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Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 9:58am On Jan 10, 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0

In the video it says the Romans took the original Old Testament Scrolls away from the the Temple in Jerusalem and kept it in the private chambers of their palace in Rome where no one was allowed to see it.
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:55am On Jan 10, 2022
MindHacker9000:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0
In the video it says the Romans took the original Old Testament Scrolls away from the the Temple in Jerusalem and kept it in the private chambers of their palace in Rome.

However, when you see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. Then let those in Ju·deʹa begin fleeing to the mountains, let those in the midst of her leave, and let those in the countryside not enter into her, because these are days for meting out justice in order that all the things written may be fulfilled. Woe to the pregnant women and those nursing a baby in those days! For there will be great distress on the land and wrath against this people. And they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled" Luke 21:20-24

Your story is true but with the above prophecy in mind the first century Jewish disciples of Christ left Jerusalem with the copies of all the scriptures so God's word was safely preserved in the hands of Jesus' most trusted confidants!

Please don't be crossed with me, i know you're saying exactly what happened to Jerusalem in the first century but the Christians have escaped before troubles started. That's why the Apostates who connived with the Roman empire were seriously searching for the Apostles to kill them and destroy all the copies with them. But the Christians have taken the word of God far away from the reach of Rome that's why it was preserved till today.
Go and read the Catholic Bible compare to the KJV and other versions you will notice variations because the plan to adulterate God's word failed as the Christians have taken the information to far away lands.
So Bible students kept making updates whenever any scroll is found containing hidden information.
So my friend God's word is ALIVE! Hebrews 4:12 smiley
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by killyaselfie: 12:38pm On Jan 10, 2022
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Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 1:23pm On Jan 10, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Your story is true but with the above prophecy in mind the first century Jewish disciples of Christ left Jerusalem with the copies of all the scriptures so God's word was safely preserved in the hands of Jesus' most trusted confidants!

Please don't be crossed with me, i know you're saying exactly what happened to Jerusalem in the first century but the Christians have escaped before troubles started. That's why the Apostates who connived with the Roman empire were seriously searching for the Apostles to kill them and destroy all the copies with them. But the Christians have taken the word of God far away from the reach of Rome that's why it was preserved till today.

Jesus' disciples were not able to write only the scribes were writers at that time and the scribes did not accept Jesus as the Messiah so they would not have written scriptures for Him. The only scriptures dating back to the time of Jesus are the scrolls found in kumaran and what they contain is nothing like what we have in the New Testament.
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 1:32pm On Jan 10, 2022
^^^^^^
The New Testament we have today was written under the control of the Roman emperor at the time to favour Roman control.

From the video: The meaning of Gospels in Greek is "Good News Of Military Victory" and at that time the Romans were celebrating their military victories.

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Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:01pm On Jan 10, 2022
MindHacker9000:

Jesus' disciples were not able to write only the scribes were writers at that time and the scribes did not accept Jesus as the Messiah so they would not have written scriptures for Him. The only scriptures dating back to the time of Jesus are the scrolls found in kumaran and what they contain is nothing like what we have in the New Testament.

Just calm down and learn! smiley

Before Jesus went to John for baptism there were proselytes in Judaism (people from other nations that embraced Judaism) most of them have full copies of all the scriptures from Genesis to Malachi as their personal copies of the scriptures. For instance Luke mentioned an Ethiopian who was coming from Jerusalem and "reading aloud the scrolls of Isaiah the prophet" Act 8:28
So don't let anyone deceive you my friend believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. If an Ethiopian can own a copy of the scriptures because he has money to pay the scribes who were mere copyists how much more rich Jewish converts like Zacchaeus, Joseph Arimathea and Nicodemus?
Or do you think a rich roman convert like Cornelius can't afford a copy of his own?
Please the scriptures from Genesis to Malachi is easy to get for Jesus' disciples but as for the story of Jesus well it's the spirit of their God that's working with the copyists (scribes) before the advent of Christianity so there's no useful gift that was missing among the first century Jewish disciples of Christ.
For instance consider Jesus' true followers in modern days "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" they're so skilled in publishing that they're making millions of copies of Bible based publications in over 1047 languages even Google can't meet up with such a huge task.
That's to show you how the spirit of the true God is working!

Forget all those fabricated lies against the truth, Jesus' followers did the writing of their own stories and they did it better than what the scribes did because they wrote their stories in Greek (the most widely spoken language of their time) smiley

Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by sonmvayina(m): 2:06pm On Jan 10, 2022
Christianity started as the worship of serapis...

The transition to Jesus was formalized at the Council of Ephesus...

https://www.nairaland.com/6766026/jesus-serapis-truth-finally-revealed
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:22pm On Jan 10, 2022
So when they had assembled, they asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” He said to them: “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction. But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:6-8

Jesus' true disciples are conquering throughout the world and getting a prepared people ready for the coming Kingdom.
They have gathered millions from different races, erased vengeance from their hearts, compelled them to divert their resources into production of food and information materials, made them vowed never to raise weapons against anyone neither will they learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

There's nothing else the Messiah can do now than coming to exterminate all those rebelling against his peaceful rule! Luke 19:29 smiley
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 5:46pm On Jan 10, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Forget all those fabricated lies against the truth, Jesus' followers did the writing of their own stories and they did it better than what the scribes did because they wrote their stories in Greek (the most widely spoken language of their time) smiley

You do agree that the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 33 AD, did you read this from the followers of Jesus? No, you read it from Roman historians who were keeping records at the time and they also refer to Jesus as a magician as the Romans were not concerned about Him as He was not disturbing the Roman occupation.
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:07pm On Jan 10, 2022
MindHacker9000:

You do agree that the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 33 AD, did you read this from the followers of Jesus? No, you read it from Roman historians who were keeping records at the time and they also refer to Jesus as a magician as the Romans were not concerned about Him as He was not disturbing the Roman occupation.

The word MAGICIAN is enough to tell any right thinking person that Jesus wasn't an ordinary man. There's no other way those pagans can describe a miracle performing prophet than that since what they call such things is MAGIC!

According to Jesus' disciples everyone (including his disciples) were expecting someone who will challenge the Roman empire but Jesus' first earthly mission has nothing to do with the world's government! John 18:36

The way God reason is far higher than man's intellect {Isaiah 55:8-9} first God planned that everyone needs to know how our problem began from Eden, then we need to identify the real enemy of mankind (Satan) and his schemes (politics and racism) when we are free from these schemes then it's time for Jesus to gather all obedient mankind under one recognizable group for everyone to know them that they're no part of the world's politics and wars. Of course with all these fine WORKS Satan will still give faithless people claiming believers many reasons to hate Jesus' real followers {John 15:19} but all eyes will see them that this group stood out! Matthew 5:13-16

So Jesus never tampered with the Roman system of rule because to Jesus all human governments not only Roman empire must be destroyed! Daniel 2:44

But for the true God to prove Himself faultless everything must follow a due process so that all innocent people will have a fair chance of surviving this wicked system of things, nothing like hastiness before the true God who created us and waited all these while until His own appointed time! 2Peter 3:9
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 6:39pm On Jan 10, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

According to Jesus' disciples everyone (including his disciples) were expecting someone who will challenge the Roman empire but Jesus' first earthly mission has nothing to do with the world's government! John 18:36

You have already agreed that the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 33 AD so if you read Matthew 24:1-32 you'll find out that Jesus' first and second earthly mission have already been completed. Read verses 30 & 34
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory." "Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."
The destruction of the temple in Jerusalem was part of the events of Jesus' second mission which has already happened.

The Destruction of the Temple and Signs of the End Times:
Matthew 24:1-32
1Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2“Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”

3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

4Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

15“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ a spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

22“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25See, I have told you ahead of time.

26“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29“Immediately after the distress of those days

“ ‘the sun will be darkened,

and the moon will not give its light;

the stars will fall from the sky,

and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ b

30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth c will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. d 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32“Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it e is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:52pm On Jan 10, 2022
MindHacker9000:


You have already agreed that the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 33 AD so if you read Matthew 24:1-32 you'll find out that Jesus' first and second earthly mission have already been completed. Read verses 30 & 34
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory." "Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."
The destruction of the temple in Jerusalem was past of the events of Jesus' second mission which has already happened.

The Destruction of the Temple and Signs of the End Times:
Matthew 24:1-32
1Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2“Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”

3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

4Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

15“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ a spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

22“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25See, I have told you ahead of time.

26“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29“Immediately after the distress of those days

“ ‘the sun will be darkened,

and the moon will not give its light;

the stars will fall from the sky,

and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ b

30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth c will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. d 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32“Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it e is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

All these epistle just because you've been scammed by Pastors shey? cheesy
When you see JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES coming to preach in your homes you drove them away now after pastors have milked you dry you want everyone to believe that Jesus never existed.
Sorry for your troubles! cheesy
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 8:53pm On Jan 10, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


All these epistle just because you've been scammed by Pastors shey? cheesy
When you see JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES coming to preach in your homes you drove them away now after pastors have milked you dry you want everyone to believe that Jesus never existed.
Sorry for your troubles! cheesy

You are wrong! The truth is that the New Testament is a BIG SCAM and it is the duty of all to expose this BIG SCAM. Information hidden for thousands of years are now freely available on youtube.

TIME TO LET SET THE BRAINWASHED FREE!
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:12pm On Jan 10, 2022
MindHacker9000:

You are wrong! The truth is that the New Testament is a BIG SCAM and it is the duty of all to expose this BIG SCAM. Information hidden for thousands of years are now freely available on youtube.
TIME TO LET SET THE BRAINWASHED FREE!
You're right! Pastor's victim! grin
So everything about Jesus and Christianity is a scam, shey?
No wahala, go and delete Jesus from the brains of billions calling the name out there whether scam or not! cheesy
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 10:02pm On Jan 10, 2022
I wonder how people believe a conquering race would wound a story around a conquered race and sell it to the world for adulation. The very opposite of logic.
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Dtruthspeaker: 5:20am On Jan 11, 2022
HedwigesMaduro:
I wonder how people believe a conquering race would wound a story around a conquered race and sell it to the world for adulation. The very opposite of logic.

Honestly! The stupidity of people is amazing!
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 1:09pm On Jan 11, 2022
HedwigesMaduro:
I wonder how people believe a conquering race would wound a story around a conquered race and sell it to the world for adulation. The very opposite of logic.

So you believe a conquering race just walks away after conquering a race and leave the race to carry on as usual.
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 1:20pm On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

You're right! Pastor's victim! grin
You are referring to those you have brainwashed

MaxInDHouse:

So everything about Jesus and Christianity is a scam, shey?
No wahala, go and delete Jesus from the brains of billions calling the name out there whether scam or not! cheesy

I have already given you plenty of facts which you cannot refute. Now it's your duty to share the GOOD NEWS OF SETTING THE THE BRAINWASHED FREE!

GOD first wrote the TEN COMMANDMENTS HIMSELF and that's is all HE wants us to obey.

You have already agreed that the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 33 AD so if you read Matthew 24:1-32 you'll find out that Jesus' first and second earthly mission have already been completed. Read verses 30 & 34
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory." "Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."
The destruction of the temple in Jerusalem was part of the events of Jesus' second mission which has already happened. So the second coming has been fulfilled.
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:37pm On Jan 11, 2022
MindHacker9000:

You are referring to those you have brainwashed



I have already given you plenty of facts which you cannot refute. Now it's your duty to share the GOOD NEWS OF SETTING THE THE BRAINWASHED FREE!

GOD first wrote the TEN COMMANDMENTS HIMSELF and that's is all HE wants us to obey.

You have already agreed that the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 33 AD so if you read Matthew 24:1-32 you'll find out that Jesus' first and second earthly mission have already been completed. Read verses 30 & 34
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory." "Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."
The destruction of the temple in Jerusalem was part of the events of Jesus' second mission which has already happened. So the second coming has been fulfilled.

This is hilarious! cheesy

Please the highlighted, are you an Israelites? Exodus 5:1; 19:5 cheesy
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 1:52pm On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

This is hilarious! cheesy
Please the highlighted, are you an Israelites? Exodus 5:1; 19:5 cheesy

And are you a lost sheep of Israel?

Matthew 10:5
5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans.
Matthew 15:24
24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:25pm On Jan 11, 2022
MindHacker9000:

And are you a lost sheep of Israel?
Matthew 10:5
5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans.
Matthew 15:24
24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

YES! I am one of the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
By birth i'm from another race but through my line of thinking i belong to the race that cherishes pure worship jealously.
So i was born into the race where pure worship is of no importance to them, they can worship anything as long as their selfish cravings is achieved.
The same applies to an Israelite who happens to be an Israelite by birth but doesn't cherish pure worship! Romans 2:25-29

So i asked you again since the laws belongs to only the lineage of Jacob, are you an Israelites? smiley
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 2:45pm On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

So i asked you again since the laws belongs to only the lineage of Jacob, are you an Israelites? smiley

The Jehovah Witness you follow has this answer for you: https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/10-commandments/

Are the Ten Commandments relevant today?

Yes. Because the Ten Commandments reveal God’s thinking, we can benefit from studying them. (2 Timothy 3:​16, 17) The Ten Commandments are based on reliable principles that will never go out-of-date. (Psalm 111:​7, cool In fact, many of these principles underlie the teachings of what is commonly called the New Testament.​—See “ Principles from the Ten Commandments reflected in the New Testament.”

Jesus taught that the entire Mosaic Law, including the Ten Commandments, rested on two fundamental commandments. He said: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ This is the greatest and first commandment. The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments the whole Law hangs.” (Matthew 22:34-​40) So although Christians are not expected to observe the Mosaic Law, they are commanded to love God and their fellow humans.​—John 13:34; 1 John 4:​20, 21.
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:49pm On Jan 11, 2022
MindHacker9000:

The Jehovah Witness you follow has this answer for you: https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/10-commandments/
Are the Ten Commandments relevant today?
Yes. Because the Ten Commandments reveal God’s thinking, we can benefit from studying them. (2 Timothy 3:​16, 17) The Ten Commandments are based on reliable principles that will never go out-of-date. (Psalm 111:​7, cool In fact, many of these principles underlie the teachings of what is commonly called the New Testament.​—See “ Principles from the Ten Commandments reflected in the New Testament.”
Jesus taught that the entire Mosaic Law, including the Ten Commandments, rested on two fundamental commandments. He said: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ This is the greatest and first commandment. The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments the whole Law hangs.” (Matthew 22:34-​40) So although Christians are not expected to observe the Mosaic Law, they are commanded to love God and their fellow humans.​—John 13:34; 1 John 4:​20, 21.


I never denied the fact that we can benefit from studying God's word from Genesis to Revelation. But quoting a portion and ruling out another portion is what we will never agree. We study the entire Bible to have accurate knowledge of God's word! 2Timothy 3:16-17

So we believe the entire Bible, Jesus is Lord! smiley
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 3:07pm On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

So we believe the entire Bible, Jesus is Lord! smiley

If you believe Jesus then do you believe His second mission has already happened. You have already agreed that the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 33 AD which you did not read in the New Testament. If you read Matthew 24:1-32 you'll find out that Jesus' first and second earthly mission have already been completed. Read verses 30 & 34
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory." "Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."
The destruction of the temple in Jerusalem was part of the events of Jesus' second mission which has already happened.
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 3:12pm On Jan 11, 2022
MindHacker9000:


So you believe a conquering race just walks away after conquering a race and leave the race to carry on as usual.

How you deduced that from what I posted should be one of the mysteries of the world.
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:52pm On Jan 11, 2022
MindHacker9000:

If you believe Jesus then do you believe His second mission has already happened. You have already agreed that the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 33 AD which you did not read in the New Testament. If you read Matthew 24:1-32 you'll find out that Jesus' first and second earthly mission have already been completed. Read verses 30 & 34
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory." "Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."
The destruction of the temple in Jerusalem was part of the events of Jesus' second mission which has already happened.

The underlined shows you need to learn what Jesus really meant instead of jumping to conclusions!
If it's just "part of the events" then that means you're missing something significant in what Jesus said! smiley
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 5:55pm On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

The underlined shows you need to learn what Jesus really meant instead of jumping to conclusions!
If it's just "part of the events" then that means you're missing something significant in what Jesus said! smiley

Jesus said: Matthew 24:29“Immediately after the distress of those days
“ ‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth c will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. d 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
32“Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it e is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

The distress of those days and the destruction of the Temple were the end time events and Jesus said: “Immediately after the distress of those days
“ ‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:10pm On Jan 11, 2022
MindHacker9000:


Jesus said: Matthew 24:29“Immediately after the distress of those days
“ ‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth c will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. d 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
32“Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it e is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

The distress of those days and the destruction of the Temple were the end time events and Jesus said: “Immediately after the distress of those days
“ ‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.


All you need is to ask for the interpretation of what you're reading that's all.
Then after listening carefully to it's meaning try to meditate thoroughly if it's not similar to what is happening right now! smiley
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 6:13pm On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

[s]All you need is to ask for the interpretation of what you're reading that's all.[/s]
[s]Then after listening carefully to it's meaning try to meditate thoroughly if it's not similar to what is happening right now! [/s]smiley

Ok keep on meditating.
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:21pm On Jan 11, 2022
MindHacker9000:

Ok keep on meditating.

No one is forcing you to accept Jesus but you can't debunk what is real most especially when his true disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses) are around! Act 1:8
Thanks for your time! wink
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by Nobody: 6:23pm On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

No one is forcing you to accept Jesus but you can't debunk what is real most especially when his true disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses) are around! Act 1:8
Thanks for your time! wink

Did you find out by reading the New Testament and meditating that the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 33 AD?

MaxInDHouse:

[s]All you need is to ask for the interpretation of what you're reading that's all.[/s]
[s]Then after listening carefully to it's meaning try to meditate thoroughly if it's not similar to what is happening right now! [/s]smiley
Re: Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus - Official Version by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:27pm On Jan 11, 2022
MindHacker9000:

Did you find out by reading the New Testament and meditating that the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 33 AD?

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni since you're not interested in knowing better than what has been infused in your head please continue with your story nah.
But as long as true disciples of Christ (JWs) are around whatever gibberish you try to stir up against the truth will be discarded! Isaiah 54:17 smiley

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