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Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by DMerciful(m): 9:09am On Feb 28, 2022 |
USA is one country but each of the states has their own constitution, Supreme Court, electoral body, their own police. And thats why theyre prosperous. Canada has same thing. Why cant we do it here? When you say war, what does that mean? That because they said use your resources to develop yourself then youll start fighting Bayelsa? If you're not viable then merge. Maybe these states shouldn't have been created in the first place. A solution to that would be regional autonomy with regional police force, Supreme Court etc backbencher: 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by mrvitalis(m): 9:11am On Feb 28, 2022 |
backbencher:If Nigerians should pay more tax it simply means south would pay 80% of the tax and north gets 60% of the tax with the present arrangement Are you willing to do that ? ...why should people be made to pay for a project they don't believe in ? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by Nobody: 9:12am On Feb 28, 2022 |
DMerciful: Each of the states indigenes also pay enough tax to maintain those institutions Each of those states are either heavily industrialized, have mechanized agriculture on a large scale or both and the sector's export heavily Nigeria needs to do a lot of changing before we can be at that level That involves making hard choices which i have outlined and which you ignore 1 Like |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by Nobody: 9:13am On Feb 28, 2022 |
mrvitalis: By taxation i mean that northerners and Southerenrs not paying income tax to the state and federal government all pay taxes From the rich man to the poor farmer, herdsmen, hawker, etc etc. Every one. Each state should then have enough to stand on. 1 Like |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by mrvitalis(m): 9:14am On Feb 28, 2022 |
backbencher:No body said dividing the country would solve the problems of Nigeria ...but it would make solving them far easier Which one is easier Igbo youths coming together to hold their leaders accountable since the leaders control resources n security ...or Nigerian youths of different tribes coming together and holding leaders accountable from different angles when they want different things 1 Like |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by Nobody: 9:16am On Feb 28, 2022 |
mrvitalis: Nigeria must get off oil first and indistrialize and export industrial goods and services And we start by removing sibsides on power and oil Then we also ramp up tax collection from the untaxed Then we can talk Good morning. |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by mrvitalis(m): 9:17am On Feb 28, 2022 |
backbencher:Low would that be possible ...tax generated in the north would be far lower than tax generated in the south ....that's the reason tax would never be enforced in Nigeria because it would make breakup easier Keke in Kano went on strike because they asked them to pay #50 a day .. |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by DMerciful(m): 9:18am On Feb 28, 2022 |
Those citizens did not start paying tax for the love of it, No! The state is structured to collect tax or die! When states are faced with existential threats, they become innovative. We cannot be innovative because there's no incentive to do so. Oil money comes from Niger Delta so we can as well abandon our agriculture, limestone etc and wait for month end. You need to put the structure before the result will come and not the other way round. Unless you inadvertently want Nigeria to continue to retrogress forever backbencher: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by mrvitalis(m): 9:18am On Feb 28, 2022 |
backbencher:So we must all wait for all the 36 states to be comfortable before we restructure ? Nigeria wanting every region to grow at the same pace is the reason for agitation in the first place If we continue like this what you are saying won't be achieved till oil become useless 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by Nobody: 9:19am On Feb 28, 2022 |
mrvitalis: I don't care. Each state must generate tax on its own. Next is removing subsidies on power and petrol so that we can have enough electric power to grow industrially Then mechanized agriculture The n once every state stands on its own free from oil money, we can talk. And yes, my idea is better than yours which means resource war. No thanks. |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by amc: 9:21am On Feb 28, 2022 |
gidgiddy: I wouldn't call the North Central "Northerners" when it comes to voting for constitutional change. Half of them will support the agenda of the South (Kwara, Kogi, Benue and possibly Plateau). So a good campaign can force a constitutional amendment but you will also need some Northerners to support you. South HoR = 169 (47% Senators - 51 (47%) North Central HoR = 49 (14%) Senators - 18 (17%) North HoR = 142 (39%) Senators - 40 (37%) |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by Nobody: 9:22am On Feb 28, 2022 |
mrvitalis: Okay, restructure now, fight long war over oil tomorrow, since states at the moment cannot survive without oil money. Or be prepared to pay higher taxes. Or when oil crashes, how would you survive? You want more oil money to chop, like your northern pals. Self sufficiency you and the hausas and yorubas you don't want. Nice talking. I end it here. Nigeria canmot surivie a war over oil. |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by juman(m): 9:24am On Feb 28, 2022 |
The north and south politicians are the same they're only after stealing of money. So if ipob go to represent their region by themselves then you do things rightly. |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by juman(m): 9:29am On Feb 28, 2022 |
Ipob has to go to politics. No sensible alternative way to achieve best for their people. |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by amc: 9:30am On Feb 28, 2022 |
mrvitalis: There is nothing in your post that I didn't cover in my response. Didn't Jonathan win an election (political process) with enough votes in the North (lobbying)? There hasn't been any concerted effort by IPOB to get supporters from other regions to join them and their representatives to push for an amendment to our constitution. All IPOB has been doing right from the beginning is abusing and threatening Northerners (mostly Fulanis) and Yorubas from the South West. Have they ever attempted a political solution and lobbying? If IPOB are not interested or do not believe in a political solution (And it is obvious they don't), then they can continue along the lines that they believe in and face the consequences. But they should not expect others to join them. 2 Likes |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by Tonyman55: 9:53am On Feb 28, 2022 |
backbencher: state police should be the optional... but northerners find it wrong because the are always allergic to peaceful co existence... |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by mrvitalis(m): 10:01am On Feb 28, 2022 |
amc:Forget ipob here ... people who believe in one Nigeria restructured Nigeria should lead by example Do u want Nigeria as it is ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by mrvitalis(m): 10:02am On Feb 28, 2022 |
backbencher:Which war ...let people who have oil enjoy their oil 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by mrvitalis(m): 10:03am On Feb 28, 2022 |
backbencher:How would states generate revenue when they don't control their resources even vat even they are trying to remove it from them 1 Like |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by slimghost(m): 2:47pm On Feb 28, 2022 |
mrvitalis: By getting involved in politics |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by mrvitalis(m): 3:09pm On Feb 28, 2022 |
slimghost:Getting involved in politics ...if 17 governors can't get state police n restructuring why would my joining politics achieve that ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by OGBEREIJEBU: 3:40pm On Feb 28, 2022 |
When you go through political means and you are denied by the majority, the following should be done ....mass resignation of NASS IPOB elected members ........refusal to vote in igbo land .........sit at home protest, this will attract the attention of the world since you have a case and you are Democratical about it. Not just the crude agitation for outright secession |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by NimrodEndOfDays(m): 3:42pm On Feb 28, 2022 |
mrvitalis: |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by NimrodEndOfDays(m): 3:42pm On Feb 28, 2022 |
[s] OGBEREIJEBU:[/s] 1 Like |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by slimghost(m): 4:10pm On Feb 28, 2022 |
mrvitalis: The real influence on national discourse lies with the National Assembly and presidency. |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by mrvitalis(m): 4:25pm On Feb 28, 2022 |
slimghost:So if governors 18 in number can't Influence the national assembly what's the point of me getting involved with politics |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by asanausana91: 4:58pm On Feb 28, 2022 |
Nairalandhotboy:I hope iam not replying a kid. Do you know the meaning of lobby? Do you think ipob will achieve their desires with the barrel of a gun? |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by asanausana91: 5:00pm On Feb 28, 2022 |
mrvitalis:what is restructure? |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by asanausana91: 5:04pm On Feb 28, 2022 |
mrvitalis:the failing will surely start from the east. |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by asanausana91: 5:11pm On Feb 28, 2022 |
Parachoko:do you forget that Nigeria was practicing regional government before? Do you know that the same igbos crying for restructure were the people that destroyed our regional government? The igbos must tell us why they support unity government in the sixties but are against it now. |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by asanausana91: 5:14pm On Feb 28, 2022 |
gidgiddy:what is lobby? |
Re: To Those Asking Ipob To Go Through Political Means by asanausana91: 5:16pm On Feb 28, 2022 |
DMerciful:call Ironsi. He must tell us why he did what he did. |
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