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Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 8:39am On Jan 13, 2022 |
Nisiw365: I am just wondering when your self esteem will actual grow a little bit, you insult us and then you claim our emperor ? Dude, our emperor is not a yoruba, no matter how much you yarri.ba would want him to be, no matter how much you yarrib.a pray for it, no matter how many times you yarrib.a say it. The Oba of Benin is not one of you, accept reality and move on ! Be contempt with your homosexual Oni of ifa and your skin bleaching alafin of oyo. Take some pride in yourselves and stop claiming other people's emperors. It is not because your ancestors were slaves in Brazil that you should just be going around trying to steal the history of a more archiving people: the Edo. Nobody is more Edo than the Oba of Benin, by definition ! It is strange that I even have to say all this. The problem with the yoruba is that they project their lack of self-esteem upon others. The yoruba are mostly Brazilian slaves and the rest of them have a history of being defeated by whomever they fought. That is why illorin which was originally yoruba is led by a Fulani man. You yoruba are trying to project the fact you are a defeated people upon us. Us Edo, we were never defeated except by the British who defeated everybody in what we now call Nigeria and defeated the so called yarr.iba without a fight. Aren't you guys ashamed that your low self-esteemed monarchs all copied the title of the Oba of Benin and started wearing Benin beeds and are claiming the Oba of Benin originated from Ife ? Most of your monarchs used to be under the authority of the Oba of Benin by the way. Also answer this question: Where are the following items: 1) yoruba Republic 2) bight of yoruba 3) British-yoruba war 4) yoruba bronze (Benin has more than 2000 bronzes and of the best quality, Ife has less than ten, and those were dug up and are of little quality, where is oyo bronze ? Where is egba bronze ?) 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 9:02am On Jan 13, 2022 |
Yoruba have such low self-esteem that a statue was dug up and the yoruba monarchs started copying the dress code on that statue. Eventhough nobody knows the status of the person who was represented in that statue, these fools just assume it were a king and started designing "crowns" shaped like the head gear worn by that statue. This is pure madness, yoruba have no history (except their political origin and their slave origin and their subdued status) that is why they invent their history on the go. These guys don't discover their history, they invent it and they keep changing it and adding stuff to it. They keep trying to rewrite Benin's history in order to glorify yoruba. But it won't work ! yarrib.a have been trying to rewrite Benin history for more than 100 years, it has not worked and never will, but these guys will never learn their lessons. Some of the people whom have allowed stupid politicians tag them "yoruba" like the jebu are already denouncing the fakeness of it and claiming their true identity. You can't rewrite the history of a people whose history is eyewitness written and not some fairytales. Benin history is a collection of events written down by eyewitnesses and available in some of the most prestigious libraries in this world. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nisiw365: 9:03am On Jan 13, 2022 |
benidiot in pains. Oba of benin is a yoruba man [quote author=Truthvalue44 post=109326743] I am just wondering when your self esteem will actual grow a little bit, you insult us and then you claim our emperor ? Dude, our emperor is not a yoruba, no matter how much you yarri.ba would want him to be, no matter how much you yarrib.a pray for it, no matter how many times you yarrib.a say it. The Oba of Benin is not one of you, accept reality and move on ! Be contempt with your homosexual Oni of ifa and your skin bleaching alafin of oyo. Take some pride in yourselves and stop claiming other people's emperor's. It is 'ot because your ancestors were slaves in Brazil that you should just be going around trying to steal the history of a more archiving people: the Edo. Nobody is more Edo than the Oba of Benin, by definition ! It is strange that I even have to say all this. The problem with the yoruba is that they project their lack of self-esteem upon others. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 9:33am On Jan 13, 2022 |
Drogunov: It seems you are on drugs. Yoruba is not spoken in the Oba's palace, nor is it spoken in any palace of Benin kingdom. We speak Edo. You yarrib.a just have many crazy claims about us Edo. You guys are obsessed with us...why don't you just stick to your own matters and stop hallucinating about us ? Stop mentioning our name, our monarchy our bronze...talk about yourselves ! 2 Likes |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 9:37am On Jan 13, 2022 |
ariesbull:Reno didn't say what this nairaland topic claims he did. Read the article and you will see that this nairaland topic is putting words on Reno's mouth, also I doubt Reno is a historian. |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nobody: 9:40am On Jan 13, 2022 |
ariesbull:Reno didn't say what this nairaland topic claims he did. Read the article and you will see that this nairaland topic is putting words on Reno's mouth, also I doubt Reno is a historian. Mynd44 seun I call rule 8 on this thread: indeed Reno omokri never made the claim that Benin and yoruba are one contrary to the name of this thread which puts words in Reno's mouth. |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by ariesbull: 9:56am On Jan 13, 2022 |
Dude is an armchair Historian... He can't even visit the place of interest and do simple research.... Such a shame 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by iamuyiekpen(m): 12:48pm On Jan 13, 2022 |
okobo wake up from your foolishness. I’m pure Edo from Orhionmwon & I’m not related to Yoruba people. God forbid. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Drogunov: 4:51pm On Jan 13, 2022 |
You are an Igbo impostor. Otherwise tou would not come here to display this level of ignorance. Its only ab impostor who loves attacking Yorubas on this forum without any link to any meaningful culture, such as the Igbos, that will type this kind of nonsense. Or better still, a mongrel of mixed heritage. So get lost. I don't have your time. Go and do your research and learn quality knowledge. |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by valirex: 5:16pm On Jan 13, 2022 |
Clowns continue your whining online na for nairaland the thing go still finish Ọba ghaa tọ kpẹre isẹ 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Olu317(m): 7:11pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
christistruth01:Kudos. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Olu317(m): 7:19pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
christistruth01:Not aboriginal settlement of different stocks but rather the settlement of people who were related by intermarriages as well harmonising the genealogical bloodline ,which all belonged. Secondly, let me posit here that pioneer Awujale was frankly not an ilari from Oyo. Such as this statement is not correct ,my dear brother. Awujale pioneer ancestors came from Ileife. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by TAO11(f): 9:11pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
christistruth01:No o, my brother. The people didn’t start as different people who later got appeased and united to be same people. That’s a lie from ignorant Yorùbá enemies which they are working hard to make sure that we accept before they finally strike . No, traditional Yorùbá history never says that. Neither does any historical conclusion ever say that. The reality instead is the total complete opposite. The people started out as one & the same ethno-linguistic people (i.e. same ethnic stock — language & culture). And over millenniums, this one giant ethnic stock hav evolved different sub-cultures from their initial one. As such, dialects, sub-groups, etc. was born. ————— Yes, Oduduwa did do some uniting when he managed to rise to prominence in Ife. But those whom he united aren’t different aboriginal groups of people. Rather they are one & the same group of people who have simply evolved different autonomous kingdoms within the Ife bowl. He united these kingdoms into one Ife kingdom with one supreme king. In sum: What Ooduwa united is Not Different PEOPLE, but Different KINGDOMS of same people of Ife. Yes this simply happened in Ife — prior to when the different other kingdom-founding migrations sprang out from Ife to other parts of Yorubaland and beyond. The Awujale of Ijebu was an Ilari sent from Oyo by an Alaafin to Settle a Land disputeThis is an account documented by Johnson about the “Awujalẹ” title. Johnson didn’t get this from the Ijebu-Odes themselves. This is an account from Ọyọ which emerged at the height of Ọyọ’s power in the 1600s & the 1700s. In fact, the Ijebus have a completely different account of their own roots [and of the “Awujalẹ” title] which is older than Johnson’s documentation. In all, no Ijebu account talks of them as being of Oyo roots. They have something else to say from the very beginnings. For example: Marie D’Avezac writings (published in 1845) shows the Ijebu account of their direct Ife roots. W Stanley Hern’s Report (collected from Ijebu-Ode at the turn of the 1800s & published 1906) states clearly that Ijebu-Ode was founded directly from Ife. The local historian, D. O. Epega also documented this tradition of the Ijebu-Ode people in his 1919 work, and it states clearly that Ijebu-Ode was founded directly from Ife. In a joint publication of 1927 by Osinyemi, Banjo, and Osopale (on Ijebu-Igbo, the brother kingdom), it is also mentioned clearly that Ijebu-Ode was founded directly from Ife. In another document on Ijebu-Mushin (which is also a brother kingdom in the area) from 1933, it is also clearly mentioned that Ijebu-Ode was founded directly from Ife. The record of proceedings of the first conference of Yoruba monarchs held in 1937 not only shows the then Awujale in attendance, it also states that Ife was the hometown from where their ancestors sprang out originally. In late 1936, the British had decided a “strange” move which would generate a political reaction from Ijebu-Ode — one Ijebu-Ode man to be precise. They decided to administer Ijebu-Remo as a separate local government authority. It was this move that led to the birth of a Wadai/Sudan tale in the private paper of Chief T. A. Fowakan in 1937. This tale was unheard of by the people prior to 1937. It was borne out in the context of politics and it is not rooted in the ancient tradition of the people. In fact, it must have taken its leverage from Johnson’s Yoruba origin story which he ties to that same region of the world; contrary to the ancient Yoruba account which clearly says that we are autochthonous to this land. BTW, this ancient Yorùbá account had been put to writing app. 1 century before Johnson’s publication. ————— In sum, we have seen that the tradition of Oyo origin is not found in Ijebu-Ode account from beginning till this moment. We have also seen that the tradition of Ife origin is the ancient and consistent Ijebu-Ode account originally. We have seen that the tale of (Wadai) Sudan origin is the one which was later invented in relatively recent time; and in the context of colonial politics. BTW, all the other Ijebu kingdoms (from beginning to the end) have not tampered with their own account. It still remains at is it from the beginning. Ijebu, Owu, Ijesha Ekiti,Ilaje,Akoko were all Ugbo aborigines now all are the same YorubasWhat specifically do you mean here? That they were originally from Ugboland in the Ilaje area? And if that’s what you mean, then please show some reputable sources for it. Bottomline is Ooni of Ife is the Father of the Present Yoruba Kings include the Oba of Benin and AlaafinOh sure. Cheers. 16 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by nisai: 10:15pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
TAO11:Well done. Some times i no dey understand christ oo. 1 Like |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by christistruth01: 10:38pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
nisai: Christistruth01 not Christ There were 13 autonomous Ugbo Settlements at Ife that Oduduwa United with his own followers into one CC Tao11 |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by TAO11(f): 12:28am On Jan 18, 2022 |
christistruth01: You’re using names (e.g. “Ugbo”) in such a way that the actual context is absent; and that may unintentionally mislead your readers. So, the “13” autonomous settlements have names, i.e Ido, Iloromu, Odin, Iloran, Oke-Awo, Oke-Oja, Parakin, Imojubi, Ideta, Iraye, Omologun, Ijugbe, and Iwinrin. The name “Ugbo” originally applies to the collective of the people; and not their kingdoms whose names are listed above. The collective name of the people simply signify that they are olden, ancient, aged, etc. from the root word gbo as can also be seen in arugbo, ogbo, etc. It is from this name that the later form “Ugbo” of the Ilaje derive its name — not the other way round. In fact, there is an Ife tradition that a faction from the Iwinrin group didn’t return to Ife once dislodged with others who returned. An Ugbo-Ilaje tradition also exists along the lines that they were dislodged from Ife and never returned. I hope this throw some light, @nisai Cheers. 15 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Denoh68: 11:17am On Feb 07, 2022 |
I JUST TIRE, THESE GREEDY YOLOBAS SEF Philistine: |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Denoh68: 11:18am On Feb 07, 2022 |
OYA GO AND GRAB LAND THERE, GREEDY LAND GRABBERS Nisiw365: |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Denoh68: 11:22am On Feb 07, 2022 |
THE DAY I WILL CATCH YOU AROUND RINGROAD EHN, NA OVIA RIVER YOU GO END UP, THIEF VEHINTOLAR 1post=109171540: |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Denoh68: 11:23am On Feb 07, 2022 |
THE DAY I WILL CATCH YOU AROUND RINGROAD EHN, NA OVIA RIVER YOU GO END UP, VEHINTOLAR 1post=109171540: |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nisiw365: 11:25am On Feb 07, 2022 |
Denoh68:nonesense. Oba of benin is a yoruba man |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Denoh68: 11:27am On Feb 07, 2022 |
TELL THEM, MAKE THEM COME NAH, NA FOR OVIA RIVER THEM GO END UP
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Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Denoh68: 7:23am On Feb 08, 2022 |
TELL THEM, THEY WANT TO GRAB OUR LAND. Dartilo: |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Denoh68: 7:24am On Feb 08, 2022 |
WEREEEE,COME,NA FOR OVIA RIVER YOU GO END. Nisiw365: |
Re: Why Bini And Yorubas Are One, The Connection Between Them -Reno Omokri by Nisiw365: 7:28am On Feb 08, 2022 |
Denoh68:Benidiot in pains 1 Like |
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