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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by olas24u(f): 12:23am On Feb 22, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:

Ok..
Enjoy your ignorance.. cheesy
Since you don't have evidence to back up your claims then enjoy..
What's the point in arguing with someone who doesn't understand how sanction works and it's effects.. cheesy


sanctions can only work with weak countries without human capital and technology, Russia is not a land locked country.

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by pansophist(m): 12:24am On Feb 22, 2022
The west have met their match. I remember during Iraq war when Bush ordered the president and his son to leave the country within few days ultimatum. They could do that because Iraq was weak and has no nuclear weapon, and they invaded the country later on. Now its Russia and its only shout and sanctions. Go fight Russians na. Lol

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by FERNANDEZISBACK: 12:24am On Feb 22, 2022
olas24u:



sanctions can only work with weak countries without human capital and technology, Russia is not a land locked country.
Ok.. grin
Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by neuf(m): 12:24am On Feb 22, 2022
AstraDroid:


You are being biased on a factor of 10 as you think that the basis of World Leadership is helping parasitic blocs or deepening philanthropy.

There were world powers that enslaved and still enslave others. There were world powers who show benevolence and there will be world powers who will not give a shiiiit.

Philanthropy isnt a criteria to being world power, even when Africa was world power during the reign of Egypt, we conquered Israel and enslaved the Israelis, read your Bible book of histories. So why would you make philanthropy to Africans a criteria when Africans actually enslaved others during our own leadership?

You are myopically biased in your assertion.

then I can categorically state that your need for a multipolar whatever is out if hatred for America and I wouldn't be far from the truth.

That others did something bad doesn't mean such should be repeated in the future. See why I said Africans love to suffer and smile.

Like the say with great power come great responsibility so if they aren't ready to be responsible why should the accorded the power that comes with that??

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by cumoverna: 12:25am On Feb 22, 2022
Sorry I just remembered it was a documentary on aljazeera news "Witness"
iyapont:
Title of the movie pls
Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by Jackanda1(m): 12:25am On Feb 22, 2022
EgusiShankly:
Their sanctions don't have effects anymore.

China is there if they want anything
Abi? China could not help north Korea it closest neighbor and ally, is it Russia they'll help?

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by olas24u(f): 12:25am On Feb 22, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:

Ok.. grin

this is like their own cheveron ,or eni

PJSC Gazprom is a Russian majority state-owned multinational energy corporation headquartered in the Lakhta Center in Saint Petersburg.
Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by Nicerazor(m): 12:25am On Feb 22, 2022
Trade Sanction for instance will affect government of Russia and businesses, go and ask china/Huawei how US firms like google stop supporting huawei devices. They couldn’t use google services, playstore, android OS, google search engine etc. Fingers crossed let’s wait and see.
FERNANDEZISBACK:

US is the biggest economy..yes most world trade happens in US dollars but to make the sanctions effective it need to threaten to sanction third parties...

So for US sanctions to be effective unless US has monopoly on something they will threaten to sanctions not only the country.. but also companies trading with that country...So for example if US sanction Nigeria and BMW export cars there US will sanction BMW and refuse to import from BMW or export anything to that company. Since US is a huge market and most companies of some value have some connection to US this makes the sanctions effective.

For sanctions on Iran big oil companies are reluctant to invest in the oil business in Iran because it can hurt more than they will earn...

Without these third party sanctions, US sanctions wouldn't be effective and companies outside US would get a competitive edges in that region...
What other country has this kinda power?

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by anonymous1759(m): 12:26am On Feb 22, 2022
D1official:

Russia is up against EU and US... Crippling Russian meagre economy of just a little above a trillion dollars wouldn't be a problem trust me.

Trust if EU and US have the power they would have crippled China , Russia, Iran and North Korea’s Economy to dust just to weaken them .
They don’t have that absolute power as they profess they can only do the little within their jurisdictions.

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by aribisala0(m): 12:27am On Feb 22, 2022
CoronaVirusPro:


And a small Germany has a bigger economy than its entirety?

Shouldn’t that tell you a lot!

It can’t even come close to UK
Tells me nothing

This is not about who has a bigger economy.
Or is that what is is about? Why are we having this conversation ? is it about economies?

If anything all it says is that Russia makes more efficient use of its limited resources in asserting its will

Russia is the only country in the world standing up to the US with 10% of its military budget. Speaks volumes

FYI in Purchasing Power Parity terms the Russian economy is bigger than that of the UK


It is essentially one of the most self sufficient countries

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by Jackanda1(m): 12:28am On Feb 22, 2022
pansophist:
The west have met their match. I remember during Iraq war when Bush ordered the president and his son to leave the country within few days ultimatum. They could do that because Iraq was weak and has no nuclear weapon, and they invaded the country later on. Now its Russia and its only shout and sanctions. Go fight Russians na. Lol
Why would they send troops to fight Russia?

Is Ukraine a part of the US or NATO?

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by SmartMen: 12:29am On Feb 22, 2022
DrGoodman:
I think US, and UK are being biased. Why can't they impose stiffer sanctions on the criminal government at Aso Rock for killing innocent Biafrans and tagging the killings ESN or ugm killings?
Because they only sanction where they can benefit... there is nothing to benefit from Biafra.
Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by olugabbie(m): 12:29am On Feb 22, 2022
MALIGNANTGuest:

You are now the president of the United States.
U be EU.
Why not watch and see how things unfold..
Anything can happen...
American hasn't been showing its ballistics.
We may be surprised with bioterrorism from America.

This point is, US & NATO are not going to sacrifice their citizens for Ukraine. They will never allow the world to be destroy in a nuclear war because of Ukraine.
Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by aribisala0(m): 12:30am On Feb 22, 2022
Jackanda1:
Why would they send troops to fight Russia?

Is Ukraine a part of the US or NATO?
So why are they making noise?
Why are they sending weapons and advisers there?
Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by gambojimeta: 12:31am On Feb 22, 2022
shiwex:
never.....Europe needs Gas. have you been to Europe to see how this year's winter is cold....Cripple the economy and Europe will freeze to death......Russia is not just some banana republic.....
Emmm. Why did they not freeze to death in the 19th century and earlier 20th century

You make it sound like they get 100 percent of gas from Russia

There are options for the 30% sef

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/what-are-europes-options-case-russian-gas-disruption-2022-02-15/#:~:text=Europe%20relies%20on%20Russia%20for,by%20a%20network%20of%20pipelines.

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by Eisenhower(m): 12:31am On Feb 22, 2022
BloomingDale:


Ok. Makes sense. Most Nigerians are coons and have no idea what is happening on the world stage.
Many are grossly ignorant and when you educate them they regurgitate the same media narrative that brainwashed them.
No time to do indepth research or read books in geopolitics or even declassified CIA or fbi files on us foreign policy.
Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by suffering: 12:32am On Feb 22, 2022
Nothing new. What they’ll never do is put boots on the ground. They can train rebels, guerillas and militants yet will never soil their hands. Preek dey stand here, make I attend to the thing.
Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by aribisala0(m): 12:32am On Feb 22, 2022
Jackanda1:
Abi? China could not help north Korea it closest neighbor and ally, is it Russia they'll help?
China IS HELPING NORTH KOREA A LOT

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by anonymous1759(m): 12:34am On Feb 22, 2022
Mavor:
No they haven't. The US can cut off Russian banks and businesses from having access to US dollar and that essentially cuts them off from the global financial system. This is something the Russians are afraid of and even Putin has said that if the US does such a thing, it will be considered an official declaration of war. Various tools in the US box. The US can go after all Putin's oligarchs who are known to secretly hold Putin's wealth.


All these things are fairly tales you guys should open your eyes.
The United States has defied UN to invade countries they can bully. If they can do that it means they don’t need to waste anymore time to cripple their adversaries .

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by Billygee2u: 12:35am On Feb 22, 2022
DrGoodman:
I think US, and UK are being biased. Why can't they impose stiffer sanctions on the criminal government at Aso Rock for killing innocent Biafrans and tagging the killings ESN or ugm killings?
Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by frowland(m): 12:36am On Feb 22, 2022
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FERNANDEZISBACK:
This might have an effect on Russia to be sincere..
To my knowledge there isn't really any precedent since 1945 for a great power annexing another country to both gain land and intimidate another superpower...
Right now there's a spectrum for what what could happen..

On the one end Russia could invade and something could go horrifically wrong and we end up in a Europe wide NATO - Russia war. That would be disastrous to say the least.

In the middle of the spectrum is full sanctions and Russia becomes and economic pariah state. This however looks unlikely as only Britain and the US seem to see eye to eye in arguing for this outcome..
France and Germany seem a little bit less enthusiastic about this approach..
Let's see how it goes..
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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by Eisenhower(m): 12:38am On Feb 22, 2022
aribisala0:


Even God does not have that kind of power


It is illusory



Russia has effectively been under sanctions for decades and is already inured to them

Can the US stop Russia selling oil and gas? NO

The main things Russia sells are Energy and weapons and Russia has been moving away from dollars to the Euro for years
Also Russia has a very large land mass , plenty of Natural resources and is very self sufficient making most of what it needs.
The EU does not have the same appetite for conflict that The US and UK have . The reality is just like Putin grabbed Crimea he will grab Ukraine and Nothing the West can do about it

No one said anything when Obama funded the revolution by spending 1million per day that toppled a democratically elected pro-Russian government in Ukraine in 2014. And Russia responded by annexing Crimea and what did Obama do squivel like a coward that he is.
Those that want these war so much are the neocons in Washington DC and downing street so their buddies in Lockheed martin and other arm producing conglomerate can make billions in profit as the big pharma did with COVID crimes. Check the board of these companies and you will not be surprised.

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by FERNANDEZISBACK: 12:39am On Feb 22, 2022
frowland:
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You will soon grow up..m grin wink
Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by anonymous1759(m): 12:40am On Feb 22, 2022
Sanchez01:

You know nothing, apparently. The sanctions will likely not just hit Russia but Russian oligarchs and friends of Putin in Europe and the United States.

Russia won't survive a sanction from the US, the UK and the EU. Putin himself said this already because he knows the world will be the casualty but the greater one will impact Russia. Economic sanctions will cripple Russia within 3 days.


Ogbeni nothing will happen.

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by aribisala0(m): 12:40am On Feb 22, 2022
gambojimeta:

Emmm. Why did they not freeze to death in the 19th century and earlier 20th century

You make it sound like they get 100 percent of gas from Russia
They did freeze and the population has more than doubled since 1900. That can partly be linked to that factor
Russia is the single largest supplier of gas . It does not have to be 100%

The issue is how sensitive are energy prices to any disruption and what impact does that have on inflation and output in Europe? The answer is...........
very sensitive
The EU cannot do without Russian gas without entering a recession and economic contraction

They need each other
Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by Anchor12: 12:41am On Feb 22, 2022
nijanigga:
Big mistake for Ukraine to give up its nuclear arsenals from third largest nuclear power to 0 and relying on US,EU and UK to bark at putin

It's a deal then to be allowed to stand as a country.
Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by gambojimeta: 12:42am On Feb 22, 2022
SlyfoxxjReturns:


Lol you really think Putin did not calculate all this before making his move? He has done his homework and concluded that he can withstand whatever sanctions they placed in him. In his speech today he said bluntly (I’m paraphrasing) “they have been sanctioning us for years. The new sanctions will come no matter what I do anyway so it won’t deter me from taking care of our national interests”

Brov the world is realigning. America and UK not as strong as they used to be. Russia will simply look to China for all their trade and investments needs now. China is still the largest market in the world and could become the leading global superpower soon if America is not careful. Macron has seen all this and ran to make his own side deal with Putin.
The communist are taking over the world grin grin grin grin
Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by gambojimeta: 12:44am On Feb 22, 2022
neuf:


wow! so people didn't die of COVID in China and Russia abi.
China knows the road map yet there's a recent spike of COVID cases in Hong Kong.

For all the multi-polar world you guys so desperately want, can you mention just two countries that have received financial aid from the so called China? not loans, aids meaning not to pay back.
Not need to even talk of Russia on that one.

when they don't carry Africans along on the world stage, you guys play race card not knowing those guys understand you people prefer to suffer and smile than actually doing something.
it's the one that make you suffer that you guys praise the most
That guy is drunk in conspiracy theories. China that is still locking down cities due to Covid 19.

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by pansophist(m): 12:44am On Feb 22, 2022
Jackanda1:
Why would they send troops to fight Russia?

Is Ukraine a part of the US or NATO?

Why would they send troop to invade countries like Iraq and Libya, did they attack a nato country ?

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by neuf(m): 12:44am On Feb 22, 2022
Binhamid:


NATO is an allied force, who exactly are they allying against. When Putin asked bill Clinton to join, why was he declined. The whole of body language of NATO is anti Russia and the fact that other countries are not scared by the increasing power of NATO is saddening because NATO countries will sabotage any group of countries trying to replicate the same thing they are doing. To answer your second question, these countries were part of USSR, US is just giving them NATO alliance to make sure they do not go back an ally to Russia but the truth is they are just benchwarmers in NATO, nothing they say will influence NATO's decision.

First you just showed you have you clause about what NATO is really about.
Second, you didn't answer my question. The question was how can small European countries raise and fund a sufficient army to protect it's sovereignty?

NATO since you don't look like one that likes to do research was formed with 2 main objectives, stop the spread of Soviet communism into western Europe as Europe was recovering from WW2 and they feared another war since the Soviet Union was annexing previous German conquered territories instead of liberating them. Second objective was protection of western Europe, the major powers in Europe back then were drained from the war and German per terms of surrender wasn't allowed to have a standing army, that's one of the reasons America and Canada were made to be allies in NATO to deter the Soviets from attacking western Europe.

With the fall of the SU, the first objective became redundant, if you care to read which I assume you don't, disbandment of NATO was proposed as at that time but the cost of individual state raising and funding it's own army and also the fear of one state attacking another all over again quash that idea. Instead the Presidential Pardon Program was put in place to form alliance in terms of economic growth and development with former Soviet states.
The first 3 former Soviets state to join NATO was vehemently opposed by the US. The Poland leader as at that time in a meeting in Praque told Clinton that no matter how he opposed it, they will eventually join NATO and that's how the US stand changed drastically to not object to former Soviet joining.

Most importantly, the US don't grant membership, they don't give out membership to NATO. countries that want to join make a formal request to the organisation, if you pass the preliminary requirements , the member state of NATO votes to either accept or reject. It's so frustrating that something so simple is what you guys don't understand.

Russia asking to join NATO is them looking for trouble nothing else. Will Russia ditch her military equipments to start integrating NATO standards and other weapons? The answer is very likely NO. so what do they want with an alliance that doesn't want anything from them?

I asked you what NATO is fighting Russia for, you haven't answered but you claimed the alliance is anti Russian. is present day Russia communist state? No, so what are you even saying.


All I can leave you with is educate yourself more so you don't be typing baseless agenda on a public forum

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by gambojimeta: 12:47am On Feb 22, 2022
CoronaVirusPro:


That one trillion dollar is in Putins account.


Russians are suffering and economy is in decline. Go to better forums and meet Russians. Nothing is happening in Russia as we speak. High level corruption with nothing for the populace.

The aWest has already successfully crippled Russias economy. With Nord going down again, it will only get worse. Investment gone down the drain.
Yeah. He just sacrificed Nordstream 2 just to grab land from Ukraine. That was a dumbass move but most dictators are usually dumbasses anyway. grin

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Re: USA, EU & UK Impose First Stage Sanctions On Russia by frowland(m): 12:48am On Feb 22, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:

You will soon grow up..m grin wink

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