Jonesemmy:

how so??
I'd like to be enlightened more on how le in created the mess

Ukraine got many lands from Russia after they joined the USSR.
Now, Ukraine said they don't want anything to do with Lenin, then Putin told them to return those land back to Russia

Donbas was gift from New formed USSR to Ukraine when she joined

Krismas:
Its a predictable move. Afterall the reason Putin amassed his army on the Ukrainian border to begin with, was because the separatists in Donbas were about to be completely routed. I only don’t think it’s a good move. Donbas is not Crimea. For starts it was Russia who gifted Crimea to Ukraine wen the going was good and wen things fell apart, took back their gift. Donbas may speak Russia, but Putin cannot categorically assure d world those folks wants to join the Russian federation. I see another Afghanistan for Russia in Donbas

It helped Russia because they now have access to Russia passport.
They are Russia citizens
USA recognized Kosovo without UN approved

Bestbeelieve:
he recognises 2 breakaway regions that are unrecognisable worldwide how does that help them??

AmazonTopaz:


He is not smart you people should wake up it was never about NATO.

Putin wants the soviet union back and if he gets Ukraine he is coming for other former states of the USSR.

If the US and its allies don't respond swiftly and stop deceiving themselves about diplomacy Putin is going to invade sovereign nations because he does not believe in their right to exist that is dictatorship nobody should laud this

You got it wrong!
His focus is on Russian speaking countries and Russians living in other sovereign State.

Juventus4life:


You got it wrong!
His focus is on Russian speaking countries and Russians living in other sovereign State.

I met many Baltic state people living in Germany, Ireland and UK, those people don’t joke with their with Mother Russia because that how they always call it.
They will always tell you, if a war broke out, they will run back home and defend mother Russia.
I have never met someone from main Russia or Baltic state Russia, who didn’t lost someone during WW2.
All those Baltic state even banned Russian language, if you need their passport then you must not use Russian language yet the Russian language kept growing stronger.

seunny4lif:
Now, if Ukraine try to use military force, they will face the same thing that Georgia military faced in 2008.
Putin calls Ukrainian territories as “a gift from the Bolsheviks”
Lenin created the mess but Putin will fix it now


The battle of Helm's Deep is over; the battle for Middle Earth is about to begin."

Whoever does not want to negotiate with Lavrov will negotiate with Gen Shoigu

I f*cking love this comment of yours...so succinct....God bless you fah!

We are just pointing out the double standard of so called democrazy world

LadiIshola:


I f*cking love this comment of yours...so succinct....God bless you fah!

olugabbie:


NATO/US are handicap as it stands. He has not invaded. They can't sanction Russia, because if they do. Russia will have nothing to loss if she invades eventually. They also can not use military means, because the situation can quickly change from Russia-Ukraine crisis to world war.

Russia is not interested in reviving the USSR. USSR is gone. All Putin wants is respect. If NATO halts it's expansion Russia will be automatically be at ease. The fear of being alone is what Russia is afraid. Imagine if all the countries in eastern Europe join NATO.

NATO is a military alliance. It was created to counter USSR. Now there is no more USSR. Russia is not as powerful as the USSR. Why the continuous expansion? Which threat is NATO trying to counter? The enemy of a country on it's door step is a serious security concern.

comment totally devoid of emotions....that lady you replied is an alarmist and an American/Western apologist

AmazonTopaz:

Declaring Luhansk and Donetsk a territory under Ukraine is already an invasion don't be naive.
It is going to be a world war crisis because he will go after other USSR former territories he needs to be stopped now.If the west sanctions Russian oligarchs that use money for war and not her economy Russia will lose. The US/NATO are not handicapped they just don't want to be interventionist anymore so they are trying to be diplomatic.


Please stop talking out of point Putin wants the USSR stop sympathising with the cause of a dictator if Putin wants respect he should respect the sovereignty of Ukraine and embrace the fact that the USSR is dead.

My goodness did you see NATO force former states of the USSR to join or they went on their own will, majority of Ukrainians want NATO and the fact that Putin is still nostalgic about the USSR is enough proof of that have you asked yourself why former states of the USSR are interested in joining the west why not ask yourself that since you think Russia is so good that they are running away from it or they should swallow their will because of one man called Putin.
Give me a break

just sh*t up and rest abeg....Russia is fighting for her survival, you cant blame a man for defending himself whichever way he wishes to when someone brings war to his doorstep. You're just a western/American apologist. Rest abeg

LadiIshola:


[s]Just sh*t up and rest abeg....Russia is fighting for her survival, you cant blame a man for defending himself whichever way he wishes to when someone brings war to his doorstep. You're just a western/American apologist. Rest abeg[/s]

You are a clown and stop talking nonsense who is threatening Russia's survival was that what Putin told you did Putin mention that in his speech yesterday common get out

AmazonTopaz:


He is not smart you people should wake up it was never about NATO.

Putin wants the soviet union back and if he gets Ukraine he is coming for other former states of the USSR.

If the US and its allies don't respond swiftly and stop deceiving themselves about diplomacy Putin is going to invade sovereign nations because he does not believe in their right to exist that is dictatorship nobody should laud this

Guy it is not our business in Nigeria let us not take sides blindly

The US acts out of interest not the goodness of their hearts
Where were you when Obama was recognizing rebels in Syria, Libya, Venezuela
Let us not be under any illusions

These superpowers act for SELF INTEREST primarily.
The CIA has overthrown more governments than anyone else

yungmill:



Oh keep drinking the kool aid. Mao of china never killed millions and opposition members in china? Mao never imposed heavy punishment on perceived enemies and wasn't extremely brutal with the major cities all jist because they resisted him. Lenin and stalin were saints bro, the Bolsheviks never exterminated the mensheviks, farmers weren't murdered and lands forcibly seized? Other ethnic groups weren't killed and marginalized in the soviet union, maduro wasn't a dictator, he was no facist who had billions but his citizens were poor and could only afford antic cars till this day?

Yeah no one knows that there was vietnam and vietcom, no one knows that the war was russian expansion and american counter to russian hegemony, no one knows that after the war vietnam, germany, poland aĺl became one again and life was better in the capitalist part as against the communist parts held by russia, ever wonder why none stuck to communism except North korea who are the most facist state on earth, i guess you haven't listened to YEON MI a defector.

Yeah. Blame mythical USA when history shows that all the usa did was counter russia and left after the war in which quality of life became better but hey communism is eldorado, totally liberal with human rights guaranteed and not genocides at all for just being an opposition.


Yeah communism works that china keeps rolling out more policies from capitalism and now allows for private participation in the economy! Wow isn't communism eldorado and capitalism the devil? Seems the donkey here is you who doesn't know that china now operates a controlled mixed economy and not communism economically but "politically" which is bs because thats not communism.

I bet you are the feminized donkey high on emotions now little girl!



Lastly i truly want to see your uneducated inept failure of a person really try and live up to that threat.

Small boy, you are my bodyguard. I don teach you new things today. You run go begin copy bullshit you see for google. Small ant

seunny4lif:
Donbas was gift from New formed USSR to Ukraine when she joined

Be deceiving urself

Exactly
Putin isn't trying to get into war with his European business partners
That's why he warned Marcron against letting Ukraine join Nato cus that would give them balls to try taking Crimea back by military means , thus causing Nato into a war with Russia.
Now Russia knows she can't beat Nato but Putin knows she won't lose if she goes Nuclear.

Ukraine already made the mistake of trying to join Nato and there's a lot more coming for her . That's a direct threat to Russia

olugabbie:


Reviving the USSR is impossible. The baltic states are now part of NATO. If Putin tries to take back the Baltic states which are now part of NATO, this might lead to a world war. Putin is not stupid. Engage the West in a nuclear war, for what exactly?

Putin does not gamble.

olugabbie:


Ukraine is not a NATO member and it will never be. Sooner or later, Zelenszky will drop the NATO membership ambition.

So all the weapons and war machines been sent to them by nato members are for beautification of kyiv ? See let's stop deceiving our self's, Cuba was once an ally of Soviet union. This allowed Soviet union to mount there missiles on there soil(not american soil). What happened next ? America had a problem with that and accused Moscow of aggression. Well, for the time been, Russia has recognised donbas as a new nation. Ukraine and the west can continue with there romance

Great0ne1:

So all the weapons and war machines been sent to them by nato members are for beautification of kyiv ? See let's stop deceiving our self's, Cuba was once an ally of Soviet union. This allowed Soviet union to mount there missiles on there soil(not american soil). What happened next ? America had a problem with that and accused Moscow of aggression. Well, for the time been, Russia has recognised donbas as a new nation. Ukraine and the west can continue with there romance

Well! I don't know what those weapons are for. Russian troops are now on Ukrainian territory, why is Ukraine not using the received weapons to push them back?

olugabbie:


Well! I don't know what those weapons are for. Russian troops are now on Ukrainian territory, why is Ukraine not using the received weapons to push them back?

They are on donbas territory. Wonder why you guys are crying more than the bereaved. This is similar to ipob and nigeria government. Igbos don't want anything to do with nigeria. By right, every group of people has right to self determination. Go to social media and see how people of donbas region are celebrating and you will tell me who is the aggressor here

Saifullah01:
I think Putin has
outsmarted the West. Ask me how

How

AmazonTopaz:


Keep quiet you are the brainwashed one what does going after Ukrainian territories and agonising over the fact that the states of the union should never have been free tell you? have you not heard about inferred or implied statements in your clownish head [b]you think he would stop at Ukraine right?[/b]in your clownish head Russia has the right to invade Ukraine right what exactly is giving him this need to claim Ukraine if not for his thirst of the soviet union? Imagine trying so hard to defend a dictator and thinking that you are not a propagandist buying into their propaganda because of anti west sentiments.

Go and stop him

Great0ne1:

They are on donbas territory. Wonder why you guys are crying more than the bereaved. This is similar to ipob and nigeria government. Igbos don't want anything to do with nigeria. By right, every group of people has right to self determination. Go to social media and see how people of donbas region are celebrating and you will tell me who is the aggressor here

Whose territory is Donbas? Whose territory is Crimea?

olugabbie:


Whose territory is Donbas? Whose territory is Crimea?

The indigenous people of donetsk and lugansk own the region. Not zelensky or nato . Those people speak Russia and have refused to pledge allegiance to Ukraine government. Ukraine government has refused to conduct referendum for the people that region for obvious reason of loosing.
Please go and read the history of this problem and how West controlled zelensky broke minsk agreement. Don't just jump into conclussion because you heard America and Russia. Alot has changed from the days of stalins dictatorship under Soviet union. Russia is no saint either, but America and nato are very wrong on this occasion.

OMYKROIN:
As usual the mohammadic head slammers will support russia to teach USA lesson because the US is taming their mohammadic terrorism.
Tueh! Cursed fellows.

USA will be another Constantinople

Great0ne1:

They are on donbas territory. Wonder why you guys are crying more than the bereaved. This is similar to ipob and nigeria government. Igbos don't want anything to do with nigeria. By right, every group of people has right to self determination. Go to social media and see how people of donbas region are celebrating and you will tell me who is the aggressor here

Using the example you gave. Imagine if Cameroon decides to deploy it's troops into Biafran territory to help the Biafrans. What do you think will hapen?

Damisic:


USA will be another Constantinople

Ok una win for nairaland because it is eastern ukraine.

But wait ooo, shey una dey support how russia is recognising states breaking off from ukraine, but once it is Igbos breaking away you guys will start foaming from your brain.

Anyway continue enjoying whatever you are enjoying.

useni1:
Small boy, you are my bodyguard. I don teach you new things today. You run go begin copy bullshit you see for google. Small ant

No shits Sherlock from wish!
I guess you are the teacher fela sang about! can't name one successful communist country, doesn't know china isn't "communist" in actual practice anymore, spreads communist propaganda for the failure of communism, i guess it was propaganda that created food shortages and scarcity in the soviet union, i guess it was the usa that made mao and co eliminate millions of his people and stalin disposing of his own people, i guess its the usa that made china implement SOCIAL CREDIT SCORE and imprison UGYOR muslims? I guess its the usa that broke up Yugoslavia not the deficiency of communism.

Lastly why ain't you in venezuela a true marxist state? Is marxism no longer eldorado?. Funny how i shut you up with facts of the top of the dome which you can't counter but pull the usual ignoramus attack on my person but not my points, really clever Einstein from aba! I guess teacher sorry einstein from aba can tell us who sir otto von Bismarck is? Kaiser williams? What is or was prussia? What is ruanda? Who was sir Neville Chamberlain? Who are the Abyssinians? Where in the world is meroe? Who are the punites, cathage? Holstien? Hansiatic league? Please do tell us lord marxist Einstein from wish fela warned us about.

OMYKROIN:

Ok una win for nairaland because it is eastern ukraine.

But wait ooo, shey una dey support how russia is recognising states breaking off from ukraine, but once it is Igbos breaking away you guys will start foaming from your brain.

Anyway continue enjoying whatever you are enjoying.

If ipob goes about it without spreading hate.... It is fine by me



Why won't I support russia when USA could recognize Kosovo and Taiwan



They even forcefully annexed hawaii

yungmill:


No shits Sherlock from wish!
I guess you are the teacher fela sang about! can't name one successful communist country, doesn't know china isn't "communist" in actual practice anymore, spreads communist propaganda for the failure of communism, i guess it was propaganda that created food shortages and scarcity in the soviet union, i guess it was the usa that made mao and co eliminate millions of his people and stalin disposing of his own people, i guess its the usa that made china implement SOCIAL CREDIT SCORE and imprison UGYOR muslims? I guess its the usa that broke up Yugoslavia not the deficiency of communism.

Lastly why ain't you in venezuela a true marxist state? Is marxism no longer eldorado?. Funny how i shut you up with facts of the top of the dome which you can't counter but pull the usual ignoramus attack on my person but not my points, really clever Einstein from aba! I guess teacher sorry einstein from aba can tell us who sir otto von Bismarck is? Kaiser williams? What is or was prussia? What is ruanda? Who was sir Neville Chamberlain? Who are the Abyssinians? Where in the world is meroe? Who are the punites, cathage? Holstien? Hansiatic league? Please do tell us lord marxist Einstein from wish fela warned us about.

ant still they talk. Capitalist America is the greatest disaster ever known to mankind with over 150million homeless and hungry people. Only donkeys and camels should reside in America. America where women give sex for a pot of sour soup. You are indeed a donkey.

useni1:
ant still they talk. Capitalist America is the greatest disaster ever known to mankind with over 150million homeless and hungry people. Only donkeys and camels should reside in America. America where women give sex for a pot of sour soup. You are indeed a donkey.

Town crier keep wailing! Effeminate sisi.

Damisic:



If ipob goes about it without spreading hate.... It is fine by me



Why won't I support russia when USA could recognize Kosovo and Taiwan



They even forcefully annexed hawaii

You are writing from sentiments simple.

yungmill:


No shits Sherlock from wish!
I guess you are the teacher fela sang about! can't name one successful communist country, doesn't know china isn't "communist" in actual practice anymore, spreads communist propaganda for the failure of communism, i guess it was propaganda that created food shortages and scarcity in the soviet union, i guess it was the usa that made mao and co eliminate millions of his people and stalin disposing of his own people, i guess its the usa that made china implement SOCIAL CREDIT SCORE and imprison UGYOR muslims? I guess its the usa that broke up Yugoslavia not the deficiency of communism.

Lastly why ain't you in venezuela a true marxist state? Is marxism no longer eldorado?. Funny how i shut you up with facts of the top of the dome which you can't counter but pull the usual ignoramus attack on my person but not my points, really clever Einstein from aba! I guess teacher sorry einstein from aba can tell us who sir otto von Bismarck is? Kaiser williams? What is or was prussia? What is ruanda? Who was sir Neville Chamberlain? Who are the Abyssinians? Where in the world is meroe? Who are the punites, cathage? Holstien? Hansiatic league? Please do tell us lord marxist Einstein from wish fela warned us about.

Neither capitalism nor democracy is the problem here. But the guardians of these ideologies are the problem. Invading a sovereign nation using false flag is undemocratic. Democracy didn't invade Iraq. It was Bush who invaded. Forcing democracy on sovereign nations using economic sanctions and military action is undemocratic.

Capitalism, Socialism & Socialism are brilliant idealogies in my view. But the guardians (the leaders) of these idealogies are the problem. They don't play by the book most times.

olugabbie:


Neither capitalism nor democracy is the problem here. But the guardians of these ideologies are the problem. Invading a sovereign nation using false flag is undemocratic. Democracy didn't invade Iraq. It was Bush who invaded. Forcing democracy on sovereign nations using economic sanctions and military action is undemocratic.

Capitalism, Socialism & Socialism are brilliant idealogies in my view. But the guardians (the leaders) of these idealogies are the problem. They don't play by the book most times.

If you read my replies to Einstein from wish, all i asked him was to name one successful communist state that thrives, then he deflected with his critical theory bs rooted in cultural marxism, that's why i had to knock some sense into him that capitalism isn't the problem of the U.S but a massive imbalance in the balance of power! Where i defer from you is claiming socialism and communism is good, to me its not, it always breads facism wherever they are implemented and also it forces equity which cannot be achieved in this life hence the beginning of the end, if you tax people based on income then there is no insentive to work hard which kills creativity and the need to innovate leading to stagnation and the death of the economy, look up all communists states that ever lived, the citizens became entitled babies, look at the US, SWEDEN AND FINLAND that are capitalist but have high level of social policies, in the US, half of the populace ain't working and working culture has dropped, there is even anti-work organizations now but they want massive role out of more social policies, sweden and finland has the highest entitled citizens as even without work you can live comfortably because of government assistance leading to the creation of less jobs in Finland, why work when all you need is free? Look at their economies, US is cutting down on foreign spending, sweden now import expatriates and finland is trying to maintain its ailing social welfare system because there are less cash but more social policies to unfold!. Look up the Nordics on the outside they are praised as the happiest and best nations but on the inside the people are tired and wondering who measures the happiness looking at their mixed economies highly socialized to the brink of death.

Mooh247:



Trump practically worships Putin for his influence which made him win Hillary

Trump was Putin's stooge and puppet and he never confronted Russia

.

Lmao. Trump was nobody's stooge or puppet. Trump was and still is a pure realist and that's why the establishment hate him so much.