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After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Workch: 9:06am On Feb 22, 2022 |
They start with the premise that their belief is correct which is a logical flaw. The problem I seem to come across the most when arguing against the theist in real life is an inability to remove their faith from their perception of the world… in that, god is always there and they cannot seem to even imagine a world without it. They just don’t seem to have the ability to remove their ideologies, even for a moment. Basically, they have a difficult time considering any other view points because they cannot remove their belief from their perspective, even for a moment. When I get close to having them remove their religious views from their perception of the world, they start talking about how there would be no purpose or meaning if they continue down that path. That without their belief in god, there would be no meaning or purpose so no point in even thinking that way. As if belief in their god has any purpose or meaning. It is as if they cannot even imagine the possibility that a world without their god can exist. The fact that some Christians actually use Pascal’s wager as reason for their belief in Christianity really makes you consider how limiting religion is to the human race. It turns people into cowards who are prisoners of their own mind. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by FERNANDEZISBACK: 9:08am On Feb 22, 2022 |
Ain't gonna lie yve said it all.. Believing fascinating, imaginary things to be real is ignorance that is hard to cure... ![]() Behavioral economists and evolutionary psychologists have demonstrated that most human decisions are based on emotional reactions and heuristic shortcuts rather than rational analysis... Most of the so called religious folks views are shaped by communal groupthink rather than individual rationality, and they cling to these views because of group loyalty. Bombarding people with facts and exposing their individual ignorance is likely to backfire cos they hate the truth.. No proof of the imaginary creature they claim to serve.. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Nobody: 9:11am On Feb 22, 2022 |
Workch: You are right about that. God is omnipresent. |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Workch: 9:18am On Feb 22, 2022 |
PastorMIsBack:can you provide evidence? |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by odinson1(m): 10:07am On Feb 22, 2022 |
PastorMIsBack: It is Illogical for a being to be Literally Everywhere at Everytime. So he is sitting on his throne in heaven,he is also in a Room where an innocent girl is being raped to death, right? I mean that's what omnipresence is. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by LordReed(m): 10:36am On Feb 22, 2022 |
Workch: This to me is the most perplexing aspect of religion. A system whereby a person can be incarcerated by his own imagination so that he can be made to do almost anything good, bad, atrocious, ridiculous, magnanimous, etc. The worst is when they use this to limit society because they can't free themselves from the knot in their minds. It would be lovely to see people who practise religion without being trapped in their own minds. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:18pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
Workch: Normal! Exactly as you do not accept the real-eyeity of God just Silently Watching the world doing as they please. So, you do the same too. ![]() |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:21pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
FERNANDEZISBACK: And right now, you people are doing the very same "communal groupthink" saying "all those countries that brought you religion have moved on. Religion is old school" You are doing the very same thing. ![]() So, no difference. And people once again are back to CHOICE of "Following the multitude to do evil" or "Separate thyself unto the Coming of Your Lord and Saviour" Corinthians 6:17 'Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. 1 Like |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:30pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
odinson1: Then you have not seen a Chess Board, (Omnipresence) when a pawn or a knight or even a queen is about to be killed, YET THAT IS HOW CHECKMATES ARE EXECUTED. AND THE FORMER DEAD PIECE OR PIECES ARE PUT BACK ON THE BOARD AGAIN ![]() So, you have no point! |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:33pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
Workch: Yes! You vs your robot mannequin you put in the mall or the toys in your wardrobe. ![]() You are near them but they don't know it. |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:40pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
LordReed: You are already imprisoned, that is what it means to be a creation. No matter much you exercise your power of imagination, you can never turn yourself from a man to a bird, from an employee in one office to become C.E.O Dangote Industries Ltd. Exactly as a Pawn can not by itself change into a Knight or Rook, without the Control of His Handler. So, being free in your own minds is exactly as a person laughing when no one can see the reason for his laughter and such persons are called, "Mad". |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by LordReed(m): 2:41pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: [img]https://c./D0IFxCYfuj4AAAAC/yawn-guy.gif[/img] 3 Likes |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Dtruthspeaker: 2:47pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
LordReed: Translation; "I no fit counter, so make I open mouth chop air and fly". |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by LordReed(m): 3:17pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
LordReed: Dtruthspeaker: 2 Likes |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by xproducer: 4:13pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
Are at least some "Theists" not in fact... GOD's witnesses? Who is a witness? wit·ness | \ ˈwit-nəs \ Definition of witness (Entry 1 of 2) 1: attestation of a fact or event : TESTIMONY 2: one that gives evidence specifically : one who testifies in a cause or before a judicial tribunal 3: one asked to be present at a transaction so as to be able to testify to its having taken place 4: one who has personal knowledge of something 5a: something serving as evidence or proof : SIGN b: public affirmation by word [/b]or example of usually religious faith or conviction the heroic witness to divine life "Now [b]faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." - Hebrews 11:1 "This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true. And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written everyone, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen." - John 21:24-25 +++ Believe the good news! "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." - John 5:24 "But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him: That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?" - John 12:37-38 |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by MJBOLT: 10:48pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
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Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by LordReed(m): 9:04am On Feb 23, 2022 |
odinson1: That's why I refer to their god as a porn watcher to drive home the point. One Christian lady told me she feels safe thinking her god is watching her UnCloth, take a bath and other private things. Like how do you think any of that makes sense for such a being, it is utterly ridiculous to even contemplate. 1 Like |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by killyaselfie: 11:47am On Feb 23, 2022 |
PastorMIsBack: Omnipresence that can be foiled by nightgowns. I read an anecdote about some nuns who took showers with their nightgowns in order to be modest and hide their bodies from the all seeing omnipresent Lord. The Lord can see through roofs and walls but he just cannot see them titties through the nuns’ gowns! 2 Likes |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by LordReed(m): 7:57am On Feb 24, 2022 |
killyaselfie: LMAO! What a farce! |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:18am On Feb 24, 2022 |
killyaselfie: You people are everything evil O, such that you would even rely on the stupidity of stupid people just to make any point even an empty one? The desperation no be here. |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:22am On Feb 24, 2022 |
killyaselfie: You people are everything evil O, such that you would even rely on the stupidity of stupid people just to make any point even an empty one? The desperation no be here. LordReed: Even resorting to Blatant Lies? Chai! Sometimes is happening! God is certainly coming Closer and the evils are crying out, for their time is running out! ![]() |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by LordReed(m): 9:33am On Feb 24, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: Unlike you I don't need to resort to lies and obfuscation to defend my position. See the tweets below.
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Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:56am On Feb 24, 2022 |
LordReed: You presented your opinion as one who had personal knowledge of the fact when in fact it was hearsay "One Christian lady told ME" AND THIS IS WHERE YOU LIE. Now, to your hearsay evidence, every reasonable person can obviously see that your fellow reedian's comment was very ambiguous capable of many interpretations as any reasonable person can reasonably infer. So clearly, while he may be talking about a certain man or men eg CIA watching a certain target in the bathroom, she reasonably sees God, Who Watches Over her, like Body Guards knowing she is in the bathroom even without looking in. Different Views! Yet, because it is known that people usually understand and know the TRUE view from which a person views a matter in a social environment, she therefore freely and without no interest to serve, presented her own view But typically of evil people like you and your fellow reedian, though it appears you are talking about the same thing, HOWEVER, IT IS SEEN IN TRUTH THAT YOU ARE NOT! But that is the point of your being a Satanist, YOU THRIVE IN CONFUSIONS AND LIES AND MISREPRESENTATIONS! So, your defence is immaterial! You can keep the Office of Last Worder! |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by LordReed(m): 10:21am On Feb 24, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: LMAO! There we go with the obfuscations. The entire conversation is still there and it is public. Those with eyes can read and understand and not rely on obfuscationists like you. 1 Like |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Dtruthspeaker: 10:23am On Feb 24, 2022 |
LordReed: Yes. And those with eyes can indeed see the different views each person has in mind. |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by LordReed(m): 10:28am On Feb 24, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: Yes they can see you're an obfuscationist.
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Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Dtruthspeaker: 11:12am On Feb 24, 2022 |
LordReed: Proving that you and Maximus Reed is the same person only discharges you from being called a Liar. BUT IT DOES NOT DISCHARGE YOU OF MANUFACTURING CONFUSION AGAINST THE WORLD. IT DOES NOT DISCHARGE YOU OF YOUR FAILURE TO GIVE GOOD APPRECIATION AND UNDERSTANDING TO PERSON WHO PRESENTED HER OWN REASONABLE GOOD VIEW ON THE MATTER. IT PROVES YOUR GUILT OF GIVING AN EVIL UNDERSTANDING IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW SOCIAL MEETINGS WHICH IS THE LAW OF "GOOD FAITH TRANSACTIONS" AND NOT BAD FAITH EXPRESED IN THE LAW "IN THE ABSENCE OF EVIL, GOOD MUST BE PRESUMED" BUT YOU JUST MUST BE EVIL AT ALL TIMES IN ALL PLACES IT DOES NOT DISCHARGE YOU OF THE WICKEDNESS AND EVIL OF PUTTING HER IN AN EVIL WICKED LIGHT JUST TO STEAL AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAB AT GOD. I CAN GO ON AND ON, BUT IT IS SUFFICIENT I STOP HERE. SO, YOU ARE STILL GUILTY OF EVIL AND WICKEDNESS AS SATAN. AND VERY GUILTY OF YOUR WORD OF THE DAY CALLED "OBFUSCATION" WHICH OF COURSE MEANS "CONFUSION." SO NO CASE, NO ROAD! |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by LordReed(m): 11:20am On Feb 24, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: Mr Obfuscationist, at least you have admitted you lied by calling me a liar. LoLz |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Dtruthspeaker: 11:31am On Feb 24, 2022 |
LordReed: ![]() Thus, you learn that prima facie accusation is not the same as Lying. ![]() So I have admitted to making a prima facie accusation, but I never lied. So, No Case, No Road!ll |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by LordReed(m): 11:51am On Feb 24, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: You: Dtruthspeaker: Dtruthspeaker: Want to keep obfuscating? Mr Obfuscationist, you didn't merely accuse me you insisted that I was lying but now you have been shown to be the liar you want to use obfuscation to cover up. LoLz. |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:07pm On Feb 24, 2022 |
LordReed: ![]() ![]() So as always No Case, No Road!l! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: After So Many Conversations With Theists, This Is My Conclusion About Them. by killyaselfie: 12:34pm On Feb 24, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: Prima facie, you are one stupid animal. |
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