raumdeuter:


Without Harvetz, Mount Pulisic Rudiger would they be able to win?

Why didnt Kante take this performance to France to win them the Euro

you havent answered my question

Ibime:


And yet Chelsea never saw it good to bolster the DM position till Mourinho came to throw his weight around in January 2014. Chelsea managers were forced to be playing Luiz and even Zouma in midfield when water pass garri while Mikel still was on bench. What more convincing do you need to move him on and bolster the position

Didnt Chelsea buy Mereiles around that time as well?

BlueMann:
Senior men, celebrate with me. It's my birthday today.

Thankful for being alive.

Happy birthday boss

timbros:


Just look at excuses upon excuses.

Kepa was a problem, Mendy came in.
Tammy was a problem, Werner came in.
Werner was a problem, Lukaku came in.
Jorginho was a problem, who came in?

So you want to tell me that while Chelsea was signing Mendy, Werner etc, they can sign a Jorginho replacement at the same time?

So we should wait till next season before Jorginho replacement will come.

Make una continue dey make excuses why Jorginho dey start Chelsea games.

Oh.... Saul is Jorginho's replacement

BTW, provide your reliable source for the bolded.

Bros, that's why I said you talk like you're not a Chelsea fan.

Sarri was Jorginho's father so of course he played him.

It's like you don't remember that Lampard dropped Jorginho last season, after first stripping him of penalty duties. At the time Lampard was sacked, Jorginho was not even making it off the bench...I think he only maybe played like 4 of lampards last 13 EPL games despite being on the bench.

When Tuchel came in, Kante was injured, and then continued to struggle for fitness for the rest of the season. Jorginho had to be managed, and this season, the big problem was in attack, which is why Lukaku was the priority.

Even at that Saul in midfield proves that Tuchel knows the next area of weakness, and we've seen him experiment with Barkley, RLC and even Reece James there

You must be jonzing if you think it's Jorginho's skill that's kept him in the first 11. First game Kovacic and Kante were fit for, Jorginho was benched immediately (Liverpool).

Jorginho has been lucky that b

Theuniverse:
you havent answered my question

You think Kante won the CL for Chelsea good, why didnt he win Euro for France too like Jorginho did

popizaino:


Strictly at Chelsea.

Makelele already won elsewhere at his prime. Nothing cncern am with Chelsea its like asking about Shevchenko in Chelsea

timbros:


It means everything.

How can you know something 3 or 4 different coaches doesn't know about Jorginho?

I don't know your line of business but what do you think about a complete novice pointing out a 'correction' on something that you and your colleagues, who have been actively practising this business for donkey years, have been doing a particular way.

Lampard, Sarri, Tuchel, Mancini have all been actively participating in professional football for many years. They all feature Jorginho prominently in their teams even when they had other options. Somehow all of them don't know that Jorginho is useless and won't improve. But Popizaino and other NL analysts clearly is seeing how useless Jorginho is.

At the risk of trying to sound monotonous, this we are naira land means nothing, although I agree with your point on experience,I don't rule it out.

raumdeuter:


Didnt Chelsea buy Mereiles around that time as well?

Chelsea bought Meireles 2011 summer and sold him 2012 summer after winning UCL, and left only Mikel, Ramires and 35 year old Lampard to man the midfield.

Meanwhile we had Hazard, Mata, Moses and Sturridge who played wings already, we added Oscar, Schurrle, Willian and Debruyne that summer.

You can see the pattern

raumdeuter:


Kante had 0 goals and assists yet you are asking for Jorginhos goals and assists

raumdeuter you are very biased for jorginho. one more question. what is jorginho main quality that you see in him as a dm?

raumdeuter:


Jorginho is not the best DM in the world, he has his limitations but he is not as bad as people here are making it to be. There are several players and midfielders with limitations that have done well in football

All these Jorginho slander na agenda.

I am even liking it more because suddenly it shows the hypocrisy of those who for years always touted awards as the everything that matter suddenly Jorginho matter come and we started hearing stories

If I support Chelsea wholehearted and I want them to be the best so while will I be against a player who will make us the best? Why?

My history with players I have been against at Chelsea speaks for themselves.....Anelka,willian,matic, jorginho and to an extent ivanovic.

timbros:


Do you have evidence that there is no offer on the table yet? Has there been any report that Chelsea doesn't want to renew Jorginho's contract?

When does Jogginghoe contract expire and how long has he been at Chelsea? Wanted players don't wait more than two or three years for contract talks, only those who the club feel is earning more than their contribution. His agent confirmed no talks

timbros:


It means everything.

How can you know something 3 or 4 different coaches doesn't know about Jorginho?

I don't know your line of business but what do you think about a complete novice pointing out a 'correction' on something that you and your colleagues, who have been actively practising this business for donkey years, have been doing a particular way.

Lampard, Sarri, Tuchel, Mancini have all been actively participating in professional football for many years. They all feature Jorginho prominently in their teams even when they had other options. Somehow all of them don't know that Jorginho is useless and won't improve. But Popizaino and other NL analysts clearly is seeing how useless Jorginho is.

Klopp and the other managers who’ve all featured a traffic warden like Van Dijk don’t also know ball

Theuniverse:
my man ibime so na raumdeuter naim give jorginho him nickname jogginghoe ehn? chei raumdeuter there is god o, pls dont be like nigeria pdp apc politicians vacilitating from one party to another without concern. jorginho is useless as you have confirmed. so pls no become cfc saboteur oooh!!!

Na him name am Jogginghoe to mock us for the wack player turning out for us

popizaino:



If I support Chelsea wholehearted and I want them to be the best so while will I be against a player who will make us the best? Why?

My history with players I have been against at Chelsea speaks for themselves.....Anelka,willian,matic, jorginho and to an extent ivanovic.

Because of your agenda
You claim you want the best for Chelsea yet you want Coutinho Hazard to return

Theuniverse:
raumdeuter you are very biased for jorginho. one more question. what is jorginho main quality that you see in him as a dm?

You said Jorginho has 0 goals 0 assists for Italy.
I told you that Kante had the same for France when they won the world cup

And the verdict is that I am biased. Can we also say you are biased since you practically said the same thing

Trevor012:

Fada lord see violence lmfao

There is no violence there, maybe I will also need nairaland evidence to support the fact I said I started supporting pep guardiola since 2009.

I don't know why we're discussing contracts when jorginho still has 18 months to go. It's not as if our board has been known to be excellent in contract negotiations. We currently have 4 key players whose contract runs in 5 months time. So we can't clearly use contract talks as an indication of anything, SEEING AS WE'RE NOT PRESENT THERE TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

All we can do is speculate and speculate, which is why on my part I'll show you "reports" showing that both parties are negotiating an extension.

But again, all these is just deflection to take away from the excellent performances of the European best player of the year.

Trevor012:

Jorginho won the euros without kante. It was kante who couldn't perform for France at the euros without Jorginho holding his hand. The question should be in reverse.

As good as Michael carrick was, why was he not making England national team ahead of acreage Joe like Aston villa Gareth Barry?

raumdeuter:


Makelele already won elsewhere at his prime. Nothing cncern am with Chelsea its like asking about Shevchenko in Chelsea

How many games was Shevchenko playing compared to makalele who was ever starting?

raumdeuter:


Because of your agenda
You claim you want the best for Chelsea yet you want Coutinho Hazard to return

Sure they are better than the crop of useless players we are parading now.

raumdeuter:


Bayern of Hummels did not win CL
Bayern without hummels won 2 CL titles

Bayern of Fraudiola did not win CL

Bayern without Fraudiola won 2 CL titles.

raumdeuter:


WInning league for Bayern is nothing, CL is the koko for Bayern
Hummels came to Bayern 3yrs he didnt smell a trophy. 12months after leaving Bayern on the CL again
Hummels won 0 CL for Bayern, Jorginho won 1 for Chelsea

Neuer Boatang = CL 2020
Neuer Hummels = Euro 2020 disgrace

The truth is finally out about Burnthisleaguedown and Fraudiola.

Fraudiola of Bayern failed woefully without Messi and over 1bn.

cc Popizaino.

popizaino:



As good as Michael carrick was, why was he not making England national team ahead of acreage Joe like Aston villa Gareth Barry?

Don't ask me any question about Carrick. Your deflection tactics won't work on me. Jorginho won the euros without kante. Why couldn't kante perform for France at the euros without Jorginho holding his hand?

Jorginho apologist is the reason why I include time and moment on my matchday comments so that they don't claim something happened that we don't see.

Trevor012:

Don't ask me any question about Carrick. Your deflection tactics won't work on me. Jorginho won the euros without kante. Why couldn't kante perform for France at the euros without Jorginho holding his hand?

No one is deflecting,I am just trying to let you see how things works the other way round.

airmark:


The truth is finally out about Burnthisleaguedown and Fraudiola.

Fraudiola of Bayern failed woefully without Messi and over 1bn.

cc Popizaino.

Dayo to his own, me to mine.

donjazet:
I don't know why we're discussing contracts when jorginho still has 18 months to go. It's not as if our board has been known to be excellent in contract negotiations. We currently have 4 key players whose contract runs in 5 months time.

There was nothing key about Rudiger.and Christensen. Chelsea were ready to lose them until Tuchel turned them from grass to grace.

Wanted players like James, Kante all got their contracts renewed timely. Kante joined Chelsea 2016 and already got new contract by 2018.

Jorginho is 4.5 years in and nobody called him to sit down.

Why will Chelsea be offering Rudiger new contract when they were trying to offload him last summer? Jogginghoe was in the same boat with the rest of unwanted players.

popizaino:



No one is deflecting,I am just trying to let you see how things works the other way round.

Am only interested in the kante and Jorginho way Sir.

Ibime:


There was nothing key about Rudiger.and Christensen. Chelsea were ready to lose them until Tuchel turned them from grass to grace.

Wanted players like James, Kante all got their contracts renewed timely. Kante joined Chelsea 2016 and already got new contract by 2018.
Jorginho is 4.5 years in and nobody called him to sit down.
Why will Chelsea be offering Rudiger new contract when they were trying to offload him last summer? Jogginghoe was in the same boat with the rest of unwanted players.

Both of us have no right to be arguing about contracts because we know nothing of what exactly is going on there.

We know that both parties can sometimes use the media to exaggerate points.
Fabrizio has said contract negotiations are ongoing. Who knows they may reach an agreement in the summer.
I once read an article that linked Barcelona to jorginho in this coming Summer.

It's all called transfer RUMOR for a reason.

What matters is that jorginho still has 18 months with us and he has been very vital to his coaches There shouldn't be a sense of urgency at this time.

Even salah didn't sign a contract extension after two years and still haven't signed one yet. Maybe Salah is not wanted by Liverpool lol.

donjazet:


Both of us have no right to be arguing about contracts because we know nothing of what exactly is going on there.

We know that both parties can sometimes use the media to exaggerate points.
Fabrizio has said contract negotiations are ongoing. Who knows they may reach an agreement in the summer.
I once read an article that linked Barcelona to jorginho in this coming Summer.

It's all called transfer RUMOR for a reason.

What matters is that jorginho still has 18 months with us and he has been very vital to his coaches There shouldn't be a sense of urgency at this time.

If a player reach 18 months without the club sitting with him, that means they are reluctant.

Contract talks typically start 3 years to go and clubs will start thinking of selling with 2 years left if no progress has been made with talks. That's for wanted players. By 18 months the player is halfway out the door unless he compromise

Chelsea have never sat down with Jorginho with 18 months to go. Fabrizio can say what he wants, he is the one speculating. Jorginho own agent says they haven't even sat down

Trevor012:
Even salah didn't sign a contract extension after two years and still haven't signed one yet. Maybe Salah is not wanted by Liverpool lol.

Salah joined Liverpool 2017 and already had a new contract by 2018. Don't compare wanted players with unwanted

Even now, they are discussing contract just that Salahs demands are too high, unlike Jogginhoe who has never even been invited to Marina office to state his demand.