LILTJAY1:
actually i am a fucking Yoruba idiot

Inukwa ?

NapoleonHill:


If you're an Igbo person, you're about the calmest and most analytical I've seen on this space in a long time. This is the way to engage a conversation but your kinsmen don't have the emotional intelligence, sorry to say, to make such engagement.

That said, I want to inform you that what you call mere banters are, in fact, not so. They form the core and basis of what eventually goes to play in reality. They influence, ignite, and trigger people even in their daily activities with other tribes. The truth is, these banters are popular opinions among tribes and may not be overlooked at all.

So emotional intelligence is exclusive to which tribe in your parochial mind? Sorry for yourself chief, since you're uncivilised and cannot rise above primordial sentiments.

And even if those stereotypes amount to perceived reality for most Nigerians, I will not agree thatits enough reason to not want to vote an Igbo man for president.

It has to be something more sinister at work.

olisaEze:
Politics in Nigeria is a 'winner takes all' affair. The igbos as astute in marketing as they are, don’t know how to market themselves in politics, that’s why. You can either be President or you can choose to keep fighting for a phantom country, but u can’t have both! "The Yoruba are snakes and come from a brown roof republic", "the Hausas are murderers", "the Middle-belters are Fulani enablers", "the South-South are living in Biafraland". You’ll always stand alone when ure a know it all, that’s a fact! If the Igbo want support from the rest of the country, let them build bridges and not cheer as MNK burns them to the ground.

Please keep this foolish characterization in your empty skull. Who in his/her right senses would want to market anything to Nigerians? Igbo are very result-oriented and do not want waste their time on shithole called Nigeria.

aribisala0:
Eboes did not vote a Yoruba ,at any time

Spare that story for the gods.

You contested against Obasanjo and were defeated.

So why don't you contest against Tinubu or whoever and defeat them.

If you are successful in clinching the tickets of PDP AND APC then see if Nigerians will vote for you

Do not make false comparisons

You MUST COMPETE AT THE PARTY LEVEL and clinch tickets there . Do not expect any party to gift you their candidacy because you are Eboe

Are you really this comfortable publicly displaying your uncouthness and tribalism in full glare?.

LLiKYekoba:


Gayoso, I am an IGBO alpha male and you know it. That pix is not far from what I really look like.

Lol. Same as every Igbo Ladipo spare parts hustler and third mainland bridge hawker is a "CEO" and Banana Island "mansion owner".

Do you have another meaning for INTEGRATE and ASSIMILATE ?cos I don't think you believe for a second that most Igbos have these tendencies.

TheRealestGuy:


It is a known fact that Igbos integrate wherever they find themselves and also assimilate other cultures - if that isn't nation building then what is?

As for your last statement, yes Igbos do sort of have a superiority complex which can be a real cause of disaffection but I don't agree that having a superiority complex should be the reason why they are a target for killing at every instance of Riots in the North or why they should never be in the presidency in Nigeria.

TheRealestGuy:


So emotional intelligence is exclusive to which tribe in your parochial mind? Sorry for yourself chief, since you're uncivilised and cannot rise above primordial sentiments.

And even if those stereotypes amount to perceived reality for most Nigerians, I will not agree thatits enough reason to not want to vote an Igbo man for president.

It has to be something more sinister at work.

I'm actually sorry you because you seem to know everything already and your thread wouldn't be necessary at all. You cannot determine for others what their reasons or otherwise should be to vote or not vote for an Igbo man. The beauty of democracy is that I don't owe you an explanation and people will make their choices as you continue to be an onlooker.

The qualities you enumerate as being the Igbo man's strength are actually his undoing in the Nigerian political space. The notion of being republican and not easily regimented behind a leader keeps fueling the superiority complex of an average Igbo man. This attitude has prevented him from being able to make calculated decisions, long term alliances and future projections that will favour their foray into national politics. All the 'We are Republican in nature', 'Igbo ewe ron'eze', 'We are the best tribe' and more gets you to do is make rash and uncalculated political choices; blinds you to project into the future and make alignments towards your goal, and present yourself as sagacious. This also makes you denigrate others who have a strong sense of leader-follower systems. You abuse them, mock them and make them look primitive and stupid because they don't do things the way you perceive is the best and smartest.

As long as you haven't been cured of the ideology of not submitting to any single man's leadership, you can't have it smooth politically. Your politicians will find it difficult to keep a support base, no matter how loyal they are. That ideology helped sustained your clannish and age group system of existence before the arrival of colonialism. The world has moved on very far and all over, people are choosing leaders and supporting them to chart the way for their development.

Self-help might work for you in business and in developing your towns, but it has also made you politically docile, and that why your region has some of the most incompetent political office holders who can gladly loot the treasury with little or not opposition because those he ought to deliver the dividends of democracy to are by themselves providing these amenities and still beating their chest that they were able to do so by themselves without government help.

TheRealestGuy:


Your comments in quotes are simply banter that we all do to each other.

Similar to "Igbo man fit sell him family or use him mama for rituals, dem too like money". These banks should not form basis of treating them like second class citizens and keeping them away from the presidency perpetually.

The average hausa-fualni has been killing Igbos and other southerners since the 1950s for one flimsy reason or another. This did not make Igbos to not vote Yar'adua or hate Atiku.

About Igbos not "knowing how to market themselves in politics" the thing is that the average Igbo man does not conform to herd thinking and tries to be as republican in nature as possible. Also, I'm not sure what marketing Yar'adua ever did or GEJ, for them to be elected presidents.

Sunofgod:


http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/27267-yoruba-elders-meet-jonathan-over-marginalisation

Sunofgod:
GEJ should have just chased them out of the room.

Why even answer their questions.

SMH

aljharem:
this people are funny u know. Just i thought this people want to eat there cake and have it again

they all voted for ACN thus they want regional government ie fedralism

yet they still want the advantages of being in the mainstream politics

abeg make them go sit down

when it is time they should go meet tinubu there master

Afam4eva:
Al_harem has spoken the truth. You cannot eat your cake and still want to have. PDP controls the center.So, states that will benefit from the center are PDP states. They should go and meet oga Tinubu if they feel marginalized

Now THEY ARE GOING TO MEET OGA TINUBU

aribisala0:






Now THEY ARE GOING TO MEET OGA TINUBU

Another glaring example of a fundamental flaws of the Igbo man that has made him the political outcast and pariah he is today.

No sense of planning for the future allied to doing right by others and gaining the reciprocal reward of that thoughtfulness.

Everything for the Igbo is about what he can gain/eat today never mind what/who he offends in the process.

APC tried, patiently and graciously, to carry them along in 2013-2014 before the official merger. They rejected that gentleman overtures vehemently, insultingly and with needless animosity.

Today they have gone back to their vomit and are begging APC for their ticket after all their shameless 'food is ready' charlatans like Umahi, Kalu etal have decamped to the Party to eat meals they did not help prepare.

Meanwhile Tinubu they savage non-stop is one of the best example of Party loyalty, dedication to a cause and political steadfastness Nigeria has seen since 1999.

Their own leaders, including Obi, only want to be political prostitutes because the average Igbo man lacks abiding principles. Everything is about what he can eat today and what he can gain immediately.

GuyfawkesAB:


The qualities you enumerate as being the Igbo man's strength are actually his undoing in the Nigerian political space. The notion of being republican and not easily regimented behind a leader keeps fueling the superiority complex of an average Igbo man. This attitude has prevented him from being able to make calculated decisions, long term alliances and future projections that will favour their foray into national politics. All the 'We are Republican in nature', 'Igbo ewe ron'eze', 'We are the best tribe' and more gets you to do is make rash and uncalculated political choices; blinds you to project into the future and make alignments towards your goal, and present yourself as sagacious. This also makes you denigrate others who have a strong sense of leader-follower systems. You abuse them, mock them and make them look primitive and stupid because they don't do things the way you perceive is the best and smartest.

As long as you haven't been cured of the ideology of not submitting to any single man's leadership, you can't have it smooth politically. Your politicians will find it difficult to keep a support base, no matter how loyal they are. That ideology helped sustained your clannish and age group system of existence before the arrival of colonialism. The world has moved on very far and all over, people are choosing leaders and supporting them to chart the way for their development.

Self-help might work for you in business and in developing your towns, but it has also made you politically docile, and that why your region has some of the most incompetent political office holders who can gladly loot the treasury with little or not opposition because those he ought to deliver the dividends of democracy to are by themselves providing these amenities and still beating their chest that they were able to do so by themselves without government help.

1000% correct.

Aufbauh:
The simple reason is that we've seen through their actions and words that they're are Democratic in nature.
They have shown over the time that they lack most of the Democratic tendencies to govern a multiethnic and multi religious country like Nigeria.

Again we don't really know what they want going by their disposition. Today it's Biafra or death, then tomorrow it's Nigeria president.

Also they are the least patriotic tribe in Nigeria to be entrusted the highest office of the nation.

Some of these responses are hilarious!

One would have thought, given that Igbos (being adjudged to have all these ‘negatives’ by smug, ‘saintly’, holier-than-thou analysts who come from ‘good’ ethnicities Igbos should learn good moral conduct and how to ‘play politics’ from )....given that the ‘bad’ Igbos have left the presidency for these smart alecs since 1966 and that Nigeria has been doing things their way since then, one would have thought the country would have been a united, peaceful and happy first-world El-Dorado by now and mentioned in the same breath with the likes of Singapore and UAE! Is this the case!?

dry

aribisala0:


Let us be clear what the bone of contention is

I do not engage in meaningless discussion

Correct me if I am misunderstanding

Your position is that the APC and PDP should give the Eboes their presidential candidates and others should not contest.

Is that right?

The hate and angst which have taken over your sensibilities make it impossible for you to reason and engage objectively...

What is the difference between your views and that of someone arguing in a beer parlour?

TheRealestGuy:


You obviously have an intense dislike or hate for Igbos so much that you try to sound as denigrating as possible at any given chance.

All those things you mentioned can be found in every tribe so you don't have any good reason for your crass behaviour.

May you find healing.

He is labouring in futility to hide a patent inferiority and a puny envy for what the Igbos represent...

His nightmares will become reality pretty soon...

Grayoso:


This is what makes you Igbos despicaple. You wrote things directly disrespectful of Yorubas who are acclaimed one of the greatest ethnic groups of Africa.

When I respond in kind to your irreverence you are now playing victim like a despicable and two-faced coward. Why are you Igbos so dishonorable and completely without integrity?

If you can dish it then be prepared to take it. That is what I love about Yorubas. We are always ready to accept we are flawed to then work to improve ourselves by addressing our shortcomings.

Not so you unprincipled Igbos. Below is the emptily offensive crap you wrote I responded to.

Oya 'spin' again and play victim.

You should be ashamed of yourself...

Are you an individual for whom so much resources were expended to get educated or a motor park urchin who has not ever heard of civility?

Nobody care about your preferences but don't come here and be rubbishing yourself with gutter language...

There should be better ways of articulating whatever you want to assert...

GuyfawkesAB:
The qualities you enumerate as being the Igbo man's strength are actually his undoing in the Nigerian political space. The notion of being republican and not easily regimented behind a leader keeps fueling the superiority complex of an average Igbo man. This attitude has prevented him from being able to make calculated decisions, long term alliances and future projections that will favour their foray into national politics. All the 'We are Republican in nature', 'Igbo ewe ron'eze', 'We are the best tribe' and more gets you to do is make rash and uncalculated political choices; blinds you to project into the future and make alignments towards your goal, and present yourself as sagacious. This also makes you denigrate others who have a strong sense of leader-follower systems. You abuse them, mock them and make them look primitive and stupid because they don't do things the way you perceive is the best and smartest.

As long as you haven't been cured of the ideology of not submitting to any single man's leadership, you can't have it smooth politically. Your politicians will find it difficult to keep a support base, no matter how loyal they are. That ideology helped sustained your clannish and age group system of existence before the arrival of colonialism. The world has moved on very far and all over, people are choosing leaders and supporting them to chart the way for their development.

Self-help might work for you in business and in developing your towns, but it has also made you politically docile, and that why your region has some of the most incompetent political office holders who can gladly loot the treasury with little or not opposition because those he ought to deliver the dividends of democracy to are by themselves providing these amenities and still beating their chest that they were able to do so by themselves without government help.

Lmao.

What a load of tripe!

You talk as if there's any region in Nigeria that has actually enjoyed the dividends of democracy.

It's same story all around the nation so spare me your sanctimonious BS please.

My question is just an attempt to get people to actually tell why they'd never vote an Igbo man not that voting an Igbo man will actually have any much impact on the general citizenry cos the structure of the country means it is designed to fail.

Igbos actually value true leaders not criminals and kleptomaniacs posing as leaders.

You're definitely a subservient human being and my culture frowns against being subservient to anyone except God and one's parents.

Good day!

maestroferddi:
You should be ashamed of yourself...

Are you an individual for whom so much resources were expended to get educated or a motor park urchin who has not ever heard of civility?

Nobody care about your preferences but don't come here and be rubbishing yourself with gutter language...

There should be better ways of articulating whatever you want to assert...

Shut up. Stop quoting me. I dont speak decorously to Igbos because you don't deserve it. Now get lost. Go and make your human shish kebab lunch.

IGBOSON1:


Some of these responses are hilarious!

One would have thought, given that Igbos (being adjudged to have all these ‘negatives’ by smug, ‘saintly’, holier-than-thou analysts who come from ‘good’ ethnicities Igbos should learn good moral conduct and how to ‘play politics’ from )....given that the ‘bad’ Igbos have left the presidency for these smart alecs since 1966 and that Nigeria has been doing things their way since then, one would have thought the country would have been a united, peaceful and happy first-world El-Dorado by now and mentioned in the same breath with the likes of Singapore and UAE! Is this the case!?

It's a freaking comedy show all around.

They keep harping on Igbos being politically naive and I wonder what good all the political acumen of the North and West and Middle belt has done for their regions considering the fact that in most Human Development Indices, the East is even faring relatively better than them.

It's a sorry case all round.

Grayoso:


Lol. You guys are offensively delusional and this is part of the reason you are detested.

Why would a Yoruba envy any Igbo? What do you have we dont have bigger and better of?

You are, in many millions, immigrants to Yorubaland. Yet you brag emptily and without modesty for what you are and your actual dependent reality. What would Igbos be today if confined to the 5 States of ala Igbo and denied access to the markets of Nigeria?

Vis-a-vis Yorubas and Igbos, it is like saying the average Caucasian Brit envies Pakistanis because they have cornershops everywhere and are modestly successful.

Is the average Brit not smart enough to know that if Pakistan is somewhere Pakistanis are running away from, to find success in the UK, then this illustrates the fact that Pakistanis are not competent nation builders?

Which Pakistani, aware of the reality back home they have escaped, spends every second insulting their British host as Igbo do all other Nigerians?

Only fools will envy Igbos. A people who have nothing, no culture and no 'anchors', and are entirely reliant on others for their sustenance, yet think they are better than all others.

You yorubas don't have anything to envy in the igbos yet u joined the fulani north to go to war to keep the same igbos in nigeria. All these ur long epistle u wrote here could have made sense if u people have remained neutral in that war but we know that u guys and the north are almost the same people who depends on the resources of the SS/SE for survival and for ur infrastructural development that's why u all came together to keep the same people u despite so much in this unworkable enclave.

JOemmy:



You yorubas don't have anything to envy in the igbos yet u joined the fulani north to go to war to keep the same igbos in nigeria. All these ur long epistle u wrote here could have made sense if u people have remained neutral in that war but we know that u guys and the north are almost the same people who depends on the resources of the SS/SE for survival and for ur infrastructural development that's why u all came together to keep the same people u despite so much in this unworkable enclave.

gibberish!
SW depends on who?
I think you need brain surgery, what is the meaning of ss/se?what resources did SE have that SW did not have in multiple times be it natural and human resources we get it more than you lots.
you and I know the most unproductive and poverty capital of the south which is SE.
Again there is not something like ss/se ,what we have is SW SE SS identity your own you this parasitic greedy lots.

Beejayy20:

gibberish!
SW depends on who?
I think you need brain surgery, what is the meaning of ss/se?what resources did SE have that SW did not have in multiple times be it natural and human resources we get it more than you lots.
you and I know the most unproductive and poverty capital of the south which is SE.
Again there is not something like ss/se ,what we have is SW SE SS identity your own you this parasitic greedy lots.

Rubbish which resources does the sw have? Keep deceiving urselves, the so called ss that's not even recognized in geography is over %50 occupied by the igbos argue all u want but that's the bitter truth and these igbo speaking communities are richly blessed with huge oil and gas deposits.

JOemmy:



Rubbish which resources does the sw have? Keep deceiving urselves, the so called ss that's not even recognized in geography is over %50 occupied by the igbos argue all u want but that's the bitter truth and these igbo speaking communities are richly blessed with huge oil and gas deposits.

trash as usual!
you're the one deceiving yourself after SS we have the highest resources know this and know peace
which useless ibo community have oyel?
is it ikwerre that have deal with you in and out? if they born you people well carry biafra flag to anywhere in SS especially rivers state or declare sit at home there.
you greedy lots know without SS resources you're nothing that why you're trying all your best to attache by force.

LLiKYekoba:


The guy is oozing super Igbo testosterone. I sure you be fagg0t maggot na why you dey think like that.
Show that Okoro picture to your yoruba wife or sister and see if she won't get wet automatically in her panties.

You do realize that not all women are attracted to abs or muscles right? My aunt called the wedding to her fiance off because he was becoming a fitness freak, she loves fat men with big tummies

Flamemignon1:

You do realize that not all women are attracted to abs or muscles right? My aunt called the wedding to her fiance off because he was becoming a fitness freak, she loves fat men with big tummies

How pretty is that your aunty? Maybe she was afraid the fit guy was attracting other girls like bees to honey.

hammer567:
WHEN YOU START DOING CALCULATION AND THE RESULT OR THE OUTCOME IS THE SAME.


THEN YOU KNOW IT IS DESTINY.



DO THE CALCULATION YOURSELF, CAN TINUBU CONTROL A MAJOR CONFLICT THAT HAS BEEN BREWING NATIONWIDE, ESPECIALLY IN THE SE AND SS?




IS IT OSINBANJO THAT WILL BE ABLE TO CONTROL SUCH CONFLICT?



BUHARI HAS BARELY SURVIVED AND IS LEAVING BEHIND A MOUNTAIN OF PROBLEMS.



IN 2015, NIGERIA DID NOT HAVE ARMED GROUPS IN EVERY REGION, TODAY(2023) WE DO.

There's no conflict brewing in the SS, stop roping the SS in on your delusional rants. The SS would chart her political course.

Militants have largely used the threat of blowing up pipelines to achieve politicians aims, Akpabio personal went to the creeks to resolve issues when such threats were raised recently.

The politics of emotions can only lead to doom, the SS would never follow you there, spewing vileness on SM in a multi ethnic/multi religious country when you folks are the highest immigrants in the country. I don't know what you guys are thinking.

Someone said politicians are the major cause of the dissatisfaction in the SE and it's true. Because of the failure of local leadership, everybody in the SE is distracted by national politics, politics is local. It goes without saying, if you want to be a major player on the national stage, you have to play NATIONAL politics, not the politics of hate, sensationalism, and anger.

The mindset of an average S. easterner needs to radically change for the better all this hate will not do anybody any good.

my understanding of the mindset of these SM vile producers is that they are acutely isolated, some of them must have never left the SE. So they fear what they don't know.

Everybody needs each other, stop the hate.

NapoleonHill:


I'm actually sorry you because you seem to know everything already and your thread wouldn't be necessary at all. You cannot determine for others what their reasons or otherwise should be to vote or not vote for an Igbo man. The beauty of democracy is that I don't owe you an explanation and people will make their choices as you continue to be an onlooker.

Lol.

It beats me how you can say all this nonsense with a straight face.

I hope you're enjoying your Nigeria the way it is with steady power supply, low crime rates, World class infrastructure and health sector, etc.

Beauty of democracy my foot.

Democracy without any visible sign of progress. All the gains that have been made since 1999 you airheads reversed it in the name of spiting Igbos now who's suffering?

Oga there's a few sane people that have contributed meaningfully to the thread as to reasons why it may be so and I acknowledged such.

You can make your decisions and choices as you said, but if its stupid and incoherent, I also reserve the right to tell you that it is.

This will be my last reply to you if you like cry blood.

So this thread has made it clear that issues of 1966 are still kind of unresolved and is a major reason why northerners may not want an Igbo man at the helm of affairs in the country. This means that the nation has actually not healed and those cracks can easily be reopened by a clannish president such as the one currently in power.

The matter of Igbos not being politically astute or being unlucky with their political calculations is also another good point. Although it can be argued that for all the political sagacity of the North and West, Nigerians have only become worse off and the country was recently named the poverty capital of the world. Also, I'm not sure of the political calculations that the South South did before GEJ was voted as president. But yea, the point is still relevant.

Every other issue that has been raised about how Igbos are proud and insult their hosts and the load of other trifles are not good enough reasons for not wanting to vote an Igbo man for president. The simple reason they aren't cogent enough is cos other tribes are as well guilty of anything you accuse Igbos of in this regard and have had their people voted by Igbos. We've had violence perpetrated against us several times in the past by mobs in the North but it didn't stop us from voting northerners. We've also faced insults and all sort of stereotyping by the westerners but it didn't stop us from voting Obasanjo in the past.

I think I've learnt a few things on this thread and I thank everyone who has contributed meaningfully. The rest of your ethnic bigots can go fûck yourselves.

Finally, the moderators on this section have been very disappointing. People hurling insults at other tribes (on both sides) and there's been no attempt to ban them or remove those posts. I guess it is what it is.

Cheers everyone.

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lebuhsi:


There's no conflict brewing in the SS, stop roping the SS in on your delusional rants. The SS would chart her political course.

Militants have largely used the threat of blowing up pipelines to achieve politicians aims, Akpabio personal went to the creeks to resolve issues when such threats were raised recently.

The politics of emotions can only lead to doom, the SS would never follow you there, spewing vileness on SM in a multi ethnic/multi religious country when you folks are the highest immigrants in the country. I don't know what you guys are thinking.

Someone said politicians are the major cause of the dissatisfaction in the SE and it's true. Because of the failure of local leadership, everybody in the SE is distracted by national politics, politics is local. It goes without saying, if you want to be a major player on the national stage, you have to play NATIONAL politics, not the politics of hate, sensationalism, and anger.

The mindset of an average S. easterner needs to radically change for the better all this hate will not do anybody any good.

my understanding of the mindset of these SM vile producers is that they are acutely isolated, some of them must have never left the SE. So they fear what they don't know.

Everybody needs each other, stop the hate.

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SHARAP!

Envy, hatred and jealousy

They know that the Igbos are far more intelligent, more industrious, more achieving

Igbo presidency will have to reverse their age-long action of 'keeping the Igbos down at all cost'

But they fail to see the opportunity in allowing the Igboman to lead Nigeria to their God's given greatness for the good of all..

Nomatter how bad Nigeria gets to, Igboman would definitely succeed better than any other tribe in Nigeria.


Shame!!!