FERNANDEZISBACK:

You ain't getting my point..
Fine they have their all and all but their economy is depreciating bit by bit due to the sanction and you are still arguing...

how do dyou mesaure economic growth and decline?GDP or human conditions ?

national security over anything else. having missiles in those nato countries is like remote war. missiles go reach russia quickly while america can seat and relax. na europe go suffer more.

FERNANDEZISBACK:

You didn't contribute anything reasonable here..
Look who's telling me nonsense that doesn't even know what pariah means..

neuf:


wow! so people didn't die of COVID in China and Russia abi.
China knows the road map yet there's a recent spike of COVID cases in Hong Kong.

For all the multi-polar world you guys so desperately want, can you mention just two countries that have received financial aid from the so called China? not loans, aids meaning not to pay back.
Not need to even talk of Russia on that one.

when they don't carry Africans along on the world stage, you guys play race card not knowing those guys understand you people prefer to suffer and smile than actually doing something.
it's the one that make you suffer that you guys praise the most

You are being biased by a factor of 10 as you think that the basis of World Leadership is helping parasitic blocs or deepening philanthropy.

There were world powers that enslaved and still enslave others. There were world powers who show benevolence and there will be world powers who will not give a shiiiit.

Philanthropy isnt a criteria to being world power, even when Africa was world power during the reign of Egypt, we conquered Israel and enslaved the Israelis, read your Bible book of histories. So why would you make philanthropy to Africans a criteria when Africans actually enslaved others during our own leadership?

You are myopically biased in your assertion.

FERNANDEZISBACK:

You ain't getting my point..
Fine they have their all and all but their economy is depreciating bit by bit due to the sanction and you are still arguing...

they have manufacture cars called LADA .very strong car

Lada , marketed as LADA, is a brand of cars manufactured by AvtoVAZ (originally VAZ), a Russian company owned by the French Groupe Renault. From January 2021 onwards Lada is integrated with sister brand Dacia into Renault's Lada-Dacia business unit.

Jackanda1:
Lols. Trade war with small Russia? Don't kid your self, the only country qualified to engage America in a trade war is China.
The only thing Russia sabi well na to test hypersonic missiles

Quickly go and read about Russia's Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 and come back here to clear what you wrote immediately

MoIbrahim:
You are very incorrect. This is about security. Russia wants to secure its backyard while US and EU want to plant things there, and Ukraine is almost welcoming them. Same story with other countries around Russia. You guys should go and study the history of Eastern Europe and the West to fully understand what they are all doing.

If Russia wasn't such a bully would her neighbors seek to join NATO?

When you harass and trample on your brother, would you be shocked when he decides to join forces with an outsider?

foleskay:

Wait till russia enters ukrain now or maybe burn it. Forget it the west will hit russia in an unprecedented manner. They re still playing waiting game. Russia knows watsapp..that's why its beating around d bush. Russia dares not invade Ukraine mark my word.

You can not use a military action on a Nuclear state. It will result into a world war. NATO or US is not going to start a world war because of Ukraine. It is not going to happen. The only weapon they can use is sanctions.

olas24u:



That is not true ,bring the data here , how did you measure it ?china is ready to pay for its gas and oil in local currency

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405473916000039
Here you go read and educate yourself instead of arguing unnecessarily..

Once you are done get Back and tell me whether yve been wrong or not..

juman:
America should go and sit down.

Those european countries are doing follow follow america.
Many of them if they treated the issue well from the beginning according to their opinions and interest, things would not have been in this way.

European countries need russia.
The whole gas use in germany supply by russia.
What of austria, italy etc.

Russia is big market for european countries products.
ETC.

America is the problem in this case not russia.

How many times were you denied AMERICAN VISA or how many times were your relatives denied American Visa.?
Just be Frank, tell me, we can restore it

DrGoodman:
I think US, and UK are being biased. Why can't they impose stiffer sanctions on the criminal government at Aso Rock for killing innocent Biafrans and tagging the killings ESN or ugm killings?

Innocent Biafra killing the police, army and burning of police stations abi? Can your bloody UK and USA allow such nonsense in their countries?

olugabbie:



You can not use a military action on a Nuclear state. It will result into a world war. NATO or US is not going to start a world war because of Ukraine. It is not going to happen. The only weapon they can use is sanctions.

You are now the president of the United States.
U be EU.
Why not watch and see how things unfold..
Anything can happen...
American hasn't been showing its ballistics.
We may be surprised with bioterrorism from America.

neuf:


So China has joined now. it's not only Russia again.

wait, let's leave media speculation and all that, to you what is Russia fighting with NATO for? Soviet Union is gone, communism is gone in Europe, so how is NATO anti-Russian?
Second question, if NATO whose new objective is the security of Europe and defending human rights is disbanded right now, how rich and populated is the likes of Estonia, Latvia, Czech and other non-super power European countries to raise an Army to protect their sovereignty?

NATO is an allied force, who exactly are they allying against. When Putin asked bill Clinton to join, why was he declined. The whole of body language of NATO is anti Russia and the fact that other countries are not scared by the increasing power of NATO is saddening because NATO countries will sabotage any group of countries trying to replicate the same thing they are doing. To answer your second question, these countries were part of USSR, US is just giving them NATO alliance to make sure they do not go back an ally to Russia but the truth is they are just benchwarmers in NATO, nothing they say will influence NATO's decision.

see as niggas carry wetin nor concern them for head lol.. instead of them to face the problems in thwir shithole country ..

Same British that ran from France through English Channel to UK, and hide under NAZI bombardment of UK.
If NAZI, have not moved her best military men to East front and invaded the USSR then she could have take over UK.
The biggest battle of WW2, was fought in East Front.

foleskay:

Guy forget leave story. So if Russia blows up Ukraine, will russia remain d same? U no sabi d west sha. Na war wey no concern dem dey like flex power. Go read the story of beginning of ww2. It was when germany invaded poland that made britain and france to declare war on Germany. And dem hear am. So if Russia dare bomb Ukraine,it will trigger world war 3. And Russia will not remain the same.

AstraDroid:


You are being biased on a factor of 10 as you think that the basis of World Leadership is helping parasitic blocs or deepening philanthropy.

There were world powers that enslaved and still enslave others. There were world powers who show benevolence and there will be world powers who will not give a shiiiit.

Philanthropy isnt a criteria to being world power, even when Africa was world power during the reign of Egypt, we conquered Israel and enslaved the Israelis, read your Bible book of histories. So why would you make philanthropy to Africans a criteria when Africans actually enslaved others during our own leadership?

You are myopically biased in your assertion.

Do you mean aids shielded with a lot of financial blackmails and undertones. The west gives nothing for free and trust me they collect back in 10 folds.

FERNANDEZISBACK:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405473916000039
Here you go read and educate yourself instead of arguing unnecessarily..

Once you are done get Back and tell me whether yve been wrong or not..

its outdated information ,this was 2014 ,2017 , it currently has 1.17 trillion naira economy and it lowers its defence budget.so it does not attract,
of course the sanctions affected, but it took time to navigate and organise ,they will make more money without sanction and will still create alternatives with sanctions and make money .they are both losing .it is not a one way thing.

Binhamid:


NATO is an allied force, who exactly are they allying against. When Putin asked bill Clinton to join, why was he declined. The whole of body language of NATO is anti Russia and the fact that other countries are not scared by the increasing power of NATO is saddening because NATO countries will sabotage any group of countries trying to replicate the same thing they are doing. To answer your second question, these countries were part of USSR, US is just giving them NATO alliance to make sure they do not go back an ally to Russia but the truth is they are just benchwarmers in NATO, nothing they say will influence NATO's decision.

You are Right.
They may be benchwarmers as you said but they are more comfortable with NATO than Russia.
And that's their legitimate right.

olas24u:

its outdated information ,this was 2014 ,2017 , it currently has 1.17 trillion naira economy and it lowers its defence budget.so it does not attract,
of course the sanctions affected, but it took time to navigate and organise ,they will make more money without sanction and will still create alternatives with sanctions and make money .they are both losing .it is not a one way thing.

Ok

GreyLaw:


No need arguing this mate. More sanctions are waiting; weightier ones for that matter. Sanctions don't finish. And there is no new world order. If ever there was something like that it will be China. Russia is a poor country. Till date Russia cannot even match Portugal's GDP per capita and they have been trying for ages. Apart from Moscow and St. Petersburg most other Russian cities are messed up.

New world order? Lol... China would be laughing at your statement. Even China no want war. Many people for the sake of hatred or pure boredom want a change of the guard, but no, the US is centuries ahead of every other country when it comes to military abilities and intelligence. For me: US, UK, Israel, then others

Even China cannot afford a full blown confrontation with India. India is in space, medicine, nuclear warfare, everything and they don't make noise. Let Putin go and sit down. This one he will lose it a million times over. The West actually want him to make a move so they will cordon him off and he knows hence the merry go round.

Normal Yinmu Iran and North Korea has been living with sanctions for ages Yet they’re still producing Nuclear weapons.
Only African countries sanctions can have effects on.
The west are not waiting for Putin to make any move. They know Putin will invade the least they can do is sanctions nothing more nothing less.

aribisala0:
you are funny


Russia has over $600 billion in foreign reserves.
Russia has the largest land mass with plenty of Natural resources
Plenty of gas and crude oil
It is self sufficient in food
It produces more wheat that the US and is number 3 in the world in wheat production and number 1 in wheat exports meaning it produces a lot more than it needs

And a small Germany has a bigger economy than its entirety?

Shouldn’t that tell you a lot!

It can’t even come close to UK

FERNANDEZISBACK:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405473916000039
Here you go read and educate yourself instead of arguing unnecessarily..

Once you are done get Back and tell me whether yve been wrong or not..

Putin and Xi once discussed one of their key themes in bilaterals and BRICS meetings: the need to keep increasing the share of the yuan and ruble in mutual settlements – bypassing the US dollar – and opening new stock market avenues for Russian and Chinese investors.

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No need arguing this mate. More sanctions are waiting; weightier ones for that matter. Sanctions don't finish. And there is no new world order. If ever there was something like that it will be China. Russia is a poor country. Till date Russia cannot even match Portugal's GDP per capita and they have been trying for ages. Apart from Moscow and St. Petersburg most other Russian cities are messed up.

New world order? Lol... China would be laughing at your statement. Even China no want war. Many people for the sake of hatred or pure boredom want a change of the guard, but no, the US is centuries ahead of every other country when it comes to military abilities and intelligence. For me: US, UK, Israel, then others

Even China cannot afford a full blown confrontation with India. India is in space, medicine, nuclear warfare, everything and they don't make noise. Let Putin go and sit down. This one he will lose it a million times over. The West actually want him to make a move so they will cordon him off and he knows hence the merry go round.[/events.

Why are you misinforming people, you're saying Portugal GDP is more than Russia, for where did you get that from? You're also comparing China with India, it seem you're still in 1970s events please go and do fresh research and correct your self.

olas24u:

Russia as an alliance with Eurasia and has partnership with china ,Iran, and the rest that will easily cushion effects ,the most powerful economies are in Asia not Europe.

What does Eurasia has ? Go and ask Iranians the effect of us and EU sanctions

nijanigga:
Big mistake for Ukraine to give up its nuclear arsenals from third largest nuclear power to 0 and relying on US,EU and UK to bark at putin

have you ever take time to read and understand the agreement that was signed or you just heard someone said it and it sounded nice and you start to spread the same falsehood without checking

GreyLaw:


He thinks this is child's play. Many of these posters haven't travelled much outside Nigeria and so cannot really distinguish reality from fiction. Russia has been messed up a long time ago. They used their media to brainwash their citizens but now with social media it's difficult to hide the truth from them.

Those inner states apart from St. Petersburg and Moscow you can easily get a female companion for cheap. Lol... They are willing to run away with you so long as you have money to take care of them. Their media show you Moscow and St. Petersburg but the rest cities are shit.

I was actually suprised Russia would even make that silly move. I mean that country called Russia is struggling

I feel sorry for the ordinary Russian citizens, they will bear the brunt just like Nigerians did during the time of Abacha.

I dream of a multi polar world, a world where there are multiple competing powers and not just one. Balances creates healthy competition. I remember the bromance between Putin and Bush, but it was an epiphany for Putin to realise that Bush was looking for an opportunity to strike Russia. People seems to forget that Putin asked to join Nato but was turned down.

You can't blame him. He was a young and inexperienced politician back then, but as time unfold, he realise that Russia is the lamb that the shepherd (the west) was waiting to be slaughtered. He felt betrayed and that changed him. A monster was born.

olas24u:


Putin and Xi once discussed one of their key themes in bilaterals and BRICS meetings: the need to keep increasing the share of the yuan and ruble in mutual settlements – bypassing the US dollar – and opening new stock market avenues for Russian and Chinese investors.

Ok..
Enjoy your ignorance..
Since you don't have evidence to back up your claims then enjoy..
What's the point in arguing with someone who doesn't understand how sanction works and it's effects..

IhateYouMan:
This is the first set of sanctions, once Russia invades Ukraine, more massive sanctions will follow.

No gunshots would be fired.

Watch out for the next biological warfare from Wuhan.

The first one hit America and Europe really hard. But that was just a warning shot

seunmsg:
Sanctions alone are not enough to deter Putin. European and US leaders must put a military response on the table if they really intend to stop putting. Confiscating the assets of few Russian Oligarchs won’t put any serious fear into Putin or scare him enough to withdraw his 200k troops from Donetsk and Luhansk.

they can't confront Russia over Ukraine militarily. All the can do is what they are doing now.

foleskay:
The rouble will become more useless. USA na ur mate? Most Russians are already impoverished but they dare not complain due to d restriction on media and speech. They dare not complain. Another sanction will cripple its gasprom gas company.

The number of Russian billionaires has dropped to 69 due to the effect of sanction. If this threats becomes too heighten,Eu will force Ukraine to join the NATO and Russia dare not invade it.. Or else dem go bomb am to ground. The ally forces no be anybody's mate. Mk dem ask Japan how far

Bomb Russia to the ground? That's world war 3 !! .. You just don't start war with a country with the highest number of nuclear warheads and hypersonic missiles!!!.. You just don't, no matter what

nijanigga:

What does Eurasia has ? Go and ask Iranians the effect of us and EU sanctions

even the European union is about markets ,its a huge population and good for trade with open borders with mutual benefits. Iran gained advancement in technology and medical sciences because of sanctions. There university are top with empirical evidence to show for it .|They have their own refineries ,they have their own engineers, they have their own vessels. No single input from any outsiders expect iranians themselves.

China cannot afford a full blown confrontation with India. India is in space, medicine, nuclear warfare, everything and they don't make noise. Let Putin go and sit down. This one he will lose it a million times over. The West actually want him to make a move so they will cordon him off and he knows hence the merry go round.[/events.

Why are you misinforming people, you're saying Portugal GDP is more than Russia, for where did you get that from? You're also comparing China with India, it seem you're still in 1970s events please go and do fresh research and correct your self. On sanctions, North Korea and Iran surviving it till now. Russia has prepared for it before her decision.

GreyLaw:


No need arguing this mate. More sanctions are waiting; weightier ones for that matter. Sanctions don't finish. And there is no new world order. If ever there was something like that it will be China. Russia is a poor country. Till date Russia cannot even match Portugal's GDP per capita and they have been trying for ages. Apart from Moscow and St. Petersburg most other Russian cities are messed up.

New world order? Lol... China would be laughing at your statement. Even China no want war. Many people for the sake of hatred or pure boredom want a change of the guard, but no, the US is centuries ahead of every other country when it comes to military abilities and intelligence. For me: US, UK, Israel, then others

Even China cannot afford a full blown confrontation with India. India is in space, medicine, nuclear warfare, everything and they don't make noise. Let Putin go and sit down. This one he will lose it a million times over. The West actually want him to make a move so they will cordon him off and he knows hence the merry go round.

China cannot afford a full blown confrontation with India. India is in space, medicine, nuclear warfare, everything and they don't make noise. Let Putin go and sit down. This one he will lose it a million times over. The West actually want him to make a move so they will cordon him off and he knows hence the merry go round.[/events.