drealbenard:


We may need to spend, but only on those who have chosen us.

DaniWhizbang:


I think most of them still don't get it. You want a submissive feminine wife but don't want to take up the full responsibility that comes with being masculine.

My elder bro is 3 yrs into his marriage with a kid and there's no atom of noise or quarrel in his union. Mind you, this is someone I consider redpill judging by his days of excapade with women.

Now, he takes full responsibility in his home. Provides financially and handles all masculine tasks. His wife is practically a sit at home wife who does virtually all feminine tasks like washing, cleaning, cooking even when she's fully pregnant. He recently got her a maid due to her pregnancy. Girl is at peace with everyone in our family unlike my other brothers wives.

Now people will say she might not truly love him that it's because of the material stuff she's gaining and I don't doubt it because we've established that women are not capable of love but what is the essence of you being a man if you can't perform your masculine tasks of providing for your family?

If you're an intending patriarch, make sure to fix yourself up financially and otherwise. This can't be stressed enough.

Modified: Girl was 23 when he married her and I spent 2 years plus with them before moving out.

Calibrator:
Seems like some people have Permanent Residency in Anger Mode.



They can't reconcile the recent redpill enlightening knowledge with the bluepill conditioning they have been receiving all their life.


Redpill did not dictate nor encourage emnity towards the female gender.


Don't hate the player, hate the game.
We are all playing the hands we are dealt to survive- Females inclusive

If you want to vent, direct your aggression at mother nature.

ubunja:
the next question is, Do we then spend? And if we spend don't we become blue pill? Or how do we spend in such a way we don't simp. Or how do we get women to spend without us losing our masculinity. So many questions...

Calibrator:
As we are trying to avoid manipulations from the opposite sex, we should also be wary of guys who have their priorities messed up.

One NFA guy I know who is partially divorced with no accommodation nor stable job to his name, instead of him to double his hustle and think of how to retrieve his supposed two kids his cheating exwife is hoarding from him.

At his age, he is still posting girls photos online and attaching encomiums like a teenager, this evening he called me that he invited his girlfriend who lives in another state over and they both want to spend the night in my apartment.

I asked him if he forgot to add lodging expenses to his budget before deeming himself worthy of hosting a guest. People that have spare money to waste are running from relationships because of unnecessary expenses, a jobless fowl is refusing to have sense.

I am really vexed right now!

luminouz:


Ok...try and get her phone...then go to her WhatsApp and open her barcode....scan the barcode with your own WhatsApp scanner. It is advisable you use a laptop for this (you will install WhatsApp on your PC) or Google Chrome. Once you scan her barcode successfully, then, her message will be popping up on your PC WhatsApp or your Google Chrome browser.

ubunja:
Redpillers are loathe to spend on a woman and to support her financially, yet detest a self- supporting financially Independent woman because she's carrying a lot of masculine energy. If I was a woman in today's world I wouldn't even know how to deal with manosphere men. Cause, be dependent it's a crime. Be independent it's a crime. Damned if you do, damned of you don't.

If a woman has to pay her part cause you don't want to, then expect her to come standard with masculine energy. That's the nature of money and financial independence.

Now where exactly is the disconnect in the redpill? It has to be found and fixed.

Cause at this point there's merit in what these women are complaining about...

demmymoney:


CONFIRM!!!!!

MEN ARE USED
WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE LOVED

UR BROTHER GET SENSE ABEG!

ubunja:
so what's the way forward,, how do we reconcile femininity with working women.

ProphetJeroboam:
You’re setting yourself up for potential ridicule if you’re dm’ing chicks on Instagram and tiktok unless you can circumvent around their bullshit. They literally have “followers”. I know a girl with 15K followers on IG but she’s always moving around with sunglasses and nose mask on, conversation skills is trash Irl.

tiswell:
Google chrome on PC or phone?

ubunja:
Redpillers are loathe to spend on a woman and to support her financially, yet detest a self- supporting financially Independent woman because she's carrying a lot of masculine energy. If I was a woman in today's world I wouldn't even know how to deal with manosphere men. Cause, be dependent it's a crime. Be independent it's a crime. Damned if you do, damned of you don't.

If a woman has to pay her part cause you don't want to, then expect her to come standard with masculine energy. That's the nature of money and financial independence.

Now where exactly is the disconnect in the redpill? It has to be found and fixed.

Cause at this point there's merit in what these women are complaining about...

luminouz:

Phone. Easier to carry around

ubunja:
so what's the way forward,, how do we reconcile femininity with working women.

Lordcassy:


I am highly disappointed some men still regard other men that do not want their wife to work as Insecure...Jesus talk about a low value guy...

Ubanja do not mind them..
If you do not want your wife not to work, that is perfectly okay, as far as you are a high value guy and you give her kids to keep her busy...Having kids is important here...you can't have just one child and expect her not to get bored

If you want your wife to work, then you have to posses a very strong frame, she has to see you as the prize and you have to be a high value man...because if you just a normal guy and your wife is constantly working with high value guys, guess what she is going to bring home in low quantity...nagging and disrespect and you can not demand 100% feminity from her and fully assert your will...

If she must work like I tell my friend...let her work for you...open a business for yourself and let go work there for commission...

If you want to open a boutique for your girlfriend like an idiot...do not...open a boutique for yourself and let her work there, let the staff respect her...if she mess up...collect your resources back...

This is the REDPILL

Lordcassy:


I am highly disappointed some men still regard other men that do not want their wife to work as Insecure...Jesus talk about a low value guy...

Ubanja do not mind them..
If you do not want your wife not to work, that is perfectly okay, as far as you are a high value guy and you give her kids to keep her busy...Having kids is important here...you can't have just one child and expect her not to get bored

If you want your wife to work, then you have to posses a very strong frame, she has to see you as the prize and you have to be a high value man...because if you just a normal guy and your wife is constantly working with high value guys, guess what she is going to bring home in low quantity...nagging and disrespect and you can not demand 100% feminity from her and fully assert your will...

If she must work like I tell my friend...let her work for you...open a business for yourself and let go work there for commission...

If you want to open a boutique for your girlfriend like an idiot...do not...open a boutique for yourself and let her work there, let the staff respect her...if she mess up...collect your resources back...

This is the REDPILL

ubunja:
Redpillers are loathe to spend on a woman and to support her financially, yet detest a self- supporting financially Independent woman because she's carrying a lot of masculine energy. If I was a woman in today's world I wouldn't even know how to deal with manosphere men. Cause, be dependent it's a crime. Be independent it's a crime. Damned if you do, damned of you don't.

If a woman has to pay her part cause you don't want to, then expect her to come standard with masculine energy. That's the nature of money and financial independence.

Now where exactly is the disconnect in the redpill? It has to be found and fixed.

Cause at this point there's merit in what these women are complaining about...

Junnior:


What kind of woman exactly should men settle for? The financially dependent or independent woman?

Lordcassy:


I am highly disappointed some men still regard other men that do not want their wife to work as Insecure...Jesus talk about a low value guy...

Ubanja do not mind them..
If you do not want your wife not to work, that is perfectly okay, as far as you are a high value guy and you give her kids to keep her busy...Having kids is important here...you can't have just one child and expect her not to get bored

If you want your wife to work, then you have to posses a very strong frame, she has to see you as the prize and you have to be a high value man...because if you just a normal guy and your wife is constantly working with high value guys, guess what she is going to bring home in low quantity...nagging and disrespect and you can not demand 100% feminity from her and fully assert your will...

If she must work like I tell my friend...let her work for you...open a business for yourself and let go work there for commission...

If you want to open a boutique for your girlfriend like an idiot...do not...open a boutique for yourself and let her work there, let the staff respect her...if she mess up...collect your resources back...

This is the REDPILL

ubunja:
the next question is, Do we then spend? And if we spend don't we become blue pill? Or how do we spend in such a way we don't simp. Or how do we get women to spend without us losing our masculinity. So many questions...

Smartb0y:

That's an individual question you should ask yourself.
You know the pros and cons associated with both, it's left for you to choose.

Smartb0y:


In cases like these, there are no absolute.
This is where individual effort comes into play you know, fighting against your very nature to be a better person even though people don't really change.
Suppressing one's nature is easier said than done.

For us guys,we live fighting our polygamous nature.
For women, it's their hypergamy.

There always has to be a balance and this is it, we can't eat our cake and still have it.

Working class female = masculine
Stay at home female = feminine

It is what it is ,we all just gotta choose our poison wisely and live with it

DaniWhizbang:


Lol that's the way it should be. It might sound harsh for most men but that's the reality. If you're not ready to sacrifice part of your time, finance and peace of mind aka "MEAT" then getting married should be the last thing on your list.

In those few years I spent with them, I was able to understand what it feels like to be a man. It ain't easy

Someoneschild2:




Took us long enough to talk about this. Since I began to learn about these things, I have loved the traditional way of things. I am no fan of career women because there are too many cons.

My submission is to be chosen and the said lady will have to fit the traditional spec. of women(virgins, submission......, etc). This way, the power remains with the man as he's not so much invested.

As for being a provider, that will happen after these criteria have been met.


My thoughts

Someoneschild2:




Took us long enough to talk about this. Since I began to learn about these things, I have loved the traditional way of things. I am no fan of career women because there are too many cons.

My submission is to be chosen and the said lady will have to fit the traditional spec. of women(virgins, submission......, etc). This way, the power remains with the man as he's not so much invested.

As for being a provider, that will happen after these criteria have been met.


My thoughts

ubunja:
can a man be 100% masculine, and a woman 100% feminine? I don't think that's possible. The genders will always exist on a spectrum of masculine/feminine balance,, with alphas more masculine than feminine and stay-at-home women more feminine than masculine. But both genders will always carry both energies,, just in different concentrations and ratios.
I'm saying this because there are jobs that don't kill a lot of women's femininity, jobs like Nursing. Which happen to nurture women's nurturing nature. And women's nurturing nature is part of their femininity.

ubunja:
very clearly explained.

Now, let's say a woman chooses you who has more money than you. What's the way forward. This is in light of the Rihanna/A$AP thing. And I'm in no way saying A$AP was chosen,, but I'm more focused on the Richer Woman/Poorer Man dynamic.

Personally I don't mind gold digging the women. Using women for money. I actually encourage it. But sustaining a long term relationship under this dynamic is clearly emasculating.
I think I have heard of situations where richer women gave control of a business over to the husband so the wife can rest in her femininity and the man shine in his masculinity. How common is this.