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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 2:12pm On Feb 02, 2022
BlueMann:


But the community shield isn't recognized as a major title - at least not anymore. And the Super Cup is.
I am just seeing this.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 2:32pm On Feb 02, 2022
Theuniverse:
so chelsea didnt sell barkley, wages excuse, cant we do a wage sharing transfer deal with any club for him? what of jorginho why couldn't we sell him even loan him out. so cus of jorginho we couldnt buy tchoumeni. in summer more clubs will compete for him. what of lukaku didn't psg come for a 70m deal or so? so we refused them and kept him. and allowed juventus get vlahovic easily. other clubs got at least one major signing, we just lost all our targets. so na so marina take win best best chairman awards ehn? chelsea no serious!!!
You want to sell jorginho and Lukaku in January? How now?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 3:48pm On Feb 02, 2022
donstan18:
James is more of a balanced player than Trent.

Unless you’re abnormal, you can argue it.

Even Wan Bisaka is more defensive than Trent.

Only an abnormal coach will choose James ahead of Trent.

I hope the fat L wicked Salah slapped you with isn't messing with your head.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 4:17pm On Feb 02, 2022
swiz123:


Only an abnormal coach will choose James ahead of Trent.

I hope the fat L wicked Salah slapped you with isn't messing with your head.

Maybe you should have used a bias Chelsea fan instead

I no no when James and Arnold become mates grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 4:37pm On Feb 02, 2022
swiz123:


Only an abnormal coach will choose James ahead of Trent.

I hope the fat L wicked Salah slapped you with isn't messing with your head.
When will your Fraudvertz slap me with his own L? cheesy

It’s almost 2 years now.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 4:39pm On Feb 02, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Maybe you should have used a bias Chelsea fan instead

I no no when James and Arnold become mates grin

Nothing like that boss. The same James that some people were referring to as the best RB in the league at some point before his injury?

They are mates, but Trent is at the top of the game.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 4:42pm On Feb 02, 2022
The same reason I’ll choose Alaba over Marcelo is the same reason I’ll choose James over Trent.

I don’t like defensive liabilities.

Ba a complete package. Be balanced.

James and Alaba are the best in their position right now in the world.

Only Sandro and Robertson comes closer.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 5:06pm On Feb 02, 2022
BlueMann:


Nothing like that boss. The same James that some people were referring to as the best RB in the league at some point before his injury?

They are mates, but Trent is at the top of the game.

But to be sincere James is good make I no lie ,he will be world class soon if he continues like this ,but I think Arnold is better and it’s very clear

Allow James to be Consistent for 2 more seasons okay

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 5:09pm On Feb 02, 2022
donstan18:
The same reason I’ll choose Alaba over Marcelo is the same reason I’ll choose James over Trent.

I don’t like defensive liabilities.

Ba a complete package. Be balanced.

James and Alaba are the best in their position right now in the world.

Only Sandro and Robertson comes closer.


When last did alaba play Fullback ,he mostly play as a CB now and he is not the best CB in the world

James is not the best in is position abeg ,Na only Chelsea fans go talk this one abeg
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 5:25pm On Feb 02, 2022
donstan18:
The same reason I’ll choose Alaba over Marcelo is the same reason I’ll choose James over Trent.

I don’t like defensive liabilities.

Ba a complete package. Be balanced.

James and Alaba are the best in their position right now in the world.

Only Sandro and Robertson comes closer.

Trent is hardly a defensive liability. He's not the strongest defensively but i don't think he's bad either. James is the more balanced full back but what Trent offers on the ball is so much more. TAA is the best RB in the world and James is not even number 2.

BTW, you might need to update your ball knowledge. Alaba plays as a CB these days and Sandro, while still decent isn't a top 3 full back any more. And does the name Alphonso Davies ring a bell?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:33pm On Feb 02, 2022
James has never proven his speed endurance / stamina in a back four.

Guy used to gas out sprinting back from attacking positions. Not surprising given his body size. Large muscles tire quicker.

For now, no one can say definitively he is better than this or that until his stamina is tested in a back 4. His recovery runs were not great in comparison to Trent. A wingback can sometimes catch their breath after bombing forward while the RCB come across to cover. A fullback hardly has such luxury.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 5:46pm On Feb 02, 2022
pkasso:
Trent is hardly a defensive liability. He's not the strongest defensively but i don't think he's bad either. James is the more balanced full back but what Trent offers on the ball is so much more. TAA is the best RB in the world and James is not even number 2.

BTW, you might need to update your ball knowledge. Alaba plays as a CB these days and Sandro, while still decent isn't a top 3 full back any more. And does the name Alphonso Davies ring a bell?
What’s Alaba main position?

Azip and Kimmich are very versatile, but they have main natural position.

So again I ask, what’s Alaba main position?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 5:47pm On Feb 02, 2022
andrewbaba44:


When last did alaba play Fullback ,he mostly play as a CB now and he is not the best CB in the world

James is not the best in is position abeg ,Na only Chelsea fans go talk this one abeg
James is the best in his position.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 5:48pm On Feb 02, 2022
pkasso:
Trent is hardly a defensive liability. He's not the strongest defensively but i don't think he's bad either. James is the more balanced full back but what Trent offers on the ball is so much more. TAA is the best RB in the world and James is not even number 2.

BTW, you might need to update your ball knowledge. Alaba plays as a CB these days and Sandro, while still decent isn't a top 3 full back any more. And does the name Alphonso Davies ring a bell?

Sandro isn’t even the best in seria A

Ask am weda Na golf achraf hakimi Dey play grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 5:55pm On Feb 02, 2022
Hakimi: 25 appearances... 6G/A

James: 23 appearances.... 11G/A

One dey play with Neymar, Mbappe and
Messi in a League they are dominating.

One dey play with Fraudvertz, Odoi and Lukaku in a League they aren’t dominating.

But somehow, Hakimi is better.

Clowns!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 6:49pm On Feb 02, 2022
donstan18:

What’s Alaba main position?

Azip and Kimmich are very versatile, but they have main natural position.

So again I ask, what’s Alaba main position?
Alaba is the most versatile player in the world so i can understand your confusion. He started out as a LB but he rarely plays there these days. I think he has even played more as a CM than even LB in recent times.

He has played consistently as a CB for over 2 years, far more than any other position. The last time Alaba played as a LB on a regular basis was in October 2019. Even when Davies got injured for 3 months, he remained at CB. He has moved to Real Madrid now and he is still starting as a CB. What does that tell you?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 7:06pm On Feb 02, 2022
donstan18:
Hakimi: 25 appearances... 6G/A

James: 23 appearances.... 11G/A

One dey play with Neymar, Mbappe and
Messi in a League they are dominating.

One dey play with Fraudvertz, Odoi and Lukaku in a League they aren’t dominating.

But somehow, Hakimi is better.

Clowns!!
I'm not a fan of rating full backs on traditional attacking metrics alone but let me humor you. Hakimi plays in a back 4 at PSG while James plays as a RWB so it's only logical that he would have more goal contributions. Morever, Hakimi is just in his first season at PSG and is yet to fully hit his strides.
Why not bring out Hakimi's numbers as a wingback for Dortmund and Inter Milan and let's compare.

You can also bring the amazing stats Neymar and Messi have been dropping in the Ligue One this season so we can see how they have been helping Hakimi pad stats.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:13pm On Feb 02, 2022
Chelsea fans are quick to compare their players with ours but after few years,it will always be clear as day who is/was better....

Gerrard/Lampard
Coutinho/Oscar
Salah/hazard
Jota/werner

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 7:15pm On Feb 02, 2022
Kloppo:
Chelsea fans are quick to compare their players with ours but after some few years,it will always be clear as day who is/was better....

Gerrard/Lampard
Coutinho/Oscar
Salah/hazard
Jota/werner

Did you really convince your brain to believe that Gerard is better than lampard??

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 7:32pm On Feb 02, 2022
donjazet:


Did you really convince your brain to believe that Gerard is better than lampard??
That one shock me...

I no lie
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 7:34pm On Feb 02, 2022
donjazet:


Did you really convince your brain to believe that Gerard is better than lampard??
how old are you?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:36pm On Feb 02, 2022
andrewbaba44:


But to be sincere James is good make I no lie ,he will be world class soon if he continues like this ,but I think Arnold is better and it’s very clear

Allow James to be Consistent for 2 more seasons okay

Trent is at the top of the game, but James is close by. I think we can best put it that way

Cancelo and Hakimi are also up there.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:39pm On Feb 02, 2022
donjazet:


Did you really convince your brain to believe that Gerard is better than lampard??

Brains with IQ and enough brain cells don't need enough convincing after seeing this screenshot

You have 30mins to bring out your stats and SUPERIOR ARGUEMENT

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:41pm On Feb 02, 2022
Ibime:
James has never proven his speed endurance / stamina in a back four.

Guy used to gas out sprinting back from attacking positions. Not surprising given his body size. Large muscles tire quicker.

For now, no one can say definitively he is better than this or that until his stamina is tested in a back 4. His recovery runs were not great in comparison to Trent. A wingback can sometimes catch their breath after bombing forward while the RCB come across to cover. A fullback hardly has such luxury.


To be frank, this is something that lingers at the back of my mind.

It'll be interesting to see if TT continues with the 4-1-4-1 formation, even when James returns.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:48pm On Feb 02, 2022
seankafor:
how old are you?

grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:52pm On Feb 02, 2022
pkasso:
I'm not a fan of rating full backs on traditional attacking metrics alone but let me humor you. Hakimi plays in a back 4 at PSG while James plays as a RWB so it's only logical that he would have more goal contributions. Morever, Hakimi is just in his first season at PSG and is yet to fully hit his strides.
Why not bring out Hakimi's numbers as a wingback for Dortmund and Inter Milan and let's compare.

You can also bring the amazing stats Neymar and Messi have been dropping in the Ligue One this season so we can see how they have been helping Hakimi pad stats.
Regardless of any formation, fact remains that James has been better than Hakimi this season.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 7:52pm On Feb 02, 2022
Kloppo:


Brains with IQ and enough brain cells don't need enough convincing after seeing this screenshot

You have 30mins to bring out your stats and SUPERIOR ARGUEMENT
From this metric

Do u agree that joginho is better than all the PL dm presently......

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 7:58pm On Feb 02, 2022
These liverpool fans that come here self

Their monikers are usually referencing mane, Salah or klopp, fair weather fans cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:58pm On Feb 02, 2022
Segedinho:

From this metric

Who is better between

Joginho and Fabinho...


Cos I see goals and assists ain't included since it didn't favour u.




Dumb analogy

Stay on the topic of discussion,me and una no argue joginho and fabinho.....

I said Gerrard was better than Lampard,he disagreed and you supported him....Epah, bring out your superior ARGUEMENT na grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 8:01pm On Feb 02, 2022
Kloppo:


Brains with IQ and enough brain cells don't need enough convincing after seeing this screenshot

You have 30mins to bring out your stats and SUPERIOR ARGUEMENT

I see how you conveniently left out the main Koko for midfielders which is goals and assists. grin grin
Not to talk of trophies won. grin grin

Lampard goals and assists = 483
Gerald goals and assists = 364

Lampard was not Gerard's mate on an individual level. The greatest midfielder the EPL has ever seen.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 8:04pm On Feb 02, 2022
Kloppo:


Dumb analogy

Stay on the topic of discussion,me and una no argue joginho and fabinho.....

I said Gerrard was better than Lampard,he disagreed and you supported him....Epah, bring out your superior ARGUEMENT na grin

Yeah.....

Before u claim someone is better than the other,u must have come up with some statistic and it should be general.

I will agree with you only if same is said about joginho.


I rate Gerald as well as Lampard but I tip Lamps slightly ahead due to his very important goals and assists.

One of their best PL display

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 8:04pm On Feb 02, 2022
Havertz10:
These liverpool fans that come here self

Their monikers are usually referencing mane, Salah or klopp, fair weather fans cheesy cheesy

For the first time, you've got no contrary opinion and superior facts in an arguement concerning chelsea,I will take that as a W

Cos on a norms,you for type /post more than 450 words

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