safarigirl:


Yet, the only thing people on this thread know how to do, is, attack each other over players.

Na just suggestion we dey do, no be say anybody go even follow the suggestion, but e be like some people no too know that one

Yes oo Na true you talk

Sacking rohr was unnecessary, now that deed has been done, one thing we should know as super eagles fan is that we should allow our coaches continue when they are getting result, forget about the style of play, I wish we can allow Eguavoen continue, his style of play is also good, we can never have a perfect coach or perfect squad never!!..just as we wanted Rohr to be perfect on all ramifications...we saw sweet and sour football under Rohr, let get ready to watch same under Eguavoen or any other new coach we wanna employ

Odunayaw:
Stop pulling out things from your armpit! Pressing with the ball ke

Well, you are correct the 'pressing' I meant is the street meaning of pressing (possession football) in Nigeria which is inappropriate

Maybe, it would had been better if we had drawn or lost our final group game in order to humble ourselves ahead of the quarter final game. Our 100% group stage record totally initiated an arrogant attitude at the SE and made us pompous. We underrated/undervalued the Tunisians and believe that, we had won prior to the on set of the match. I just hope that, this loss can be beneficial in our next WCQ considering that our players want to redeem their-self. As for our coaches, please never underestimate the power of a balanced midfield. The midfield is the fulcrum, foundation of a team and if the midfield is imbalanced, your team could easily crumble. As for iheanacho, you have to improve other aspect of your game. I.e First touch, awareness, stamina etc if your only attribute is “finishing” and “creating chances”, you’re supposed to be played as a 9 or be dropped.

Barryseal:

After watching Burkina Faso vs Gabon, you saw the 2 goalkeepers and somehow you think Okoye is not as bad as people make him out to be?

Yes. I've watched him for his club side and he's not as bad as some make him out to be.

safarigirl:


Sadly, there is no home and away for KO stages, so, allow Eguaveon redeem himself in another game rather than say "Rohr can never lose..."

You know same way that there was no home and away for Rohr in AFCON 2019 but he came out with something

12large1:
Maybe, it would had been better if we had drawn or lost our final group game in order to humble ourselves ahead of the quarter final game. Our 100% group stage record totally initiated an arrogant attitude at the SE and made us pompous. We underrated/undervalued the Tunisians and believe that, we had won prior to the on set of the match.

That was the logic that helped us in 2019...loose to Madagascar and shock Cameroon

The same players we laugh at because they are plying their trade in the middle East have knocked us out again.

safarigirl:


I say, I no fit follow man wey be football fan, you no hear say domestic violence increases whenever England loses games? I am sure the same thing happens in Nigeria, we no just get how to check statistics.


Football fans can be very violent, perhaps more than any other group of sports fans. Na to find who like basketball, I have found that group of fans to be more level-headed

I like football much so National football. My passion for club football passed away after Sir Ferguson left Man U.

Fortunately for me, because I mostly watch NT football, the two women in my life (mum & sis) watch with me and any loss stings us together. An example is the final of 2008 Olympics. I cried like a baby and they were consoling me sef

But at the same time, some women will come and be asking "stupid" questions during that pain of the loss and na where madness de happen. For example after Mahrez happened at Afcon 2019, one started off with "shey we don't have them Okocha to dribble them and score ni". Normal day without high emotions, we would all laugh but that night I was disgusted to my bones.

I believe in temperance. I practice it but it's as if women just don't know how to react after a loss. An emotional person wants sympathy first and rarely gets it so they get vawulent.

But I no fit watch basketball o. I'm 6'3, so I play for fun. The sound of their sneakers on the court irritates my ears so much.

minfelix:
Sacking rohr was unnecessary, now that deed has been done, one thing we should know as super eagles fan is that we should allow our coaches continue when they are getting result, forget about the style of play, I wish we can allow Eguavoen continue, his style of play is also good, we can never have a perfect coach or perfect squad never!!..just as we wanted Rohr to be perfect on all ramifications...we saw sweet and sour football under Rohr, let get ready to watch same under Eguavoen or any other new coach we wanna employ

What matters is result, Rohr met us when we were ranked 16th in Africa and left us at 4th that means we were gradually and consistently moving forward. The main target is result not fancy game. They have brought us back to the time of Siasia, Eguaveon and Oliseh

zuchyblink:
Well, you are correct the 'pressing' I meant is the street meaning of pressing (possession football) in Nigeria which is inappropriate

thumbs up

minfelix:

You know same way that there was no home and away for Rohr in AFCON 2019 but he came out with something

We have played worse games and come out with something

It is not like we even faced quality teams before we jam Algeria in that AFCON, and once again, Rohr was fired because of a drop in performance. A drop in performance, means we were not even playing as good as we were playing in that AFCON

I honestly don't know how some of you look at your teams, but I do not think of a coach we do not have anymore, and say "He could have done better", because I know that retrospectively, people tend to look better than what they really were. The Rohr of 2019, is better than the Rohr of 2021. We all saw it, everyone saw it, we all noticed the difference in play. That things did not work out does not suddenly make Rohr any better.

Rohr was rightly fired when he was, and this loss to Tunisia will not have me thinking otherwise.

minfelix:
Sacking rohr was unnecessary, now that deed has been done, one thing we should know as super eagles fan is that we should allow our coaches continue when they are getting result, forget about the style of play, I wish we can allow Eguavoen continue, his style of play is also good, we can never have a perfect coach or perfect squad never!!..just as we wanted Rohr to be perfect on all ramifications...we saw sweet and sour football under Rohr, let get ready to watch same under Eguavoen or any other new coach we wanna employ

Your preaching is not accepted. In fact you're shooting yourself.
NFF have expectations, fans have expectations of the football they want to see.

We want good football and we can never have a perfect coach or perfect squad as you rightly said. We're sticking to who we choose; good football.

Thank you

Which “ill-fated”? Do you understand the meaning of ill-fated? Ghana beat South Africa in a free and well officiated match.

Nigeria couldn’t defeat Tunisia,with 12 covid infections. Even their coach had Covid

safarigirl:


I just learnt he was the same guy that officiated that ill-fated Ghana vs. SA match where Ghana got shady calls that favoured them

Makes sense

drDoom3:
There was something Eguavoen said in the post-match interview that made me realise that he is a good coach, but not an excellent one.

He said that you cannot change your playing style in the middle of a tournament.

Every excellent coach changes their playing style IN THE MIDDLE OF GAMES THEY ARE NOT PERFORMING IN, let alone in the middle of a month-long tournament.

Football is like chess. I am participating in a chess tournament. I have a specific opening sequence I used to win my first three games. In my fourth game, my opponent who is higher ranked plays a move right off the bat that shows he knows what my opening sequence is and he is ready to counter it. What do I do? If I continue with my sequence, I will be at a disadvantage because my opponent knows what I will play and is prepared. Every good chess player will IMMEDIATELY improvise.

From the first ten minutes, it was clear these Tunisians knew exactly what we planned to do and they were ready for it. A simple move Eguavoen could have made could have been to tell Chuks and Simon to switch wings. Very simple move and it could have messed up the Tunisians gameplan because the 3 guys marking Simon would immediately be confused and have to switch responsibilities to other guys unprepared for it.

I mean, I thought the same, why not ask them to switch wings?
We could all see that Simon was being caged
We're not even talking subs now, just in game management
Do that for 10 mins, see how it goes, etc
Eguavoen goofed in that respect

Odunayaw:
I like football much so National football. My passion for club football passed away after Sir Ferguson left Man U.

Fortunately for me, because I mostly watch NT football, the two women in my life (mum & sis) watch with me and any loss stings us together. An example is the final of 2008 Olympics. I cried like a baby and they were consoling me sef

But at the same time, some women will come and be asking "stupid" questions during that pain of the loss and na where madness de happen. For example after Mahrez happened at Afcon 2019, one started off with "shey we don't have them Okocha to dribble them and score ni". Normal day without high emotions, we would all laugh but that night I was disgusted to my bones.

I believe in temperance. I practice it but it's as if women just don't know how to react after a loss. An emotional person wants sympathy first and rarely gets it so they get vawulent.

But I no fit watch basketball o. I'm 6'3, so I play for fun. The sound of their sneakers on the court irritates my ears so much.

That's the thing though, emotional intelligence should teach people not to lash out irrespective of the hurt they feel.

The person talking does not know better, na why I just dey cruise most of yesterday, E get some people wey I tell them to cool down, because I could feel their anger in their write-up.

Truly, anger is an ugly emotion and I know that all too well. It even leaves a bitter taste in the mouth of those experiencing it. There are some things I say to people out of anger and I regret them later and wish I never said them, especially on this internet, but to hit somebody?

Na why I no fit follow avid football fans, or gamblers. Na small thing dey off their brain

PetroDolla2020:
Which “ill-fated”? Do you understand the meaning of ill-fated? Ghana beat South Africa in a free and well officiated match.

Nigeria couldn’t defeat Tunisia,with 12 covid infections. Even their coach had Covid

come back when you can win a match

PetroDolla2020:
Which “ill-fated”? Do you understand the meaning of ill-fated? Ghana beat South Africa in a free and well officiated match.

Nigeria couldn’t defeat Tunisia,with 12 covid infections. Even their coach had Covid

South Africans do not think so

Ill-fated

When Ighalo made his error it was Nigeria vs Ighalo, when Mahrez scored a top class goal against Akpeyi even though he kept us in the game it was Nigeria vs Akpeyi. Sadiq Umar struggled and even though we won it was Nigeria vs Sadiq. So why is it that now that we see something way worse we are making excuses The boy made a monumental mistake and that's that.

The hypocrisy that this moment is bringing up is alarming. If that goal was scored in street football u would be angry at the goalkeeper.

zuchyblink:
What matters is result, Rohr met us when we were ranked 16th in Africa and left us at 4th that means we were gradually and consistently moving forward. The main target is result not fancy game. They have brought us back to the time of Siasia, Eguaveon and Oliseh

Thats it bro....wetit concern Mourinho and beautiful football..."oga play rubbish and give me trophy....Di matteo use defensive football carry champion league ...but anyways let still support any coach coming in especially the one giving us what we want

PetroDolla2020:
Which “ill-fated”? Do you understand the meaning of ill-fated? Ghana beat South Africa in a free and well officiated match.

Nigeria couldn’t defeat Tunisia,with 12 covid infections. Even their coach had Covid

Ighalo or Gyan who do u think is the better penalty taker

Are you South African? And who gives a fvck what South Africans think? Fuckeduppedness

safarigirl:


South Africans do not think so

Ill-fated

BascoVanVeli:
When Ighalo made his error it was Nigeria vs Ighalo, when Mahrez scored a top class goal against Akpeyi even though he kept us in the game it was Nigeria vs Akpeyi. Sadiq Umar struggled and even though we won it was Nigeria vs Sadiq. So why is it that now that we see something way worse we are making excuses The boy made a monumental mistake and that's that.

The hypocrisy that this moment is bringing up is alarming. If that goal was scored in street football u would be angry at the goalkeeper.

First tell us who isn't giving the blame to Okoye

JohnBullMySon:
Eguavoen's tactics is more of like "Go into the pitch and do thy best, play this position. If you tire or underperform, I'll change you".

Rohr had a tactics, one that we grew tired of. But I don't think we can move forward with Eguavoen, honestly. Players need to be told what to do at times. Freedom can be detrimental. Let's see what Peseiro brings to the table. And hopefully it will be alright.

No, not at all.
It was more like, use your skill and initiative to execute instructions and tasks given.

The players did play according to instructions.

Odunayaw:
Your preaching is not accepted. In fact you're shooting yourself.
NFF have expectations, fans have expectations of the football they want to see.

We want good football and we can never have a perfect coach or perfect squad as you rightly said. We're sticking to who we choose; good football.

Thank you

Brother, remove your mindset and target view from 1994 eagles set...
Anyways we are different people in Nigeria Sha, I belong to the "we want trophy regardless of what we play football"

andrewbaba44:

Omo see saves wey gabon GK Dey make now

Okoye in goal for Gabon would have conceeded at least 5 times. Am I lying?

12large1:
Maybe, it would had been better if we had drawn or lost our final group game in order to humble ourselves ahead of the quarter final game. Our 100% group stage record totally initiated an arrogant attitude at the SE and made us pompous. We underrated/undervalued the Tunisians and believe that, we had won prior to the on set of the match. I just hope that, this loss can be beneficial in our next WCQ considering that our players want to redeem their-self. As for our coaches, please never underestimate the power of a balanced midfield. The midfield is the fulcrum, foundation of a team and if the midfield is imbalanced, your team could easily crumble. As for iheanacho, you have to improve other aspect of your game. I.e First touch, awareness, stamina etc if your only attribute is “finishing” and “creating chances”, you’re supposed to be played as a 9 or be dropped.

SE were not arrogant and pompous..

SE played against Tunisia with inferiority complex and that's what affected the S.E.

safarigirl:
I do not blame the players at all

I blame Femi Otedola and his $250,000 promise


I blame Godwin Emefiele that flew down to Cameroon to announce that gift

I blame Badluck Buhari the most for sending that rubbish video that nobody asked for

Whose silly idea was it for that man to send a video? You no go wait till una reach semis at least, before you begin dey send goodwill video?

I blame Pinnick too.

Luck was not on our side, and it makes sense when you are surrounded by Badluck merchants

Luck comes to those who are prepared to work for it.

Our Midfield was dead and lacked vision, invention and the tactical astuteness to change and adapt with the game. We had a one size fits all strategy and mentality. If it's not working try something else, but Eguavon sat there with no plan to mitigate against the Tunisians.

I prefer measured calculation with caution with a strategy to ensure victory. But I got emotive and sentimental and very foolishly began to believe our own hype. Imagine predicting a 4-1 victory.

Within 5 minutes l could see we had no cohesion, no composure and worst of all NO PLAN. But the most important component of that was missing no drive, no urgency no belief.

At this stage the handicaps of "poor end product" began to show itself. You can get away with some by things but these tournaments are not a sprint but a marathon, better a slow build up than run on out of steam well before the finish line.

I have been the bane of many claims of bias , he hates our , Nigerian born players ,bla bla and so on. Because I will not join so many in enthroning mediocrity and going OTT with our players in most cases limited attributes.

Harsh facts , we don't want to face, none of our players are World class, that's a fact need to stop the OTT hype.

Ndidi is very good DM but he is limited in his passing range, long range shooting and in his ability to turn from defence to attack. And he is arguably our best player. There is a reason why there is not much transfer speculation around him.

Ekong and Omeruo at first opportunity were launching the ball foreward with no direction, Why

Eguavon did no home work to change the set up against a team that we all knew would park the bus.

The Tunisians neutralised the threat of Awoniyi he tried but he is a poor mans Drogba, very predictable and easy to defend against. I actually would have preferred Olayinka you need trickery and he has some.

Aina made some mistakes but his end product coming forward was very good. The goal was a routine save it wasn't a bullet strike, but somehow a 6"5' goalkeeper could not get it. In my opinion he hit lethargic and lost concentration because the game lacked any sense of urgency from our part.

Nonetheless, we had chances to score but we lacked quality end product. Iwobi would have been the game changer, but he committed a terrible foul. Which emanated from the failure of the refereee to give the ball back to us when he inadvertently changed the trajectory of the ball. In this regard poor refereeing decision. But we needed to keep our heads and not lose it. Ndidi and Omeruo could easily have yellow carded.

In summary we lost the match with a dead Midfield.

It's should have been Onyeka, Iwobi and Ndidi.

Chukwueze was poor and Simon thought he was Messi and they both did not play a team game. KC in midfield did not work his work rate and backtracking is not the best.

Funnily in his limited capacity Sadiq put on determined display. But that's all it was , he had a chance to score it was not a difficult chance it's basic angled ball and he messed it up.

In my opinion Awoniyi and Sadiq are nowhere near Ighalo, harsh reality no hype.

Mujtahida:

You blow the sand in our faces, the wind blows it back at you. It's football for me, external to my life. But the failure you consistently project is your personality. Every time Nigeria loses and you laugh and you mock, all I see is a man who has surrendered to his own failure. No begin foam for mouth now ooo.

There are some people in this life who hate success especially when they are not doing well in their personal endeavour. He hate to behold the sight of celebration because it will make him feel bad about his own miserable life. Your action is a reflection of your mindset., and People talks, acts based on their mindset. Darkelf may be going through alot behind the scene or may have been brutalized by the hardship of life which has rendered him to a state of "nothing good can ever happen" again. He constantly desire a dose of negativity around him to make him feel good about himself again. He simply hate light and can not stand it because he is in darkness and want to drag everyone to dine with him in such state. He enjoy the sadness, negativity, and sorrow because he need his to survive in the same way humans need air to survived. Celebration and good life irritate him hence, he need the sorrow to survived. it is people like him that rejoice in the failure of their friends and family member.... his schema is based on : make all of us dey suffer dey go mentality.

BascoVanVeli:
When Ighalo made his error it was Nigeria vs Ighalo, when Mahrez scored a top class goal against Akpeyi even though he kept us in the game it was Nigeria vs Akpeyi. Sadiq Umar struggled and even though we won it was Nigeria vs Sadiq. So why is it that now that we see something way worse we are making excuses The boy made a monumental mistake and that's that.

The hypocrisy that this moment is bringing up is alarming. If that goal was scored in street football u would be angry at the goalkeeper.

It has never really been Nigeria vs. Anybody

No matter what happens, there will always be people who support a player, even if na only 5 people.

Even Akpeyi had his supporters on that day, Sadiq has had his supporters, Ighalo too

Everybody is a hypocrite. Everybody can never vilify the same player. I did not even think Akpeyi deserved all the trolling he got from that Algerian game, it was why I did not participate in it. Till today, when people bring it up, I still cannot see why Akpeyi will be seen as so bad. I still do not believe Akpeyi is as bad as he is made out to be, I do not believe he should never man our post, because I recall he had some good saves in that tournament

I call it the Mahrez Freekick for a reason, because I no dey see am as Akpeyi error. It was just a good Freekick, and that is perhaps, why I no dey like vilify players when we lose.

Barryseal:

Okoye in goal for Gabon would have conceeded at least 5 times. Am I lying?

Yes you are

safarigirl:


We have played worse games and come out with something

It is not like we even faced quality teams before we jam Algeria in that AFCON, and once again, Rohr was fired because of a drop in performance. A drop in performance, means we were not even playing as good as we were playing in that AFCON

I honestly don't know how some of you look at your teams, but I do not think of a coach we do not have anymore, and say "He could have done better", because I know that retrospectively, people tend to look better than what they really were. The Rohr of 2019, is better than the Rohr of 2021. We all saw it, everyone saw it, we all noticed the difference in play. That things did not work out does not suddenly make Rohr any better.

Rohr was rightly fired when he was, and this loss to Tunisia will not have me thinking otherwise.

Cameroon was a quality team we met before we played Algeria... Algeria won us with an individual brilliance football, not like there was a onet-two play or a shot that led to goals against us.
Rohrbof 2019 is better than Rohr of 2021, but the fact remains he is still the Rohr we employed, meaning he lost something somewhere that could still be found and make him the Rohr we employed... anyways that brings to fact that we can't get a perfect coach.....even if we get herve Renard, I'm sure his first "as usual first time new coach"impression will becloud our reasoning and when he stays 2/3yrs his flaws will begin to reveal