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Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by dhareh: 10:22am On Feb 25, 2022 |
Rugaria: A very good point of view �� As much as we all see Putin as a dictator and as much as we all know war isn’t good for anyone, Putin standing up against Ukraine and NATO relationship is very important for Russia a your Nigeria Chad examples explains that clearly. Any president that has a foresight will never allow that to happen……. Imagine Canada pledge that allegiance to Russia, White House wouldn’t take that lightly…… US and NATO have always been finding a way to break Russia’s intelligence and military strength. Ukraine should know better that US and the rest wouldn’t send their troops to invade Russia on their behalf, they will only support them with ammunitions. as much as I don’t like dictatorship, I’m with Putin on this. He deserves to protect his country against future threats. And those sanctions on Russia you’re seeing wouldn’t stop them, US and NATO stands to loose more. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by Blackfriday: 10:26am On Feb 25, 2022 |
Rugaria:Oga stop rambling nonsense. The person you quoted isn't glorifying the West or US, the broader effect of the fall out between Russia and Ukraine is what he his trying to make you understand. Since you don't like the present world order, WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE? Russia can take over Ukraine, North Korea can take over south, same thing with China taking over the weaker nations, Nigeria can take over Niger republic and so on. The world is already a shitty place, do we make it more shitter. Logical reasoningsoning is not so hard. |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by Aguogba(m): 10:27am On Feb 25, 2022 |
Richy4:They're "ethnic warriors" for local politics and "global political analysts". The former must be eliminated, then we can make some headway. |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by Adakintroy: 10:28am On Feb 25, 2022 |
hopefulLandlord: Yeah just like you have said little without saying much. |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by saintadeola: 10:29am On Feb 25, 2022 |
I do not support war,but west is hipocrites, no standard country will want enemy at her boundaries,what uk and US can accept,they want Russia to av it,we knew how Israel is dealing with there Palestinian neighbour,if west interfare, u are inviting more escalation,they have to deal with d situation with wisdom,putin is a mad man He can shock u again with his weapons,he never even use anything with Ukraine |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by Richy4(m): 10:35am On Feb 25, 2022 |
Aguogba:My brother, if u scroll down and read some of the sound analysis here, u might be surprised.. U wouldn't know it was an amateur analysis... They are really good... How I wish the law makers can ask the youths of this nation what they think on how to make the country a better place 1 Like |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by chika0072(m): 10:39am On Feb 25, 2022 |
ivandragon:Rightly summarized... |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by buckeyemedia: 10:53am On Feb 25, 2022 |
Rugaria:Some Nigerian youths still get logical comprehensive reasoning. |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by madridguy(m): 10:56am On Feb 25, 2022 |
All we need is one love. |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by ike007(m): 10:59am On Feb 25, 2022 |
FERNANDEZISBACK: What what about what USA and Israel is doing to their neighbors? What about what USA is doing to Cuba that has sent the Cubans back into the 60s? |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by ike007(m): 11:01am On Feb 25, 2022 |
ivandragon: O don't think he does o. USA rather has that expansionist agenda... judging by how they have expanded beyond the western hemisphere into the Eastern block. Russia simply woke up from their slumber. |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by Eniitan19(m): 11:04am On Feb 25, 2022 |
It's only those that support the West that will blame Putin. Every Russian who believes in the continual existence of Russia will support him. Everyone knows that Russia is not in good terms with the West. So what the West is doing is to create strain relationship between Russia and her neighbouring countries, romance the neighbors and thereafter plant their military bases there and around Russia. Secondly, the West knows that Ukraine is strategic to Russia being that it serves as a link between Russia and Europe. Also don't forget the strategic ports in Crimea that Ukraine leased to Russia to use as Russia Naval bases and also for economic activities. You remember the lease agreement was not to be renewed before Russia annexed Crimea. Most importantly, Russia and Ukraine are like brothers. So tell me which president will fold his arms and allow his enemies to use his neighbors to destabilize his country. Can US or UK allow that. |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by Thinktwicemybro: 11:09am On Feb 25, 2022 |
Rugaria:I disagree with some of your point 1 NATO is a responsible organization and not a terrorist organization like ISIS, Boko Haram etc.so don't compare them. 2. Russia have been acting in a criminal manner against Ukraine by backing terrorist against the government of Ukraine. 3. Ukraine is a sovereign country but Russia does not respect that. 4. NATO came to the picture following continuous support Russia keep giving the seperatist groups. 5. Ukraine accept to join NATO because Russia refuse to allow them live in peace. 6. NATO has come to stay in Ukraine and the world needs this to tame the beast called Russia. |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by Juventus4life: 11:18am On Feb 25, 2022 |
Rugaria: Your head dey Derek joor. America are doing the same thing in Asia. All these America soldiers in Japan, South Korea and other Asian countries are just there to intimidate China. 1 Like |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by Damian10(m): 11:35am On Feb 25, 2022 |
I hear say p square don come back ahbeg nah tru? |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by ivandragon: 11:37am On Feb 25, 2022 |
ike007: Well, you may be right about USA being the ones with an agenda especially given the reality of neocolonialism. But there are a couple of issues I think need to be considered... 1. Until about the late 1800s, what is known as Ukraine today, was an independent territory until it was annexed by the Soviet Red Army. So Ukraine has a longer history of independence than Russsia wants us to believe. 2. Russia has always treated Ukraine as an appendage since the balkanisation, & as a threat since pro-democratic forces took over power in Ukraine, a key factor why Ukraine applied to join NATO. 3. If Russia was against Ukraine joining NATO, it could apply progressively severe economic, political & social sanctions... even a quarantine action (lesser form of blockade) to force Ukraine to reconsider its stance. A full scale war was not necessary... in my opinion... 4. After cowering Ukraine, Russia will now share borders with about 3-4 other former Soviet States that are now NATO members. Will it also invade them to 'secure' its own borders? In all, I think Russia has made its point, but it has also showed that it is really a threat to surrounding sovereign nations... |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by Okpara10: 11:59am On Feb 25, 2022 |
But on a serious note, Russia is undermining Ukraine's sovereignty or where there any clause in Ukraine's constitution recognizing or empowering Russia to sanction their "choice" of association? Nato on the other hand is not responding with the full force this provocation requires. |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by Babinski: 12:08pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
wirinet: And what has been the result of such actions by NATO or US? Do they now have Libya as allies? Do they now have Syria as allies? |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by doshiyad1: 12:17pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
helinues: Wahala! wetin them even say e bi like sef? |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by LogicBomb8: 12:19pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
MERCHANDISER: Exactly why would russia allow the u.s have a base in ukraine through N.A.T.O which is a weapon of the west and an instrument of america. |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by doshiyad1: 12:19pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
Rugaria: After invading a sovereign nation? ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by kabillionaire(m): 12:22pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
NATO is a defensive organization yet they aggressively invaded Libya thereby creating problems for Africa that will take over half a century to correct. Perhaps the west is using Ukraine to test Russia's will power, there's news flash for then, they're in for a long ride. Russians are not known to making empty threats. FERNANDEZISBACK: |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by LogicBomb8: 12:23pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
FERNANDEZISBACK: But there was a refrendum and more than 90% of crimea voted out of ukraine |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by doshiyad1: 12:23pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
FERNANDEZISBACK: Hmm! NATO and Putin all of them have selfish interest with different approach finish but Putin own na ehm bad pass. |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by abdlkay(m): 12:29pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
It's looks like some folks here are just been ignorant of the fact both Russia and NATO/US aint doing this shit for selfish reasons........ See ehhh!!! Make we dey try dey objective if we want to be open minded , there is no way you would be justifying the actions of NATO/US infiltrating and pokenosing into the affairs of other non NATO members (less developed countries, sovereign and the likes) for some selfish reasons and even using military force to bind them to do their biding, yet nobody is condemning their actions or calling for their head. Dem ask you why US abi NATO dey bombard, kill and infiltrate other countries wey dem no get business with you no fit answer am yet you dey talk gibberish on top Russia attacking Ukraine dey use sovereign country bullsh.... as an excuse. Despite not been in support of Putin's unwarranted military attacks/invasion of Ukraine, I also don't align with the way NATO are trying put up a facade in the name of accommodating Ukraine as a member whereas they have an ulterior motive for doing that. |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by doshiyad1: 12:30pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
Rugaria: Following! All of them na the same thing. Let the winner take all. I only pity the innocent people of Ukraine honestly. God please show mercy and intervene for the very innocent ones. Amen! 1 Like |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by Blesyn22(m): 12:37pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
The war of Russia vs Ukraine/NATO/USA is as a result of the fear of the unknown. The west as always been known to be fronting several elements of any given country to take it over. You can never see the west openly or directly causing mayhem; they do it under a guise. Russia in her own interest is defending her territory against future invasion. Vladimir Putin had a military orientation before joining politics and he's acting in that sense compared to one who had a total civilian orientation. All in all its the fear of the unknown causing this mayhem. The relative peacenis too much for the powers that be yo bear. This thread has really been educative... |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by abdlkay(m): 12:39pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
doshiyad1: Bro....you just hit the nail on the head, gbam!!! Make person no dey use sovereign nation as any excuse, where una dey when NATO/US Dem dey attack smaller countries wey be sovereign nation. PS: Ain't supporting Russians/Putin's actions, just trying to say that, all this sh.... ain't got nothing to do with a countries sovereignty, just like what NATO/US do on a regular to LDCs or a passived enemy. |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by JOemmy(m): 12:41pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
Putin is really a very bad guy he kept denying that Russia doesn't have any intentions of invading Ukraine yet still ended up invading the country. |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by JOemmy(m): 12:44pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
Where is even the UN when you need them most what's stopping them from coming together and imposing a no fly zone order over Ukraine to stop this massive russian invasion? |
Re: Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) by sammysmiles(m): 12:54pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
![]() alabo1:When did Putin offered to join NATO and was rejected? |
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