It's really hard having a conversation with Christians especially those who believe Jesus as God.

Ask them where Jesus called himself God in an unambiguous way anywhere in the Bible and they start by saying:

Thomas and Peter worshipped him! (Jesus sef worshipped his father in Matthew)
The wind obeyed him! (miracle)
He raised the dead (and not that he turned water to booze in Cana wedding lol) (another Miracle).

But the claim still is that Jesus never called himself God anywhere in the Bible.

Foolishness is killing you.

This guy, you are a muslim but you're always busy opening threads on christianity up and down. What kind of mumu obsession is this? Is this joblessness or what? Go and do something useful with your life and stop wasting all your time on this nonsense you are doing.

AntiChristian:
It's really hard having a conversation with Christians especially those who believe Jesus as God.

Ask them where Jesus called himself God in an unambiguous way anywhere in the Bible and they start by saying:

Thomas and Peter worshipped him! (Jesus sef worshipped his father in Matthew)
The wind obeyed him! (miracle)
He raised the dead (and not that he turned water to booze in Cana wedding lol) (another Miracle).

But the claim still is thatJesus never called himself God anywhere in the Bible.

Antichristian, I need you to explain the following portion of the Scripture.

Matthew 22: 43;He said to them, “How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him ‘Lord’? For he says,

44 “‘YHVH said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet.”’ 45 If then David calls him ‘Lord,’ how can he be his son?”

AntiChristian
"and not that he turned water to booze in Cana wedding lol"

Na your wahala be that. God of the bible never prohibited his servants from drinking alcoholic wine. He is only against getting drunk.

Jesus the perfect and sinless man himself drank alcoholic wine.

You already have the answer: NO!

The kind of foolishness that killed MHD is that will you too...just watch out .

God can never be a man...

Man is dust

To even think so is insulting to the creator of heaven and earth. God is the creator. He can't be part of creation..He is outside of space and time..

Jesus ( if at all he existed which I strongly doubt) can't be God...

A mamzer at best...

I wonder y u guys are wasting ur time responding to this meaningless statements

A drunk and definitely does not know anything came here talking nonsense that Jesus never called himself God
Only this statement shows and proves he has never read the Bible
So better save ur energy for reasonable comments

Jesus existed, died, resurrected and ascended to heaven. Jehovah will save mankind through him, as many as are willing to exercise faith in Christ Jesus.

sonmvayina:
God can never be a man...

Man is dust

To even think so is insulting to the creator of heaven and earth. God is the creator. He can't be part of creation..He is outside of space and time..

Jesus ( if at all he existed which I strongly doubt) can't be God...

A mamzer at best...

cornelboy:


Na your wahala be that. God of the bible never prohibited his servants from drinking alcoholic wine. He is only against getting drunk.

Jesus the perfect and sinless man himself drank alcoholic wine.

It seems na this part pain you pass right?

But Jesus supports drinking Alcohol and doesn't prohibit Gambling! Even in Cana where he gave them quality booze, same people that drank the previous wine still drank the new wine. Jesus never caution them. But you'll say Jesus frowns against getting drunk. But in Cana he didn't care about them getting drunk.

Do you remember the chairman of the occasion saying "Everyone serves the best wine first, and the cheap kind when people are drunk. But you have kept the best wine until now!" from John 2:10.

Jesus's first miracle was to increase people in drunkenness!

AntiChristian:

It seems na this part pain you pass right?
But Jesus supports drinking Alcohol and doesn't prohibit Gambling! Even in Cana where he gave them quality booze, same people that drank the previous wine still drank the new wine. Jesus never caution them. But you'll say Jesus frowns against getting drunk. But in Cana he didn't care about them getting drunk.
Do you remember the chairman of the occasion saying "Everyone serves the best wine first, and the cheap kind when people are drunk. But you have kept the best wine until now!" from John 2:10.
Jesus's first miracle was to increase people in drunkenness!

Due to your orientation you're getting things all wrong here my friend.
Jesus came to PREACH and TEACH not to force God's laws on people who already knew it.
So Christianity is not about deciding for you what you must do but guiding you and allowing you to choose for yourself!

elated177:


Antichristian, I need you to explain the following portion of the Scripture.

Matthew 22: 43;He said to them, “How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him ‘Lord’? For he says,

44 “‘YHVH said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet.”’ 45 If then David calls him ‘Lord,’ how can he be his son?”

But you said you are not a Christian? I asked of your religion but you no talk. Anyways, to your question, Even Lord Lugard is called a Lord!

In your Bible LORD is different from Lord. Even in a court of law, the world "Lord" is used to refer to the Judge.

Read your verses below:
Men of Israel, listen to this message: Jesus of Nazareth was a man certified by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs, which God did among you through Him, as you yourselves know. Acts 2:22

1 Timothy 2:5 says "For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus".

More so Jesus had a God:
In Isaiah 44:6, God says.........there is not God beside me......

But Jesus sure had a God
About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” which means, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” Matthew 27:46

Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”John 20:17

Jesus prayed to God
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” Matthew 26:39

MaxInDHouse:


Due to your orientation you're getting things all wrong here my friend.
Jesus came to PREACH and TEACH not to force God's laws on people who already knew it.
So Christianity is not about deciding for you what you must do but guiding you and allowing you to choose for yourself!

You are correct in that Jesus wasn't given force like Moses, Joshua, etc and that's why Christianity is a mess today with the freedom mentality!

AntiChristian:

You are correct in that Jesus wasn't given force like Moses, Joshua, etc and that's why Christianity is a mess today with the freedom mentality!

You got it wrong again my friend!
Moses, Joshua and other Israelites prophets walked with God under a constitution having to do with a nation "ISRAEL" but Jesus came to enlighten the whole world.
Did Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob or Joseph forced God's law on anyone?
The answer is "NO!" Because God has not established a nation that will be under such laws.
Jesus' manner of operations envisage a time when God's word will be taken to counties and nations under human rule. Each person will have to decide whether to live his life in harmony with God's law or not. So even when people around you don't have the love of God a Christian has God's laws written in his heart! Jeremiah 31:33

MaxInDHouse:


You got it wrong again my friend!
Moses, Joshua and other Israelites prophets walked with God under a constitution having to do with a nation "ISRAEL" but Jesus came to enlighten the whole world.

So Jesus did not walk with God like Moses so how was Jesus similar to Moses?

Did Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob or Joseph forced God's law on anyone?
The answer is "NO!" Because God has not established a nation that will be under such laws.
Jesus' manner of operations envisage a time when God's word will be taken to counties and nations under human rule. Each person will have to decide whether to live his life in harmony with God's law or not. So even when people around you don't have the love of God a Christian has God's laws written in his heart! Jeremiah 31:33

I thought Jesus said he was not sent but to the lost sheep of Israel?

But you'll say Jesus frowns against getting drunk. But in Cana he didn't care about them getting drunk.

Getting drunk and misuse of wine are what Jehovah God is against from the old testament.
Jesus whom the Koran confirms to be a perfect sinless man drank wine himself.
It makes the heart merry. It's a way of enjoying life.
I don't drink alcohol myself even though we're given the freedom. But i take palm wine some times.

The bible condemns have sex before marriage. It doesn't mean that you shouldn't have a girlfriend or fiancee before getting married.
All you need do is control yourself and avoid committing sexual sins with your partner.

Drinking moderately is not a sin!

Jesus never caution them

.
Were you there when it happened? Why making false assumptions?

It seems na this part pain you pass right?

Abeg no de reason like small pikin

Jesus knew best than any prophet that ever lived. Not every single details were recorded.
He would have warned them of getting drunk.

Ona na no de reason. If drinking alcoholic wine was something that bad and was a sin, don't you think the people that wrote the bible would have removed the verses from the scriptures?

Why would someone drink 7 bottles of beer haaa!

AntiChristian:




But Jesus supports drinking Alcohol and doesn't prohibit Gambling! Even in Cana where he gave them quality booze, same people that drank the previous wine still drank the new wine.
Do you remember the chairman of the occasion saying "Everyone serves the best wine first, and the cheap kind when people are drunk. But you have kept the best wine until now!" from John 2:10.

Jesus's first miracle was to increase people in drunkenness!

AntiChristian:
So Jesus did not walk with God like Moses so how was Jesus similar to Moses?

The similarities between Moses and Jesus:

©Both of them were Gods, meaning they both performed so many mighty works to prove that they're representatives of Almighty God.
©Both of them came to establish covenants having a special purpose. Moses mediated between God and the nation of Israel but Jesus mediated between God and a spiritual nation of priests.
©Both of them served as law givers. Moses wrote God's laws and read it to the Israelites but Jesus wrote it in the hearts of his listeners.
©Both of them were the meekest of all humans during their lifetime.

AntiChristian:

I thought Jesus said he was not sent but to the lost sheep of Israel?

The lost sheep of the house of Israel doesn't mean natural Israelites but people who want to draw close to God through the whole earth.
They are like lost sheep that rightly belongs to the house of faith in different religions they may be found.
That's why Jesus told natural Israelites that the God who sent him is capable of raising children for Abraham from stones. This means they shouldn't think God can't claim faithful people in any nation for Abraham!

The guy doesn't want to know the truth. He's just peddling his frustration around nairaland.

I have been trying to show him how Mohammed is the worst prophet of all time.

MaxInDHouse:


The similarities between Moses and Jesus:

©Both of them were Gods, meaning they both performed so many mighty works to prove that they're representatives of Almighty God.
©Both of them came to establish covenants having a special purpose. Moses mediated between God and the nation of Israel but Jesus mediated between God and a spiritual nation of priests.
©Both of them served as law givers. Moses wrote God's laws and read it to the Israelites but Jesus wrote it in the hearts of his listeners.
©Both of them were the meekest of all humans during their lifetime.

The lost sheep of the house of Israel doesn't mean natural Israelites but people who want to draw close to God through the whole earth.
They are like lost sheep that rightly belongs to the house of faith in different religions they may be found.
That's why Jesus told natural Israelites that the God who sent him is capable of raising children for Abraham from stones. This means they shouldn't think God can't claim faithful people in any nation for Abraham!

cornelboy:

The guy doesn't want to know the truth. He's just peddling his frustration around nairaland.
I have been trying to show him how Mohammed is the worst prophet of all time.

Mohammed may be sent by a spirit but he is not from the God of Israel!

You that have read bible, please do enlighten others where is written.

AngelDove10:
I wonder y u guys are wasting ur time responding to this meaningless statements

A drunk and definitely does not know anything came here talking nonsense that Jesus never called himself God
Only this statement shows and proves he has never read the Bible
So better save ur energy for reasonable comments

AntiChristian:


But you said you are not a Christian? I asked of your religion but you no talk. Anyways, to your question, Even Lord Lugard is called a Lord!

In your Bible LORD is different from Lord. Even in a court of law, the world "Lord" is used to refer to the Judge.

Read your verses below:
Men of Israel, listen to this message: Jesus of Nazareth was a man certified by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs, which God did among you through Him, as you yourselves know. Acts 2:22

1 Timothy 2:5 says "For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus".

More so Jesus had a God:
In Isaiah 44:6, God says.........there is not God beside me......

But Jesus sure had a God
About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” which means, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” Matthew 27:46

Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”John 20:17

Jesus prayed to God
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” Matthew 26:39

The name of my Father in heaven, the Creator of heaven and earth, is YHVH. The LORD, the Lord or lord is not a name. It is a title. However, that is a different issue entirely.

Pay close attention to following:

Matthew 22: 45 If then David calls him ‘Lord,’ how can he be his son?”

Who was king David referring to?

No body answered the question. I only saw ad hominem attacks. The answers that came out too did not address the question. Some started quoting others calling Jesus lord but never Jesus calling himself "God". Op I guess you have your answer.

kimco:
No body answered the question. I only saw ad hominem attacks. The answers that came out too did not address the question. Some started quoting others calling Jesus lord but never Jesus calling himself "God". Op I guess you have your answer.

Perhaps you missed this:

MaxInDHouse:
You already have the answer: NO!

elated177:



The name of my Father in heaven, the Creator of heaven and earth, is YHVH. The LORD, the Lord or lord is not a name. It is a title. However, that is a different issue entirely.

Pay close attention to following:

Matthew 22: 45 If then David calls him ‘Lord,’ how can he be his son?”

Who was king David referring to?

Jesus has no father! He only has a mother just as Eve was made from Adam. Adam has no parents.

So why will anyone create a genealogy for someone with no father?

David called him lord which means master and not Yahweh!

Your question is 'Did Jesus Ever called Himself God in the Bible?....I want you to understand Jesus did not show any of his nature as God when he was in human form Philippians 2:5-6 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God". So you don't expect him to be calling himself God when he was still in human form. But after his death and resurrection, he was called God by Thomas and Jesus did not rebuke him, John 20:28 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."
When Jesus appeared to Paul (formerly Saul) on his way to Damascus, Acts 9:5 Paul asked..., Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest:..You can see Jesus answered Paul as the Lord.
Stephen was martyred mainly because he called Jesus God before the Jews. Acts 7:55 ...and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God (Jesus in the position of God), and said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Because Stephen said he saw Jesus in heaven as God...the Jews reacted by killing him. vs 59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. If you noticed Stephen was calling on the name of Jesus as God even at the point of death.
Note: After the resurrection of Jesus: Thomas, one of the apostles called Jesus God; Jesus called himself Lord; and Stephen at the point of death called Jesus God. These are just few references from the Bible where Jesus is revealed as God. I advise you read the Bible to understand its message, rather than reading it to defend the message of Quran.

AntiChristian:


Jesus has no father! He only has a mother just as Eve was made from Adam. Adam has no parents.

So why will anyone create a genealogy for someone with no father?

David called him lord which means master and not Yahweh!

You don't understand things easily, do you, antichristian?

Why would king David call him "Master"?




Let me ignore you for now, antichristian. You are just wasting you time.


John 6: 43 “Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Yahushua answered. 44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by YHVH.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.

John 10: 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.

Antichristian, you are on a sheer and an absolute fruitless exercise.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

AntiChristian:
It's really hard having a conversation with Christians especially those who believe Jesus as God.

Ask them where Jesus called himself God in an unambiguous way anywhere in the Bible and they start by saying:

Thomas and Peter worshipped him! (Jesus sef worshipped his father in Matthew)
The wind obeyed him! (miracle)
He raised the dead (and not that he turned water to booze in Cana wedding lol) (another Miracle).

But the claim still is that Jesus never called himself God anywhere in the Bible.

Anti Christ! You never tire? Why not just face your own and leave others to face theirs! Leave and let me leave, stay on your lane and stop wasting your time in persecuting christianity it may end in tears be Warned!!!

cornelboy:
Jesus existed, died, resurrected and ascended to heaven. Jehovah will save mankind through him, as many as are willing to exercise faith in Christ Jesus.

Where did you get this idea from?

It is not in the Tanakh.

sonmvayina:

Where did you get this idea from?
It is not in the Tanakh.

In what book do you believe?

MaxInDHouse:


Due to your orientation you're getting things all wrong here my friend.
Jesus came to PREACH and TEACH not to force God's laws on people who already knew it.
So Christianity is not about deciding for you what you must do but guiding you and allowing you to choose for yourself!

To teach what.?

Has God not set everything out inhis Torah?

I'm a christian, i believe the NT as well as the Torah

sonmvayina:


Where did you get this idea from?

It is not in the Tanakh.