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Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Amadihenrio12H: 9:12am On Jan 12, 2022 |
That's a rented building am seeing and not their permanent structure, bloggers carrying news like the church were the only one renting the propertie ,get your fact right this bloggers won't make heaven |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Psoul(m): 9:21am On Jan 12, 2022 |
This looks like a dilapidated and abandoned building that was renovated without proper support given to the building which will enable it to carry that modern roofing style. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by emmykingzy: 9:21am On Jan 12, 2022 |
djseanjohn77: Oga, I agree with you but since you are knowledgeable about the Bible, you will know that God will never operate without sending a man or men to lead His people. In Nigeria there are real and genuine men of God who also are humans and not perfect but still God uses them. In the same wise, there are fake Men of God spoiling the name the real ones to deceive people. So, instead of judging go find the real ones. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Premiumwriter: 9:25am On Jan 12, 2022 |
backbencher: And his innocent children get punished in his house for what they know nothing about? I'm sure the engineers are alive to this very moment. I'm also sure hundreds of others are glad they were not in church to worship him that faithful day. Sha this no be my bizness |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Nobody: 9:27am On Jan 12, 2022 |
Premiumwriter: That's why God has given us the tool of 'accountability'. Sad that people don't use it. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by emmykingzy: 9:32am On Jan 12, 2022 |
Premiumwriter: Oga, don't mix idol worshipers with true Christianity. The Israelites sacrificed animals on altars not to idols/Baal. Those that sacrifice to idols were killed. That was the Old testament/ covenant with God. Christians already have a once in a lifetime sacrifice which is Christ sacrifice and so don't need any animal or human sacrifice to worship their God. So, it's not the same thing. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by emmykingzy: 9:43am On Jan 12, 2022 |
Techibi6777: Oga, don't get it twisted. The first church Lead by the disciples collected offerings and sacrifices. Go and read how Ananias and Sapphira died through Paul in the Bible. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Premiumwriter: 9:44am On Jan 12, 2022 |
backbencher:God gave us a tool called accountability? It's funny how it's not from the church people learn how to set up committee to investigate issues but from the world and worly government. If its were up to the religious fellows when there's a mishap, all they say is 'it is the will of god' or 'these are trials from the devil and it'll come to pass". And then they actually sit it down and wait till they are either comfortable with the loss or get something better. It's only science and worldly government that investigate and seek to find the cause, actually blame someone for the mishap and then proffer possible solutions on how to prevent it in the future. Please let's be guided |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Premiumwriter: 9:54am On Jan 12, 2022 |
emmykingzy: In the old days (and to this very day, lots of jews still do it), the isrealites offer animal sacrifices to their God. Just as our forefathers did. The only difference is you seem to think the isrealites God is the only true God. Our forefathers think differently. But the concrete fact is that they both offer animal sacrifices to their gods, to any observer there's no difference between these two gods. Secondly, you speak of human Sacrifice like Jesus was not sacrifice on the alter of your God. Now you boast in this human sacrifice and say the aim is to save you and forgive your sins. Do you think your forefathers if they ever sacrificed a human being to their God, have no reason for doing so? If then both gods received equal human and animal sacrifices, why castigate the gods of your forefathers? Most isrealites today will mock Christians not because they hate you but because they can't stomach the fact that their God who despises other gods for receiving human Sacrifices in turn later accepted one in your so called New testament? Do you not see the hypocrisy? |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by emmykingzy: 9:55am On Jan 12, 2022 |
hosemujica:Not all of China and Indians worship idols. There are about 70million Christians in China. But you failed to note that China's and India development started when the opened their economy to Christian Nations like Britian, Germany, USA,Russian and so on. The Top Christian Nations in the world are USA,Germany,Denmark,Britian,Brazil etc. I rather live in any of these Christian countries than stay in China or india. Note, that China and India are developing because of their United and collective mentality to develop their nation irrespective of their beliefs. Stop blaming the church. There are equal number of Muslims in Nigeria. Nigerians, government need to develop that positive mentality to develop this country. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Nobody: 10:02am On Jan 12, 2022 |
Premiumwriter: They do.Slavery was abolished partly because some religious people did more than cry about it If its were up to the religious fellows when there's a mishap, all they say is 'it is the will of god' or 'these are trials from the devil and it'll come to pass". straw-man. Just like me saying atheists want to get rid of all the religious by genocide. And then they actually sit it down and wait till they are either comfortable with the loss or get something better. Many religious people didn't do that in history Obviously you don't really know many religious people. It's only science and worldly government that investigate and seek to find the cause, actually blame someone for the mishap and then proffer possible solutions on how to prevent it in the future. Many religious people have been moved by religion to right wrongs and fight for standards and rules and regulations.Some just don't make mouth and say 'religon made me do it' same as some atheists doing good don't say 'atheism made me do it' Please let;s be guided. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Premiumwriter: 10:03am On Jan 12, 2022 |
emmykingzy: ![]() ![]() They are secular nations please let's be guided bro. Christianity has nothing to do with the development of these nations. Science does. In the medieval ages, the popes were notorious for killing scientists and burning books that contradict the Bible because at that time, the government was in romance with the church. It was much later they got separated. Christianity rode on the progress of science it sought to kill, not the other way around |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by zedman1(m): 10:07am On Jan 12, 2022 |
Premiumwriter:That's the summary bro. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Premiumwriter: 10:13am On Jan 12, 2022 |
backbencher: First of all, slavery was never abolished because of Christianity. That's a huge fact lie. When Abraham Lincoln took up the campaign against slavery, the congress members in support of slavery actually were able to prove that it is right and just for a human being to buy and sell another human being. Guess how they were able to prove this bro? Of course via your holy Bible. Is the 'uprightness' of buying and selling slaves not written all over your holy book? Didn't your God gave humans the right to buy and sell slaves? To own the slaves and their children? To win his argument, Abraham Lincoln turned not to the Bible but to humanity and science. Using the universal principles of fundamental human rights that all humans are born free and should be free. So, stop lying about where freedom from slavery came from. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by emmykingzy: 10:17am On Jan 12, 2022 |
Premiumwriter: Oga, I will give top 3 or more scientists from America that where highly committed christians. The two go together and can also go separately. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Premiumwriter: 10:18am On Jan 12, 2022 |
emmykingzy:I'm waiting for that top 3 that are Christians. As a side note: religion offers nothing to the progress of science other than ethics and morals. If science want to clone a human being to harvest organs, the only take a religious person can offer is "is this right or wrong". That's all you can find in the togetherness of religion and science. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Nobody: 10:22am On Jan 12, 2022 |
Premiumwriter: The abolition of slavery was not just 'lincoln' It has a very long and interesting history..and I'll leave that for you to find out. For now, I'll point out that religion played a role in abolitionist philosophy, and many abolitionists were moved by religion.(Many slavers also used religion arguments...see the division of the Baptists in the USA) Even Brazil, which abolished slavery in 1888, did so because 'they were the last nation in Christendom to have slavery' Good morning. For a better view...read this book For the Glory of God: How Monotheism Led to Reformations, Science, Witch-Hunts, and the End of Slavery Rodney Stark (EPUB). Its not a christian book, FYI. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by emmykingzy: 10:23am On Jan 12, 2022 |
Lexusgs430: Abeg, start the ban and restrictions with your own religion. See Stupid thinking. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Bola146(f): 10:23am On Jan 12, 2022 |
badboyTee: Exactly how what the brainless products your parents gave birth to 2 Likes |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Premiumwriter: 10:27am On Jan 12, 2022 |
backbencher:I know and agree with you that ending slavery wasn't just a Lincoln struggle. What I beg to differ is trying to pin it on Christianity like it was the Christians who actually orchestrated or fought the fight against slavery. That aspect is a lie. Some Christians may have participated in it, but it was not the Bible teaching that pushed them to it. Rather, it's the brewing religion of humanity that all humans are equal and therefore should be free. That's the pushing factor not the religion from Isreal that sanctified owning slaves |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by badboyTee(m): 10:27am On Jan 12, 2022 |
Bola146:bola people died while praying to invisible Yahweh so you that didn't die you call it grace ![]() |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by yomi531(m): 11:03am On Jan 12, 2022 |
Na real wa oo |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by emmykingzy: 11:13am On Jan 12, 2022 |
Premiumwriter: Please, goggle is there to help you but I will give 5 names. You can read up how their Christian beliefs shaped their scientific discoveries and success. 1. ROBERT BOYLE -1627-1691 2. MICHEAL FARADAY- 1791-1867 3. JAMES CLERK MAXWELL- 1831-1879 4. ISSAC NEWTON -1643-1727 5. CHARLES BABBAGE 1791-1871 Oga, read them up easily using Google. I can give you up to 80 names. These are facts and proofs. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Afamsi: 11:17am On Jan 12, 2022 |
cidieschat:Dont kill yourself over tithe matter |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Afamsi: 11:34am On Jan 12, 2022 |
Oracleamehdin:Wow accurate |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by hectorswag(m): 11:49am On Jan 12, 2022 |
Lexusgs430:The problem is that they won't listen to you. In fact, they'd rebuke you for saying this alone. I sorry for Nigerians... ![]() |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by hopefulLandlord: 12:44pm On Jan 12, 2022 |
Premiumwriter: those that fought to keep slavery going in USA had their stand backed by the folklore Bible while the abolitionists don't check out the famous quotes by Christians in support of slavery during the fight for its abolition Slavery was established by decree of Almighty God...it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation...it has existed in all ages, has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts. Jefferson Davis , President, Confederate States of America the right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example. Richard Furman , President, South Carolina Baptist Convention Now let's have a look at the abolitionists and see if they referred to the Bible at all Wilberforce wrote in his diary "God Almighty has set before me two great objects, the suppression of the Slave Trade and Reformation of Morals." Nothing but his own personal shiii, not reference to the Bible at all, obviously whatever influenced him to fight for abolition had NOTHING to do with the Bible, probably his common sense overriding the rubbish book John Wesley who founded Methodist too never used the Bible to support his abolitionist movement neither did Charles Finney nor Theodore Weld nor Harriet Beecher Basically, if Christianity is based on the Bible like Christians are fond of saying then it wasn't the reason slavery was abolished but it was abolished inspite of it as it goes against the Bible. Heck you could even call the Christians who are abolitionists "Sinners" and you wouldn't be wrong! they could be burning in hell forever for daring to go against Yahweh's Hole-ly and perfect instructions |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Premiumwriter: 12:57pm On Jan 12, 2022 |
hopefulLandlord: Thanks for this bro. A lot of blind folks thinks to think that there's nothing good outside their religion. The one that even pains me the most is how the put themselves at the center of everything and want you to accept their positions without any concrete facts. I mean, if it were up to the Bible slavery is as right as breathing. Even the core jews today still have the fantasy that their real messiah is still coming. And that at his coming, he will make everyone that is not a jew, servants of the jews with each jews owing 7-8 slaves at his disposal. It's so bad Africans can't see these religions for what they really are. |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Premiumwriter: 1:02pm On Jan 12, 2022 |
emmykingzy:lolz Those are scientists. The Bible has no bearing on their discovery. Anyone with an inquisitive mind, the right equipment and funding can carryout research and find things. That's why both atheists, hinduists and Muslims can discover new things. Religion doesn't help you to discover things in science, if not the isrealites should have been flying aeroplane before the rest of the world The right mind + right equipment = discoveries. Don't get it twisted |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by Kinterez(m): 1:34pm On Jan 12, 2022 |
It happened close to my house jaree...Even the pastors wife lost her life..evacuation is still on going till now..May their souls rest in peace Amen 1 Like |
Re: Salvation Ministries Collapse: 10 Persons Dead, 8 Rescued by emmykingzy: 2:02pm On Jan 12, 2022 |
Premiumwriter: Oga, I have given you facts and proofs you are here arguing Nd disputing facts about what the Author/scientists wrote about himself, his beliefs and autobiography. You have not presented facts or proofs, you are just speaking grammar. A history of Scientists that you can simply Google and read yourself. It's very obvious you know absolutely nothing about the Bible. Keep arguing with yourself. |
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