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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 10:59pm On Feb 23, 2022
raumdeuter:


If Cuntay is qualified enough they will hand over Messi to him to coach. The coach wey dem give Juve Inter and Chelsea and cannot make a semi final. No wonder Burnley dey brush am
Quote me when apariola stop getting disgraced in Europe...nor be to dey nak Burnley and Watford by 10 goals...local league merchant
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 11:00pm On Feb 23, 2022
Simeone is very overrated.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:00pm On Feb 23, 2022
CAPdan21:

Quote me when apariola stop getting disgraced in Europe...nor be to dey nak Burnley and Watford by 10 goals...local league merchant

Quote me when Cuntay makes a CL semi final. Ordinary CL semi wey the likes of Leipzig Lyon dey make don turn problem for Cuntay. Naggelsman is mid 30s he has played a CL semi, Cuntay with about 15yrs coaching experience 0 CL semi
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:01pm On Feb 23, 2022
swiz123:
Simeone is very overrated.

Thats what happens to all these park the bus coaches. They can use their tactics to cause upsets once in a while but long term sustaining it? No they always fail
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Actman05: 11:02pm On Feb 23, 2022
Havertz10:
that Burnley coach tho, guy is a hustler, saw his team languishing in relegation zone, was wondering why they didn't sack him, can see why now, they will eventually finish above 15th at the very least
Burnley were never going to be relegated. Sean Dyche knows how to pick the odd points here and there.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 11:06pm On Feb 23, 2022
raumdeuter:


Thats what happens to all these park the bus coaches. They can use their tactics to cause upsets once in a while but long term sustaining it? No they always fail

He felt Correa was more suited to parking a double decker bus than Felix. That man is just clueless.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 11:06pm On Feb 23, 2022
swiz123:
Simeone is very overrated.

Because of what exactly ?

Because he couldn’t beat Man U ?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 11:07pm On Feb 23, 2022
So poor.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 11:09pm On Feb 23, 2022
BlueMann:


His positioning for that goal was just off
Very terrible.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 11:09pm On Feb 23, 2022
Sometimes, footballers make shocking decisions. Reinaldo's decision to go for that interception makes him come off as mentally deranged.

Oblak should be ashamed of himself as well. That was a very shocking goalkeeping. A few inches movement from him would have seen him leave the post entirely.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:11pm On Feb 23, 2022
swiz123:


He felt Correa was more suited to parking a double decker bus than Felix. That man is just clueless.

Why did he spend that money on Felix in the first place if he wants to park the bus. He has wasted like 2plus years of his career now under Simeone

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 11:12pm On Feb 23, 2022
leprous 5 and their inane takes again... either it is stanning weak players like havertz, ozil and jorginho or it's blasting any coach that does not follow their Fraudiola system of sexy football as overrated...2 times laliga winning coach simeone with 2 CL final appearance without spending 1 bn is overrated??...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 11:13pm On Feb 23, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Because of what exactly ?

Because he couldn’t beat Man U ?

Because he chooses to play stupid football with a very good squad.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 11:15pm On Feb 23, 2022
SonOfZzoro:

Same Thiago that is chopping bench for pedri in Spain? Bro If you are good, you are good no matter your age, Remember It was 18 year old mbappe that lit up 2018 WC
whether Thiago chops 20 benches is not my concern..look at the profile of players attached to certified midfield greats and pick the odd one out, na just shameless hype job that pedri's talent does not warrant...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 11:16pm On Feb 23, 2022
swiz123:


Because he chooses to play stupid football with a very good squad.

Agreed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 11:17pm On Feb 23, 2022
SonOfZzoro:

Same Thiago that is chopping bench for pedri in Spain? Bro If you are good, you are good no matter your age, Remember It was 18 year old mbappe that lit up 2018 WC
Thank you ooh. I wonder if you must reach a certain age before you are recognized in football no matter what you do
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 11:18pm On Feb 23, 2022
Looks like oblak was heading to the corner flag grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 11:22pm On Feb 23, 2022
swiz123:


Because he chooses to play stupid football with a very good squad.
Honestly. I expected him to switch from 3 atb after he got the first goal and push Lodi to the wings, A better thinking coach would have seriously hurt united in midfield especially with their mistakes tonight, Now he risks being eliminated at old Trafford, Many predicted he'll win la liga once he added griezmann to his already rich attack, Now he risks being knocked out at old Trafford and not even qualifying for next season's UCL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:25pm On Feb 23, 2022
raumdeuter:


Thats what happens to all these park the bus coaches. They can use their tactics to cause upsets once in a while but long term sustaining it? No they always fail

Simeone is 11 years in the job and has taken that club from a top 8 team to La Liga Champions twice including just last season, two Europa leagues, two Super Cups and a UCL final

Say what you want but he has proved his longevity. Only Ferguson and Wenger put that amount of time in a club and none recently with any success

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:53pm On Feb 23, 2022
Ibime:


Simeone is 11 years in the job and has taken that club from a top 8 team to La Liga Champions twice including just last season, two Europa leagues, two Super Cups and a UCL final

Say what you want but he has proved his longevity. Only Ferguson and Wenger put that amount of time in a club and none recently with any success

At this point where Madrid and Barcelona are at historic lows. One would expect Simeone to be more dominant given that he built this team, spent money on it. But in La Liga he is even struggling and his park the bus and counter style is getting stale in Europe

Simeone did more when his teams were underdog vs now when his rivals are parading below par squad

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:12am On Feb 24, 2022
Emmynator:

You have to apply deduction to understand, if can't do that, then sorry.

That's a very poor reportage, which deserves the trash can.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:12am On Feb 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


At this point where Madrid and Barcelona are at historic lows. One would expect Simeone to be more dominant given that he built this team, spent money on it. But in La Liga he is even struggling and his park the bus and counter style is getting stale in Europe

Simeone did more when his teams were underdog vs now when his rivals are parading below par squad

Simeone has £93m NetSpend in his 11 years, half of what point and kill managers will spend in 1 season. Not all fingers are equal.

If you think his players are good, it's because he made them so. Who knows Oblak, Mandava, Lodi, Vrsaljko, Gimenez, Herrera, Llorente or Savic (big Man City flop) if not for Simeone?

The attacking managers that were managing their mates like Valencia, Villarreal, Deportivo, where are they now? What that nigga has done is take an Everton level team and put them in your consiousness as a top team consistently for 11 years and you are busy criticising. Even managers don't stick around more than 3 or 4 years these days because players get tired of hearing their voice, so for a nigga to be winning league ten years later is laudable.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 12:15am On Feb 24, 2022
Ibime:


Simeone has £93m NetSpend in his 11 years, half of what point and kill managers will spend in 1 season. Not all fingers are equal.

If you think his players are good, it's because he made them so. Who knows Oblak, Mandava, Lodi, Vrsaljko, Herrera, Llorente or Savic ,(Man City flop) if not for Simeone?

The attacking managers that were managing their mates like Valencia, Villarreal, Deportivo, where are they now. What nigga has done is take an Everton level team and put them in your consiousness as a top team consistently for 11 years and you are busy criticising.

You're very correct. The guy took them from where they were finishing below European places to a steady top 3 side, without spending much and building a brand new stadium. He is definitely their club legend.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 12:17am On Feb 24, 2022
In other news, Salah returned our faith in style. Triple-captained the manchi and I wasn't disappointed. cool
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:20am On Feb 24, 2022
Griffon:
In other news, Salah returned our faith in style. Triple-captained the manchi and I wasn't disappointed. cool

You and 5 million others did the same. cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 12:29am On Feb 24, 2022
Ibime:


You and 5 million others did the same. cheesy

Lol. Na where e come dey pain me pass. My efforts to pull off an Einstein were rendered useless grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 1:37am On Feb 24, 2022
Are we expected to make an excuse for Conte after losing to relegation threatened Burnley at Turf Moor?

Some section of Spuds fans are calling for Levy's head, accusing him of failing to support Antonio in the transfer market.

But this is Burnley we're talking about here, isn't the difference in class a widening gulf?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:58am On Feb 24, 2022
Ibime:


Simeone has £93m NetSpend in his 11 years, half of what point and kill managers will spend in 1 season. Not all fingers are equal.

If you think his players are good, it's because he made them so. Who knows Oblak, Mandava, Lodi, Vrsaljko, Gimenez, Herrera, Llorente or Savic (big Man City flop) if not for Simeone?

The attacking managers that were managing their mates like Valencia, Villarreal, Deportivo, where are they now? What that nigga has done is take an Everton level team and put them in your consiousness as a top team consistently for 11 years and you are busy criticising. Even managers don't stick around more than 3 or 4 years these days because players get tired of hearing their voice, so for a nigga to be winning league ten years later is laudable.

No one cares what you did some years back, football is about what you have done lately, That is why a Mourinho is at Roma nowadays Atletico will not be judged by where he met them 11yrs ago but where they should be right now. Na someone take take Barcelona from perennial UEFA cup team in the early 2000 to where they are one of Europe's elite, Na someone take Chelsea from midtable to one of Europe's elite, They have all continued to improve the team or left

Ferguson met Man Utd mid table when he first arrived, No one was expecting and telling him that Man utd should be midtable 15yrs into his reign. You think because Moyes met West Ham in lower half he would not be expected to take them above that?
LvG took Bayern from UEFA cup to CL final within a year the moment he fell to 3rd in the league he was fired, No one was considering what he did for them 9months earlier

When you consider that his current squad has the likes of Felix, Griezmann, Lemar are all big money signings, Valencia Villareal and Deportivo are not his mates, None of them are buying a Griezmann or Felix type of player at this point.

If Tuchel goes on a losing run for 1-2months he would be sacked regardless of where he took the club from or what he won since he took over
No one will give Tuchel a pass to finish 6th just because of where he took the team from or what laudable things he has won in this short time just like it was done for RdM

When the topic is Jorginho, Its you that will come and complain that no team plays defensive football to achieve anything, but when its Simeone now, Atletico should be content with fighting for 4th in La Liga and qualifying for CL knockouts with 7 points because of where he took them 11yrs ago

Simeone is one of the highest paid coaches in world football, So he is expected to be delivering like one all the time not just 7 or 5yrs ago

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:10am On Feb 24, 2022
Griffon:
Are we expected to make an excuse for Conte after losing to relegation threatened Burnley at Turf Moor?

Some section of Spuds fans are calling for Levy's head, accusing him of failing to support Antonio in the transfer market.

But this is Burnley we're talking about here, isn't the difference in class a widening gulf?


That's Epl for you.

Last season, Tuchel lost 2-5 at Stamford bridge to West brom, a team swimming in relegation zone, and that didn't stop Tuchel from conquering Fraudiola, Europe and the world.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:22am On Feb 24, 2022
Griffon:
Are we expected to make an excuse for Conte after losing to relegation threatened Burnley at Turf Moor?

Some section of Spuds fans are calling for Levy's head, accusing him of failing to support Antonio in the transfer market.

But this is Burnley we're talking about here, isn't the difference in class a widening gulf?

Cuntay is already making interviews tonight begging to be sacked. This is the coach that we were told takes challenges begging to be sacked in less than 5months in charge

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:29am On Feb 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


Cuntay is already making interviews tonight begging to be sacked. This is the coach that we were told takes challenges begging to be sacked in less than 5months in charge
Distinguished, I said turn off your mic.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 6:57am On Feb 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


No one cares what you did some years back, football is about what you have done lately, That is why a Mourinho is at Roma nowadays Atletico will not be judged by where he met them 11yrs ago but where they should be right now. Na someone take take Barcelona from perennial UEFA cup team in the early 2000 to where they are one of Europe's elite, Na someone take Chelsea from midtable to one of Europe's elite, They have all continued to improve the team or left

Ferguson met Man Utd mid table when he first arrived, No one was expecting and telling him that Man utd should be midtable 15yrs into his reign. You think because Moyes met West Ham in lower half he would not be expected to take them above that?
LvG took Bayern from UEFA cup to CL final within a year the moment he fell to 3rd in the league he was fired, No one was considering what he did for them 9months earlier

When you consider that his current squad has the likes of Felix, Griezmann, Lemar are all big money signings, Valencia Villareal and Deportivo are not his mates, None of them are buying a Griezmann or Felix type of player at this point.

If Tuchel goes on a losing run for 1-2months he would be sacked regardless of where he took the club from or what he won since he took over
No one will give Tuchel a pass to finish 6th just because of where he took the team from or what laudable things he has won in this short time just like it was done for RdM

When the topic is Jorginho, Its you that will come and complain that no team plays defensive football to achieve anything, but when its Simeone now, Atletico should be content with fighting for 4th in La Liga and qualifying for CL knockouts with 7 points because of where he took them 11yrs ago

Simeone is one of the highest paid coaches in world football, So he is expected to be delivering like one all the time not just 7 or 5yrs ago

This argument falls flat in the face once you consider amount spent and achievements.
I mean, we are talking about the current champions of Spain. It's not like it's been ages he last one something.
The other teams you mentioned like Chelsea, Barca, Bayern etc they all sack coaches because they expect a high level of performance considering resources available. Again, SIMEONE HAS NEVER FINISHED BELOW 3RD PLACE. In that same time frame, Chelsea have finished 10th, 5th position two times, 4th position 3 times.

For every star player that was signed, lots of star teams were sold; aguero, Torres, Costa, Felipe Luiz, Adam Turan, Diego Godin, juafran, Griezman and a lot more stars who left at their peak. Ibime has pointed out that simeone's net spend is 93 million. Compared to a bald fraud who has spent 1billion, Simeone is a miracle worker.
We have seen many teams fall off a cliff after building a new stadium. Eg, arsenal. But Simeone has maintained a high level of performance. He is currently 5th,very likely he still finishes 3rd or 4th.
He has been consistent.

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