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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 4:37pm On Jan 30, 2022
Parrot69:
The only 2 Departments bewitching the SE are the AM & The Goal keeping.
Since Okocha hung his boots, we have been running helter-skelter.
Since Enyeama bid the NFF “premature” goodbye, things has never been the same.
These 2 factors contributed why we couldn’t pull a stunt against Tunisia.
Iwobi would have managed but the red card spoilt the show.

Iwobi should not even be in the SE

He hardly plays for his club. Hasn't seen action in a while vefore ADCON. Same with Chukwueze and it showed

Iwobi's inclusion in the team is because of his Uncle's influence. He doesn't deserve it.

And we can't manage expired products

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 4:38pm On Jan 30, 2022
jihday:
Afelokai is a poor keeper tho

This season...yes

He doesn't even play in the first team again
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 4:39pm On Jan 30, 2022
Orji Okwonkwo scores

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:39pm On Jan 30, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Eguavoen wrong from day one according to you but voted best coach in the group stage and won all three games in that phase, while bringing excitement to the fans and fear factor to the team. Had players improving and put in up their best performances playing for the Super Eagles.

This your wrong from day one is confusing.
Wrong from the day he announced that he had sleepless night in selecting the team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 4:39pm On Jan 30, 2022
Alhassan Yusuf scores

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 4:40pm On Jan 30, 2022
Meliforme:


Can you explain our one shot on target.

How have we been playing better under Eguavoen.
Have we ever dominated plays.
Our midfield woes continues.
Have we seen a different tactics, divergent from what is seen of Rohr's later days.

Have you forgotten Rohr's early days?
Did you remember how cameroon was beaten 4:0 with their darling Vincent Abubakir heading the front line.

Why you have not questioned Eguavoen's tactics and choice of players baffles me.
Eguavoen has been wrong from day one.
He can learn from his paucity in ideas and understanding of players.
He can improve, but telling me we were better is a farce, just the new coach vibes.

Thank you
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel10: 4:41pm On Jan 30, 2022
Odunayaw:
grin You think Afcon 2019 was ours to win?

Not really.

With the type of kick-and-rush football we played at AFCON 2019, it was a miracle we reached the semis. In terms of playing pattern, we were beyond poor. We could hardly string three passes in midfield without losing the ball.

Ekong blasting long balls to God-knows-where all game long, Simon Moses playing as a second fullback, Iwobi laying one good pass after every twenty-five piss poor anywhere-belle-face passes grin, Chukwueze pulling off one good dribbling move and then going to sleep for the rest of the game......

The fact that Ighalo won the golden boot and saw the team to the semis with such poor service is a testament to his excellent personal abilities as a striker.

Joke apart, I enjoyed Eguavoen's three game winning streak far more than Rohr's eye-scratching, laborious, boring run to the semis.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 4:43pm On Jan 30, 2022
Papi85:
alhassan my man
your man has just scored
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:44pm On Jan 30, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Which kind of too confident. We played well. A keeper error and an unfair red card killed our chances. That is beyond the control of the coach.
Once a team loses you will hear people saying ooohh they underrated their opponent, they were overconfident. Hogwash

Yet one thing Eguavoen and the players stressed throughout their pressers is that they respect every team and will respect every team.

Is it so hard to discern why we lost that game cos I've read narratives like ghen ghen football cost us the game, overconfidence made us lose. These two reasons are off the mark as to why we lost that game.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 4:44pm On Jan 30, 2022
Curtisaxel10:


Not really.

With the type of kick-and-rush football we played at AFCON 2019, it was a miracle we reached the semis. In terms of playing pattern, we were beyond poor. We could hardly string three passes in midfield without losing the ball.

Ekong blasting long balls to God-knows-where all game long, Simon Moses playing as a second fullback, Iwobi laying one good pass after every twenty-five piss poor anywhere-belle-face passes grin, Chukwueze pulling off one good dribbling move and then going to sleep for the rest of the game......

The fact that Ighalo won the golden boot and saw the team to the semis with such poor service is a testament to his excellent personal abilities as a striker.

Joke apart, I enjoyed Eguavoen's three game winning streak far more than Rohr's eye-scratching, laborious, boring run to the semis.
Agreed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 4:46pm On Jan 30, 2022
codemaniacs:


We can't get over the loss, the loss has to be studied to prevent future re-occurrence..

the first thing to do is to drop Maduka Okoye to 4th choice and Uzoho start...

The second thing to do is to bench Awoniyi and let Umar Sadiq or Dessers or Ihenacho start as striker...

The third thing to do is to ensure we always start with at least 3 midfielders , Ihenacho must never play as a midfielder again..

the fourth thing is ensure Amoo is called up replaces Ihenacho's midfield position...



Your second line is a confident killer, did we had a good Goalkeeper trainer to bring out the best in them, Or are you saying if Gineau abi had capitalized on that uzoho split, you would had name him as a first


On your third line, remove Nacho from there, he is no striker, Dessert, Umar, and Ighalo,

Fourthly, is spot on, but did Nacho had a position he plays

you last line is spot on too,

while I will add a line, we need wingers who can create from nothing like Vicmo, not Simon who run out of Ideas in a tough game, can not cutting to save his life

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 4:47pm On Jan 30, 2022
Mujtahida:
Who will keep against Ghana? That's why we can't let the issue slide

It's not just about who will keep, do we have a goalkeeper trainer at all
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:49pm On Jan 30, 2022
Curtisaxel10:


Not really.

With the type of kick-and-rush football we played at AFCON 2019, it was a miracle we reached the semis. In terms of playing pattern, we were beyond poor. We could hardly string three passes in midfield without losing the ball.

Ekong blasting long balls to God-knows-where all game long, Simon Moses playing as a second fullback, Iwobi laying one good pass after every twenty-five piss poor anywhere-belle-face passes grin, Chukwueze pulling off one good dribbling move and then going to sleep for the rest of the game......

The fact that Ighalo won the golden boot and saw the team to the semis with such poor service is a testament to his excellent personal abilities as a striker.

Joke apart, I enjoyed Eguavoen's three game winning streak far more than Rohr's eye-scratching, laborious, boring run to the semis.
That's Rohr for you
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 4:52pm On Jan 30, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
greenwood is still yet to be arrested baba and his to can be treated as not being a criminal offense wink
I seriously doubt if you understand the gravity of the crime being brought against Greenwood. If his case was like the former New York governor Cuomo which involving stylish groping, grabbing and pestering for sex. Then he would have been in lesser trouble, at least only with Man Utd, FA and not with government. That one can be quickly settled with money. In fact many stars especially in the US have been guilty of this

But this one is domestic violence coupled with audio recording of him forcing her to sleep with him. That's classified as rape. I'm just being honest with you. A year or two in jail will be a miracle for him if the court proves this. His case is not good at all.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:01pm On Jan 30, 2022
TheGoodJoe:



Failed, failed, failed.

We have heard that side. The point is, did the coach do his Job well? Yes he did. It was an unfortunate loss because things beyond his control made us lose.

We created 13 chances. Tunisia created 7.

No he did not.

Zaidu recorded 100% accuracy in crosses (3/3) against Egypt, Ebuehi recorded 100% accuracy in crosses (1/1) against Equatorial Guinea, even though Zaidu crosses wasn't as efficient in subsequent games as they were against Egypt, but they were still better than what our wingers were dishing out.

Upon this discovery, what should an average tactician do? Allow your fullbacks to provide the required width, let them do more of the crossing while your wingers crowd about the opponent's box. But this will in many ways alter the structure and integrity of the 4-4-2, 4-2-2-2 system, since your wingers should be assuming an inverted role.

Our wingers were played as inverted wingers as against the traditional winger role as typified in 4-4-2, 4-2-2-2 system. Chukwueze is left footed and should be plying the left side of the pitch as a traditional winger in a 4-2-2-2, but we saw him on the right, despite playing an inverted role, he was made to do crosses which shouldn't be the normal. Inverted wingers are supposed to play somehow as strikers were they are to cut in with their stronger foot to shoot, do some playmaking or trade a simple pass.

Again we lacked the central midfield to distribute good passes to the wingers, even the player who could do it, was played from the bench or not played at all. The presence of Nwakali, Ejuke and finally Olayinka made me think that 4-2-2-2 might somehow be feasible, but i was wrong, these guys were benched for the wrong personnel. Our long passes from the defense stood more chances of being read and neutralized, than the ones from midfield.

To Summarise,
Eguavoen should have allowed his fullbacks to do more of the crossing, seeing that they are better, revert to 4-3-3 because it is the best setup that gives your fullback and wingers the best orientation for this kind of maneuvre.

Eguavoen should have allowed his wingers their traditional roles, but he inverted them and still expected them to perform like traditional wingers.

Our hanker for a central midfield that can spray passes and dictate play became more intense after Rohr switched to 4-4-2. Eguavoen had one, but failed to grasp the importance.

In the light of these and more, Eguavoen flopped big time. TheGoodJoe, you know how much i value your insights, but on this one, i will not subscribe. Moreover there is this interesting romantic movie before me, that i have pledge to finish. Let me finish it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 5:02pm On Jan 30, 2022
JohnBullMySon:
I seriously doubt if you understand the gravity of the crime being brought against Greenwood. If his case was like the former New York governor Cuomo which involving stylish groping, grabbing and pestering for sex. Then he would have been in lesser trouble, at least only with Man Utd, FA and not with government. That one can be quickly settled with money. In fact many stars especially in the US have been guilty of this

But this one is domestic violence coupled with audio recording of him forcing her to sleep with him. That's classified as rape. I'm just being honest with you. A year or two in jail will be a miracle for him if the court proves this. His case is not good at all.
I saw everything am only talking as a concerned Manchester united supporter and hoping his career doesn't end this way just like people are predicting let wait till the end to see what happens at the end of it all only are evidence won't be used, expect if you will tell me he won't be allowed to give account of his own side of the story wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 5:12pm On Jan 30, 2022
As Egypt don equalize like dis make this match enter penalty abeg I dey enjoy am since Nigeria isn't involved smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:12pm On Jan 30, 2022
Salah don score

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:13pm On Jan 30, 2022
Meliforme:


No he did not.

Zaidu recorded 100% accuracy in crosses (3/3) against Egypt, Ebuehi recorded 100% accuracy in crosses (1/1) against Equatorial Guinea, even though Zaidu crosses wasn't as efficient in subsequent games as they were against Egypt, but they were still better than what our wingers were dishing out.

Upon this discovery, what should an average tactician do? Allow your fullbacks to provide the required width, let them do more of the crossing while your wingers crowd about the opponent's box. But this will in many ways alter the structure and integrity of the 4-4-2, 4-2-2-2 system, since your wingers should be assuming an inverted role.

Our wingers were played as inverted wingers as against the traditional winger role as typified in 4-4-2, 4-2-2-2 system. Chukwueze is left footed and should be plying the left side of the pitch as a traditional winger in a 4-2-2-2, but we saw him on the right, despite playing an inverted role, he was made to do crosses which shouldn't be the normal. Inverted wingers are supposed to play somehow as strikers were they are to cut in with their stronger foot to shoot, do some playmaking or trade a simple pass.

Again we lacked the central midfield to distribute good passes to the wingers, even the player who could do it, was played from the bench or not played at all. The presence of Nwakali, Ejuke and finally Olayinka made me think that 4-2-2-2 might somehow be feasible, but i was wrong, these guys were benched for the wrong personnel. Our long passes from the defense stood more chances of being read and neutralized, than the ones from midfield.

To Summarise,
Eguavoen should have allowed his fullbacks to do more of the crossing, seeing that they are better, revert to 4-3-3 because it is the best setup that gives your fullback and wingers the best orientation for this kind of maneuvre.

Eguavoen should have allowed his wingers their traditional roles, but he inverted them and still expected them to perform like traditional wingers.

Our hanker for a central midfield that can spray passes and dictate play became more intense when Rohr switched to 4-4-2. Eguavoen had one, but failed to grasp the importance.

In the light of these and more, Eguavoen flopped big time. TheGoodJoe, you know how much i value your insights, but on this one, i will not subscribe. Moreover there is this interesting romantic movie before me, that i have pledge to finish. Let me finish it.

Nice thesis but hasty conclusion. I will give you some things to ponder on.

We played a highly offensive system with our wingers, attackers, and to some extent midfielders (including Ndidi) pushing forward.

How do you expect the full backs to push at ease to provide width? You are forgetting it is a strategy of diagonal long balls and the wingers are to recieve it.

I have said it repeatedly, the coach has his philosophy. What was present was that it was effective.

You keep talking about the wingers being inverted. It is his philosophy. What matters is that he created chances. How he creates it does not defeat that aspect.

No matter how long you write and argue, the fact remains we created loads of chances.

You talk about not utilizing crosses, the coach has told you it is a system that they will grow into with time. He does not want to change the system. He wants the players to perfect on it. With time they will arrive at the attacking third at the right time to make use of the crosses.

I repeat, all this long story does not count as long as we created chances. Our problem was failing to take the chances created. No matter how you switch the shape, if the chances comes, and they do not take it, the switches won't matter.

FINITO.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 5:14pm On Jan 30, 2022
If our best is not abroad let's select from home

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 5:19pm On Jan 30, 2022
zuchyblink:
If our best is not abroad let's select from home
hypocrite why didn't you say this during your darling daddy reign undecided gen gen pressing is currently at the stadium watching two out of them play wink what your darling daddy was forced to do in his 5 year's of being in charge which never result to something good as he never believed in our league, that what having son of the soil does not an hotel manager grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:21pm On Jan 30, 2022
Meliforme:


No he did not.

Zaidu recorded 100% accuracy in crosses (3/3) against Egypt, Ebuehi recorded 100% accuracy in crosses (1/1) against Equatorial Guinea, even though Zaidu crosses wasn't as efficient in subsequent games as they were against Egypt, but they were still better than what our wingers were dishing out.

Upon this discovery, what should an average tactician do? Allow your fullbacks to provide the required width, let them do more of the crossing while your wingers crowd about the opponent's box. But this will in many ways alter the structure and integrity of the 4-4-2, 4-2-2-2 system, since your wingers should be assuming an inverted role.

Our wingers were played as inverted wingers as against the traditional winger role as typified in 4-4-2, 4-2-2-2 system. Chukwueze is left footed and should be plying the left side of the pitch as a traditional winger in a 4-2-2-2, but we saw him on the right, despite playing an inverted role, he was made to do crosses which shouldn't be the normal. Inverted wingers are supposed to play somehow as strikers were they are to cut in with their stronger foot to shoot, do some playmaking or trade a simple pass.

Again we lacked the central midfield to distribute good passes to the wingers, even the player who could do it, was played from the bench or not played at all. The presence of Nwakali, Ejuke and finally Olayinka made me think that 4-2-2-2 might somehow be feasible, but i was wrong, these guys were benched for the wrong personnel. Our long passes from the defense stood more chances of being read and neutralized, than the ones from midfield.

To Summarise,
Eguavoen should have allowed his fullbacks to do more of the crossing, seeing that they are better, revert to 4-3-3 because it is the best setup that gives your fullback and wingers the best orientation for this kind of maneuvre.

Eguavoen should have allowed his wingers their traditional roles, but he inverted them and still expected them to perform like traditional wingers.

Our hanker for a central midfield that can spray passes and dictate play became more intense after Rohr switched to 4-4-2. Eguavoen had one, but failed to grasp the importance.

In the light of these and more, Eguavoen flopped big time. TheGoodJoe, you know how much i value your insights, but on this one, i will not subscribe. Moreover there is this interesting romantic movie before me, that i have pledge to finish. Let me finish it.


You talk about midfield build-up play. It is not the coach's system.

He plays a direct attacking system. Eguavoen believes in it. I remember once reading Coach Sylvanus Okpala make the same statement. He believes clever build-up plays with patience will not work for us.

You can critique it from today to tomorrow, it is their belief. Not mine. I am in love with a patient, tidy midfield play. Blown by defense-keeping possession.

They do not. They believe we are RUSHIANS. Get the ball upfront and let us get the game going.

So when criticizing, remember we created the chances and fail to take them. Changing shape might mean disrupting the plan the coach has for the team. Even with a man down, we kept creating chances.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:23pm On Jan 30, 2022
zuchyblink:
If our best is not abroad let's select from home

Based on appearance, Kayode and Mustapha are my picks.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daninya33: 5:28pm On Jan 30, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Based on appearance, Kayode and Mustapha are my picks.
Same here sire.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 5:29pm On Jan 30, 2022
Opari

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PetroDolla2020: 5:31pm On Jan 30, 2022
south africa, and what is special about south africa?

at least Ghana provides electricity for its people grin people are not being kidnapped on the streets and in their homes for a ransom of a bottle of coke and gala grin life expectancy in Ghana. what is life expectancy in Nigeria? abeg, comot for road grin Ghana is NOT the poverty capital of the world grin
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JohnBullMySon:
Only those who know little about Ghana will not laugh at this rubbish. Don't drag us with politics. You are not South Africa oh. Ghana isn't better off.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 5:34pm On Jan 30, 2022
zuchyblink:
If our best is not abroad let's select from home

The Remo Star goalkeeper just made a school boy mistake in today's match.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daninya33: 5:34pm On Jan 30, 2022
Show of shame in the game BTW Egypt and Morocco
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 5:34pm On Jan 30, 2022
zuchyblink:
If our best is not abroad let's select from home
Thumb up.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 5:36pm On Jan 30, 2022
Omo Egypt vs morroco don turn war o but this ref go get ticket wey he Play and na morroco go dey inside to win because his officiating kinda favours morroco grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:39pm On Jan 30, 2022
See saves nah

Better keeper ,not even their first choice

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 5:45pm On Jan 30, 2022
andrewbaba44:
See saves nah

Better keeper ,not even their first choice
are you using style to say maduka fine boy madu madu grin grin grin can't make such save grin

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