Jorginho

How did Cuntays Italy fare compared to Mancini Italy that preferred and made Jorginho his cornerstone

Most winning teams play possession football. Maybe if you desire to win and not just be an also ran who will cause upset in 2 games and fizzle out you need a possession based philosophy

So Jorginhos passing recycling possession helps the team and make them win. I wonder which top coach won't want that? When playing a rugby DM and losing would be more preferable

Kilishihunter:


Probably because all those coaches favour possession football and feel his passing recycling and tempo would help the team, Benitez didn't feature him regularly in the Napoli lineup before sarri happened, Jorginho has been playing for Italy before Mancini yet Conte snubbed him for euro 2016

So do you mean that jorginho is good in maintaining possession. Recycling passes and controlling the tempo of the game?..
Simple yes or no

timbros:


At the bolded....Exactly! I didn't bother to read the rest of your explanations.

Jorginho is important to both teams that is why he featured more than 10x Emerson.

Emerson offers nothing so both coaches (Tuchel and Mancini) simply bench him. Why don't they simply give Jorginho the Emerson treatment if he, just like Emerson, offers nothing?

Emerson has better options ahead of him not that he offers nothing, I'm not saying jorginho is useless or not good but he's not at the level most people think he's at

Ebukacute:
Tuchel is stupid for benching elite defenders just to accommodate jorginho who is a useless player. For refusing to sign other Dms like horjbeg and the rest just because of useless jorginho.
Mancini is daft for using a spinless jorginho instead of other gwadangwa,rugged DMs that Italy has in excess
Sarri is a fool for adoring this guy.
Uefa is mad for giving this useless player an award ahead of other elite midfielders.
Funny that these world class coaches I mentioned value jorginho and a nairaland analyst who can't even coach his village team during christmas league calls him useless .
Jorginho ain't world class ,yea. But useless? Fvvvck y'all haterz

Be calming down sir

timbros:


I can't think of another reason why a coach will rack his brain how to change team formation to accommodate a player that offers nothing to the team...

I just weak.

Any other useless player like that you can remember that top clubs, top country must change their formation to accommodate?

Kilishihunter:

Emerson has better options ahead of him not that he offers nothing, I'm not saying jorginho is useless or not good but he's not at the level most people think he's at

What level is Jorginho at and what level do you, people, coaches think he should be

pkasso:
Still doesn't prove anything. You say Rodri's lack of pace means he won't play well in Liverpool and Spurs. On what evidence? You forget that playing for Spurs and Liverpool means him not playing as high up the pitch and playing with more defensively solid midfield partners. He would be less exposed to counter attacks and his lack of pace wouldn't be much of a problem.

Bros the guy said,people don't see Rodris deficiencies because City is typically not on the back foot

I responded with - We saw it, and gave an example if when we saw it.

Context.