donjazet:


All these are semantics. Religious people SHARE a common doctrine or Creed. Agnostics are by definition irreligious. They don't have a shared set of beliefs and doctrines. Rather , disbelief in any doctrine. Why the prolonged argument over definition?

You claimed to be an ex-Christian now let me ask you, do all Christians share the same doctrinal beliefs? Does that make them not to be religious? That a group of people differ in viewpoints don't make them irreligious in/by Principle.

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donjazet:


You can understand that not many Chelsea fans like myself would be brave enough to make a distinction between roman and Chelsea.
I can't stop supporting Chelsea because of Roman but I'm not foolish enough to continue to cheer for the criminal despite our shared love of the club.

Any right-thinking Chelsea fan would be able to separate the man from the club. He's a criminal first before anything. A hardened cold-blooded killer who just happened to have a soft side for Chelsea, the same way Escobar had a soft side for animals.

And moreso Abrahmovic owning Chelsea was just a means to an end for him, the same way Escobar built schools and homes for the poor in Medellin. These acts of "generosity" were not altruistic in purpose but a cynical attempt at buying love and public approval for political purposes.

However, we all now know that both are criminal masterminds.

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Alaye rest

Amoto94:

Whatever you say is irrelevant. Whether you like to admit it or not you ascribe to a philosophical position and you defend it with your supposed proofs and you claim that is not your faith? Tijani you're not as dull as this argument is making you look like but you're caught up in this mess because you're trying to defend the indefensible.

If you are forcing someone to accept something he's not, he's prooobably not religious.
I don't see christians or moslems who would argue for a long time that they're not christians.

Amoto94:

Whatever you say is irrelevant. Whether you like to admit it or not you ascribe to a philosophical position and you defend it with your supposed proofs and you claim that is not your faith?

You're simply saying nonsense. If I say I don't have a religion, you're not the one to tell me I do.

Everyone must not share in your delusions about reality or slam their head on the floor being the slaves of the Arabs.

To ignorant and delusional people like you, anything and everything is a religion and a belief system even when it's clear agnostics don't have shared religious faith.

donjazet:


If you are forcing someone to accept something he's not, he's prooobably not religious.
I don't see christians or moslems who would argue for a long time that they're not christians.

Why do many criminals plead not guilty despite damning evidence of their guilt?

My problem with you "free thinkers" is that you claimed to uphold logic and reason as the basis to accept or reject something but when the same is applied to your beliefs you will reject it and resort to insults and whatever else you can find to obfuscate the truth. You people should have some shame and decency to admit that you hold a belief system.

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popizaino:


I wanted to comment as the match was going on but I avoided it because I knew jorginho fan boys will bring something unrelated or completely different to compare with it or give stupid excuse that it is Lukaku who is too static to be assisted.

What is special there that Jorginho haven't done over and over again?

Go and watch the highlight of the first woodwork that Leeds hit. Focus on Horjberg (spell check) in that play sequence. If Jorginho did what Horjberg did there, we won't hear the end of it. He was just fortunate that the ball ended up hitting the bar.

Just rest. The comparison is all in your head.

andrewbaba44:


When ref Dey FAVOUR una you no make noise

The most favoured team in the epl remains manure and Liverpool

I remember when ref refused to send off James Milner against mancity

I could share you a link to ESPN to prove to you that Liverpool isn't favoured by Var but I don't think you would read it...

Infact, last season, Liverpool was one of 3 clubs most affected negatively by Var...
I could also share you that link but I don't think you would read it too...
Everything's agenda to you guys....

The screenshot is from ESPN.....
Rest....

Amoto94:

Why do many criminals plead not guilty despite damning evidence of their guilt?

Because they don't want to go to jail. They are scared of punishment. How does this equate to Islam's who vehemently deny being Islam? Have you come across one?

donjazet:


Because they don't want to go to jail. They are scared of punishment. How does this equate to Islam's who vehemently deny being Islam? Have you come across one?

A person facing persecution

Amoto94:
My problem with you "free thinkers" is that you claimed to uphold logic and reason as the basis to accept or reject something but when the same is applied to your beliefs you will reject it and resort to insults and whatever else you can find to obfuscate the truth. You people should have some shame and decency to admit that you hold a belief system.

Lols, this is a simple issue. Someone says he doesn't have a religion, but you want to force the person to have one.

Everyone — except delusional and mischievous people — knows the world's religions and the irreligious.

Just rest with this your mischievous agenda; it's an effort in futility.

A001:

Lols, this is a simple issue. Someone says he doesn't have a religion, but you want to force the person to have one.

Everyone — except delusional and mischievous people — knows the world's religions and the irreligious.

Just rest with this your mischievous agenda; it's an effort in futility.

Insults upon insults

Amoto94:

Insults upon insults

Just rest with your agenda to force everyone into belonging to a belief system against their will.

There are many things more important in life than religion and the worship of an imaginary entity.

Astrid4:
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Ya extremely dumb as in really dumb,so being Russia oligarchy makes him a politician do you even understand the term Russia oligarchy, lets me school you kid


Russian oligarchs are business oligarchs of the former Soviet republics who rapidly accumulated wealth during the era of Russian privatization in the aftermath of the dissolution of the Soviet Union in the 1990s. The failing Soviet state left the ownership of state assets contested, which allowed for informal deals with former USSR officials (mostly in Russia and Ukraine) as a means to acquire state property. Historian Edward L. Keenan has drawn a comparison between the current Russian phenomenon of oligarchs and the system of powerful boyars which emerged in late-Medieval Muscovy.

The first modern Russian oligarchs emerged as business-sector entrepreneurs under Mikhail Gorbachev (General Secretary 1985–1991) during his period of market liberalization.[2] These younger generation entrepreneurs were able to build their initial wealth due to Gorbachev's reforms "when co-existence of regulated and quasi-market prices created huge opportunities for arbitrage."


Russia oligarchy are business men not necessary politician

You are the dumb and ignorant one here,go and school the fellow ignorant people in your compound...

Check your dictionary for the meaning of oligarch,you are now talking in the nonsense and composing history wey dem no ask you ..

the question is, IF HE WAS NOT GUILTY THEN WHY IS HE STEPPING DOWN AS CHELSEA OWNER?

The reason is in the screenshot below

timbros:


What is special there that Jorginho haven't done over and over again?

Go and watch the highlight of the first woodwork that Leeds hit. Focus on Horjberg (spell check) in that play sequence. If Jorginho did what Horjberg did there, we won't hear the end of it. He was just fortunate that the ball ended up hitting the bar.

Just rest. The comparison is all in your head.

Ok.

Amoto94, see the level of orderliness of these Ukrainians trying to flee from their cities due to the crisis with their more powerful neighbor.

Ukraine has much less churches and mosques Nigeria has; yet, any slight issue, Nigerians would scatter everywhere.

If you think it's religion that makes people law-abiding and productive, then you're clearly wrong.

Some of the most religious societies in the world are the most corrupt and disorganized, e.g. Nigeria, India.

EmmanuelScott1:


Alaye rest

when it comes to criminals. I'm uncompromising.
Nonetheless I understand the phase you are in right now. I was there and it took me awhile to get to my senses.

When you see yourself vehemently defending a politician or a billionaire, you know you have most likely been brainwashed.
These are people who have gamed the system and done all sorts of nasty things to get to the top.

For many years here, when Roman Abrahmovic's picture was posted here, it was showered with platitudes and praises; Omo baba olowo, our sugar daddy, our rock upon which we stood and others.
We could only be eternally grateful for all he had done for us.

We chose to be blind to his faults. We never asked ourselves why we never heard from him in all our years of supporting the club or showering him with praise. We chose to be willfully blind to his very dark history. We fall for his scheme to whitewash his image.

Well, I'M NO LONGER BRAINWASHED. I hope you don't continue to bend your moral compass for this criminal. You can definitely separate Chelsea form the man. The club will always be bigger than any individual.

SAY NO TO SPORTSWASHING.

Kloppo:


You are the dumb and ignorant one here,go and school the fellow ignorant people in your compound...

Check your dictionary for the meaning of oligarch,you are now talking in the nonsense and composing history wey dem no ask you ..

[s]the question is, IF HE WAS NOT GUILTY THEN WHY IS HE STEPPING DOWN AS CHELSEA OWNER?[/s]

The reason is in the screenshot below

Abramovich is still the owner of Chelsea but he will no longer be responsible for making decisions at the club.

Away from the religious argument wahala.....abeg the finance guys in the house is it a good decision to buy dollars for keeps as a store of value as a Nigerian in Nigeria at this present time?(taking into consideration what is happening on the global scene)

Amoto94:

A person facing persecution

Soo am I facing persecution?? Why are you forcing me to be acknowledge what I'm not?

Agnostics DO NOT belief in the existence of a god, HOWEVER, they are OPEN to reviewing new knowledge about it and could theoretically change their stance. That's the distinction between atheists and agnostics.
Do you think a moslem is genuinely open to converting to Christianity? Is that not regarded as apostasy?

A detailed thread on Twitter on the criminal history and actions of our criminal owner. RA for Roman Abrahmovic. VP for Vladimir Putin.

donjazet:

when it comes to criminals. I'm uncompromising.
Nonetheless I understand the phase you are in right now. I was there and it took me awhile to get to my senses.

When you see yourself vehemently defending a politician or a billionaire, you know you have most likely been brainwashed.
These are people who have gamed the system and done all sorts of nasty things to get to the top.

For many years here, when Roman Abrahmovic's picture was posted here, it was showered with platitudes and praises; Omo baba olowo, our sugar daddy, our rock upon which we stood and others.
We could only be eternally grateful for all he had done for us.

We chose to be blind to his faults. We never asked ourselves why we never heard from him in all our years of supporting the club or showering him with praise. We chose to be willfully blind to his very dark history. We fall for his scheme to whitewash his image.

Well, I'M NO LONGER BRAINWASHED. I hope you don't continue to bend your moral compass for this criminal. You can definitely separate Chelsea form the man. The club will always be bigger than any individual.

SAY NO TO SPORTSWASHING.

But without this criminal's deep pockets, you, including most (if not all) Chelsea fans that started following the club in the 2000s, won't be supporting the Blues.

Most would have been Manchester City's (because of Pep's brilliance) or Manchester United's fans as Chelsea would have been a mid-table club or a top 10 club in the EPL at best.

A001:

But without this criminal's deep pockets, you, including most (if not all) Chelsea fans that started following the club in the 2000s, won't be supporting the Blues.

Most would have been Manchester City's (because of Pep's brilliance) or Manchester United's fans as Chelsea would have been a mid-table club or a top 10 club in the EPL at best.

True. It's never too late to change or evolve in our opinions. One must never be dogmatic in his belief. You act according to new information processed.

We chose to be willfully blind and negligent to the criminals dark history and now we are seeing some of the fruits of his past actions. Innocent lives right now are being slain because he was a vital cog of an autocratic authoritarian regime.
We cannot continue to shower him with encomiums and platitudes knowing now how much of a criminal he was.
Anybody who continues to look upon Roman Abrahmovic with good feelings has a rotten moral compass. It shows how willing you are to bend your moral compass for criminals in as much as you're the beneficiary of the criminal.

donjazet:

True. It's never too late to change or evolve in our opinions. One must never be dogmatic in his belief. You act according to new information processed.

We chose to be willfully blind and negligent to the criminals dark history and now we are seeing some of the fruits of his past actions. Innocent lives right now are being slain because he was a vital cog of an autocratic authoritarian regime.
We cannot continue to shower him with encomiums and platitudes knowing now how much of a criminal he was.
Anybody who continues to look upon Roman Abrahmovic with good feelings has a rotten moral compass. It shows how willing you are to bend your moral compass for criminals in as much as you're the beneficiary of the criminal.

True.

As for those saying it was offside....The officials told Frank it wasn't.....

Android22:
I never told you it was not a handball. I told you why the PGMOL did what they did. You can argue with your feelings but they would not affect the fact. I have attached what NBC posted - Tim Howard (interestingly is the one providing the narrative). I will also include the YouTube link so you can listen to him say it. Watch from 2 minutes 45 seconds. Cheers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoeUsbuvLUw

The person that drew and used this line below must have worked and rigged for Inec before.

timbros:


What is special there that Jorginho haven't done over and over again?

Go and watch the highlight of the first woodwork that Leeds hit. Focus on Horjberg (spell check) in that play sequence. If Jorginho did what Horjberg did there, we won't hear the end of it. He was just fortunate that the ball ended up hitting the bar.

Just rest. The comparison is all in your head.

Please remind us when Jogginghoe assisted something like that without going back in ancient history.

Nothing wrong with Hojberg actions when Leeds hit the post. The ball was cleared by Spurs defence away from him into the Leeds player. Camera angle makes it look like ball dropped closer to him than it did. He still pressured the Leeds player to hit the post in the end

Android22:
I never told you it was not a handball. I told you why the PGMOL did what they did. You can argue with your feelings but they would not affect the fact. I have attached what NBC posted - Tim Howard (interestingly is the one providing the narrative). I will also include the YouTube link so you can listen to him say it. Watch from 2 minutes 45 seconds. Cheers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoeUsbuvLUw

airmark:


The person that drew and used this line below must have worked and rigged for Inec before.

Even using this line, Offside no d...Na just something to shift attention...
But it's not sticking up

Na like this City go do for Champions league

Chelsea must do everything they can to distance themselves from Russia and show vehement support for Ukraine. If not, our brand and reputation will suffer.

Are people arguing that Abramovic isn't a friend of Putin? They're friends probably best of friends. Roman recommended Putin this predecessor, Yeltsin. Putin came to power with the help of Roman Abramovic. Of course this doesn't prove Roman Abramovic endorses this conflict happening in Ukraine as even we do disagree with our best friend's actions from time to time but are they friends? hell yeah