raumdeuter:


Ballack has done great things like taking a hapless Germany and Leverkusen to finals they have no business being.

[s]Jorginho wins CL as a starter with Chelsea excuse
Jorginho wins Euro with Italy excuse
Jorginhos inability makes Chelsea play community defence, what about Italy that dont play community defence with Jorginho? Silence
How come all these coaches have not replaced Jorginho since?
How come these teams won the biggest titles of 2021 with Jorginho as their lychpin
How come coaches Tuchel Mancini Sarri Lampard all start Jorginho

Football no be lawn tennis but na only Donnaruma Djokovic win Euro for Italy [/s]

Hummels took Dortmund too to UCL final and even won the world cup. You can't stop shooting yourself on the foot.

Ibime:


If a player reach 18 months without the club sitting with him, that means they are reluctant.

Contract talks typically start 3 years to go and clubs will start thinking of selling with 2 years left if no progress has been made with talks. That's for wanted players. By 18 months the player is halfway out the door unless he compromise

Chelsea have never sat down with Jorginho with 18 months to go. Fabrizio can say what he wants, he is the one speculating. Jorginho own agent says they haven't even sat down

I note your article was released only 4 weeks ago.

‘We still have a year and a half on the contract,’ Jorginho’s agent, Joao Santos, told TMW.

‘There has been no talk of renewal, maybe we will do it later.’

Maybe?

Ibime:


Salah joined Liverpool 2017, same year as Jogginghoe and already had a new contract by 2018. Don't compare wanted players with unwanted

Even now, they are discussing contract just that Salahs demands are too high, unlike Jogginhoe who has never even been invited to Marina office to state his demand from 2017 to date.

Should I bring out other key players who signed contract extension very late for their various clubs?

patrickmuf:
Fabinho makes up for it with good positioning and tackling ability.

you don’t know that Jorginho has tackling ability too?

popizaino:



There is no excuse anywhere, Jorginho is useless, if Chelsea begins to bench him today, he won't see shirt in Italy again.

it is a matter of if


Why hasn’t sarri, mancini tuchel lampard drop him…

nihilistjnr:


So Italy could not find a striker in the whole world to replace Belotti too abi?

Italy replaced belotti with a more efficient striker in immobile. Who started more games for Italy

Why didn’t Italy replace Jorginho.. with a more efficient person

If course, speculations and speculations. Here we have his agent saying marina has sat down for contract talks between both.

As I said. Speculations galore.
What does all these have to do with jorginho being an essential player to all his coaches.
Swallow your LLLL's in peace.
Sarri values him. Mourinho values him, Mancini values him, Guardiola values him, Tuchel values him. He is currently the European best player.
All, top coaches forming a consensus about the player.
Why should I care what some random dude has to say about him online?

Trevor012:

Should I bring out other key players who signed contract extension very late for their various clubs?

If you tell us when they started contract discussion

There is no key player anywhere who has not started discussion with 2 years left, unless he was wack and suddenly became key like Rudiger and co

donjazet:
If course, speculations and speculations. Here we have fab saying marina has sat down with jorginho's camp, his agent also saying contract talks have opened between both.

As I said. Speculations galore.
What does all these have to do with jorginho being an essential player to all his coaches.
Swallow your LLLL's in peace.
Sarri values him. Mourinho values him, Mancini values him, Guardiola values him, Tuchel values him. He is currently the European best player.
All, top coaches forming a consensus about the player.
Why should I care what some random dude has to say about him online?

Give us the date which you so carefully cropped out so we can compare with his agent statement last month

Ibime:


If you tell us when they started contract discussion

There is no key player anywhere who has not started discussion with 2 years left, unless he was wack and suddenly became key like Rudiger and co

Beginning of last season, was ceazer azpi not key for Chelsea?

Robertson dusting Jorginho


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s6VlB1jpjE

Ibime:


Which possession did Jogginghoe dominate? Someone that drop 30 passes in 120 mins, park bus and wait for keeper to save penalties.

Newbies to this thread will not know you get a kick out of supporting wack players Chelsea fans hate. You be saboteur. Na you even give Jorginho him nickname of Jogginghoe

this is how you feed here with lies. Easy with your lies of 30 passes in the euro final..

Jorginho was the second highest mildfield with passing volume in the final..

More compilation of our DM getting dusted. When the going gets tough (read: Jorginho getting pressed), he's an embarrassment. But when others do the midfield job for him, the media cums all over his passes. NOT MY MIDFIELDER!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5XGRwPe-Y0

lordfalcao:
it is a matter of if


Why hasn’t sarri, mancini tuchel lampard drop him…

Lampard dropped Jorginho sir.
Jorginho is just lucky that Kante and Kovacic have been fighting for fitness in the Tuchel Era

Amoto94:

We didn't set the rules we only met them in place.

I'm truly not happy with you for calling me out. Sometimes you really do seem like a cool brilliant dude, other times you employ coy underhanded tactics that is befuddling. If you wanted to act as a mediator, why not sound out both parties? Why select one over the order? It's really terrible of you.

lordfalcao:
Italy replaced belotti with a more efficient striker in immobile. Who started more games for Italy

Why didn’t Italy replace Jorginho.. with a more efficient person

Why did Italy not take another striker for the squad? Must it be Belotti?

Ibime:


It is well known that Tuchel wanted Tchouameni and Lampard wanted Rice but the board priotised other signings. Let me give you a clue, those managers were not coveting those players to come and sit on bench for Jogginghoe.

If Chelsea could keep Mikel and Ramires as ourmidfield options for 4 years, you should know that signing DM does not excite Chelsea board. The head of recruitment even wrote an article about it which nateevs shared many moons ago on how their strategy is to sign young exciting forwards as they make more money from the sell on. This is a team that kept 10 wingers, chased away Salah, DeBruyne, kept buying Marin, Moses, Cuadrado, Pato, Kenedy, couldn't utilise Piazon to add to Hazard, Mata, Oscar, Willian, Schurrle they bought. . . . and they left Mikel, Ramires and a 35 year old Lampard to man the midfield. Jogginghoe sticking around this long is not due to those managers ideal wish.

hahaha theories upon theories

lordfalcao:
this is how you feed here with lies. Easy with your lies of 30 passes in the euro final..

Jorginho was the second highest mildfield with passing volume in the final..

You really can't be arguing passing with anybody when it comes to jorginho.
We all know he's a master of passing.

lordfalcao:
hahaha theories upon theories

Ibime's sources.

donjazet:


Beginning of last season, was ceazer azpi not key for Chelsea?

How old is Azpi?

Azpi joined 2012, got new contract 2014, and another one in 2016 and another one in 2018

Every two two years like Noah's ark, unlike some unwanted people

lordfalcao:
this is how you feed here with lies. Easy with your lies of 30 passes in the euro final..

Jorginho was the second highest mildfield with passing volume in the final..

Go bring the semifinal for me. I'm responsible for what I type, not what you interpret. Can you show me final in my post?

Ibime:


Give us the date which you so carefully cropped up so we can compare with his agent statement last month

Why does the date matter??
Is this not the same agent speaking??
Why should we choose to believe what he said based on date??
So I choose to believe that he's saying the truth here and he's lieing in yours. All negotiation tactics.

nihilistjnr:


It's like you don't remember that Lampard dropped Jorginho last season, after first stripping him of penalty duties. At the time Lampard was sacked, Jorginho was not even making it off the bench...I think he only maybe played like 4 of lampards last 13 EPL games despite being on the bench.

the 5 matches that Jorginho was on the bench for. We won only 2.


What is the improvement on mildfield in those matches

Ibime:


How old is Azpi?

Azpi joined 2012, got new contract 2014, and another one in 2016 and another one in 2018

Every two two years like Noah's ark, unlike some unwanted people

What does age have to do with this? They are not much older than each other.

The jet question is, was azpi a key player for Chelsea beginning of last season?

You are just clutching at straws man.

nihilistjnr:


Lampard dropped Jorginho sir.
Jorginho is just lucky that Kante and Kovacic have been fighting for fitness in the Tuchel Era

he is also lucky that the whole Italian mildfielders is fighting for fitness

lordfalcao:
the 5 matches that Jorginho was on the bench for. We won only 2.


What is the improvement on mildfield in those matches

Oga this is what you asked

lordfalcao:
it is a matter of if


Why hasn’t sarri, mancini tuchel lampard drop him…

I'm showing you that Lampard dropped him. By the time Lampard was sacked, Jorginho like Rudiger had been exiled.

Tuchel, who's hand was forced by injury had to give him a lifeline.

This was Tuchel again only a few weeks ago

When asked if he see's James as a stand-in midfielder in the future, Tuchel said: "Of course, but I expect normally N'Golo (Kante), Mateo (Kovacic), Jorgi and Ruben (Loftus-Cheek) to start in midfield and they are all out today so we need to be a bit creative and put Reecey in there.

"We knew about the quality in central midfield and wanted to have some physicality. That's why he helped us there today but the target is to put him back on the wing. For this, we need players back who can play in central midfield."

Note the sequential order in which he mentioned the names.

That is the answer to your question about why Jorginho hasn't been dropped,

Ibime:


Go bring the semifinal for me. I'm responsible for what I type, not what you interpret. Can you show me final in my post?

show me the team that took possession against Spain in the whole 2020 euros

nihilistjnr:


Oga this is what you asked



I'm showing you that Lampard dropped him. By the time Lampard was sacked, Jorginho like Rudiger had been exiled.

Tuchel, who's hand was forced by injury had to give him a lifeline.

This was Tuchel again only a few weeks ago

When asked if he see's James as a stand-in midfielder in the future, Tuchel said: "Of course, but I expect normally N'Golo (Kante), Mateo (Kovacic), Jorgi and Ruben (Loftus-Cheek) to start in midfield and they are all out today so we need to be a bit creative and put Reecey in there.

"We knew about the quality in central midfield and wanted to have some physicality. That's why he helped us there today but the target is to put him back on the wing. For this, we need players back who can play in central midfield."

Note the sequential order in which he mentioned the names.

That is the answer to your question about why Jorginho hasn't been dropped,

lampard is a clueless rookie who doesn’t know anything..

What was the improvement in the 5 matches Jorginho was dropped. 2/5

This your bolded is funny

lordfalcao:
he is also lucky that the whole Italian mildfielders is fighting for fitness

Name a higher profile italian midfielder than Jorginho. I'll wait

That's why I asked you how Belotti made the squad, you couldnt answer. If you remove Immobile, how many other number 9s do they have in the country

lordfalcao:
show me the team that took possession against Spain in the whole 2020 euros

Brozovic vs Spain 61 passes, Jogginghoe 30 passes

Cover your face and stop making excuses

lordfalcao:
lampard is a clueless rookie who doesn’t know anything..

What was the improvement in the 5 matches Jorginho was dropped. 2/5

This your bolded is funny

So you didnt know Lampard was a rookie when you were asking the below?

lordfalcao:
it is a matter of if


Why hasn’t sarri, mancini tuchel lampard drop him…

It's only after I showed you that Lampard did infact drop the escort, that you remebered that Lampard is a rookie, huh?

donjazet:


What does age have to do with this? They are not much older than each other.

The jet question is, was azpi a key player for Chelsea beginning of last season?

You are just clutching at straws man.

What is clutching at straws. Azpi will be 33 at the end of his contract which is the age fullbacks are put to pasture