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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:46am On Feb 16, 2022
Kenya uses it to validate and verify their estimates. I dont question data from South Africa or Morocco. But clearly your crazy figures starting from agricluture is questionable.

Always remember GDP is an estimation of the size of economy.

Pseudo-data - are things are how many cars did Nigeria import versus Kenya - cement consumption - money supply (M1, M2, M3) - etc etc

theenchanter:
who used pseudodata? U? Would u even believe ur self on such? grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:46am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
Remove the patriotic blinkers and it staring at you.
Name any index - you're at best equal to Kenya or twice.
Total Bank asset - 110B dollars - versus 55B.
Cement consumption - 18-21 - versus 8-10m tonnes
The stuff you cannot rig like estimating agriculture - you're again at best twice as big as kenya.
In many areas your economy is below kenya -
Give and take - your economy is about 200-220B - not 400B.
Our total financial sector was 122.3 trillion naira, (293 billion dollars) as at 2019. Our banking sector was 42.6 trillion naira from that, and then 53.3 trillion in 2020. Can you give me the records for the total financial sector of Kenya (which includes fintech)?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:48am On Feb 16, 2022
Forget about crap from Nigeria stats office.
Those ar ediiots who estimate that Nollywood and such nonsense were big part of your economy smiley
Give me the figures from your Central Bank.
Total Bank Assets
Money Supply - M1, M2, M3
GeneralDae:

Our total financial sector was 122.3 trillion naira, (293 billion dollars) as at 2019. Our banking sector was 42.6 trillion naira from that. Can you give me the records for the total financial sector of Kenya (which includes fintech)?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 9:49am On Feb 16, 2022
GeneralDae:

Huge population as arguement wouldn't make sense in this instance because we are talking % of GDP here. If anything it should favour Kenya in this instance.

We are talking percentage of the so called overestimated GDP. Even by exports as a percentage of GDP, we are higher. By PMI (which is used to check manufacturing growth), we are better on average. Lagos alone with about 30 million people has almost thesame number of registered companies as the entire Kenya. So definitely, I don't know what this thread is all about and where the pride comes from. It's not even an arguement, not even close.
u don't understand Kenyans psyche. When they argue and they're not favoured by the argument, the resort to "it's ur huge population" mantra. Like is it huge population that asked Kenya to have the same registered company with Lagos, a state in Nigeria?

But when it gets to "per Capita" things or "number of people living in poverty" things, it's not about population again, but the dysfunction of the country.

Werey ni won na. grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:51am On Feb 16, 2022
They are both valid arguments. The South African has been trying to ramp through your thick head and you dont get it. If we compare ourself to Rwanda - with about 1/5 of our populaton - we might beat them everywhere - or even Mauritus - or Botswana - but everyone knows in some aspect they are miles ahead.
theenchanter:
u don't understand Kenyans psyche. When they argue and they're not favoured by the argument, the resort to "it's ur huge population" mantra. Like is it huge population that asked Kenya to have the same registered company with Lagos, a state in Nigeria?

But when it gets to "per Capita" things or "number of people living in poverty" things, it's not about population again, but the dysfunction of the country.

Werey ni won na. grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 9:52am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
Kenya uses it to validate and verify their estimates. I dont question data from South Africa or Morocco. But clearly your crazy figures starting from agricluture is questionable.

Always remember GDP is an estimation of the size of economy.

Pseudo-data - are things are how many cars did Nigeria import versus Kenya - cement consumption - money supply (M1, M2, M3) - etc etc

ur cement consumption rate is roughly 5m, Nigeria's cement consumption rate is roughly 21m.

When it comes to imported cars, I don't want to believe u'll want to ply that route..... With money supply ratio.

don't start what u can't finish and stop projecting ur stupidity here.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:52am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
Forget about crap from Nigeria stats office.
Those ar ediiots who estimate that Nollywood and such nonsense were big part of your economy smiley
Give me the figures from your Central Bank.
Total Bank Assets
Money Supply - M1, M2, M3
Now you are lying. No Nigerian stats office state that nollywood is a big part of the economy. Nollywood has always been known to be 1% of the economy.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 9:53am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
They are both valid arguments. The South Africa has been trying to ramp through your thick head and you dont get it.
they're only valid when it favour u but invalid when it doesn't is my point.

U can see the jinn called another country "tiny" simply because they have bigger GDP per Capita than them.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:54am On Feb 16, 2022
See you want to lie so shamelessly like a typical Nigeria. Kenya half year - six month - cement consumption that you quoted was nearly 5M. That mean end of year it will be 10M.

Al-majiri graduate just concentrate on heckling - you cannot win an intellectual argument here.

theenchanter:
ur cement consumption rate is roughly 5m, Nigeria's cement consumption rate is roughly 21m.

When it comes to imported cars, I don't want to believe u'll want to ply that route..... With money supply ratio.

don't start what u can't finish and stop projecting ur stupidity here.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:55am On Feb 16, 2022
They are valid all the time. You not only have to beat us - but you have to beat us 4 times - to be ahead. To merely beat us - is not good enough. Unless you are happy with just enough. If you're building roads - I expect you to do 4 times more. If you are building schools - I expect to see 4 times more - just to reach our level.
theenchanter:
they're only valid when it favour u but invalid when it doesn't is my point.

U can see the jinn called another country "tiny" simply because they have bigger GDP per Capita than them.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 9:57am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
You missed in first-half of the year. Times two those figures.
post it. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:58am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
See you want to lie so shamelessly like a typical Nigeria. Kenya half year - six month - cement consumption that you quoted was nearly 5M. That mean end of year it will be 10M.

Al-majiri graduate just concentrate on heckling - you cannot win an intellectual argument here.

Kenyan cement consumption and production was 3.5 million and 3.3 million in the first half of 2021, not 5 million.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:59am On Feb 16, 2022
Last year but one it was 8.5M. Last year it will top 10M. We are expecting the final figures of 2021 anytime soon. But we already know half year we were nearly at 5m.
theenchanter:
post it. grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:00am On Feb 16, 2022
Why waste time with Kenya figures when I have them on my finger tips.
GeneralDae:

Kenyan cement consumption and production was 3.5 million and 3.3 million in the first half of 2021, not 5 million.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 10:01am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
They are valid all the time. You not only have to beat us - but you have to beat us 4 times - to be ahead. To merely beat us - is not good enough. Unless you are happy with just enough. If you're building roads - I expect you to do 4 times more. If you are building schools - I expect to see 4 times more - just to reach our level.
grin what an argument. By your logic, I could also say if we are poor, we should be 4 times more. If we have unproductive individuals everywhere, we should be 4 times more grin.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:06am On Feb 16, 2022
Precisely to be worse than us - you need to be four times worse - otherwise you'll be better.
GeneralDae:

grin what an argument. By your logic, I could also say if we are poor, we should be 4 times more. If we have unproductive individuals everywhere, we should be 4 times more grin.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 10:06am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
See you want to lie so shamelessly like a typical Nigeria. Kenya half year - six month - cement consumption that you quoted was nearly 5M. That mean end of year it will be 10M.

Al-majiri graduate just concentrate on heckling - you cannot win an intellectual argument here.

but u didn't read where it was stated that "from last year"? That is the report is an 18month data, last year + 1st half.

Ur all time cement consumption record is 6.7m tonnes when u're constructing the nairobi- Mombasa rail line. From the same data. So how can u be consuming more cement than ur highest record?

https://www.constructionkenya.com/2176/cement-consumption-kenya/

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 10:07am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
Last year but one it was 8.5M. Last year it will top 10M. We are expecting the final figures of 2021 anytime soon. But we already know half year we were nearly at 5m.
no, the highest u've ever consumed is 6.7m tonnes, prove me wrong this time.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 10:08am On Feb 16, 2022
theenchanter:
but u didn't read where it was stated that "from last year"? That is the report is an 18month data, last year + 1st half.

Ur all time cement consumption record is 6.7m tonnes when u're constructing the nairobi- Mombasa rail line. From the same data. So how can u be consuming more cement than ur highest record?

https://www.constructionkenya.com/2176/cement-consumption-kenya/
It means in 2021, they still wouldn't surpass 6 million tonnes, at most 7 million.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:11am On Feb 16, 2022
Kenya cement consumption rose to highest in 2016 - about 6.7m - then it got into rough patch with interest rate caping - making banks unwilling to lend - it started around there - 6.5 - 6.6m - until 2019 when it rose again - and last year I bet it exceeded 10m. I think by 3rd Q - it was already 9m metric tonnes.

theenchanter:
but u didn't read where it was stated that "from last year"? That is the report is an 18month data, last year + 1st half.

Ur all time cement consumption record is 6.7m tonnes when u're constructing the nairobi- Mombasa rail line. From the same data. So how can u be consuming more cement than ur highest record?

https://www.constructionkenya.com/2176/cement-consumption-kenya/

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 10:11am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
They are valid all the time. You not only have to beat us - but you have to beat us 4 times - to be ahead. To merely beat us - is not good enough. Unless you are happy with just enough. If you're building roads - I expect you to do 4 times more. If you are building schools - I expect to see 4 times more - just to reach our level.
so in other words, if we're doing bad, as long as it's not 4x of yours, we're better, right?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:13am On Feb 16, 2022
Of course - If you have 100 million people in absolute poverty like you do - we should have less than 20million kenyans living in absolute poverty to be better than you.
theenchanter:
so in other words, if we're doing bad, as long as it's not 4x of yours, we're better, right?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 10:14am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
Kenya cement consumption rose to highest in 2016 - about 6.7m - then it got into rough patch with interest rate caping - making banks unwilling to lend - it started around there - 6.5 - 6.6m - until 2019 when it rose again - and last year I bet it exceeded 10m. I think by 3rd Q - it was already 9m metric tonnes.

this man is a verified mad man, I swear. grin see classic denial. grin

Just go and sin no more sha. wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 10:17am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
Of course - If you have 100 million people in absolute poverty like you do - we should have less than 20million kenyans living in absolute poverty to be better than you.
should we now agree that ur poverty rate is worse than Nigeria's?

We're at 83m while u're at 23m. I believe ours is not 4x of urs.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:18am On Feb 16, 2022
Almajiri graduate heckling as always.

https://www.knbs.or.ke/download/2021-quarter-3-gdp-report/


theenchanter:
this man is a verified mad man, I swear. grin see classic denial. grin

Just go and sin no more sha. wink

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 10:19am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
Almajiri graduate heckling as always.

https://www.knbs.or.ke/download/2021-quarter-3-gdp-report/


so, did ur chart proved u consume 10m tonnes?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:22am On Feb 16, 2022
Many types of poverty -absolute poverty - Nigeria rate (it taken care of per capita) - is 40 percent - and kenya is 17 percent - in short you're nearly three times poorer.
theenchanter:
should we now agree that ur poverty rate is worse than Nigeria's?

We're at 83m while u're at 23m. I believe ours is not 4x of urs.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:24am On Feb 16, 2022
We are nearly 30 percent up from 2020 - simple extropolation
theenchanter:
so, did ur chart proved u consume 10m tonnes?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 10:26am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
Many types of poverty -absolute poverty - Nigeria rate (it taken care of per capita) - is 40 percent - and kenya is 17 percent - in short you're nearly three times poorer.
easy, comrade. Here's ur earlier submission. Don't come here with another rants.

rvp20182:
Of course - If you have 100 million people in absolute poverty like you do - we should have less than 20million kenyans living in absolute poverty to be better than you.
in other words, ur poverty rate is worse because ur poverty rate is more than 4x ours.

And if it's by %, u're still worse cos urs is higher.

C'est fini.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 10:27am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
We are nearly 30 percent up from 2020 - simple extropolation
oga, I hear u.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:29am On Feb 16, 2022
Evidence of your almajiri miseducation. The rate already mean per capita has been factored.
theenchanter:
easy, comrade. Here's ur earlier submission. Don't come here with another rants.

in other words, ur poverty rate is worse because ur poverty rate is more than 4x ours.

And if it's by %, u're still worse cos urs is higher.

C'est fini.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 10:31am On Feb 16, 2022
rvp20182:
Evidence of your almajiri miseducation. The rate already mean per capita has been factored.
no, comrade. It's absolute number. U ain't dealing with ur fellow dumb compatriots here. wink

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