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Re: Religion Gist by Odunayaw(m): 3:57pm On Jan 10, 2022 |
Mujtahida:Like human law didn't descend from morality. I'm only surprised at your aggression. But it's okay sha |
Re: Religion Gist by Mujtahida: 4:57pm On Jan 10, 2022 |
Odunayaw:Ohh pardon me, I do indeed sound aggressive That's the adamic nature in me I guess (na joke oo) |
Re: Religion Gist by Mujtahida: 4:58pm On Jan 10, 2022 |
Odunayaw:I was actually in court when I responded to you. Apologies for the abrasiveness of my tone. In any case, I think we have reached the end of this discussion. We will only keep going round in circles. Cheers |
Re: Religion Gist by Odunayaw(m): 7:05pm On Jan 10, 2022 |
Mujtahida:you this man en |
Re: Religion Gist by Odunayaw(m): 7:07pm On Jan 10, 2022 |
Mujtahida:True. But it was good talk. |
Re: Religion Gist by Mujtahida: 7:10pm On Jan 10, 2022 |
Odunayaw:Sure. Peace |
Re: Religion Gist by Odunayaw(m): 5:19pm On Jan 14, 2022 |
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Re: Religion Gist by Odunayow: 10:04pm On Feb 23, 2022 |
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Re: Religion Gist by LordReed(m): 8:09am On Feb 24, 2022 |
Amazing how much gatekeeping has to be done just to justify what is obviously unjustifiable. |
Re: Religion Gist by Dtruthspeaker: 8:51am On Feb 24, 2022 |
Mujtahida: Wrong! Then you have not heard of Vicarious Liability or Liability Voluntarily Acquired , Wilfull Acceptance of Liability etc. |
Re: Religion Gist by Dtruthspeaker: 8:59am On Feb 24, 2022 |
Mujtahida: Wrong! Then you have not heard of Vicarious Liability or Liability Voluntarily Acquired , Wilfull Acceptance of Liability etc. Mujtahida: Clearly, the Bible meant that you sin, just as your father did, hence you inherit his ability to sin. Mujtahida: Then you do not get have any of his goods eg property, money in bank etc. But he who takes your father's benefits must always take his debts. |
Re: Religion Gist by Dtruthspeaker: 9:02am On Feb 24, 2022 |
Mujtahida: Which in court? In court as in lawyer or in court as in witness/visitor or in court as in party to a dispute? |
Re: Religion Gist by Dtruthspeaker: 9:06am On Feb 24, 2022 |
LordReed: Amazing how invaders complain about gatekeeping when their unlawful attacks are met with resistance. Chai, Satan na big bastard! |
Re: Religion Gist by Mujtahida: 6:27pm On Feb 25, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:Vicarious liability for a DEBT? Are you a lawyer? I'm asking this not condescendingly but just so I know who I'm engaging. please let's remove this discussion from the domain of religion and talk law. Show me using legal authorities where the principle of vicarious liability which is a principle in the law of tort has been applied to debts. And just so you know we are talking debt as debt with no qualifying elements. For example Mr A borrows 50M from Mr B and has refused or neglected to pay back. That's what we are looking at. All the other categories - voluntary acceptance of liability or willful acceptance of liability - do not apply to the analogy because what I am talking about here is that I am not liable for my father's sin and so nobody can voluntarily accept to pay back a debt that I myself did not inherit and the reason is that my father's debt is my father's. So how can you voluntarily accept to pay it for me in the first instance when the debt is my father's and not mine because in law debts are not inherited. It can be passed on to the estate of the debtor but note that the estate of a man is not any of his children personally such that because a man is indebted you can now go and take from his child's pocket to satisfy the debt THROUGH THE PROCESS OF LAW So first deal with how my father's debt becomes my own debt. That is the crux here. Show me decided authorities where a man was indebted and his son was ordered by the courts to pay his father's debt. |
Re: Religion Gist by Dtruthspeaker: 5:23am On Feb 26, 2022 |
Mujtahida: Offence not taken and very joy filled to be engaged. When a person is liable, he is IN DEBTED or Debited or a Debt is placed on him. Damages and compensations are all DEBTS placed on a person liable. Mujtahida: I'll be happy to show you The Law at work and in work in. Mujtahida: Which is why I answered that "the Bible meant that you sin, just as your father did, Hence You Inherit His Ability To Sin.. So the debt of sin is your own debt because it is your own son. And being your own debt, any person can step up on your behalf to pay same of course you reserve the Right to Refuse Help. Haven identified and narrowed the issue, all previous commentd are now Obiter. |
Re: Religion Gist by Mujtahida: 4:10pm On Feb 26, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:Show me with decided authorities how vicarious liability applies to the issue of personal debt. |
Re: Religion Gist by Kobojunkie: 4:33pm On Feb 26, 2022 |
Mujtahida:Those Christians are technically right for saying that to you this since it is impossible to have truly belonged to God only to then turn your back on Him, this as taught in scripture. So don't take it personally since it is a core aspect of the belief itself. Those who truly belong essentially becomes puppets in the hands of the one who is the puppet master and are hence will never be lost to Him. |
Re: Religion Gist by Kobojunkie: 4:56pm On Feb 26, 2022 |
bazooka1:1. The Bible is a compendium of books, all of them written by humans, so definitely there are flaws and gaps to be found in many of what is expressed in the books. 2. Ofcourse not! 3. Scripture exists beyond the confines of what is your Bible and your Catholic Bible. 4. Go for it! 1 Like |
Re: Religion Gist by Kobojunkie: 5:10pm On Feb 26, 2022 |
bazooka1:Well, only Paul, the supposed author of that there letter can explain what he meant there by a third heaven. |
Re: Religion Gist by Dtruthspeaker: 6:20pm On Feb 26, 2022 |
Mujtahida: So it is settled that "the Bible meant that you sin, just as your father did, Hence You Inherit His Ability To Sin. which was what I intended addressing. So I move on to liability for debt caused and owed by another. (Vicarious Liability. On the authority of Ordinary Natural Living it is seen how people have taken up debts which was not their own cause eg Paying School fees, Rents, (you would even see this one here in Nairaland) damages of property eg cars, (Car talk section attests to this). Even building houses for people they do not know like what some couple of people in the east did for one elderly woman and co last year Maintenance given to girlfriends, girlfriends friend, girlfriends family etc. So without going too far, even right before your eyes, you have seen people being Vicariously liable for matters which they have no business carrying or taking up, yet they of their own will, did verily take them up as their own debts. Here are examples of a person taking up the debt of another https://www.nairaland.com/3871390/paid-debt-today-after-20#57673366 |
Re: Religion Gist by Mujtahida: 6:58am On Feb 27, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:Since you couldn't cite any decided case it is obvious that I've wasted my time engaging you. No more |
Re: Religion Gist by Dtruthspeaker: 9:28am On Feb 27, 2022 |
Mujtahida: it would have been a honour to you to have submitted than for me to have to tell you that" you say this because it very obvious that you can not rebut nor challenge Truth". AFTER CITING REAL LIVING DECIDED CASES Bet you never heard this principle of Law "There is No Valid Argument Against Truth" Therefore, it is impossible for you to validly oppose, as you already knew. Most especially as your major grievance on Adams debt has been explained that "the Bible meant that you sin, just as your father did. Hence You Inherit His Ability To Sin". So you really did not have any valid thing to say after that. |
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