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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 11:07am On Jan 24, 2022
Joezinho:


Take it or leave it; Eguavoen got outcoached..

The 442 is outdated and 442 not only isolates our wing forwards leaving them to dribble into culdesacs, but we lack in the middle both on the defensive and creative sides...

We entered the tournament as underdogs so our group opponents had no idea was brand of football we would play. After the surprise factor was gone and the spotlight pointed at us, then it became a different story..



Thank you,

and instead of the dribbling inwards, from the approaching of the 18yard box, they will rather stay on the flanks till they got there, then attempted to dribble in, Plus they were bereaved of ideas,


A Vicmo would had use those 3 to 4 players marking his, to draw fouls upon fouls, and it would had been them getting red, not us


Btw it is well, it had come and go, we hope for the best moving forward

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 11:14am On Jan 24, 2022
forgiveness:



Apart from saying there was no gap, I agree with the other point you made.

read my comment properly... I agreed there was a gap...

you said it as if the midfield was permanently exposed..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 11:16am On Jan 24, 2022
do4luv14:



I disagree with you, why was the center open

how did their scorer saw space to unleash that screamer, even at that, why not do something to close that space on-time

read my comment below.

codemaniacs:


The midfield wasn't exposed...

SE were defensive .

The reason for the Gap is due to Ihenacho and Chuks not tracking back quickly anytime SE lost the ball.

Aina was made to attack and defend that wing due nacho and Chuks lack of pressing and tracking back so anytime Aina lost possession there was a gap because his the one that will also try to defend it..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:17am On Jan 24, 2022
Barryseal:

Okoye in goal for Gabon would have conceeded at least 5 times. Am I lying?

At least 3
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 11:18am On Jan 24, 2022
do4luv14:




Thank you,

and instead of the dribbling inwards, from the approaching of the 18yard box, they will rather stay on the flanks till they got there, then attempted to dribble in, Plus they were bereaved of ideas,


A Vicmo would had use those 3 to 4 players marking his, to draw fouls upon fouls, and it would had been them getting red, not us


Btw it is well, it had come and go, we hope for the best moving forward

the referee wasn't blowing for our fouls... so if Vicmo was here he will have just been frustrated by the referee because Vicmo is falls alot..

Even Omeruo was shouting at the referee...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 11:22am On Jan 24, 2022
codemaniacs:


the referee wasn't blowing for our fouls... so if Vicmo was here he will have just been frustrated by the referee because Vicmo is falls alot..

Even Omeruo was shouting at the referee...


Then you don't Know Vicmo


did you watch our SE games from 94,to 98 World Cup.

if the referee favours the opposition, does that mean, you will give up,

if he no blow for you, then talk the whistle to am, by playing your game, and playing it ruggly
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lbrichman2: 11:23am On Jan 24, 2022
codemaniacs:


Eguavoen wasn't outcoached..

SE was playing with inferiority complex which made them not to press and close down players and switch to a defensive pattern..

Eguavoen's mistake is not playing Tunisia with the same urgency , pressing and closing down the SE played in the group stages.


.
True that,
I was wondering why we weren't pressing
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 11:25am On Jan 24, 2022
codemaniacs:

read my comment below.

Na today we dey play defensively
even Rohr with his defensively games, does not play like this,
so no excuse here,
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 11:27am On Jan 24, 2022
Joezinho:


Take it or leave it; Eguavoen got outcoached..

The 442 is outdated and 442 not only isolates our wing forwards leaving them to dribble into culdesacs, but we lack in the middle both on the defensive and creative sides...

We entered the tournament as underdogs so our group opponents had no idea was brand of football we would play. After the surprise factor was gone and the spotlight pointed at us, then it became a different story..

Eguavoen wasn't outcoached take it or leave it...

In the first 10 mins of the 1st half the Tunisians were defensive and playing with inferiority complex but they noticed we were also defensive and playing with inferiority complex just like them so they capitalized on it..

Plus the referee was not giving SE free-kicks and fouls.. SE should have had a penalty in the 1st half..

there was never any "surprise factor"...

In the group stages, SE played attacking football and off the ball they played pressing football..

Against Tunisia, SE played defensive and inferiority complex football and a totally different game from what they played in the group stages...

the loss was caused by goalkeeping mistake and not playing the football they played in the group stages..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by superbloke(m): 11:29am On Jan 24, 2022
When we look at everything honestly, our biggest problem in this tournament was not taking our chances. We had the problem in each of our games. What helped us was that our defense did really well in the group stages. The only times we had defensive lapses, we were punished. Unfortunately, one of them came in the knockout stages.

Most of what people are saying now is because we lost. If we had taken out chance and won, the story would have been "even with a man down, we still played them and won". Na so football be. But now, some are saying Rohr would have not lost, forgetting that we were already on a downward trajectory, even losing to CAR at home.

We weren't supposed to have played well. We weren't even considered favourites until we started the tournament. All this anger is understandable sha. It is emotional and understandable. In my opinion, we should let Eguavoen continue if he's willing to. There's a lesson every coach learns and I hope this one is his.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:35am On Jan 24, 2022
andrewbaba44:


I know you are talking about ighalo

But this thread doesn’t decide anything but the coaching crew ,and ighalo was called for the afcon

I don’t know the other experience players that’s being disrespected apart from ighalo
actually we do. We act like they are some zlatan that should retire, or that they are selfish and should give way for the younger ones. I wonder how this logic makes sense one bit. Its not just about Ighalo. Its also about VicMo too. Knowing what an experienced player can do in several circumstances is way better than sitting duck and waiting for luck from an inexperienced young talented player. Especially one that feels only what the coach says should be final as regard positioning and shooting. I won't be surprised if i see at least one of the two of them recalled for Ghana tie. Not that i want them fully back, but that disrespect should just stop.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:47am On Jan 24, 2022
We may just have to bury nostalgia and change style of play for good. This usual pass ball from left to right till we see an opening bores me sincerely. With the defenders having more of the ball than even the middle. We look for openings not cracking down. We need to specialize in this crackdowns with sleek passing.


I expected Coachito to just study the Gambia game and use it or tweak it to be better. Especially making them not know the obvious approach. Big undoing mehn. Big one.



And i don't regret the Rohr sack. Its only Normal some do this nonsense Rohr thing cos a failure came up.


Those it pained weeped and that shows passion and believe. The tactic let them down.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 11:52am On Jan 24, 2022
superbloke:
When we look at everything honestly, our biggest problem in this tournament was not taking our chances. We had the problem in each of our games. What helped us was that our defense did really well in the group stages. The only times we had defensive lapses, we were punished. Unfortunately, one of them came in the knockout stages.

Most of what people are saying now is because we lost. If we had taken out chance and won, the story would have been "even with a man down, we still played them and won". Na so football be. But now, some are saying Rohr would have not lost, forgetting that we were already on a downward trajectory, even losing to CAR at home.

We weren't supposed to have played well. We weren't even considered favourites until we started the tournament. All this anger is understandable sha. It is emotional and understandable. In my opinion, we should let Eguavoen continue if he's willing to. There's a lesson every coach learns and I hope this one is his.

Eguavoen should only continue if his never going to play the "inferiority complex" football we saw.... That's why people are angry...

he must also start with a midfield of Aribo, Onyeka and Ndidi in every starting eleven with Iwobi, Nwakali and Bonke as replacements.

then Ejuke should replace Chuks in the starting eleven then Onyekuru, Olayinka, Ebuehi, Aina should be ahead of Chuks on the bench..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero47: 11:55am On Jan 24, 2022
Everton are looking to appoint Victor Pereira, a man interviewed by Pinnick for the SE job

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 11:58am On Jan 24, 2022
Seeing pictures of our players crying, it hurts I guess. Moses and Aina, you'll be back next year for the cup.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:09pm On Jan 24, 2022
drDoom3:


It was glaring Eguavoen fell for the trap of big-name players rather than who can get the job done. Else why did Chuks start so many games?

I disagree ,

Probably the lowest ranked player in the squad is Nwakali, playing for Huesca in the Segunda Division.

He selected him over and above proven and tested EPL players in the midfield like Iwobi and Onyeka.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel10: 12:10pm On Jan 24, 2022
In conclusion, Eguavoen is a piss-poor coach who had nothing but the element of surprise and the Egyptian coach's incompetence to thank for his fluke win over Egypt.

I have always been shouting since the Sudan game that all it would take is a half-decent tactician to knock Eguavoen out cold.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:12pm On Jan 24, 2022
drDoom3:


Oga even with Ighalo and Moses nothing would have happened in that game... We didn't lose the game for a dearth of talent or experience. We lost because players got lazy (probably because of Rohr syndrome where everybody knows who is gonna play) and poor coaching anticipation and flexibility.

Las las Musa wey get experience pass everybody you see him contribution for the game?

Awoniyi is better than Sadiq but none of them are better than Ighalo, Victor and or Dennis.

If any of these players were playing it would have been different.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 12:16pm On Jan 24, 2022
jihday:
do you think we should stick with him or we should go ahead with Mr Paseiro

Eguavoen very good manager, but poor tactician.

His use of Onyeka and Sadiq Umar might have cost us this championship.

Being indigenous is a good thing, but quality is very necessary. When the new manager bounce is over, all his deficiencies will be laid to bare.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 12:16pm On Jan 24, 2022
Curtisaxel10:
In conclusion, Eguavoen is a piss-poor coach who had nothing but the element of surprise and the Egyptian coach's incompetence to thank for his fluke win over Egypt.

I have always been shouting since the Sudan game that all it would take is a half-decent tactician to knock Eguavoen out cold.

So bro who do u suggest..make una no just dey point out problem..let's include solutions too going forward in our post cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:18pm On Jan 24, 2022
I see a lot of statements flying around in the name of criticisms and I will highlight how off point they are.

We were defensive
We attacked from the blast of the whistle until the end. So how can you say we were defensive.

The coach should have not started the same team.
How do you expect the coach to drop one of the best selections of the group stage. Please, you do not change a winning team.

The Tunisians studied our game and we were to make changes.
We troubled them from the start. With Simon Moses running the flanks and drawing players, we had space in the center to attack.

The coach did not change tactics.
Haba. What did the coach do when he took off Iheanacho and Awoniyi, and brought in Olayinka and Iwobi.

We needed Ighalo.
This is the funniest. This happens when the person is not watching the dynamics on the field. The Tunisians were sound in keeping possession and it was difficult for us to fight for the ball with Iheanacho and Awoniyi. Despite them being fairly fast, they could not meet up. So the coach brought in players to offer much pace to fight for the ball.

So you are suggesting the coach should have played Ighalo who works less than these guys. By the way, Ighalo can not give us the kind of work and play Sadiq gave us. So how can you suggest Ighalo.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel10: 12:18pm On Jan 24, 2022
Chukwueze is another total scam who had no right to start this game. Dude obviously forgot his brains in Spain before coming. Can't beat his marker to save his life. Yesterday that Tunisia double-marked him, the masquerade was sure to be exposed.

Ahmed Musa would have provided much more starting at RM. At least he could have used his speed to press defenders if nothing else. Chukwueze was blank and bland. But because Chuks started in the win against Egypt, Mr. Austin Rohrguavoen the one-directional dinosaur decided to start him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:19pm On Jan 24, 2022
Curtisaxel10:
In conclusion, Eguavoen is a piss-poor coach who had nothing but the element of surprise and the Egyptian coach's incompetence to thank for his fluke win over Egypt.

I have always been shouting since the Sudan game that all it would take is a half-decent tactician to knock Eguavoen out cold.

Story. We created more chances than the Tunisians. We were the better side. I guess the Tunisians had the element of surprise.

They scored through a goal keeping error and helped by an unfair red card. That was not down to their tactics.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:20pm On Jan 24, 2022
Curtisaxel10:
Chukwueze is another total scam who had no right to start this game. Dude obviously forgot his brains in Spain before coming. Can't beat his marker to save his life. Yesterday that Tunisia double-marked him, the masquerade was sure to be exposed.

Ahmed Musa would have provided much more starting at RM. At least he could have used his speed to press defenders if nothing else. Chukwueze was blank and bland. But because Chuks started in the win against Egypt, Mr. Austin Rohrguavoen the one-directional dinosaur decided to start him.

Chukwueze had a fairly good game, put in a good shift and was tactically sound in his game. You are just throwing statements that are far from the game.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel10: 12:21pm On Jan 24, 2022
Semi Ajayi showed his aerial prowess and superior ball-carrying capacity which could have helped us but no, Mr. Rohrguavoen the unidirectional dinosaur was hell-bent on replicating his Egypt starting eleven.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel10: 12:22pm On Jan 24, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Chukwueze had a fairly good game, put in a good shift and was tactically sound in his game. You are just throwing statements that are far from the game.

Which good game? Somebody that was in the pockets of the Tunisians for most of the game? You call one good pass from a winger who played for over 60 minutes a good game? Tufiakwa.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:22pm On Jan 24, 2022
Curtisaxel10:
Semi Ajayi showed his aerial prowess and superior ball-carrying capacity which could have helped us but no, Mr. Rohrguavoen the unidirectional dinosaur was hell-bent on replicating his Egypt starting eleven.

Was Omeruo poor in the game? I do not think so. So why do you want the coach to drop him for Ajayi? Defensively, Omeruo had a good shift.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:23pm On Jan 24, 2022
forgiveness:



Perhaps, Denis could make a difference on the wing but the coach killed the game yesterday. He was tactically inept.

If it’s by goals, Awoniyi with 9 goals from 16 games is the most informed striker in Europe.

I know that you know and will say so , do you think if Awoniyi was in the EPL he would have scored 9 Goals ❓❓.

I don't at all.

To score in the EPL is much much harder than the Bundesliga. And in that context I rate , Dennis as the most in form striker in Nigeria in the HERE and NOW.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:23pm On Jan 24, 2022
Curtisaxel10:


Which good game? Somebody that was in the pockets of the Tunisians for most of the game? You call one good pass from a winger who played for over 60 minutes a good game? Tufiakwa.

What is pocket? If we were in the pockets, we would not create almost double the chances that the Tunisians did. You think we created those chances by being poor?

Please, we were the better side. If you want to criticise, be factual about it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:25pm On Jan 24, 2022
PurpleHouse:
Seeing pictures of our players crying, it hurts I guess. Moses and Aina, you'll be back next year for the cup.

These guys deserve more praise than the fake criticisms people are dishing. They were superb. They played with their hearts and pride. Everyone gave their best.

It is unfortunate they lost. However, they fought to the end with pride. I tire for people.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 12:26pm On Jan 24, 2022
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:27pm On Jan 24, 2022
I am so proud of these guys. All of them. They all impressed me. Sad the way it ended but they earned my respect. I hope they pick themselves up, remember this pain and give in more.

You all were amazing. From players, coaching crew and staff. Thank you all.


FLY SUPER EAGLES FLY.

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