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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:00am On Feb 04, 2022
raumdeuter:


Boateng has been playing top level football for top clubs and NT since 2009 and he is due to retire.

When did Muller start playing top level football and was he flinged out of Bayern like Boathand? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:34am On Feb 04, 2022
airmark:


When did Muller start playing top level football and was he flinged out of Bayern like Boathand? grin

When did VVD start playing top level football? When dem Boateng were winning world cups and CL at age 25 where was he in football?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:39am On Feb 04, 2022
raumdeuter:


[s]When did VVD start playing top level football? When dem Boateng were winning world cups and CL at age 25 where was he in football?[/s]

Why is Muller still in Bayern despite joining the team before your useless and disgraced Boathand? Find another excuse. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:52am On Feb 04, 2022
airmark:


Why is Muller still in Bayern despite joining the team before your useless and disgraced Boathand? Find another excuse. grin

Why did no big team pick up the useless VVD before 27yrs when the likes of Boateng already won the CL and world cup?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 3:46am On Feb 04, 2022
raumdeuter:
This Cameroun vs Egypt. I feel whoever wins it wins the trophy
Egypt will win the trophy, salah to score in the final.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 6:33am On Feb 04, 2022
Ibime:


Egypt are in the final without beating one major Black African country on the pitch

Lost to Nigeria, took CIV and Cameroun to penalties

The only time they felt confident to play was facing their North African brothers Morocco

Don't be surprised, they will try to take Senegal to penalties.

That's how tournament football is played.

Funny thing is that, they don't look like they pose a threat going forward.

How they've gotten to this stage is something else.

Carlos Quieroz effect maybe.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 7:19am On Feb 04, 2022
Skimpledawg:

My wife didn't have an idea initially about the club football winter break, so she noticed that I spent more time with her after work rather than go see games outside the house or browse scores of other teams.

Naso my babe come dey compliment me as a changed person, I kuku tell am say I did it for her. Anything to be close to my beautiful young wife. Esweet am eeh. grin

Omo, she saw me yesterday visibly seeing our last training practice on YT while driving back home from getting groceries, naso face change for motor. "Football makes you stay late", football this, football that.

How do I start explaining and singing inside car over an issue that shouldn't be an issue.

I just lock up too.

You for open this thread, show am Havertz10 comment of that couple for traffic grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AnfieldFan: 7:23am On Feb 04, 2022
Griffon:


Funny thing is that, they don't look like they pose a threat going forward.

How they've gotten to this stage is something else.

Carlos Quieroz effect maybe.

They got through their second and third matches via Salah, got through the others due to good goalkeeping...
Carlos keeps starting Marmoush and Mohammed Mustapha, e sure me die say those two people no fit juggle ball up to 10 times, especially that Mustapha...Maybe he's a big name in Egypt though he plays in Turkey now because I no know wetin en d contribute...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Exonerate1(m): 8:11am On Feb 04, 2022
BikeMan:
I.b_ime, arise grin

Only thing this stat shows is he's attempting 2x the number of tackles compared to those guys

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Exonerate1(m): 8:17am On Feb 04, 2022
Emaprince:
Euro final finished 1-1 na... and penalty could have gone either way. So if England won, would you have posted a crying jorg?

As for players dribbled the most. Jorg may not even be in the list because he has people like kante and kova that throws themselves in for a tackle..whether they win it or not. Jorg na express. He is non existent infront of any rampaging player on attack. The mugu is easily pushed aside.

Jorginho dominated that game from start to finish , showed England what it is like to play football

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 8:45am On Feb 04, 2022
AnfieldFan:


They got through their second and third matches via Salah, got through the others due to good goalkeeping...
Carlos keeps starting Marmoush and Mohammed Mustapha, e sure me die say those two people no fit juggle ball up to 10 times, especially that Mustapha...Maybe he's a big name in Egypt though he plays in Turkey now because I no know wetin en d contribute...

Has the guy even had a shot on target?

That Egyptian team is so boring mehn. There's nothing enterprising about them, they only look inventive whenever Salah is on the ball, and those doesn't last for long cos his teammates are bound to let him down.

I'm rooting for Senegal at this stage. Those ones are balling.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:55am On Feb 04, 2022
Griffon:


Has the guy even had a shot on target?

That Egyptian team is so boring mehn. There's nothing enterprising about them, they only look inventive whenever Salah is on the ball, and those doesn't last for long cos his teammates are bound to let him down.

I'm rooting for Senegal at this stage. Those ones are balling.
Senegal will rip them apart.

Nothing will stop that Salah from getting disgraced.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 9:00am On Feb 04, 2022
donstan18:

Senegal will rip them apart.

Nothing will stop that Salah from getting disgraced.

grin grin grin grin

Take the first dose of the L first.

The next dosage can be skipped.

Be a man grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:02am On Feb 04, 2022
Exonerate1:


Jorginho dominated that game from start to finish , showed England what it is like to play football

Rubbish, all Mancini did was outnumber Rice and Phillips, leaving Jogginghoe as the free man to be receiving the ball at the base with no direct opponent.

If at any minute Southgate had decided to match man for man in midfield, your weakling would have been back to hiding like when Pedri was put on him in the semi, dropping 30 passes in 120 mins.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:07am On Feb 04, 2022
Exonerate1:


Only thing this stat shows is he's attempting 2x the number of tackles compared to those guys

Correct. Because the pussy jumps in for tackles that other players simply use their body to collect ball.

Every single tackle or duel below shows why the weakling jumps into tackles, man is easily brushed aside.

The only pussy that will jump into a tackle when the duel is in his favour. Man even tackles for 60:40 or 70:30 challenges in his favour


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5XGRwPe-Y0

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:11am On Feb 04, 2022
Ibime:


Rubbish, all Mancini did was outnumber Rice and Phillips, leaving Jogginghoe as the free man to be receiving the ball at the base with no direct opponent.

If at any minute Southgate had decided to match man for man in midfield, your weakling would have been back to hiding like when Pedri was put on him in the semi, dropping 30 passes in 120 mins.
Anybody wey get u as enemy e don be for that pesin walahi.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 9:20am On Feb 04, 2022
Spain lost their first game against Switzerland enroute to winning 2010 WC , Portugal used 3pts to qualify from their group enroute to winning Euro 2016, Holland defeated West Germany in WC 74 or 78 (I don't know the exact year) but when they met in final West Germany showed them what is total football in reality. Cup competitions have their pattern and if you don't follow it you will lose out

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 9:20am On Feb 04, 2022
izzou:


grin grin grin grin

Take the first dose of the L first.

The next dosage can be skipped.

Be a man grin
L of what exactly? cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AnfieldFan: 9:36am On Feb 04, 2022
Griffon:


Has the guy even had a shot on target?

That Egyptian team is so boring mehn. There's nothing enterprising about them, they only look inventive whenever Salah is on the ball, and those doesn't last for long cos his teammates are bound to let him down.

I'm rooting for Senegal at this stage. Those ones are balling.

Exactly, they can't complete simple passes..The amount of big chances Salah's created in this tournament gives you an idea...
I'm rooting for Egypt though because I feel it increases his Balon d'or chances...
I want Senegal in the world cup though, Egypt in the world cup is a disaster waiting to happen..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:48am On Feb 04, 2022
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:48am On Feb 04, 2022
Ibime:


Correct. Because the pussy jumps in for tackles that other players simply use their body to collect ball.
Every single tackle or duel below shows why the weakling jumps into tackles, man is easily brushed aside.
The only pussy that will jump into a tackle when the duel is in his favour. Man even tackles for 60:40 or 70:30 challenges in his favour

This kain irrational hate funny die. grin grin
See how hard you are trying to make a world class player look bad. You read that article singing his praises and you just couldn't resist. cheesy
Oga you have been shamed over and over again. Chop your LLLL's in peace.
See how you shamefully went to bring his worse compilation video as if there is any player who doesn't have one. I expect you to know better.

Explain away jorginho's highest distant covered stat na, or his high ball recoveries or his high interceptions or his highest pressing stats. Explain
them all away you god-damn hater. cheesy

Now look at this jorginho video below and tell me what you think. Tell me if your eyes did not well up with tears. cheesy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfyjSzysoH0

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibunkun1(m): 9:49am On Feb 04, 2022
Skimpledawg:

My wife didn't have an idea initially about the club football winter break, so she noticed that I spent more time with her after work rather than go see games outside the house or browse scores of other teams.

Naso my babe come dey compliment me as a changed person, I kuku tell am say I did it for her. Anything to be close to my beautiful young wife. Esweet am eeh. grin

Omo, she saw me yesterday visibly seeing our last training practice on YT while driving back home from getting groceries, naso face change for motor. "Football makes you stay late", football this, football that.

How do I start explaining and singing inside car over an issue that shouldn't be an issue.

I just lock up too.

grin grin any woman wey marry a football lover make she kuku accept her fate. Nothing can tamper with that love for football grin. A big brother if mine, his wife initially complains about his love for football. After a while I see say she dey join him to watch, I just dey laugh
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:52am On Feb 04, 2022
Shame no catch Ibime, he is now arguing with UEFA TECHNICAL REPORT.

let that sink in, UEFA TECHNICAL REPORT. As in the governors of football, the second highest body of football in the world. This is who Ibime is now arguing against.

What will hate not do to a person? grin grin

Just look at the last part of that report.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Exonerate1(m): 10:15am On Feb 04, 2022
Ibime:


Correct. Because the pussy jumps in for tackles that other players simply use their body to collect ball.

Every single tackle or duel below shows why the weakling jumps into tackles, man is easily brushed aside.

The only pussy that will jump into a tackle when the duel is in his favour. Man even tackles for 60:40 or 70:30 challenges in his favour


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5XGRwPe-Y0

How he engages is quite irrelevant here I'm just saying the stat is so out of context.

Besides proper PnP merchants like Allan, Fred and Neves are also topping that most dribbled stat

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Exonerate1(m): 10:36am On Feb 04, 2022
Jorgiboy Que jugador.. they said he isn't good at breaking lines grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqq60Fq19fo

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:23am On Feb 04, 2022
donjazet:


This kain irrational hate funny die. grin grin
See how hard you are trying to make a world class player look bad. You read that article singing his praises and you just couldn't resist. cheesy

The article clearly says Mancini pushed Veratti and Barella on Rice and Phillips and added Insigne as a false 9 to keep them occupied, leaving Jogginghoe free.

And somehow that translates to "Jogginghoe dominated" according to Exonerate1

It is in keeping with all our criticism of Jogginghoe, that he is only seen when unmarked, but as soon as he's matched up man-o e man-o, he turns to Bakayoko

The article didn't say anything refreshing. I made the same observation here in the Belgium and England games who played 3-4-3 without a direct opponent for Jogginghoe. The real story is in the Spain game where they put Pedri on him and the belle-face playmaker turned into a water carrier, dropping 30 passes in 120 minutes.

I'm a Chelsea fan, couldn't care less about the tactical specifics of a couple of games in Euros, all I know is that in Chelsea, he very often faces a match-up in the EPL, and will continue to do so, and is useless under pressure costing us points.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:32am On Feb 04, 2022
Exonerate1:


How he engages is quite irrelevant here I'm just saying the stat is so out of context.

Besides proper PnP merchants like Allan, Fred and Neves are also topping that most dribbled stat

Neves is a sluggish type

Allan and Fred play in the two most open midfields in the EPL along with Norwich. Being dribbled is also a function of how much space is between players, as opponents only attempt dribbles when there's space to run into without having to run into another opposition player.

Chelsea midfield and defence are close together, so there is no reason for Jogginghoe to be being dribbled upandan except for the fact he can't use his body and can't keep up with a dribbler in just 5 yards of space. You need 10 to 20 yards of space to dribble Fred on a normal day which opponents get against United given the huge space between their back 6 and front 4.

How Jogginghoe engages is also important cos you don't know where the ball willl land after a tackle. A tackle turns the loose ball into a 50:50. A player with body strength keeps the ball for his team using his body, Jogginghoe will jump into tackle for ball he is favourite for, and ball could land anywhere, increasing the risk to his team as opposed to a player who use his body to control the situation

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 11:41am On Feb 04, 2022
Exonerate1:
Jorgiboy Que jugador.. they said he isn't good at breaking lines grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqq60Fq19fo
80% of the things they said Jorginho can do. He is doing it

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 11:44am On Feb 04, 2022
Ibime:


The article clearly says Mancini pushed Veratti and Barella on Rice and Phillips and added Insigne as a false 9 to keep them occupied, leaving Jogginghoe free.

And somehow that translates to "Jogginghoe dominated" according to Exonerate1

It is in keeping with all our criticism of Jogginghoe, that he is only seen when unmarked, but as soon as he's matched up man-o e man-o, he turns to Bakayoko

The article didn't say anything refreshing. I made the same observation here in the Belgium and England games who played 3-4-3 without a direct opponent for Jogginghoe. The real story is in the Spain game where they put Pedri on him and the belle-face playmaker turned into a water carrier, dropping 30 passes in 120 minutes.

I'm a Chelsea fan, couldn't care less about the tactical specifics of a couple of games in Euros, all I know is that in Chelsea, he very often faces a match-up in the EPL, and will continue to do so, and is useless under pressure costing us points.
your metrics for mildfield dominance is high volume of pass. Which he delivered efficiently

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:48am On Feb 04, 2022
lordfalcao:
your metrics for mildfield dominance is high volume of pass. Which he delivered efficiently

I'm responsible for what I type, not what you understand. High volume is Jogginghoe and players of his type metric, I won't use the same metric to judge other midfielders. I will use the metric against him to show he is a fake at it when faced with opponents press that turns him into Bakayoko level of pass volume though. Why, because the real version of playmakers don't turn into Bakayoko at the sight of Bissouma pressing them. Not even Busquet will go into his shell, talkless of Xavi and co.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 11:53am On Feb 04, 2022
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 12:15pm On Feb 04, 2022
Ibime:


I'm responsible for what I type, not what you understand. High volume is Jogginghoe and players of his type metric, I won't use the same metric to judge other midfielders. I will use the metric against him to show he is a fake at it when faced with opponents press that turns him into Bakayoko level of pass volume though. Why, because the real version of playmakers don't turn into Bakayoko at the sight of Bissouma pressing them. Not even Busquet will go into his shell, talkless of Xavi and co.
it’s no longer for general mildfield but for Jorginho type of player metrics..

You clearly said in this thread, that you rate mildfield dominance with high volume of pass of a mildfielder. You never said it’s for Jorginho type of play, players.

So why do you compare passing stat of bissoma and Jorginho or hojberg and Jorginho. When they are not the same type of player,

You are referencing xavi and co that play in the highest possession based team in the world, where they recycle lots of passes in the mildfield amongst themselves against Jorginho who is the sole recycler in mildfield for his own team

Let’s see how mildfielders like hojberg have fared in the passing game when pressed

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