I noticed that some people are just totally against USA. I don't really understand their reason.

Why supporting Russia that wants to trample on Ukraines Sovereignty and against USA that is fighting for their right.

Isn't Ukraine an independent nation? Is it not a choice to belong to any Union ? It is just like South Africa telling Ghana that they don't want them in any Alliance with Nigeria. How does that sound? Do Ghana answer to South Africa?

In this recent time,Russia is on a verge of invading an independent country because the country decided to handle it's affairs on its own.

Someone should clarify me here. Isn't it a matter Russia would have discussed with Ukraine or threatening Ukraine with sanctions (cutting trade deals with them) instead of invading. Does it mean that Russia is going to invade all European countries crushing their independence just to halt USAs influence in Europe?

Mynd44 lalasticlala seun

Precious911:
I noticed that some people are just totally against USA. I don't really understand their reason.



Someone should clarify me here. Isn't it a matter Russia would have discussed with Ukraine or threatening Ukraine with sanctions (cutting trade deals with them) instead of invading. Does it mean that Russia is going to invade all European countries crushing their independence just to halt USAs influence in Europe?

Mynd44 lalasticlala seun

I believe Putin is just using the whole invasion threat to catch cruise and put the US on their toes ... There will be no invasion.

dawnomike:
I believe Putin is just using the whole invasion threat to catch cruise and put the US on their toes ... There will be no invasion.

And if he invades?

dawnomike:
I believe Putin is just using the whole invasion threat to catch cruise and put the US on their toes ... There will be no invasion.

But I've noticed that a lot of Nigerians in Africa really support the invasion but will never support such on Nigerians. Why are some Nigerians so irrational? Maybe that is the reason why we are like this in 2022.

When i look at poor Ukraine with their poor volunteer Army, I just pity them. If not for USA sanctions, democracy and freedom they encourage countries to emulate, by now we would have been in 5th world war while Russia rakes billions upon billions in selling weapons.

Do you know that Ebola virus is a Bio weapon developed in Russia Lab and disposed in Africa? That is how wicked these Russians you are supporting can be

Russia has outstanding business with Ukraine
China has outstanding business with Hong Kong and Taiwan

Now's the best time to accelerate the reunions.

US should face their side - go invade Canada or Mexico.

Putin saw how Biden ran away from Afghanistan and thought, "well, well, well,..."

NwaNimo1:
Russia has outstanding business with Ukraine
China has outstanding business with Hong Kong and Taiwan

Now's the best time to accelerate the reunions.

US should face their side - go invade Canada or Mexico.

US believes in freedom. Unless Canada wants to become part of USA, they will remain independent.

If USA wants Canada, They will speak not invade.

Sometimes I wondered how things would have been if Hitler won that war .

By now, countries like Nigeria will be forcefully working, while countries like Germany will be lavishly spending. They wouldn't need your opinion to lift your resources. Everything would have belonged to the Reich.

If US wouldn't allow Russia to install missile defense system in Cuba or Venezuela why should Russia now allow them to install thesame on their border country (Ukraine)? This is a question of equality, equity and mutual respect. With the way the western powers have been ramping up troops and weapons in Ukraine, now we know who the true aggressor is. Whoever is urging this western powers towards a war with Russia must be the devil himself. This is pure suicide!

dialfa:
Putin saw how Biden ran away from Afghanistan and thought, "well, well, well,..."

This might also Be a moral booster for Russia

Precious911:


But I've noticed that a lot of Nigerians in Africa really support the invasion but will never support such on Nigerians. Why are some Nigerians so irrational? Maybe that is the reason why we are like this in 2022.

When i look at poor Ukraine with their poor volunteer Army, I just pity them. If not for USA sanctions, democracy and freedom they encourage countries to emulate, by now we would have been in 5th world war while Russia rakes billions upon billions in selling weapons.

Do you know that Ebola virus is a Bio weapon developed in Russia Lab and disposed in Africa? That is how wicked these Russians you are supporting can be

Because Nigerians here are hypocritical dumbasses.

funshint:
If US wouldn't allow Russia to install missile defense system in Cuba or Venezuela why should Russia now allow them to install thesame on their border country (Ukraine)? This is a question of equality, equity and mutual respect. With the way the western powers have been ramping up troops and weapons in Ukraine, now we know who the true aggressor is. Whoever is urging this western powers towards a war with Russia must be the devil himself. This is pure suicide!

mynd44

I have been hearing this Cuba for a long time, but still no one has been able to make a point

My question is, Did USA threaten these countries with War if they allow Russia? Isn't it based on negotiations that USA was able to convince them? [b]

Compare those two situation, you will see that it doesn't add up. Ukraines decided to tilt towards USA is because they saw more enticing deals. Russia has nothing else than war on a sovereign nation. You reason am now.

Just imagine South Africa going to war with Nigeria because Nigeria wants to Join ECOWAS.

Those weapons shipped into Ukraine is just for them to protect their independence.

But, you guys always feel tingling joy when World powers donate billions of dollars and even Equipments to Nigeria to Fight Boko Haram that threatens the country's sovereignty but will condemn USA for doing so to Ukraine. Na wa o.

Precious911:
I noticed that some people are just totally against USA. I don't really understand their reason.



Someone should clarify me here. Isn't it a matter Russia would have discussed with Ukraine or threatening Ukraine with sanctions (cutting trade deals with them) instead of invading. Does it mean that Russia is going to invade all European countries crushing their independence just to halt USAs influence in Europe?

Mynd44 lalasticlala seun

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Majority of people supporting Russia are from a particular region, but they prefer to travel to USA to enjoy the good life. Why don't they choose Russia? Those kind of people are the ones electing wicked leaders in Nigeria.

funshint:
If US wouldn't allow Russia to install missile defense system in Cuba or Venezuela why should Russia now allow them to install thesame on their border country (Ukraine)? This is a question of equality, equity and mutual respect. With the way the western powers have been ramping up troops and weapons in Ukraine, now we know who the true aggressor is. Whoever is urging this western powers towards a war with Russia must be the devil himself. This is pure suicide!

If Russia wasn't such a dic*k to Ukraine, maybe all this wouldn't have happened! Russia had been messing with Ukraine for quite a while, and Ukraine decided that it wants to join NATO, and you know NATO has certain charters in their rule book to Bleep up any invading force. Shouldn't Ukraine not be allowed to join NATO, afterall the are a sorveign nation.

NwaNimo1:
Russia has outstanding business with Ukraine
China has outstanding business with Hong Kong and Taiwan

Now's the best time to accelerate the reunions.

US should face their side - go invade Canada or Mexico.

Ukraine does not want to be part of Russia
Hong Kong, Tibet and Taiwan detest mainland China, so much so that the are willing to drag the rest of the world to war just so that they will not be part of China.
And all these countries ran under the protection of UK and US to make sure that they don't get invaded by their enemies. And the US is only fulfilling its duties as allies of those nations.
I wonder why Nigerians are hypocrites... If Cameroon invaded Nigeria tomorrow, you mumus will be the first to cry foul!

Tmberwolf1:

Ukraine does not want to be part of Russia
Hong Kong, Tibet and Taiwan detest mainland China, so much so that the are willing to drag the rest of the world to war just so that they will not be part of China.
And all these countries ran under the protection of UK and US to make sure that they don't get invaded by their enemies. And the US is only fulfilling its duties as allies of those nations.
I wonder why Nigerians are hypocrites... If Cameroon invaded Nigeria tomorrow, you mumus will be the first to cry foul!

I tire for Nigerians.

Sometimes I wonder if the wickedness of some Nigerians were specially designed

Precious911:


I tire for Nigerians.

Sometimes I wonder if the wickedness of some Nigerians were specially designed

It's an ungodly mix of wickedness, ignorance and sheer stupidity.

They are all from a particular region. They are still annoyed Biden defeated their god Trump, who promised Nnamdi Cownu Biafra.

Nonpartisan1:
They are all from a particular region. They are still annoyed Biden defeated their god Trump, who promised Nnamdi Cownu Biafra.

Don't distract the thread please. I am an Igbo man too that is wondering what sort of humans are in Nigeria.

osystein, HumbledbYGrace, mukina2

Mods, front page abeg

Nonpartisan1:
They are all from a particular region. They are still annoyed Biden defeated their god Trump, who promised Nnamdi Cownu Biafra.

Please how old are you? And when would you grow up to maturity

miketyler:



Please how old are you? And when would you grow up to maturity

The truth is bitter

Precious911:


mynd44

I have been hearing this Cuba for a long time, but still no one has been able to make a point

My question is, Did USA threaten these countries with War if they allow Russia? Isn't it based on negotiations that USA was able to convince them? [b]

Compare those two situation, you will see that it doesn't add up. Ukraines decided to tilt towards USA is because they saw more enticing deals. Russia has nothing else than war on a sovereign nation. You reason am now.

Just imagine South Africa going to war with Nigeria because Nigeria wants to Join ECOWAS.

Those weapons shipped into Ukraine is just for them to protect their independence.

But, you guys always feel joy when World powers donate billions of dollars and even Equipments to Nigeria to Fight Boko Haram that threatens the country's sovereignty but will condemn USA for doing so to Ukraine. Na wa o.

Russia doesn't care if Ukraine grow economic ties with the West. But it doesn't want Ukraine to join NATO. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was created in 1949 by the United States, Canada, and several Western European nations to provide collective security against the Soviet Union. NATO is an enemy of Russia, Russian border with Ukraine is very huge and if there is a war between US/NATO and Russia, US/NATO will likely launch attack on Russia from Ukraine. Infact every invasion that Russia witnessed in the past came through Ukraine. The Mongols invaded Russia through Ukraine. Likewise the Germans. For Russia it is not about resurrecting it's lost empire. It lost empire can not be reagained. The baltic states are now part of NATO. So it is a matter of security.

Russia is trying to pressure Ukraine not to join NATO & also pressure the West not to accept Ukraine proposal and the tactics is working. The building up of troops along Russian border with Ukraine occur when Ukraine was preparing to launch attack on the pro-Russia seperatists in Ukraine region of Donetsk & Luansk. Ukraine carried out a drone attack on the seperatists, using Turkish drone. This prompt Russia to respond. Russia will not attack if the seperatists are not attacked. But if Ukraine decides to take back those regions then Russia will attack.

Russia is just trying to put itself in a position that will give her a fair chance to fight back if war breaks out between itself & US/NATO in the future. The US will do the same. Imagine if Mexico decides to form military alliance with China. To the US, China is a threat already. China is a threat to US only because its growing economic & military strengths will surpass the US, if nothing is done to stop it.

Precious911:


mynd44

I have been hearing this Cuba for a long time, but still no one has been able to make a point

My question is, Did USA threaten these countries with War if they allow Russia? Isn't it based on negotiations that USA was able to convince them? [b]

Compare those two situation, you will see that it doesn't add up. Ukraines decided to tilt towards USA is because they saw more enticing deals. Russia has nothing else than war on a sovereign nation. You reason am now.

Just imagine South Africa going to war with Nigeria because Nigeria wants to Join ECOWAS.

Those weapons shipped into Ukraine is just for them to protect their independence.

But, you guys always feel tingling joy when World powers donate billions of dollars and even Equipments to Nigeria to Fight Boko Haram that threatens the country's sovereignty but will condemn USA for doing so to Ukraine. Na wa o.

During the Cuba crisis. The US threatened to invade Cuba. But she could not invade Cuba because the Soviet Union was strongly behind Cuba. Infact sanctions were placed on Cuba and some of the sanctions have not been lifted till today.

You can not compare ECOWAS with NATO. You can compare ECOWAS with EU. NATO is a military alliance. Ukraine can join EU without having any issue with Russia.

olugabbie:


During the Cuba crisis. The US threatened to invade Cuba. But she could not invade Cuba because the Soviet Union was strongly behind Cuba. Infact sanctions were placed on Cuba and some of the sanctions have not been lifted till today.

You can not compare ECOWAS with NATO. You can compare ECOWAS with EU. NATO is a military alliance. Ukraine can join EU without having any issue with Russia.

Well, these Cuba vs USA started as far back as late 1800s even in mid 1900s when USA masterminded a coup against a government that was against US businesses in Cuba, they did it covertly through CIA.

When International community heard it, John Kennedy had to stop further air force deployment, Soviet Union only came in the picture because the Militias in Cuba needed the support of strong Forces.

USA never threatened Cuba because of Soviet Union but due to they want to overthrow Castro and establish a non-communist government. And all these happened in those dark days.

Mind you, Obama healed this bad relationship and restored the relationship again.

Precious911:


Well, thanks for the explanation but still, i don't see it as being right.

Remember that Nigeria did everything thing possible to quash IPOB seperanists. You are the first am hearing saying that those guys that helped Russia take over Cremean are seperanists because I know they are just terrorists that have Russias backing.

Do you really think that Ukraine is the end of Europe? USA can always attack Russia from other countries it borders. It just doesn't add up to fight a countrys sovereignty because of selfish reason. USA has better things on table than Russia that's why they chose USA. Let Russia be smart and not cause this blood shed they are advocating for

Mynd44

The main stream media (CNN, BBC, Aljazeera, fox news e.t.c) call them seperatists. They don't call them terrorists. You can check. There are a lots of people in Ukraine that are pro-Russia. Ukraine and Russia shares a lots together.

It will be extremely hard to invade Russia through the baltic (Estonia,Poland, Lithuania e.t.c). Logistics will be a serious issue.

Precious911:

Well, these Cuba vs USA started as far back as late 1800s even in mid 1900s when USA masterminded a coup against a government that was against US businesses in Cuba, they did it covertly through CIA.

When International community heard it, John Kennedy had to stop further air force deployment, Soviet Union only came in the picture because the Militias in Cuba needed the support of strong Forces.

USA never threatened Cuba because of Soviet Union but due to they want to overthrow Castro and establish a non-communist government. And all these happened in those dark days.

Mind you, Obama healed this bad relationship and restored the relationship again.

The cuban crisis (16 October – 20 November 1962) confrontation between the United States and the Soviet Union which escalated into an international crisis when American deployments of missiles in Italy and Turkey were matched by Soviet deployments of similar ballistic missiles in Cuba. In response to the presence of American Jupiter ballistic missiles in Italy and Turkey, and the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961, Soviet First Secretary Nikita Khrushchev agreed to Cuba's request to place nuclear missiles on the island to deter a future invasion. An agreement was reached during a secret meeting between Khrushchev and Cuban Prime Minister Fidel Castro in July 1962, and construction of a number of missile launch facilities started later that summer.

A US Air Force U-2 spy plane produced clear photographic evidence of medium-range R-12 (NATO code name SS-4) and intermediate-range R-14 (NATO code name SS-5) ballistic missile facilities in Cuba.

When this was reported to President John F. Kennedy, he then convened a meeting of the nine members of the National Security Council and five other key advisers in a group that became known as the Executive Committee of the National Security Council (EXCOMM). During this meeting, President Kennedy was originally advised to carry out an air strike on Cuban soil in order to compromise Soviet missile supplies, followed by an invasion of the Cuban mainland. After careful consideration, President Kennedy chose a less aggressive course of action to avoid a declaration of war. After consultation with them, Kennedy ordered a naval "quarantine" on October 22 to prevent further missiles from reaching Cuba. By using the term "quarantine" rather than "blockade" (an act of war by legal definition), the United States was able to avoid the implications of a state of war.[4] The US announced it would not permit offensive weapons to be delivered to Cuba and demanded that the weapons already in Cuba be dismantled and returned to the Soviet Union.

After several days of tense negotiations, an agreement was reached between Kennedy and Khrushchev. Publicly, the Soviets would dismantle their offensive weapons in Cuba and return them to the Soviet Union, subject to United Nations verification, in exchange for a US public declaration and agreement to not invade Cuba again. Secretly, the United States agreed that it would dismantle all of the Jupiter MRBMs, which had been deployed in Turkey against the Soviet Union. There has been debate on whether or not Italy was included in the agreement as well. While the Soviets dismantled their missiles, some Soviet bombers remained in Cuba, and the United States kept the Naval quarantine in place until November 20 of that year.

Precious911:


mynd44

I have been hearing this Cuba for a long time, but still no one has been able to make a point

My question is, Did USA threaten these countries with War if they allow Russia? Isn't it based on negotiations that USA was able to convince them? [b]

Compare those two situation, you will see that it doesn't add up. Ukraines decided to tilt towards USA is because they saw more enticing deals. Russia has nothing else than war on a sovereign nation. You reason am now.

Just imagine South Africa going to war with Nigeria because Nigeria wants to Join ECOWAS.

Those weapons shipped into Ukraine is just for them to protect their independence.

But, you guys always feel tingling joy when World powers donate billions of dollars and even Equipments to Nigeria to Fight Boko Haram that threatens the country's sovereignty but will condemn USA for doing so to Ukraine. Na wa o.

Honestly, you ask questions like a dumbass. Why is Cuba still on USA sanctions list?. USA have invaded Cuba through covet operations and failed. Google can help you with that. USA always meddle in other countries way of life and leave them in tatters. Libya comes to mind. Not every country is good with democracy, if USA is truly advocating for democracy and all western nonsense, they should have over thrown the authoritarian regimes of Arab countries starting from Saudi Arabia to the rest, but no as far as you do USA government bidding, even if its again the interest of your country men and women, you are innocent.

Ukraine is former Soviet, and is independent, can join any security alliance as far as USA or UK who has consistently designated Russia as a riverly that must be destroyed, is not part of. Or handing. Hence the NATO Saga. All the European NATO allies doesn't control the activities of NATO in their country. For example
Romania, Poland, Germany etc cannot stop the deployment of USA soldiers in their own country. Is this not an Invision? Do any of these countries have military base in USA?. And NATO Will dictate to their government how to run it's administration. You must obey USA government or face sanctions. So where is the democracy?.

Take a look at what happened in Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, just this few. Its because the government of these countries refused to be USA puppet's and USA demmed it necessary to topple the government. Now these countries are very corrupt, infrastructurally destroyed, their citizens wallow in poverty.

Whatever that is happening in Ukraine today is USA architects. USA and their western allies has plundered Africa. British killings in Africa is non to talk about. How has the Russian federation or even the old Soviet Union attacked Africa?...

Russia is doing everything possible to protect its sovereignty. And millions of people are in support of it. People are no longer decieved by media propaganda.

Ukraine is sovereign. Yes. Just as Cuba.
If America will allow Russia to place their missile systems in cuba. Then Russia Will allow America through NATO to place such systems in Ukraine.

Precious911:

Well, these Cuba vs USA started as far back as late 1800s even in mid 1900s when USA masterminded a coup against a government that was against US businesses in Cuba, they did it covertly through CIA.

When International community heard it, John Kennedy had to stop further air force deployment, Soviet Union only came in the picture because the Militias in Cuba needed the support of strong Forces.

USA never threatened Cuba because of Soviet Union but due to they want to overthrow Castro and establish a non-communist government. And all these happened in those dark days.

Mind you, Obama healed this bad relationship and restored the relationship again.

And trump destroyed the relationship and introduce sanctions again. Destroying Cuban economy. I don't know how you read things. Dame.

Precious911:


Well, thanks for the explanation but still, i don't see it as being right.

Remember that Nigeria did everything thing possible to quash IPOB seperanists. You are the first am hearing saying that those guys that helped Russia take over Cremean are seperanists because I know they are just terrorists that have Russias backing.

Do you really think that Ukraine is the end of Europe? USA can always attack Russia from other countries it borders. It just doesn't add up to fight a countrys sovereignty because of selfish reason. USA has better things on table than Russia that's why they chose USA. Let Russia be smart and not cause this blood shed they are advocating for

Mynd44

Mister, Ukraine can join any organisation like EU. But not NATO. What has been happening has shown that USA and UK has planned to distabilize Russia through Ukraine. And an average Ukrainian Will fight against USA than their blood brother Russia. The Ukrainian government now is USA puppet's and they do whatever ever the USA wants them to do. without question.

Well thank God that Russia is not Libya or Iraq.

By the way Russian army is still inside Russia territory and the so called Western powers and running around shittin in their clothes.

Some European countries like Bulgaria Croatia Hungary even Germany Finland has declared that they have nothing to do with Russia and Ukraine crisis.

Only if Ukraine people will stand up and tell their government that war with their big brother Russia Will amount to Slavic killing Slavic and in the end..its the Slavic people that will pay the price. And makes peace with Russia. Be like Canada to USA. Russia is a world power and must be respected. Ukraine must resist all efforts by UK and USA to use them in power games.

RUSSIA and CHINA like BUSH MEAT PEPPER SOUP. THEY GET IT HOT FROM UKRAINE. US IS BIDDING FOR A TASTE. NATO IS CATCHING O'MICRON VIRUS.