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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 9:34pm On Feb 22, 2022
of all the four players meet by Austin, only Tella is honest enough with us, the rest are certainly not serious, especially that yeye Olise

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:37pm On Feb 22, 2022
Mujtahida:

Like JohnBullMySon said you are being too idealistic and so far your points are impracticable.

Both approaches go and should go together. Some players will declare for us while some will need convincing. It is what it is.

Some babes were soft work to their husbands while some required convincing. One approach is not better than the other. All join. The most important thing is to get the best.


Keep an open channel. If you need to work too hard to convince, you will need to work harder to keep the person.

We need passionate and committed players.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 9:37pm On Feb 22, 2022
kingphilip:

How do we win him over?

If we decide to hand over the job to convincing him, how will you go about it.

Regarding the bold, I think this is where the passion thegoodjoe was talking about is. If he doesn't care about us, why should we press on?

Because unlike Eze, we need him more than he needs us.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 9:39pm On Feb 22, 2022
do4luv14:
of all the four players meet by Austin, only Tella is honest enough with us, the rest are certainly not serious, especially that yeye Olise
Charlesemeka said he is not better than what we have that is why and he is not good enough for us.

And if I remember clearly, he was one of those clamouring we get the guys when they're not yet known but now he is saying Tella is not up to any of our players.

If he blows tomorrow now, he will be one of those saying we should have capped the guy in March 2022 instead of allowing him to blow first.

But let's keep chasing Olise who said we should qualify first.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 9:42pm On Feb 22, 2022
PurpleHouse:
Because unlike Eze, we need him more than he needs us.
He plays through the middle and on the wings and I'm sure we are already getting choked in the wings with the coming in of Lookman.

Either Eze or Olise is still fine as long as they can improve our midfield.

How long should we chase him? Should Pinnick meet him five more times?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 9:43pm On Feb 22, 2022
kingphilip:

Charlesemeka said he is not better than what we have that is why and he is not good enough for us.

And if I remember clearly, he was one of those clamouring we get the guys when they're not yet known but now he is saying Tella is not up to any of our players.

If he blows tomorrow now, he will be one of those saying we should have capped the guy in March 2022 instead of allowing him to blow first.

But let's keep chasing Olise who said we should qualify first.



this your last statement, which Olise said, pissed be off, that guy isn't serious 100%
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:44pm On Feb 22, 2022
kingphilip:

Charlesemeka said he is not better than what we have that is why and he is not good enough for us.

And if I remember clearly, he was one of those clamouring we get the guys when they're not yet known but now he is saying Tella is not up to any of our players.

If he blows tomorrow now, he will be one of those saying we should have capped the guy in March 2022 instead of allowing him to blow first.

But let's keep chasing Olise who said we should qualify first.

Emekus just dey drag mouth everywhere.. Last week he said Lookman was better than all our wingers..This week he's saying Olise is better than all our wingers grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:46pm On Feb 22, 2022
Meliforme:
The problem with Nigeria is that we favour quick fixes and quick successes over gradual growth and development. We love big names, we love it big, we don't have the mentality to slowly build from the scratch.

Esau is a guy that loves it already made, he loves to hunt down animals he never was a part of their development. He goes to the bush to catch them already grown up and big and then consumes them. Jacob is a guy that favours raising young animals, that at the moment has little to offer him. He patiently nurtures them to full potential. The Esau kind of people will always sell their dignity, honour and birthright to Jacob kind of men, they will always end up begging Jacob.

It is so sad to recall that we once had Eberechi Eze within our grasp, but failed to tie him with a cap because he is not yet a big name.

Ejuke and Nwakali only played matches that are without much consequence in the just concluded AFCON tourney, maybe because of the coach's ego. Ejuke looked demoralised against Guinea Bissau. But our darling coach won't mind begging people that obviously look down on the team.

What will Olise and Eberechi Eze bring to the S.E that we don't already have in Nwakali and Ejuke, is it technique or creativity? Ejuke plays in the Russian league that is not even among the top five leagues in Europe, Nwakali is languishing in Segunda division in Spain, they are not yet big names and therefore should be despised, when it is very clear what these guys can offer. We wait untill they become big names and then we beg them.

Untill we value what we have, untill we develop our youth system and grassroot football, we will continue to beg, we will continue to restlessly venture outside with our FA president and the entire coaching crew to beg a player or two to consider playing for us, we try to appeal to their emotions, we try to evoke sympathy.
Your attempt to diminish the point being made by using the word 'beg' is noted.

I can approach you over and over again for something that I need without begging you. I might even use the word 'please' and it will still not be begging.

Everyday we will not hear word about the importance and usefulness of the local league and the need to source our players therefrom. I've been hearing about this since 1994. The league has not become better.

I simply do not condemn or praise local or foreign born players. If you are a Nigerian and you have the qualities needed to be in the team, great, local or foreign matters not. Should we just give local players the room to feature where we have foreign borns who can do a better job if we succeed in convincing them? Or should we pile up foreign borns just because they are FB when we have quality local players? The answer is no to both questions. Neither LB or FB counts, what counts is quality.

Some foreign players will not give us a hard time, some will. On both sides we will gain some and lose some. It is what it is.

And abeg you guys should leave this Nwakali. He's the dream that never got fulfilled. Enough of him. He simply can't cut it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 9:48pm On Feb 22, 2022
do4luv14:
this your last statement, which Olise said, pissed be off, that guy isn't serious 100%
I tire o.

Is it bad if he helps us qualify?

If he wants to be part of the finale, he should partake in the group stage and not come in after the quarter and semi final to say he played the competition.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovych: 9:48pm On Feb 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Balogun already had an interview where he declared his eagerness to play for us before the Keshi's call.
Well you forget to note that Balogun didn't really have another option as he was playing in German second division when he was called up, also the likes of Akpom, Otigba and Derik Osede have indicated interest to play for Nigeria but were never capped. It still comes to the fact that only those the coach pursues will be selected.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 9:50pm On Feb 22, 2022
Danielnino00:
Emekus just dey drag mouth everywhere.. Last week he said Lookman was better than all our wingers..This week he's saying Olise is better than all our wingers grin
Next week if this Turkey guy, for Trabnospor score hattrick, na to support am to come bench Moses Simon remain.

Humility don take backseat now na Charlesemeka come carry the mantle.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:53pm On Feb 22, 2022
Karlovych:
Well you forget to note that Balogun didn't really have another option as he was playing in German second division when he was called up, also the likes of Akpom, Otigba and Derik Osede have indicated interest to play for Nigeria but were never capped. It still comes to the fact that only those the coach pursues will be selected.
chai I remember fine boy osede of Real Madrid Castilla then

He played on loan at Bolton that signed him permanently then
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:53pm On Feb 22, 2022
kingphilip:

Next week if this Turkey guy, for Trabnospor score hattrick, na to support am to come bench Moses Simon remain.

Humility don take backseat now na Charlesemeka come carry the mantle.
carry which mantle?

U don high?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:53pm On Feb 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Keep an open channel. If you need to work too hard to convince, you will need to work harder to keep the person.

We need passionate and committed players.

Finito.
Not true. And you cannot measure passion and commitment by the initial response to a proposition.

So now that Lookman has declared for us after 4 years of our 'begging' we will continue to beg him harder abi?

You are being impractical
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 9:54pm On Feb 22, 2022
charlesemeka85:
carry which mantle?

U don high?
No na low I low undecided undecided undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:54pm On Feb 22, 2022
Karlovych:
Well you forget to note that Balogun didn't really have another option as he was playing in German second division when he was called up, also the likes of Akpom, Otigba and Derik Osede have indicated interest to play for Nigeria but were never capped. It still comes to the fact that only those the coach pursues will be selected.
otigba beg tire that time na only akpom Dey form big boy then for us cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:54pm On Feb 22, 2022
kingphilip:

No na low I low undecided undecided undecided
better for you
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 13large: 9:55pm On Feb 22, 2022
This nwakali situation is sad because he returned late from the afcon, the club decided to ban him entirely from the senior team. I heard that he was sick and also presented a doctors note, yet, his club turned closed eyes. I believe that, his punishment is too harsh. Suspend him without pay for few games, but to ban him entirely of the senior team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:55pm On Feb 22, 2022
Mujtahida:

Not true. And you cannot measure passion and commitment by the initial response to a proposition.

So now that Lookman has declared for us after 4 years of our 'begging' we will continue to beg him harder abi?

You are being impractical

Being factual. Let things not go his way or get uncomfortable and you might see the toys flying off the pram.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:56pm On Feb 22, 2022
13large:
This nwakali situation is sad because he returned late from the afcon, the club decided to ban him entirely from the senior team. I heard that he was sick and also presented a doctors note, yet, his club turned closed eyes. I believe that, his punishment is too harsh. Suspend him without pay for few games, but to ban him entirely of the senior team

They want to make money off Nwakali and Nwakali feels he sacrificed enough with a pay cut. The problem is Nwakali does not want to sign a new deal.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:57pm On Feb 22, 2022
13large:
This nwakali situation is sad because he returned late from the afcon, the club decided to ban him entirely from the senior team. I heard that he was sick and also presented a doctors note, yet, his club turned closed eyes. I believe that, his punishment is too harsh. Suspend him without pay for few games, but to ban him entirely of the senior team
the club intended to loan him off if he returned on time but his long stay in 9ja made the deal fall through
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:57pm On Feb 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


They want to make money off Nwakali and Nwakali feels he sacrificed enough with a pay cut. The problem is Nwakali does not want to sign a new deal.
who wan give am new deal? shocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 13large: 9:58pm On Feb 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


They want to make money off Nwakali and Nwakali feels he sacrificed enough with a pay cut. The problem is Nwakali does not want to sign a new deal.

Is that enough reason to banish him entirely from the team? Is that legal? We have to learn how to support our own in their time of needs because these Europeans DGAF. NFF has to intervene
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:58pm On Feb 22, 2022
Karlovych:
Well you forget to note that Balogun didn't really have another option as he was playing in German second division when he was called up, also the likes of Akpom, Otigba and Derik Osede have indicated interest to play for Nigeria but were never capped. It still comes to the fact that only those the coach pursues will be selected.


Keshi did not pursue Balogun. That is the danger of begging players. It kind of gives them assurances. Players that reach out are options. That is what I mean by no red carpet treatment.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:59pm On Feb 22, 2022
chrisooblog:
I appreciate your concerns about the risk of the national team being populated with mercenaries like the Kevin Prince Boateng's of this world but the brutal reality is that if we want to stay competitive we would need the foreign based contingent to seriously beef our ranks.

The foreign born players get early and quality coaching unfortunately our bright young stars don't get.

Football like someone said has gone fully scientific. Even when you discover talents local talents you still have to rely on foreign clubs to polish them something most foreign born players have already under gone.

It's good we continue to groom and encourage our young talents but not shun the talented foreign guys too. These two approaches can be adopted simultaneously. The important goal in all of this is getting the best players to rep Naija. No single approach should be followed so single mindedly that the quality of the team suffers i.e. giving chances to a local prospect who is yet to live up to expectation while ignoring a genuinely talented foreign born player who might need just a little convincing.

Succinct and brilliantly expressed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 10:00pm On Feb 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Stop spreading false narratives Osimhen declared himself ready for the AFCON. It was Covid-19 that stopped him from fighting to play for us.

COVID-19 Auba had that he became available for Gabon's last group game? COVID-19 Khazri had that he recovered in time to play against us? Imagine Sarr that doctors declared totally incapacitated before the tournament, did he not stilll play knockouts? Abeg leave that talk. If Osimhen persisted, he would have made it. The pressure from a club, its fans and city is not something you trifle with. If you want to blame Dennis, blame Osimhen too.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:00pm On Feb 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Keshi did not pursue Balogun. That is the danger of begging players. It kind of gives them assurances. Players that reach out are options. That is what I mean by no red carpet treatment.
keshi first reached out to him same time with Sam Sidney and balogun jumped to the offer

Sidney was undecided and when he was about to make up his mind prior to the preparation the 2014 World Cup he was called up by the Germans for a friendly which made him dump us

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:03pm On Feb 22, 2022
charlesemeka85:
who wan give am new deal? shocked

Huesca

He is a starter there so why won’t he be given a new deal ?

Nwakali is not the type of player I fancy ,but as far as huesca is involved he is a starter and very important to them

With the way I saw the situation they are after the crumbs they will get from selling him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 10:05pm On Feb 22, 2022
charlesemeka85:
keshi first reached out to him same time with Sam Sidney and balogun jumped to the offer

Sidney was undecided and when he was about to make up his mind prior to the preparation the 2014 World Cup he was called up by the Germans for a friendly which made him dump us
The same way wey Olise go dump us to go play u21 when he should be starting matches for us.

Let the undecided continue to be undeciding too after we qualify for the world cup.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 10:07pm On Feb 22, 2022
kingphilip:

I tire o.

Is it bad if he helps us qualify?

If he wants to be part of the finale, he should partake in the group stage and not come in after the quarter and semi final to say he played the competition.


if they invite the guy after we qualify, then Austin, pinnick and everyone at the Nff are EWU.....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 10:09pm On Feb 22, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Huesca

He is a starter there so why won’t he be given a new deal ?

Nwakali is not the type of player I fancy ,but as far as huesca is involved he is a starter and very important to them

With the way I saw the situation they are after the crumbs they will get for selling him


His excuse for reporting late After Afcon is even lame, it doesn't had substance, even with the Doctor report

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:14pm On Feb 22, 2022
chrisooblog:
Bros how else do you want them to show this passion by getting nailed on a cross?

Balogun has suffered countless injuries playing for SE yet he's ever committed.

Aina was crying hot tears after our loss to Tunisia.

Aribo always committed as well.

Ebuehi despite not being in the original squad for 2021 afcon didn't pull diva stunts when he was called up as a replacement.

Even the local ones how can you measure their commitment and passion? Players we have to beg and pamper to show up for a match. Ordinary bench that Dennis was sitting for Moses Simon he was giving rohr attitude. Aina and Tyrone that were ignored a lot of times in favor of shehu still showed commitment to the team.

He has a barometer for measuring passion and commitment and the instrument judges those two qualities by a player's first response to a proposal to feature for Nigeria. If you immediately say yes, you are passionate. If you say no, you are not regardless of the possibility that in the future you might say yes after Pinnick has BEGGED you

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