olas24u:


where is the money coming from ?they have the chinese alternative and that is what America wants,it does not want partnership between Europe and Russia

Still it limits Russia's economic growth..

juman:
America should go and sit down.

Those european countries are doing follow follow america.
Many of them if they treated the issue well from the beginning according to their opinions and interest, things would not have been in this way.

European countries need russia.
The whole gas use in germany supply by russia.
What of austria, italy etc.

Russia is big market for european countries products.
ETC.

America is the problem in this case not russia.

Muslim slut ur Hate on America will soon swallow u
American will keep destroyin all muslim states

In my own point of view, this sanctions will be only said on paper and TV but deep down,there will be no sanctions.
Don't you all think that Putin thought about all of this?.

olas24u:


Crimea belonged to Russia before and it was a gift to the Ukrainians

Says who? Warped historical narratives from Putin.

Their sanctions don't have effects anymore.

China is there if they want anything

you sound like a pariah. perhaps you can explain to us, what that means ? hahahaha.

these people like to bully russia a lot. even that boris wey dey talk nonsense fit throw punch ?

FERNANDEZISBACK:
This might have an effect on Russia to be sincere..
To my knowledge there isn't really any precedent since 1945 for a great power annexing another country to both gain land and intimidate another superpower...
Right now there's a spectrum for what what could happen..

On the one end Russia could invade and something could go horrifically wrong and we end up in a Europe wide NATO - Russia war. That would be disastrous to say the least.

In the middle of the spectrum is full sanctions and Russia becomes and economic pariah state. This however looks unlikely as only Britain and the US seem to see eye to eye in arguing for this outcome..
France and Germany seem a little bit less enthusiastic about this approach..
Let's see how it goes..

MT:


How many countries are using Russia alternatives to SWIFT (i.e, SPFS) and whats the volumes of their trades?

They solved their problem and increased trade with Eurasia and china ,what was the intention of the sanctions?your country would have been on its knees .

kponkedenge:
In a layman's terms, lemme explain what Russia is trying to do by granting independence to two Ukraine territories.

It's just like Buhari granting two local governments in Niger Republic independence from Niger because they have a higher Hausa population than indigenous Niger Republic.

It's a violation of international law. You can't give independence to a country that isn't within your power.

Its always a violation when someone else does it. Usa has back so many seperatists before and its never a violation. Israel , Kosovo etc...

MT:


Says who? Warped historical narratives from Putin.

In 1954, the Soviet Union transferred Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR from the Russian SFSR. The transfer to Ukraine was made by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev. The year 1954 happened to mark the 300th anniversary of the Treaty of Pereyaslav, which was signed in 1654 by representatives of the Ukrainian Cossack Hetmanate and Tsar Alexis of Russia.0

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MT:


Says who? Warped historical narratives from Putin.

even alaska in america was russia in time past

FERNANDEZISBACK:

How is America being distracted with covid?

She does not know the full scope of the mRNA programs and has been programmed into marketing drugs for |Big Pharma. |Technically, Biden is reactionary, and that is not great for America Company.

It is best for a leader to know that the world has a roadmap and there are stages of evolution of the processes leading to the completion of the agenda as designed. China and Russia leaders know the roadmap and have 100 yrs goal as to re-uniting the old bloc that United States Company had destroyed during the last wars.

Russia's goal under Putin is to restore the Soviet Union, China's Goal under Xi is to bring together all of the Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet, Mongolians etc under the leadership of Xi.

America and NATO wants otherwise, and it is naturally difficult to separate a people connected by DNA.

United States is a great place, and a great country, but no world power will be there forever, there was a time for Egypt, Rome, United Kingdom and now United States, and they can tarry as long as they want. There will new world power, but it will be multipolar.

I love the United States. But it is time to understand that you cant be King for ever.

chronique:


You lots don't even understand the dynamics of the EU market where Russia supplies the whole of Europe over 40% of basic energy needs that they can't possibly get elsewhere. Tell me how the US wants to supply gas to the whole of Europe and at what cost? Are they going to construct new delivery channels? You guys just sit on Nairaland and type away without even knowing the dynamics of the things you say.

guy you're very smart. The very people that import and use these energies didn't take that into consideration abi.
like they are waiting for you to tell them and you're accusing others of saying what they don't know.

hysterical

Mavor:
No they haven't. The US can cut off Russian banks and businesses from having access to US dollar and that essentially cuts them off from the global financial system. This is something the Russians are afraid of and even Putin has said that if the US does such a thing, it will be considered an official declaration of war. Various tools in the US box. The US can go after all Putin's oligarchs who are known to secretly hold Putin's wealth.

this is very true. With his actions, Putin has decided to isolate Russia even more. Now the US will punish Russia without sending troops or firing a single shot

The rouble will become more useless. USA na ur mate? Most Russians are already impoverished but they dare not complain due to d restriction on media and speech. They dare not complain. Another sanction will cripple its gasprom gas company.

The number of Russian billionaires has dropped to 69 due to the effect of sanction. If this threats becomes too heighten,Eu will force Ukraine to join the NATO and Russia dare not invade it.. Or else dem go bomb am to ground. The ally forces no be anybody's mate. Mk dem ask Japan how far

AstraDroid:


She does not know the full scope of the mRNA programs and has been programmed into marketing drugs for |Big Pharma. |Technically, Biden is reactionary, and that is not great for America Company.

It is best for a leader to know that the world has a roadmap and there are stages of evolution of the processes leading to the completion of the agenda as designed. China and Russia leaders know the roadmap and have 100 yrs goal as to re-uniting the old bloc that United States Company had destroyed during the last wars.

Russia's goal under Putin is to restore the Soviet Union, China's Goal under Xi is to bring together all of the Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet, Mongolians etc under the leadership of Xi.

America and NATO wants otherwise, and it is naturally difficult to separate a people connected by DNA.

United States is a great place, and a great country, but no world power will be there forever, there was a time for Egypt, Rome, United Kingdom and now United States, and they can tarry as long as they want. There will new world power, but it will be multipolar.

I love the United States. But it is time to understand that you cant be King for ever.

Aptly put.. kudos..

Russia Unshakable

olas24u:


Crimea belonged to Russia before and it was a gift to the Ukrainians

Yes you're very right. Putin just made this western leaders look like kids.

IhateYouMan:


The US and EU will cripple the Russian economy in no time. Watch this space.

Mumu, they've been sanctioning them since 2014 and nothing has changed

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FERNANDEZISBACK:

Still it limits Russia's economic growth..

Not true ,its major export is gas and military hardware ,it produces its own food ,they can only tell some countries not to buy from them

Aribasala0 your arguments are sound. I wonder why people listen to US sponsored media and believe the nonsense hype? If you have sanctions against Russia you don't announce that you will release them, you release them so that Russia will know what to expect and Ukraine will get some consolation from your announcement. This is all smoke and mirrors. EU and US cannot do nothing.

frog12:
you sound like a pariah. perhaps you can explain to us, what that means ? hahahaha.

these people like to bully russia a lot. even that boris wey dey talk nonsense fit throw punch ?

Pariah is like an outcast..

Receive sense in d mighty name of JESUS! �

DrGoodman:
I think US, and UK are being biased. Why can't they impose stiffer sanctions on the criminal government at Aso Rock for killing innocent Biafrans and tagging the killings ESN or ugm killings?

olas24u:


In 1954, the Soviet Union transferred Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR from the Russian SFSR. The transfer to Ukraine was made by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev. The year 1954 happened to mark the 300th anniversary of the Treaty of Pereyaslav, which was signed in 1654 by representatives of the Ukrainian Cossack Hetmanate and Tsar Alexis of Russia.0

Any country can lay claim to any land. God did not create earth with borders. Borders are human creation. The international community has recognised Ukraine's border. And Russia signed the agreement, only for Putin to unilaterally changed it now. There would be consequences

GreyLaw:
Hehehe... Putin is about to smell it. Next thing will be to target the man's personal investments and those of his cronies.

Lol you really think Putin did not calculate all this before making his move? He has done his homework and concluded that he can withstand whatever sanctions they placed in him. In his speech today he said bluntly (I’m paraphrasing) “they have been sanctioning us for years. The new sanctions will come no matter what I do anyway so it won’t deter me from taking care of our national interests”

Brov the world is realigning. America and UK not as strong as they used to be. Russia will simply look to China for all their trade and investments needs now. China is still the largest market in the world and could become the leading global superpower soon if America is not careful. Macron has seen all this and ran to make his own side deal with Putin.

olas24u:


They solved their problem and increased trade with Eurasia and china ,what was the intention of the sanctions?your country would have been on its knees .

Even Russia know that their economy will be hit so hard if they are yanked off the SWIFT. When they stop trading in Pounds and Dollars. They cant ignore such a threat to their economy. SPFS is no match to SWIFT.

MT:


Any country can lay claim to any land. God did not create earth with borders. Borders are human creation. The international community has recognised Ukraine's border. And Russia signed the agreement, only for Putin to unilaterally changed it now. There would be consequences

You are not making sense ,this people divided Africa amongst themselves without any African on the table and you reason this way after that experiment .The reason why you speak and write english is because they took your land

Clear road. Putin the original GOAT of our time. Just dey high my spirit, inflict damage on them muthafuckas

chuckdelis:
Putin should take a cue from Hitler and Stalin. Even Putin recognizes he can’t win. He said it in his previous press address. He’s just a war monger.

No he is not, the real war monger here is the USA. tell me why is Nato expanding towards Russia, what reasons? What will USA do if Russia come and set up bases next to it? Putin needs to do exactly what he is doing.
Russia can never let Ukraine join Nato, they have too much to loose. Don't forget military Arms were shared among these breakaway countries and some are with Ukraine. Joining Nato will mean that Russian weapons secret are transferred to the west. Russia will blow up Ukraine than let that happen.

olas24u:
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Not true ,its major export is gas and military hardware ,it produces its own food ,they can only tell some countries not to buy from them

And is it not limiting their economic growth?
I don't know why you are going back and forth..
So if you produce your own food won't you sell out to the big league?

The sanctions are what causes currency devaluation (among other things, but the sanctions have a huge role). In Russia the ruble has devalued to about half of what it was worth 6–7 years ago against most or all major currencies. Every Russian inside Russia inevitable uses the ruble and the vast majority get their pay in rubles.

When their currency devalues to half of what it was, everything they purchase from foreign nations (all imports) cost twice as much suddenly, not even taking inflation of the original foreign price of the import into account. Besides that, as soon as they leave their borders (like on a vacation to Thailand) their money is suddenly worth half as much.

Middle class and poor Russians inevitably rely on imports for a lot of things, and some of them also travel. (Samsung appliances, German cars, Apple or Korean smartphones, Chinese computer parts, and countless other things). They also like to go vacation to Thailand, Europe, etc. sometimes.

When the price of imports go up, often domestic manufacturers follow suit, because since imports are no longer competitive, they can raise the price too — just because they can.

So Putin is butchering middle class and poor Russians, but to distract from that he keeps them amused with stories of national greatness and international escapades.

olas24u:


You are not making sense ,this people divided Africa amongst themselves without any African on the table and you reason this way after that experiment .The reason why you speak and write english is because they took your land

I saw that you were making educated submission, hence why I joined issue with you. Dont be emotional in analysis. You dont have to insult while making your point. Have a nice day.

olugabbie:


They will be cautious of the kind of sanctions to impose on Russia. If the sanction is heavy, Russia will likely launch full invasion. If the sanctions are light. Russia will continue putting pressure on Ukraine, which will have negative effect on her economy. At the end she will have to drop the NATO membership ambition.

Russia can't dare invade Russia.. Dem go hear am. No country will join him in the war. It will feel isolated just like Nazi Germany in d second world war. NATO will burn russia to ashes believe me. NATO no be anybody mate for this world.

MT:


Even Russia know that their economy will be hit so hard if they are yanked off the SWIFT. When they stop trading in Pounds and Dollars. They cant ignore such a threat to their economy. SPFS is no match to SWIFT.

Even the west knows that its a dangerous game to use swift as a political tool ,so its not one sided .it will fade away once its used to bargain.