Karlovych:
There is nothing modern about this your description as such role didn't start today. The likes of Romario, Bergkamp, Bebeto all had such attributes but still were able to deliver their KPIs as forwards.

darkelf:


lollllll

When was the last time we got to the finals



Wonders shall never cease

It's shameful we are regarded as giant of Africa

Barryseal:

If Eguavoen should be made substansive, it is best he gets a foreign assistant in areas of physical trainer, video analyst and goalkeeping coach. The rest of his back room can be Nigerians. Aloy Agu shouldn't be left to continue if he couldn't sort out the goalkeeping position in 6years.

TheGoodJoe:


I think with respect to video analysis, I do not know much about how in-depth Dr. Terry is but I believe he is sound enough for that. Joseph Yobo seems the one handling physical fitness, he is highly exposed to high-quality physical coaching and I think he is good enough for the job.

As for Agu, I think his time is up. We need fresh ideas in that department and I think someone indigenous will best suit due to the need of carrying out thorough scouting locally.

safarigirl:
At some point today, if you guys are yet to see it, some of you will come across the damning recording of Mason Greenwood allegedly sexually assaulting a woman and beating her.

When I come here and say some things, some people will say "Let's just keep it at football"

But let me repeat it, it is not just football. This young man, this small boy, has possibly ruined his own life and his career because of sexual indiscipline.

I rave and rant about how young men get drunk on this fame and fortune, and it seems like I am doing too much, but all it takes is one woman, one recording, one moment, and everything you have worked for, everything you have dreamt of, sinks. It is gone


And there is no one else to blame but yourself and the useless dick that dragged you to this bottomless pit.

This is a boy of what? 21 at most? Had so much going on for him and so much to look forward to, and so many greats ahead of him that could have given him tips, mentored him over the years, and what did he do with all that?

Anyway, another predator down, I am very sure there will be more to go, because people, especially those who lack discipline, never learn.

Barryseal:

I forgot Dr Terry. He appears to be in that sort of video analyst mode.
What I meant about a physical trainer is a tested physio. I saw our player eating egusi and poundo on snapchat. Ordinarily, they should be on strictly monitored diet. The world of physio have evolved past being an ex international qualified omyou as a physio.

The morden physios work with a lot of data driven analysis to get players to their peak, Yobo is not fit for this purpose. Cameroun for my money are the best preforming team in this tournament. Their physical condition is unmatched by any team I have seen so far.

Barryseal:

I forgot Dr Terry. He appears to be in that sort of video analyst mode.
What I meant about a physical trainer is a tested physio. I saw our player eating egusi and poundo on snapchat. Ordinarily, they should be on strictly monitored diet. The world of physio have evolved past being an ex international qualified you as a physio.

The morden physios work with a lot of data driven analysis to get players to their peak, Yobo is not fit for this purpose, at best he can assist a real physio. Cameroun for my money are the best preforming team in this tournament. Their physical condition is unmatched by any team I have seen so far.

TheGoodJoe:


The names above had top strikers ahead of them Bebeto had Ronaldo for instance. Bergkamp in the national team had Kluivert. At Arsenal had I think Wright. I think Romario had a lot of criticism for poor defensive contributions.

Today, it is so strict. I am not saying in the past we did not have them but it gets stricter as the modern game evolves.

Firmino would hardly had ever played as a top nine in the recent past.

Karlovych:
Ronaldo and Kluivert at no point in time were ahead of Bebeto and Bergkamp respectively, once again you come up with defensive contributions like it is the role of a forward.
A forwards KPI is to score goals for his team.

safarigirl:
At some point today, if you guys are yet to see it, some of you will come across the damning recording of Mason Greenwood allegedly sexually assaulting a woman and beating her.

When I come here and say some things, some people will say "Let's just keep it at football"

But let me repeat it, it is not just football. This young man, this small boy, has possibly ruined his own life and his career because of sexual indiscipline.

I rave and rant about how young men get drunk on this fame and fortune, and it seems like I am doing too much, but all it takes is one woman, one recording, one moment, and everything you have worked for, everything you have dreamt of, sinks. It is gone


And there is no one else to blame but yourself and the useless dick that dragged you to this bottomless pit.

This is a boy of what? 21 at most? Had so much going on for him and so much to look forward to, and so many greats ahead of him that could have given him tips, mentored him over the years, and what did he do with all that?

Anyway, another predator down, I am very sure there will be more to go, because people, especially those who lack discipline, never learn.

Barryseal:

Aloy Agu lacks the locus to continue as the goalkeepers trainer if he couldn't sort out the position in 6years. He is banking on Okoye to come good at Watford. We all know he will be demystified in England and when it happens he would be their 3rd or 4th choice GK.

TheGoodJoe:


It is called game management. It was not a defensive tactic but a mid block. If you go gung-ho against a side good at keeping the ball, you play into their game.

He kept a midblock meaning you press when the ball gets into the mid-zone.

Also, to keep the player fit for a high press in the second half. In the second half, you will watch the clock and increase the press as time ticks.

However, that goal spoilt the Dynamics but did not ruin he plan.

To me, that was sound strategic planning.

Barryseal:

If you out it that way, Jonathan David currently has the same goal and assists as Osimhen at the same point the season Osimhen played. So how is Osimhen better than him?

andrewbaba44:


I don’t think greenwood has ruined his career despite what just happened .

codemaniacs:


There was nothing sound and strategic about such tactic it made the S.E look abysmal and very negative.

A team can like that when they're leading not when it's 0 - 0..

It's was a show of poor game management..

TheGoodJoe:


From reports, ruined. He is likely getting locked up and which top club will sign him after that?

TheGoodJoe:


What are you telling me? Bebeto and Ronaldo played Atlanta 96 together and France 98.

France 98, Kluivert was the lead striker, Bergkamp was supporting.

Karlovych:
So based on your statement that means that Ronaldo and Kluivert were ahead of Bebeto and Bergkamp? All players were centre forwards whose primary responsibilities were to score goals for their teams.
A player being ahead of another is akin to Van Nistelrooy being ahead of Kluivert at Euro 2004 where the latter was a bench warmer that lead to his early retirement from the national team at 28.

Karlovych:
So based on your statement that means that Ronaldo and Kluivert were ahead of Bebeto and Bergkamp? All players were centre forwards whose primary responsibilities were to score goals for their teams.
A player being ahead of another is akin to Van Nistelrooy being ahead of Kluivert at Euro 2004 where the latter was a bench warmer that lead to his early retirement from the national team at 28.

andrewbaba44:


He is still 20 remember ?

TheGoodJoe:


Not an excuse as long as he is not a minor. Finished.

El Finito. Heard De Gea has unfollowed him on Twitter and Instagram.

TheGoodJoe:


You are missing the point. When I said ahead, I mean in position. Ronaldo played closer to goal than Bebeto. So that is why Bebeto will have some of the attributes I talked about Immobile.

Kluivert played closer to goal than Bergkamp.

Ciro Immobile plays a the most advanced position. However, he pulls up impressive stats in other attributes.

Joezinho:



We brag about having one of the best squads in africa but we can't find a good goalie. Naija na just hype abeg. Over hype infact. We have better GKs out there but our useless GK coach Alloy Agu refuses to call them up...Adebayo Adeleye who plays for Hapoel Jerusalem is there but has not been given a chance.

Agu is doing us a disservice.. Imagine Noble who is a bench warmer with Enyimba and has been reported to be a jittery goalie makes the team for better goalkeepers in the league, like Olorunleke Ojo (Enyimba) or Adewale Adeyinka (Akwa Utd) who would have been far better choices from the domestic league.

TheGoodJoe:


When RB Leipzig used that approach against Manchester City, it worked brilliantly. Maybe you will call that abysmal too.

It was a sound strategy and it would have been wrong to just press carelessly and get the team tired. It was sound process but the goal and red card disrupted the strategy.

Joezinho:



We brag about having one of the best squads in africa but we can't find a good goalie. Naija na just hype abeg. Over hype infact. We have better GKs out there but our useless GK coach Alloy Agu refuses to call them up...Adebayo Adeleye who plays for Hapoel Jerusalem is there but has not been given a chance.

Agu is doing us a disservice.. Imagine Noble who is a bench warmer with Enyimba and has been reported to be a jittery goalie makes the team for better goalkeepers in the league, like Olorunleke Ojo (Enyimba) or Adewale Adeyinka (Akwa Utd) who would have been far better choices from the domestic league.

codemaniacs:


We're talking about Tunisia not Man City and RB Leipzig..

Tunisia had at least 6 players out due to covid and other injuries.

They were a weakened team which means it's Tunisia that was supposed to use and was even using this defensive tactic until they noticed the S.E despite having all it's key players available was also playing defensive.

It wasn't a sound strategy when you consider Tunisia's situation..

andrewbaba44:


I don’t think greenwood has ruined his career despite what just happened .

Karlovych:
The likes of Ronaldo and Kluivert despite playing closer to goal all had such attributes as well and regular came into midfield and wide positions to support the attack.

andrewbaba44:


Has he been proven guilty yet ?

De gea unfollowing him has nothing to do with what will happen to him .

TheGoodJoe:


You can not compare it to the requirements today. There has been a lot of evolution in the tactical needs of strikers. How many of them then played like Firmino?

Karlovych:
Does Firmino play closer to goal?