aribisala0:
Lagos the Former Federal capital is NOT A NIGERIAN STATE

So kindly different the geographic region which is Lagos the federal capital from Lagos the state?

WATCHOVER:

This is what the OP want to hear that why he decided to be asking irrelevant questions and I decided not to answer because all did their own part, and just like the Bible where some claimed Paul was the greatest and others for Apollo

oga you are a confuse fellow bcs your so to call enemy is the master planer .the question is soooooo relevant but your views is irrelevant.

Asour:


That why we were comparing Lagos since 1999.

Wasn't it you that asked the comparison question about before 1999? I never did. You did.

I said since 1999 (even before) Lagos has (due to no magic of any) racked up several advantages that puts it ahead of virtually all Nigerian states from the word go.

Is this even debatable?

I think you have a comprehension problem.

I said Lagos State hosted the FCT .
You said Lagos State has natural success factors and my question was why that success did not manifest before 1999 so do not lie or misrepresent my words.
The simple explanation is that Lagos has had better more focussed governance since 1999 than previously

lexy2014:


So kindly different the geographic region which is Lagos the federal capital from Lagos the state?

Do your own research

Lagos City was the Former Federal Capital>even before states were created .


The rest of the State was part of the Western Region until 1967
Lagos City is not the only city that shares a name with its state
There are many others
Ondo
Oyo
Enugu
Sokoto
Kaduna
Bauchi
Kano
Katsina.

aribisala0:
I think you have a comprehension problem.

I said Lagos State hosted the FCT .
You said Lagos State has natural success factors and my question was why that success did not manifest before 1999 so do not lie or misrepresent my words.
The simple explanation is that Lagos has had better more focussed governance since 1999 than previously

There's no way to confirm your assertion.

To do so, one has to control for the economic advantages Lagos has which most states lack. And that's a tricky one.

Again what Nigerian states were better than Lagos before 1999 (safe for maybe Kano)?

aribisala0:
Do your own research

Lagos City was the Former Federal Capital>even before states were created .


The rest of the State was part of the Western Region until 1967
Lagos City is not the only city that shares a name with its state
There are many others
Ondo
Oyo
Enugu
Sokoto
Kaduna
Bauchi
Kano
Katsina.

Since u have done your research, I don't see why u can't the question:

So kindly different the geographic region which is Lagos the federal capital from Lagos the state

Asour:


There's no way to confirm your assertion.

To do so, one has to control for the economic advantages Lagos has which most states lack. And that's a tricky one.

Again what Nigerian states were better than Lagos before 1999 (safe for maybe Kano)?

Well we know that IGR in 1999 was 500 million a month
So clearly the IGR opportunities were not optimized.
Optimizing IGR has been a game changer.

You make it sound as if Economic advantages are something to be ashamed of? What is your point> Every state has advantages but they have not been optimized
From that same 1999 Delta State enjoyed advantages in terms of Derivation ditto Akwa Ibom and Rivers .What do they have to show

AKpabio and Ibibio cannot by any stretch be described as visionary
The money that the foreign governments recovered from Ibori could easily have delivered a seaport to rival Lagos

Same in Akwa Ibom where Akpabio decided a stadium was the best thing he could give his people

Tareq1105:



God bless you. He made all of them hence he's number one.

It is the other way round, they actually made Tinubu.
If as a Leader, you assemble m0r0ns, they will serve you nonsense and ruin your govt.
But if you want to succeed, you pick the best brains around.
People like Fashola, PYO, etc are the best brains around and they made Tinubu's Govt.
If not for them, Tinubu would have failed and not be who he is today

lexy2014:


Since u have done your research, I don't see why u can't the question:

So kindly different the geographic region which is Lagos the federal capital from Lagos the state

My answer is No
I am not your employee or researcher . If you really value the information invest effort in getting it. What is my business with you?

aribisala0:
My answer is No
I am not your employee or researcher . If you really value the information invest effort in getting it. What is my business with you?

Part of the effort am investigating in getting the information is asking u:

So kindly different the geographic region which is Lagos the federal capital from Lagos the state

lexy2014:


Part of the effort am investigating in getting the information is asking u:

So kindly different the geographic region which is Lagos the federal capital from Lagos the state

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seunmsg:
Tinubu is the game changer for Lagos state. He set the path that all others followed. He is the illuminator and the master planner of modern Lagos.

He moved the state internal revenue from the monthly N600million in 1999 to the over N20billion that it is today. In fact, when Tinubu re-positioned Lagos state board on internal revenue to LIRS, the Obasanjo government quickly copied the template and changed Federal board of inland revenue to FIRS.

His revenue, education, transport, health, waste management and traffic management policies have been copied by so many states all over the country and even the Federal government. That Lagos is now the 5th largest economy in Africa is to his credit.

Tinubu só ékó di bé bè

seunmsg:
Tinubu is the game changer for Lagos state. He set the path that all others followed. He is the illuminator and the master planner of modern Lagos.

He moved the state internal revenue from the monthly N600million in 1999 to the over N20billion that it is today. In fact, when Tinubu re-positioned Lagos state board on internal revenue to LIRS, the Obasanjo government quickly copied the template and changed Federal board of inland revenue to FIRS.

His revenue, education, transport, health, waste management and traffic management policies have been copied by so many states all over the country and even the Federal government. That Lagos is now the 5th largest economy in Africa is to his credit.

Kadoso, hype all you want. Sing all the praises that you can. Magnify a fellow mortal all you want. Exalt Tinubu with all your might; but take it, that it has not been given to Tinubu to be president of anywhere. The POWER that controls things have not endorsed him. If the LORD does not build a city, the watchers watch in vain.

aribisala0:




































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Still doesn't answer d simple question:

kindly different the geographic region which is Lagos the federal capital from Lagos the state

lexy2014:


Still doesn't answer d simple question:

kindly different the geographic region which is Lagos the federal capital from Lagos the state

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aribisala0:

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Are u saying that u can't answer the question after claiming that "Lagos the Former Federal capital is NOT A NIGERIAN STATE"?

kindly different the geographic region which is Lagos the federal capital from Lagos the state

tamdun:

Fashola
Tinubu
Sanwolu
Ambode
Most of the project that sanwolu is commissioning today were fashola's projects that ambode abandoned, ambode na confirm bitter soul

wow u sabi love that,most people don't know this Ambode get species mind,he want to ruin that Tinubu continuously structure,most developed countries always followed lay down structures

aribisala0:
Well we know that IGR in 1999 was 500 million a month
So clearly the IGR opportunities were not optimized.
Optimizing IGR has been a game changer.

You make it sound as if Economic advantages are something to be ashamed of? What is your point> Every state has advantages but they have not been optimized
From that same 1999 Delta State enjoyed advantages in terms of Derivation ditto Akwa Ibom and Rivers .What do they have to show

AKpabio and Ibibio cannot by any stretch be described as visionary
The money that the foreign governments recovered from Ibori could easily have delivered a seaport to rival Lagos

Same in Akwa Ibom where Akpabio decided a stadium was the best thing he could give his people

Advantages are not be ashamed of BUT they should be mentioned so that we don't get ahead of ourselves.

Again you have failed to mention states that were inherently 'better' than Lagos before 1999.

Most oil companies (well virtually all reasonably sized firms) in Nigeria have always had their HQ in Lagos. Does that count for nought?

By the way, for all their sins, Ibori & Akpabio may not be saints but do you realize that seaports are an exclusive list item in Nigeria?

Do you think I can go ahead to site a seaport as I choose without Oga FGN? I suppose not. Nigeria is a low Manufacturing country with huge imports.
Surely a state that 'ushers' in a huge % of such imports has to have better opportunities economically than other states. No?

I am not trifling what you purport the likes of Tinbus have done in Lagos, I'm just saying let's not get ahead of ourselves. There's a long way to go.

lexy2014:


Are u saying that u can't answer the question after claiming that "Lagos the Former Federal capital is NOT A NIGERIAN STATE"?

kindly different the geographic region which is Lagos the federal capital from Lagos the state

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Which of them is Tinubu in the pix?

Babatunde Raji fashola is the best ever ..performed wonderfully in all sectors... Infrastructure,roads education and health.The first governor to start fixing Federal government roads. ..ambode and this pointus sanwo olu have struggled to fit in his shoes..but they lack his will
, Supervision and wisdom..I will love to see Fashola rule Nigeria in my lifetime.

Asour:


Advantages are not be ashamed of BUT they should be mentioned so that we don't get ahead of ourselves.

Again you have failed to mention states that were inherently 'better' than Lagos before 1999.

Most oil companies (well virtually all reasonably sized firms) in Nigeria have always had their HQ in Lagos. Does that count for nought?

By the way, for all their sins, Ibori & Akpabio may not be saints but do you realize that seaports are an exclusive list item in Nigeria?

Do you think I can go ahead to site a seaport as I choose without Oga FGN? I suppose not. Nigeria is a low Manufacturing country with huge imports.
Surely a state that 'ushers' in a huge % of such imports has to have better opportunities economically than other states. No?

I am not trifling what you purport the likes of Tinbus have done in Lagos, I'm just saying let's not get ahead of ourselves. There's a long way to go.

Who is getting ahead of themselves and how? Are you wanting to practise the phrase? How does that come into anything I have said thus far?
So what if Seaports are on exclusive List What is the relevance of that ? Is there not a port almost complete in Lekki? A private venture?
Has PDP not been in control at the centre. The reality is that there has been no political will or vision to deliver that in the 16 years that PDP controlled Abuja.
Are refineries also on the exclusive list ? Did Amaechi as governor not have enough money to deliver a refinery playing those peculiar "advantages" > Advantages like gas, crude oil. What industry have any of those governors established to take advantage of their own "ADVANTAGES"?
Where is the Fishing industry? Where is the boat building industry?


The Niger Delta should even be better off than Lagos considering the huge oil prices they enjoyed under PDP

aribisala0:


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Are u saying that u can't answer the question after claiming that "Lagos the Former Federal capital is NOT A NIGERIAN STATE"?

kindly different the geographic region which is Lagos the federal capital from Lagos the state

obembet:


I think it's TINUBU, He made all of them.

Lalasticlala

Mtchewww.

What do people even mean when they say that someone made someone? Definitely, it takes people to make people.

Do you know what it takes to win any election? I mean the people, resources, time..... people made Tinubu governor...he didn't fall from the sky to become governor.

lexy2014:



Are u saying that u can't answer the question after claiming that "Lagos the Former Federal capital is NOT A NIGERIAN STATE"?

kindly different the geographic region which is Lagos the federal capital from Lagos the state

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obembet:


I think it's TINUBU, He made all of them.

Lalasticlala

See Foofoo.
She don fall for Tinubu e-miscreants lies

Do you know without Tinubu in Lagos state, Lagos state could have been better than what it is ...

Think about it ...think of Alpha-beta

aribisala0:

Who is getting ahead of themselves and how? Are you wanting to practise the phrase? How does that come into anything I have said thus far?
So what if Seaports are on exclusive List What is the relevance of that ? Is there not a port almost complete in Lekki? A private venture?
Has PDP not been in control at the centre. The reality is that there has been no political will or vision to deliver that in the 16 years that PDP controlled Abuja.
Are refineries also on the exclusive list ? Did Amaechi as governor not have enough money to deliver a refinery playing those peculiar "advantages" > Advantages like gas, crude oil. What industry have any of those governors established to take advantage of their own "ADVANTAGES"?
Where is the Fishing industry? Where is the boat building industry?


The Niger Delta should even be better off than Lagos considering the huge oil prices they enjoyed under PDP

No leader has really achieved any praise worthy feat requiring special praise in Nigeria. That why I said get ahead of ourselves.

It seems you're going into politics. Unfortunately I won't as I am no politician.

Finally, Lagos maybe 'better' than most Nigerian states (I'm in Lagos) but it's hardly a special place.
In many respects it's a terrible place. Anyone who thinks Lagos has 'arrived' as a basis to laud his/her leadership skills has limited his/her growth & has probably deceived many.


Cheers.

aribisala0:

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Are u saying that u can't answer the question after claiming that "Lagos the Former Federal capital is NOT A NIGERIAN STATE"?

kindly different the geographic region which is Lagos the federal capital from Lagos the state

Asour:


No leader has really achieved any praise worthy feat requiring special praise in Nigeria. That why I said get ahead of ourselves.

It seems you're going into politics. Unfortunately I won't as I am no politician.

Finally, Lagos maybe 'better' than most Nigerian states (I'm in Lagos) but it's hardly a special place.
In many respects it's a terrible place. Anyone who thinks Lagos has 'arrived' as a basis to laud his/her leadership skills has sold himself short & has deceived many.


Cheers.

I suggest you refresh your understanding of the phrase
"getting ahead of oneself"
Praiseworthiness is in the gift of the praise giver.
You are entitled to withhold your praise but remember

You have only ONE PRAISE

Many others have different schemas from yous.

Yorubas will praise Awolowo for eternity and there is nothing you can do to change that.
There are many who praise Tinubu whether he deserves it or not I certainly acknowledge his impact relative to what went before him and in the context of societal expectation. I agree that we need to upgrade expectation but everything in life is contextual. and that is how one must appraise Tinubu; with contemporaneous contextual knowledge
Tinubu was the first governor after the military and expectation was very low. In comparison to his peers like Ibori, Duke, Alamiesiegha. Odili ,Igbinedion who had similar or even more resources when you consider that Obasanjo withheld allocations. He exceeded the expectations of the voters and is perhaps the only one with a long term perspective politically.
Whatever is wrong with Tinubu is the same thing doing us collectively .So we need to raise our game if we want better leaders
Today is another context another time and perhaps a different set of qualities are needed but part of the contextuality is the psychology of Nigeria today

seunmsg:
Tinubu is the game changer for Lagos state. He set the path that all others followed. He is the illuminator and the master planner of modern Lagos.

He moved the state internal revenue from the monthly N600million in 1999 to the over N20billion that it is today. In fact, when Tinubu re-positioned Lagos state board on internal revenue to LIRS, the Obasanjo government quickly copied the template and changed Federal board of inland revenue to FIRS.

His revenue, education, transport, health, waste management and traffic management policies have been copied by so many states all over the country and even the Federal government. That Lagos is now the 5th largest economy in Africa is to his credit.

Exactly!! is it easy to have worked for American companies- Arthur Andersen, Deloitte, GTE Services Corporation and to be an executive of Mobil Oil?

seunmsg:


Lagos is by far more beautiful than this today. The British only developed Lagos Island, Yorubas since the days of Awolowo developed the maintained, Lekki, Ajah etc. We moved our Lagos to the 5th largest economy in Africa and that is why Igbo folks like you want to die over Lagos.

It is not true that Lagos is by far more beautiful than when the British handed her over.... perhaps, you could say development has spread further away from the Island now.

If anyone is to talk of a structure that exists in Lagos, which every governor seems to be following, then that structure was created by the British...not Tinubu or anyone.

Certainly, Fashola outperformed all the other three, in terms of his administration's overall contribution to enhancing Lagos.

Even as Works and Housing Minister, Fashola has overseen the construction of over 900km of roads across all geopolitical zones and states in the country.

Imagine the whole idea around the Presidential Infrastructure Tax Initiative.. absolute brilliance!...you'd know it is his brainchild. That idea gave birth to Apapa-Oshodi-Oworonshoki Highway, Bonny-Bodo Bridge and several others.

You wouldn't hear that he's being linked to multibillon# properties or imposing relatives on the populace as Commissioner, Senator etc. He is way more disciplined, charismatic and focused.

I just don't like Tinubu's style at all....As governor, he created LASTMA and his wife's sister (Lola Akande) served on its board; the same sister in-law of his was a Commissioner under Ambode, and now under Sanwo-olu...his wife is in the Senate...his daughter is Iyaloja...he also installed Oyetola, his cousin, as governor of his state, Osun.

That is nonsense! For me, that is destructive greed and utterly disrespectful of the sensibilities of others.

aribisala0:

I suggest you refresh your understanding of the phrase
"getting ahead of oneself"
Praiseworthiness is in the gift of the praise giver.
You are entitled to withhold your praise but remember

You have only ONE PRAISE

Many others have different schemas from yous.

Yorubas will praise Awolowo for eternity and there is nothing you can do to change that.
There are many who praise Tinubu whether he deserves it or not I certainly acknowledge his impact relative to what went before him and in the context of societal expectation. I agree that we need to upgrade expectation but everything in life is contextual. and that is how one must appraise Tinubu; with contemporaneous contextual knowledge
Today is another context another time and perhaps a different set of qualities are needed but part of the contextuality is the psychology of Nigeria today

Sure. It's my opinion.

Everyone has theirs that's why we converse.
However if we are indeed sincere, Nigeria (all over obviously with different intensity) has progressively worsened in terms of welfare of [the Majority] of it's citizenry. Is this also my opinion or this is a fact?
Consequently anyone (not solely but collectively) who has been an active part of the political class over this period(s) would not reasonably be proud of any 'feats' as there aren't many.


O well I guess I may be the 'only' one seeing things bad.

Cheers.