Nairalanders never fail to disappoint. The ignorance here stinks to high heavens. When i see how people are regurgitating the western media propaganda i start asking myself what the future of Nigeria will be like with such uninformed youths.

As usual the mainstream media is fooling all of you and I'll explain whats actually going on as briefly as possible .

During the soviet Union era, the soviets wanted to build an international military base in Cuba which was and still is in major alliance with Soviet / Russia. The then American president resisted at all course. That's because missile warheads could have easily been launched from cuba into the United States. At the fall of the soviet Union, western nations signed an agreement that NATO will not move into former Soviet colonies and that countries such as Ukraine will never be a part of NATO or be armed with nuclear capabilites.

Fast forward how many years after, NATO flouted those rules and are not only trying to bring Ukraine into NATO, they are also trying to Arm Ukraine to the teeth, a move which is very dangerous to the security and safety of Russia.

How will America and the other Westerners feel if Russia were to build military bases in places like Canada, Mexico, Bahamas etc surrounding the United States. MAINSTREAM MEDIA WILL NEVER POINT THIS OUT.

There are other cities in Eastern Ukraine such as Luhansk and Donbas, that want to willingly join Russia because they are Russian speaking people who have accepted Russian citizenship. Do not also forget that crimea willingly joined Russia and the people were so happy to display their Russian passport. That news even made it to nairaland front page but as usual, a lot of you forgot.

If America will not allow Russia building bases next to them, they and their western counterparts should also stop pushing into Russian territories under the pretence of NATO expansion.

Russia does not have a big media machine like the west and that's why we have been getting one sided information. Same thing they did with the biggest lie in History called covid SCAMdemic. Don't be too quick to conclude. Search for the truth, its Important.

https://www.nairaland.com/7004569/hidden-truth-russian-vs-ukrainian


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uSSHvRwpKk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3DSWum3Okw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCjmn69PQ3c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ZgMgRuccw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOmW-F0zM_w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhIIUiic8kw

Oh my God!

I cannot believe that there are still knowledgeable people on this forum!! Just when I was about to give up on Nairaland.


Bottomline: If US wants to build bases in Ukraine, then Russia must be allowed to build bases in Cuba, Mexico etc.

You're right but crimea was annexed and they did not willingly join Russia.

Russia always have had spies in Crimea and always kidnapped their indigens who stood against Russia.

I've been wondering what the war is all about. Now I have the right information and I must say that the west are to blame. Leave Ukraine alone if it was agreed earlier.
Op most people on nairaland are id10ts.

Truthwords:
Nairalanders never fail to disappoint. The ignorance here stinks to high heavens. When i see how people are regurgitating the western media propaganda i start asking myself what the future of Nigeria will be like with such uninformed youths.

As usual the mainstream media is fooling all of you and I'll explain whats actually going on as briefly as possible .

During the soviet Union era, the soviets wanted to build an international military base in Cuba which was and still is in major alliance with Soviet / Russia. The then American president resisted at all course. That's because missile warheads could have easily been launched from cuba into the United States. At the fall of the soviet Union, western nations signed an agreement that NATO will not move into former Soviet colonies and that countries such as Ukraine will never be a part of NATO or be armed with nuclear capabilites.

Fast forward how many years after, NATO flouted those rules and are not only trying to bring Ukraine into NATO, they are also trying to Arm Ukraine to the teeth, a move which is very dangerous to the security and safety of Russia.

How will America and the other Westerners feel if Russia were to build military bases in places like Canada, Mexico, Bahamas etc surrounding the United States. MAINSTREAM MEDIA WILL NEVER POINT THIS OUT.

There are other cities in Ukraine that want to willingly join Russia because they are Russian speaking people who have accepted Russian citizenship. Do not also forget that crimea willingly joined Russia and the people were so happy to display their Russian passport. That news even made it to nairaland front page but as usual, a lot of you forgot.

If America will not allow Russia building bases next to them, they and their western counterparts should also stop pushing into Russian territories under the pretence of NATO expansion.

Russia does not have a big media machine like the west and that's why we have been getting one sided information. Same thing they did with the biggest lie in History called covid SCAMdemic. Don't be too quick to conclude. Search for the truth, its Important.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uSSHvRwpKk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3DSWum3Okw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCjmn69PQ3c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ZgMgRuccw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOmW-F0zM_w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhIIUiic8kw

Those of you who justify Russia's bullying actions against Ukraine always use the Cuba Missile crisis as an excuse.

While its a fact that Ukraine is nursing being a NATO member, does this justify Russia's invading Ukraine?

Why not attack the USA who has been luring former Soviet states into NATO.

Oh! I guess , its because Ukraine doesn't have nuclear weapons.

Russia wouldn't have the boldness to tell a sovereign nation on how she should live or who to be friends with if Ukraine have not foolishly given up its nuclear weapons.


And if Ukraine has internal unrest of its citizens not wanting to be part of the country, is it the responsibility of Russia to support the rebels?


So according to you , it is right for US to invade Nigeria and arm IPOB who are wanting to brake away from Nigeria.
Does that make sense?

Truthwords:
Nairalanders never fail to disappoint. The ignorance here stinks to high heavens. When i see how people are regurgitating the western media propaganda i start asking myself what the future of Nigeria will be like with such uninformed youths.

As usual the mainstream media is fooling all of you and I'll explain whats actually going on as briefly as possible .

During the soviet Union era, the soviets wanted to build an international military base in Cuba which was and still is in major alliance with Soviet / Russia. The then American president resisted at all course. That's because missile warheads could have easily been launched from cuba into the United States. At the fall of the soviet Union, western nations signed an agreement that NATO will not move into former Soviet colonies and that countries such as Ukraine will never be a part of NATO or be armed with nuclear capabilites.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhIIUiic8kw

see lies and halftruth.. abeg bring up the treaties and lets discuss it..

the invasion of ukraine has nothing to do with cuba or any of that

there are plenty ways to look at issues.. we can look at it from russia angle, ukraine angle, the usa angle, the EU angle and even the africa angle and as such bias can be tailored..

there is Minsk agreement which was not clearly factored in after 2014.. the annexes of the crimea, the invasion of sovereign nation militarily can never be justified by innuendoes and whataboutism

60 percent bor Nigerians are CNN puppets

@op you are uninformed one here and your not knowing is so glaring .. so because USA did it to cuba then russia must do it to ukraine, what about the right of the people and the sovereignity of the country, what about condemning what is wrong and insist to hold people and country to highest standard of actions?? the act of whataboutism is stupidity and hypocrisy of the highest order

moving forward, even russians are protesting against putin, a lot numbers of high ranking govt officials in russia have written against the war, even a security chief was encouraging decorum to putin before he was bullied on national television..
A day to the invasion, all station was broadcasting in russia criminalizing any protest against the war with jail and imprisonment, if that is not self defeating mimes then i dont know what..as much as russia might have its fear, invasion is not the answer and putin was not invading ukraine because of NATO, it is just an excuse for a larger plan which putin himself alluded to that in some of his broadcast when he began his not recognising ukraine as a soveriegn nation, and rambling about russia empire which means, it goal extend far above ukraine, the same way he started with crimea, then donbas and now full invasion but we are all sure he will lose last last and russia citizen will suffer for it economically

SarkinYarki:
60 percent bor Nigerians are CNN puppets

if you think its just cnn, abeg go to Aljazerra, reddit, quora and other big forums with diverse view and lets see where the opinions diverge to.. no one in his right sense will support the invasion when all other avenue have yet to be exhausted...even india that just signed a multibillions military and economy plan in december is against russia on this, even china the biggest ally of russia is againt the invasion, so what are u guys all about...

in the end russia will suffer, already its stock market is in trouble with over 30% down and it currency is at all time high losing over 7% ina space of 2days despite its central bank seriously defending it, with more heavty sanction on the way, only God can help that country and i hope putin himself is not assasinated by the billionaires oligarch that are already feeling the heat...economy isolation was what destroyed ussr and won the cold war and the same thing is playing out again...we saw what happened in 2014 to russia rubble with the invasion of crimea

two of the biggest bank in russia financing most govt military infrastructure is already in trouble with over 70% sanction melted on them, its only a matter of time...putin cant hold out much longer and we reasonable people hope this war is halted and putin take control of his ego

America government has already said this yesterday in his speech that he can't send his soldiers to Ukraine because Ukraine is not her allies neither they trade together he made it know that Ukraine aren't useful to them because they don't share border.

But for the sake of humanity there's no rational justification for wasting innocent lives at this stage .


Also I can see some people started backing Russia because there's cordial agreement between west and Soviet union in the past ,Do you know the same agreement also existing between west and Palestine?

Till today western are the brain behind the war in middle east western don't keep to agreement especially that uk . Up till now nobody ready to answer Palestinians question.

Imagine Palestinians are strong like Russia maybe by now their question would have been answer.

Most people think America is how Hollywood portray it to be, and still get brainwashed by western media.

European leaders are shit scared of Russia especially Germany but they won't admit publicly except toothless social media sanctions.

One major leverage the US got over Europe is the amount of European gold stored in Fort Knox.

Only a few will understand..

The stupidity and ignorance in most black people is the reason why the continent is like this. Hopeless

beejaay:


if you think its just cnn, abeg go to Aljazerra, reddit, quora and other big forums with diverse view and lets see where the opinions diverge to.. no one in his right sense will support the invasion when all other avenue have yet to be exhausted...even india that just signed a multibillions military and economy plan in december is against russia on this, even china the biggest ally of russia is againt the invasion, so what are u guys all about...

in the end russia will suffer, already its stock market is in trouble with over 30% down and it currency is at all time high losing over 7% ina space of 2days despite its central bank seriously defending it, with more heavty sanction on the way, only God can help that country and i hope putin himself is not assasinated by the billionaires oligarch that are already feeling the heat...economy isolation was what destroyed ussr and won the cold war and the same thing is playing out again...we saw what happened in 2014 to russia rubble with the invasion of crimea

two of the biggest bank in russia financing most govt military infrastructure is already in trouble with over 70% sanction melted on them, its only a matter of time...putin cant hold out much longer and we reasonable people hope this war is halted and putin take control of his ego

Why are you all acting like Russia is the aggressor? . NATO cunning plan to expand to Ukraine is unacceptable ... Russian tank columns have entered Kyiv and there will be change of govt within 48 hours and this will be over ..

Lipscomb:
America government has already said this yesterday in his speech that he can't send his soldiers to Ukraine because Ukraine is not her allies neither they trade together he made it know that Ukraine aren't useful to them because they don't share border.

But for the sake of humanity there's no rational justification for wasting innocent lives at this stage .


Also I can see some people started backing Russia because there's cordial agreement between west and Soviet union in the past ,Do you know the same agreement also existing between west and Palestine?

Till today western are the brain behind the war in middle east western don't keep to agreement especially that uk . Up till now nobody ready to answer Palestinians question.

Imagine Palestinians are strong like Russia maybe by now their question would have been answer.

Now imagine, the same America via Israel has kept Palestine under siege and what has the world said about it?

Do you know the same number of innocent lives the US wasted in the middle East and recently Libya under the guise of democracy?

It was obvious they won't send troops to Ukraine but kept pushing them. America just want to win a war of media emotions..

Lipscomb:
America government has already said this yesterday in his speech that he can't send his soldiers to Ukraine because Ukraine is not her allies neither they trade together he made it know that Ukraine aren't useful to them because they don't share border.

But for the sake of humanity there's no rational justification for wasting innocent lives at this stage .


Also I can see some people started backing Russia because there's cordial agreement between west and Soviet union in the past ,Do you know the same agreement also existing between west and Palestine?

Till today western are the brain behind the war in middle east western don't keep to agreement especially that uk . Up till now nobody ready to answer Palestinians question.

Imagine Palestinians are strong like Russia maybe by now their question would have been answer.

which agreement between palestine and the west...abeg bring am make we see...the same palestine that was asked to recognise isreal with a two state proposal and got rejected by them only for isreal to get stronger and now begging for the same thing they rejected...have we all forgotten how 3 or different countries attacked isreal at the same time shortly after the country was formed with a support from palestine only for isreal to defeat them all...the only sad part is the lost of innocent lives for the ego tripping of some deluded slowpoke

I'm not a Muslim but I will never support impunity the land Israelites occupied today belong to Palestinians Israel wasn't only chase Palestinian away from their land but killed them in cold war.

One day Palestinians question shall be answer. The problem maker uk and us will be put to shame.

Ramon92:
Now imagine, the same America via Israel has kept Palestine under siege and what has the world said about it?

Do you know the same number of innocent lives the US wasted in the middle East and recently Libya under the guise of democracy?

It was obvious they won't send troops to Ukraine but kept pushing them. America just want to win a war of media emotions..

Please I'm begging you dont quote me again and again I don't follow people who dont have information arguing dont make me a fool.

beejaay:


which agreement between palestine and the west...abeg bring am make we see...the same palestine that was asked to recognise isreal with a two state proposal and got rejected by them only for isreal to get stronger and now begging for the same thing they rejected...have we all forgotten how 3 or different countries attacked isreal at the same time shortly after the country was formed with a support from palestine only for isreal to defeat them all...the only sad part is the lost of innocent lives for the ego tripping of some deluded slowpoke

SarkinYarki:


Why are you all acting like Russia is the aggressor? . NATO cunning plan to expand to Ukraine is unacceptable ... Russian tank columns have entered Kyiv and there will be change of govt within 48 hours and this will be over ..

its like you dont ebven understand what is going on in ukraine...the airport that was initially seized by russia have been taking over back by ukraine and russia need that airport for logistic, ukraine can destroy the runway and make it useless if they feel they can or dont have the resources to fight back the russians, and with that airport out of the way russia logistic will be hard, we all know logistic is a super integral part of any war... also the advancement from crimea is moot while that from the donbass region is not getting anywhere....
also ukraine is getting all the support from EU and US except for boot on ground while russia is getting sanctioned to smitten...ukraine have the time to fight it out while russia cant handle a prolong of the war, it will be decimated and could be the end of that once giant country...

to understand how the war is going and it sdynamism, one need to stop defending anyside and look at it from strategy and humanity POV...
just 2 days and banks stock is down by over 40% and currency by 7%, now imagine a prolong war with heavy sanction still coming up especially with UK seriously proposing cutting russia out of SWIFT and nordstream2 already suspended...putin is not learning from history, economy isolation is what destroyed ussr not tanks

and for the record russia is the aggressor here cos ukraine is a soveriegn nation and invading a soveriegn nation under whatever disguise make u an aggressor...same way USA was the aggresor in libya, iraq

the unbias info is not on cnn or bbc or mainstream media..the real info is right there on reddit, twitter, quora where different communities are talking directly from their views and opinions can be better formed

Lipscomb:
Please I'm begging you dont quote me again and again I don't follow people who dont have information arguing dont make me a fool.

and please if you dont want to be quoted, pls dont post on public forum, and please go and learn about history before spewing jargons everywhere

sotall:

Those of you who justify Russia's bullying actions against Ukraine always use the Cuba Missile crisis as an excuse.

While its a fact that Ukraine is nursing being a NATO member, does this justify Russia's invading Ukraine?

Why not attack the USA who has been luring former Soviet states into NATO.

Oh! I guess , its because Ukraine doesn't have nuclear weapons.

Russia wouldn't have the boldness to tell a sovereign nation on how she should live or who to be friends with if Ukraine have not foolishly given up its nuclear weapons.


And if Ukraine has internal unrest of its citizens not wanting to be part of the country, is it the responsibility of Russia to support the rebels?


So according to you , it is right for US to invade Nigeria and arm IPOB who are wanting to brake away from Nigeria.
Does that make sense?

Don't mind these useless propagandists

If you believe op snd his misinformation, you are an idiot. Russia has no justification to invade Ukraine. Why?
Ukraine has not joined either of NATO or EU. Russia pushed them to make the move of joining in NATO after Russia annexed crimea. In 2019, Ukraine ratified her constitution to join NATO.
If Russia wants alliance with Ukraine, it should do that with juicy offers. The truth is that Russia has nothing to offer the world beside AK47 which you will see everywhere. Liberal nations have contributed to the world development than Russia and her friends.
Ukraine is becoming more liberal and Russia does not like that. Liberalism is not good for sit-tight president like Putin.

Wow learning about history?my first degree in history and international politics right now doing my master in diplomacy and economic history.

This Palestinians and Israelis issues I'm ready to school you with evidence but I just don't have enough time although you will still dispute the facts reveal to you because I know you are a igbo Christian.

beejaay:


and please if you dont want to be quoted, pls dont post on public forum, and please go and learn about history before spewing jargons everywhere

Lipscomb:
Wow learning about history?my first degree in history and international politics right now doing my master in diplomacy and economic history.

This Palestinians and Israelis issues I'm ready to school you with evidence but I just don't have enough time although you will still dispute the facts reveal to you because I know you are a igbo Christian.

degree in history and blabla and yet you dont know about what happened when two state solution was proposed for bothe of them and palestine rejecting it cos they feel they were more powerful then....history degree and yet you don know about the war on isreal by sorrounding countries immediately isreal was formed only for all of them to be defeated... yes isreal might have become the aggresor now and palestine was the aggresor at some point and in the war of palestine and isreal, there is no saint or villian, they are both ego tripping and only emition will make one to support one or the other...isreal is guilty and palestine is also guilty and the only victims here are the people that continue to suffer for what they dont even understand or want

Lipscomb:
I'm not a Muslim but I will never support impunity the land Israelites occupied today belong to Palestinians Israel wasn't only chase Palestinian away from their land but killed them in cold war.

One day Palestinians question shall be answer. The problem maker uk and us will be put to shame.

If you claimed you studied history and you are spitting this, i fear for you. You are one of product bad educational system. Jews returned to their homeland and declared modern state of israel in 1948. Prior to 1948, who was head of state in Palestine? What was form of government? Jews left their homes due to Roman invasion and returned many centuries later and chased away illegal occupants.

beejaay:
@op you are uninformed one here and your not knowing is so glaring .. so because USA did it to cuba then russia must do it to ukraine, what about the right of the people and the sovereignity of the country, what about condemning what is wrong and insist to hold people and country to highest standard of actions?? the act of whataboutism is stupidity and hypocrisy of the highest order

moving forward, even russians are protesting against putin, a lot numbers of high ranking govt officials in russia have written against the war, even a security chief was encouraging decorum to putin before he was bullied on national television..
A day to the invasion, all station was broadcasting in russia criminalizing any protest against the war with jail and imprisonment, if that is not self defeating mimes then i dont know what..as much as russia might have its fear, invasion is not the answer and putin was not invading ukraine because of NATO, it is just an excuse for a larger plan which putin himself alluded to that in some of his broadcast when he began his not recognising ukraine as a soveriegn nation, and rambling about russia empire which means, it goal extend far above ukraine, the same way he started with crimea, then donbas and now full invasion but we are all sure he will lose last last and russia citizen will suffer for it economically

Please keep quiet, even as the facts have been clearly elaborated, you still choose to play ignorant.

sotall:

Those of you who justify Russia's bullying actions against Ukraine always use the Cuba Missile crisis as an excuse.

While its a fact that Ukraine is nursing being a NATO member, does this justify Russia's invading Ukraine?

Why not attack the USA who has been luring former Soviet states into NATO.

Oh! I guess , its because Ukraine doesn't have nuclear weapons.

Russia wouldn't have the boldness to tell a sovereign nation on how she should live or who to be friends with if Ukraine have not foolishly given up its nuclear weapons.


And if Ukraine has internal unrest of its citizens not wanting to be part of the country, is it the responsibility of Russia to support the rebels?


So according to you , it is right for US to invade Nigeria and arm IPOB who are wanting to brake away from Nigeria.
Does that make sense?

When Russia placed weapons in cuba, America deployed 100k troops, weapons and machines ready to invade cuba, is cuba not a sovereign nation. Doesn't she have the right to host Russia military base.
When America invaded iraq, afgan, syria, Vietnam were all these not sovereign nations

joyandfaith:


If you claimed you studied history and you are spitting this, i fear for you. You are one of product bad educational system. Jews returned to their homeland and declared modern state of israel in 1948. Prior to 1948, who was head of state in Palestine? What was form of government? Jews left their homes due to Roman invasion and returned many centuries later and chased away illegal occupants.

Slave mentality, who said the land belongs to those Oyibo people calling themselves so called Jews?

The land belongs to the Palestine, Zombies will forever be slaves to western propaganda.

buckeyemedia:
Slave mentality, who said the land belongs to those Oyibo people calling themselves so called Jews?

The land belongs to the Palestine, Zombies will forever be slaves to western propaganda.

See this Arab slave. Who was head of Palestinian government prior to 1948? Nothing like state of Palestine prior to 1948. Some arab invaders were occupying Jewish homes illegally and they chased them away upon returning.

nedu666:


When Russia placed weapons in cuba, America deployed 100k troops, weapons and machines ready to invade cuba, is cuba not a sovereign nation. Doesn't she have the right to host Russia military base.
When America invaded iraq, afgan, syria, Vietnam were all these not sovereign nations

Don’t mind that sotall ignorant youth.

beejaay:
@op you are uninformed one here and your not knowing is so glaring .. so because USA did it to cuba then russia must do it to ukraine, what about the right of the people and the sovereignity of the country, what about condemning what is wrong and insist to hold people and country to highest standard of actions?? the act of whataboutism is stupidity and hypocrisy of the highest order

moving forward, even russians are protesting against putin, a lot numbers of high ranking govt officials in russia have written against the war, even a security chief was encouraging decorum to putin before he was bullied on national television..
A day to the invasion, all station was broadcasting in russia criminalizing any protest against the war with jail and imprisonment, if that is not self defeating mimes then i dont know what..as much as russia might have its fear, invasion is not the answer and putin was not invading ukraine because of NATO, it is just an excuse for a larger plan which putin himself alluded to that in some of his broadcast when he began his not recognising ukraine as a soveriegn nation, and rambling about russia empire which means, it goal extend far above ukraine, the same way he started with crimea, then donbas and now full invasion but we are all sure he will lose last last and russia citizen will suffer for it economically

According to you, America can put military base anywhere but Russia cannot. When gen austin the nsa was asked what if Russia decides to reopen its military base in cuba, he said the us will neva allow dat to happen but then justifies a military base in Ukraine

nedu666:


According to you, America can put military base anywhere but Russia cannot. When gen austin the nsa was asked what if Russia decides to reopen its military base in cuba, he said the us will neva allow dat to happen but then justifies a military base in Ukraine

i never said that so please reread my comment..what i said is that country allowing and making allies is the sole right of that country and usa or russia and nobody should have the right to invade peoples land for exercising our right....that usa did it in cuba which was very wrong doesnt mean we should support russia for doing the same thing that is wrong in ukraine...no one should have the right to invade a sovereign nation under whichever pretext...