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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 2:31pm On Jan 16, 2022
minfelix:

Your first question is a no, we not confirmed as table toppers now because if super eagles loose by a goal margin we will be on +2, while Egypt winning by 3 goal margin they will top us and be on +3


These are the rules though

Going by Rule 1, if Nigeria and Egypt are level on points, Nigeria edges them by virtue of their win against Egypt.

If Nigeria and Egypt had escaped with one point each, that is when Goal difference would have come into play.

Cc @sophtcopy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:32pm On Jan 16, 2022
IDENNAA:



Oga , stand your ground and make your arguments without throwing other people under the bus. I never compared them but due to the fact they both play in the midfield and this midfield has continued to struggle it requires thorough assessment , and possibly solutions. The questions should be ; Who plays there ? What do they bring and why is the midfield unable to hold possession and connect with attack. When we dissect thess issues bedevilling the team names of players come up.

I dont have anything against Aribo , all I ask of him is to bring stability to the team since its his responsibility....Aribo's duty is not to score but to instill a level of creativity and cohesion in the opponents area. Sadly , Aribo struggled to bring order in the first 25 minutes and it was during this time the midfield was in tatters. Yes , we scored an early goal which sort of concealed our apparent faults and lack of team play in the midfield.

I think what is happening is players still adjusting. Unlike what we are seeing, there is still some challenges the team is facing.

Now I think the first thing Eguavoen wants is attack. I am still trying to understand him but his selection and changes yesterday threw me off tangent. However, I think the first thing he wants is attack.

He is not after Aribo calming the midfield but putting the defense under pressure. That was why despite the chaos, we still scored. However, when we had a confident lead, Eguavoen opted to calm the team and made the adjustment to do so.

I think if we are going against a more clinical side, the coaching crew will make the necessary adjustment and style of play to suit it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 2:33pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
But the thing is he did. And the stats picked it up. Says he executed 100% of his long balls attempts. 3/3.

If we all watch the game with keen attention again, we would all see the exact moments he recorded all three long balls. The one that easily comes to mind was the one to Zaidu because it was quite effortless and sweet.

And yes, he has been very decent as a sub and doing what a bonafide central Midfield player would do. I mean he is doing exactly what we all hail Pedri for. Even Jorginho for goodness sake.

Pedri is a pass master and so is Nwakali. Both are adept at ball recycling and keeping the possession going for a team. They are also playmakers from deep. We hail Pedri as a Baller but we look down on Nwakali. It's funny

This is not hype. Nwakali came in and we had better control of the middle. He did what he was instructed to do. Keep possession. Progress if necessary and just generally keep things tidy and cool in the middle.

Ndidi even fared better alongside Nwakali but Eguavoen is still keen to allow things gel gradually. I think this is why he still haven't gone with a 3 man midfield.

The moment Eguavoen unleashes an Ndidi-Nwakali-Aribo trio combo may just be the moment in time we all finally see what I have been cross-analysing on all 3 players finally bear fruit on a tactically Balanced scale.

Against Bissau, let's see what Eguavoen and the crew unleash as our Middle game approach.






You are right about Ndidi's change of attitude when Nwakali came it. Suddenly I thought Ndidi was playing a 10 with his charging runs into the opponent spaces. I was actually shocked and thought Nwakali was playing DM.

These guys here don't understand the options and dept the presence of Nwakali bring to this team. I see it because I am person that thrives in details...my profession requires me pay attention to every detail.....maka ndi ngbu.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 2:33pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
He is not hyping. He is simply drawing a similarity based on how both Midfielders operate.

Mikel is a legend and cannot be compared to little Nwakali but they do have similar playing styles. Both are bonafide MF conductors. That is the point he makes.


It is hyping

He should compare him to someone more up his speed. We don't mention Mikel's name anyhow here. We don't even have any Mikel replacement.

We just have players doing their jobs.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:34pm On Jan 16, 2022
Kill the tot that everyone who wears #10 must be absolutely good at everything playmaking. It is not so.

Aribo's duty in this two man Midfield set-up under Eguavoen so far is simply to help in Central Midfield duties like marking & passing, help in the high intensity press strategy we employ (GenGen press) when in defensive transitions and ofcos attack the box at will when in offensive transitions.

He is Box-to-box in our current set-up.

IDENNAA:


Ok: I probably lost my day but might you remind me what is Aribi's duty as a midfielder who wears the legendary number 10. I want to know because he is not a striker.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:35pm On Jan 16, 2022
I repeat. It is not. Mikel is actually the best example in most recent times to describe and show a clearer picture of what attributes Nwakali has and brings to the table in the middle game.

Mikel was the last true MF conductor we had and he left the scene just in 2019. So my dear Lana... it is not Hype.

safarigirl:


It is hyping

He should compare him to someone more up his speed. We don't mention Mikel's name anyhow here. We don't even have any Mikel replacement.

We just have players doing their jobs.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by dkay51(m): 2:36pm On Jan 16, 2022
IDENNAA:
Next match preferred line-up:

Uzoho

Ebuehi
Nda
Omeruo
Collins

Ndidi
Onyeka
Nwakali

Onyekuru
Nacho
Ejuke

I'd prefer

Uzoho

Ebuehi
Ajayi
Awaziem
Collins

Onyeka
Nwakali
Iwobi

Onyekuru
Nacho
Ejuke

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 2:37pm On Jan 16, 2022
kingphilip:

Sorry what you dug up was for Chidiebere and not for Kelechi

So you can pull up the right one

There's nothing.. Absolutely nothing on whoscored about Nwakali..

Here's a detailed stat about him from sofascore...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:39pm On Jan 16, 2022
Joezinho:


And what exactly are the things Nwakali brings to the team? Passing accuracy of which half are back passes?

We understand why Nwakali is in the team.. All na marketing... Personally, I'm not against using the NT to advance the careers of talented players, but it needs to be transparent and it needs to be available to any special talent, not simply those with connected agents...

It should not be at the expense of more qualified players, hence it should be limited to friendlies and not tournament squads..


WE HAVE BEEN CRYING FOR YEARS THAT SINCE MIKEL LEFT, THE MIDFIELD HAS LACKED SOMEONE THAT CAN COORDINATE MIDFIELD PLAY.

EGUAVOEN ALSO LISTED LONG BALLS AS SOMETHING HE WANTS IN MIDFIELD.

These are things we need and Nwakali offers. So, it is not about marketing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:41pm On Jan 16, 2022
dkay51:


I'd prefer

Uzoho

Ebuehi
Ajayi
Awaziem
Collins

Onyeka
Nwakali
Iwobi

Onyekuru
Nacho
Ejuke

I think Sadiq deserves a start. Let Nacho sit it out. Is Awaziem ready? If not, nice list.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 2:42pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
I repeat. It is not. Mikel is actually the best example in most recent times to describe and show a clearer picture of what attributes Nwakali has and brings to the table in the middle game.

Mikel was the last true MF conductor we had and he left the scene just in 2019. So my dear Lana... it is not Hype.


It is hyping

And I am not talking solely of that post, but everything else he has been posting since yesterday. It is generally hyping Nwakali and his impact.

Hype.

You don't have to agree that it is hype, because you too, have been hyping him and it is normal that you do not see it as hype.

Please, remember the definition of HYPE, when you want to argue what it is. If you are praising a player, you are hyping them. Calling him "midfield conductor" alone, is hype.

I generally don't even like comparisons between older players with the new ones, because it puts unnecessary pressure on the young ones. Na so dem wan use Okocha tax finish my poor Iwobi.


Anyway, both of you can hype your guy, but kindly leave the sacred name of Mikel alone in the hype. I don't care for none of these other hoes, make una just leave my Odogwu.


Thank you.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:45pm On Jan 16, 2022
IDENNAA:


You want to start Nwakali from the bench ? Your most gifted midfielder ? Are you not aware he should be starting games ahead of every other midfielder there if it wasn't for Rohr's shortsightedness.
This is where the hype come from. Truth is that Nwakali has something to contribute to the team. But easy on this bestness you pin on him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:46pm On Jan 16, 2022
safarigirl:



Good Joe, please, hype Nwakali all you want, but comot Mikel name in the hype. Thank you.

Dearie, playing style does not mean he plays to the level of Mikel. Haba. I know how to respect someone that Sabi.

Mikel is on another galaxy but Nwakali plays a similar way.

Reminds me of how the media wanted to kill Rodgers for saying Joe Allen is the Welsh Xavi. He was saying Joe Allen plays like Xavi but never meant he was on the same level as Xavi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:49pm On Jan 16, 2022
safarigirl:


It is hyping

And I am not talking solely of that post, but everything else he has been posting since yesterday. It is generally hyping Nwakali and his impact.

Hype.

You don't have to agree that it is hype, because you too, have been hyping him and it is normal that you do not see it as hype.

Please, remember the definition of HYPE, when you want to argue what it is. If you are praising a player, you are hyping them. Calling him "midfield conductor" alone, is hype.

I generally don't even like comparisons between older players with the new ones, because it puts unnecessary pressure on the young ones. Na so dem wan use Okocha tax finish my poor Iwobi.


Anyway, both of you can hype your guy, but kindly leave the sacred name of Mikel alone in the hype. I don't care for none of these other hoes, make una just leave my Odogwu.


Thank you.

I disagree with the bolded. Midfield conductor is just a playing style. Is just like saying Aina is a right back that makes dashing runs. Then someone will regard that as hyping. It is his quality. Hype is when you over blow it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 2:49pm On Jan 16, 2022
lbrichman2:


Exactly
Nwakali is a different type of player altogether
He is a DLP, not a DM or an AM
As long as peeps don't understand these subtle but profound differences, we will keep having all the Nwakali arguments et al

Nwakali has played both as right winger/right side midfielder and attacking midfielder.

In fact , having Nwakali as AM makes him the most dangerous player in your box 18. Nwakali has magical feet and eagle eye view.

I think the problem with Nwakali is after he had that one misfortune at the Dutch club and they offloaded him his confidence suffered over the years but his God given gifts are still there. I believe he will rediscover his confidence in this tournament and win the trust of his teammates.

Furthermore , Nwakali is actually a great leader on the field; I remember he used to yell at his teammates for messing up play at Chile 2015 U17....lol. Nwakali was a total boss both on and off the field and his mates , Osimhen , Chukwueze , Bamgboye etc respect him. As soon as the player learn what Nwakali is capable of they would adjust for him because he has got special gift ....no be hype

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:50pm On Jan 16, 2022
safarigirl:


It is hyping

And I am not talking solely of that post, but everything else he has been posting since yesterday. It is generally hyping Nwakali and his impact.

Hype.

You don't have to agree that it is hype, because you too, have been hyping him and it is normal that you do not see it as hype.

Please, remember the definition of HYPE, when you want to argue what it is. If you are praising a player, you are hyping them. Calling him "midfield conductor" alone, is hype.

I generally don't even like comparisons between older players with the new ones, because it puts unnecessary pressure on the young ones. Na so dem wan use Okocha tax finish my poor Iwobi.


Anyway, both of you can hype your guy, but kindly leave the sacred name of Mikel alone in the hype. I don't care for none of these other hoes, make una just leave my Odogwu.


Thank you.


It is not hype. Your tagging it so is only a simple misinterpretation of what we have been trying to tell you all who obviously don't understand what such kind of Midfielders, in this case Nwakali, brings to the table.

It is okay to admit you don't see what he brings but tagging as hype an attempt by some to explain what he does bring is only denying yourself the opportunity to understand certain middle game dynamics.

Look, we learn everyday. So it is not hype. Merci aussi.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 2:53pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


WE HAVE BEEN CRYING FOR YEARS THAT SINCE MIKEL LEFT, THE MIDFIELD HAS LACKED SOMEONE THAT CAN COORDINATE MIDFIELD PLAY.

EGUAVOEN ALSO LISTED LONG BALLS AS SOMETHING HE WANTS IN MIDFIELD.

These are things we need and Nwakali offers. So, it is not about marketing.

So you are basically saying Nwakali is the next mikel?

Expecting Nwakali to play like mikel(dictate the pace and tempo of games, tackle like a monster, dead ball specialist etc) is like expecting the sun to rise in the West.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 2:56pm On Jan 16, 2022
Joezinho:


So our midfield was chaotic before he came in? grin

Are you trying to downplay Aribo or am i missing something.. Even though mikel was the president of backward passes, he protected the ball, dictated the pace of games, tackled like a monster, cherished wars and was smooth as silk.. Can you say the same about Nwakali?


When I talk now una go say I no like Aribo. Its quite funny how soon you guys forget. Have you forgotten we have been struggling in the midfield with Aribo featuring constantly when Rohr called the shots ?

Why is everyone acting like Aribo is some kind of excellent midfield maestro who has saved us and suddenly Nwakali is here to ruin it. Haven't we been struggling in the presence of Aribo and Iwobi ?

You guys really need to define what Aribo brings to the team....as for me , I am just looking and digging....lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 2:57pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I disagree with the bolded. Midfield conductor is just a playing style. Is just like saying Aina is a right back that makes dashing runs. Then someone will regard that as hyping. It is his quality. Hype is when you over blow it.

Overhype is when you overblow it

Hype is simply the praising and promotion of someone's abilities. You and SuperNerd have used so many flowery words in the description of Nwakali's contribution to the team, person wey no sabi am go think say una dey talk of prime Iniesta. So, hype.

You can disagree with the definition, but I have called it as I have seen it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 2:57pm On Jan 16, 2022
eguavoen is anger with Sadiq
Said he didn't follow his instructions
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:58pm On Jan 16, 2022
Joezinho:


So you are basically saying Nwakali is the next mikel?

Expecting Nwakali to play like mikel(dictate the pace and tempo of games, tackle like a monster, dead ball specialist etc) is like expecting the sun to rise in the West.

I give up. where did you get that from?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:01pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Saying go and sleep is not a point. It is a sign of frustration. In the end, you can not blame me for you not understanding a basic point.

Eguavoen likes a player that CAN DICTATE play from deep with long balls.

That is not Eguavoen wants the player to always keep throwing long balls, even if the situation does not demand it.


OKAY?

Finito.


One of the easiest skill sets of you can even call it that is the " long ball". It's a skill set , just like walking and running anybody in can do.

There is nothing in unique or outstanding about "police game" long ball. Most teams use technical be ability, skill and tram strategy to retain possession , not the long ball.

Finally, is that what Eguavon said to you

There is no player in that SE selection that cannot kick a long ball.

That so called justification is not justified.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 3:01pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


WE HAVE BEEN CRYING FOR YEARS THAT SINCE MIKEL LEFT, THE MIDFIELD HAS LACKED SOMEONE THAT CAN COORDINATE MIDFIELD PLAY.

EGUAVOEN ALSO LISTED LONG BALLS AS SOMETHING HE WANTS IN MIDFIELD.

These are things we need and Nwakali offers. So, it is not about marketing.


I no know who dey follow you cry since Mikel left O.

E never too tey wey Mikel leave, so, when we begin dey cry these tears?

The only thing we have been crying for, is for Rohr to leave make we know who sabi play ball, and we are seeing that now.

Nwakali has not offered the long balls Eguaveon is looking for, if na by that one, we fit even drop Awaziem inside midfield and you will see more long balls from him. Accurate balls wey fit lead to goals, no be the one wey Maduka go dey chase make e for no enter net.

Take am easy abeg, no advertise market wey you no go fit sell.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:01pm On Jan 16, 2022
safarigirl:


Overhype is when you overblow it

Hype is simply the praising and promotion of someone's abilities. You and SuperNerd have used so many flowery words in the description of Nwakali's contribution to the team, person wey no sabi am go think say una dey talk of prime Iniesta. So, hype.

You can disagree with the definition, but I have called it as I have seen it.



It is only you that knows where my man Iniesta enter this talk. Haba my safarigirl.

On a serious note, it is just quality. Bring stability is a normal term. Not hype. Calming a chaotic midfield is not hype. Good pass accuracy is a factual statement, not hype. Saying he gave a good pass to the wide left is a factual statement not hype.

I can not remember any other flowery word.

Okay coordination in midfield. That is not hype.

It is TheSuperNerd that said conductor. See him there.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 3:03pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I give up. where did you get that from?

You literally just said Nwakali is the Mikel replacement we you have been crying for
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:05pm On Jan 16, 2022
safarigirl:



I no know who dey follow you cry since Mikel left O.

E never too tey wey Mikel leave, so, when we begin dey cry these tears?

The only thing we have been crying for, is for Rohr to leave make we know who sabi play ball, and we are seeing that now.

Nwakali has not offered the long balls Eguaveon is looking for, if na by that one, we fit even drop Awaziem inside midfield and you will see more long balls from him. Accurate balls wey fit lead to goals, no be the one wey Maduka go dey chase make e for no enter net.

Take am easy abeg, no advertise market wey you no go fit sell.

If you didn't cry, me I cried. Mikel leaving pained me and I know I for one complained most times about our poor midfield showings. TheSuperNerd cried like a town crier about it repeatedly. Some others did.

2019 looks not so long, but it really is when it concerns National team. We have played an AFCON and qualifiers without such control in midfield.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 3:05pm On Jan 16, 2022
Mujtahida:

This is where the hype come from. Truth is that Nwakali has something to contribute to the team. But easy on this bestness you pin on him. If he's our best, then our level is quite low.


Well , that is one straight way of looking at it. You could also say your most gifted midfielder ( remember I didn't use best...you did , my learned man...lol) just happened play in the second division. These things happen a lot. Sometimes, clubs doesn't prove the quality of a player.

Take this case in point ; Iwobi has struggled in England for many years with nothing to show for his ratings but he is still there because he is English and our gifted Nwakali could not even get workers permit to play in England.

The other day Cc.Kogs45 was here defending the "sufferings" of Aribo....he said Aribo went through alot in life because he dropped out of school...I was shocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:05pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I will do a write-up later. Ranting will not help you now. Nwakali hardly lost possession in midfield.

Several times the Sudanese took the ball off him. Particularly when he was never under any pressure.

His work rate is abysmal when you come in last 29 minutes you should be going box to box not backwards and giving long ball's to striker who will fall down at the slightest touch.

I can't wait for Onyeka to play and if he doesn't then l know NFF normal politics has returned.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:07pm On Jan 16, 2022
safarigirl:


You literally just said Nwakali is the Mikel replacement we you have been crying for

Since Mikel left, we have lacked someone to play tidy midfield link-up plays. That is something Mikel brought and we have lacked. Nwakali from time has offered that. This does not mean he is the replacement of Mikel.

He still has a long way to go and people miss something. No two players can ever be the same. Mikel never replaced Okocha in the Jay-Jay way but brought his own bit of magic.

If Nwakali owns the midfield in the coming years, he will not do it precisely like Mikel but bring his own bit of magic.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:08pm On Jan 16, 2022
komekn:


Several times the Sudanese took the ball off him. Particularly when he was never under any pressure.

His work rate is abysmal when you come in last 29 minutes you should be going box to box not backwards and giving long ball's to striker who will fall down at the slightest touch.

I can't wait for Onyeka to play and if he doesn't then l know NFF normal politics has returned.


Haba, several times?

Ni.

I remember few and one was a zone press even Messi loses balls in such condition.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:10pm On Jan 16, 2022
IDENNAA:



Well , that is one straight way of looking at it. You could also say your most gifted midfielder ( remember I didn't use best...you did , my learned man...lol) just happened play in the second division. These things happen a lot. Sometimes, clubs doesn't prove the quality of a player.

Take this case in point ; Iwobi has struggled in England for many years with nothing to show for his ratings but he is still there because he is English and our gifted Nwakali could not even get workers permit to play in England.

The other day Cc.Kogs45 was here defending the "sufferings" of Aribo....he said Aribo went through alot in life because he dropped out of school...I was shocked
Anyway me I don't have anything against Nwakali. He's performances while lacking the wow factor has been decent. I'm open to him being given a run in our next match so we can see his giftedness (and I'm not being sarcastic)

The thing is that as a fan of the Eagles, I support all our players to well. It is in their doing well that the team soars.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:11pm On Jan 16, 2022
Samueltemi337:
eguavoen is anger with Sadiq
Said he didn't follow his instructions
I watched his post match interview. He did not mention Sadiq but it's clear that Sadiq was the person in question

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