tensazangetsu20:


But Ubunja said women choose. So women choose black short and ugly guys. Okay good so what of guys who aren't chosen. What should they do about sex?

Genuine desire can't be negotiated. Why learn game then since it's already predetermined who's attracted to what and who.

Nothing is predetermined.

Nobody is chosen.

You're just the one who makes everything about money, intelligence and handsomeness. Ugly broke men are having sex and overpopulating the world while you insist it's impossible because of some metrics you live by that aren't even provable.

Because of what the red pill or Mr Ubuja said. Give it a rest.

BRATISLAVA:


Nothing is predetermined.

Nobody is chosen.

You're just the one who makes everything about money, intelligence and handsomeness. Ugly broke men are having sex and overpopulating the world while you insist it's impossible because of some metrics you live by that aren't even provable.

Because of what the red pill or Mr Ubuja said. Give it a rest.

You really believe this .

tensazangetsu20:



You really believe this .

Not the way you're on about it. And certainly not the way you're obsessed with ugly poor men having sex, because you think they can't because they are less than you and your assumptions. Get over yourself.

CaveAdullam:


Since the beginning of the year, my brain cells has been calling me to do a re-evaluation of this topic.

'Not paying for sex' as I'm typing now still wins a good percentage, but there are some gaps that must be analyzed. Example: waiting vs saving time.

Probably, this can be a round table talk on the best approach method, when, where and how to switch positions. Some of the things that can help us with a good analysis: confidence level, genetics, location, desire, time, patience,money, number of women, categories of women/men, hypergamy, libido, sexual control, rejection level, demography, physique etc.

This is a reevaluation I will love to do with all of the reputable goons here privately before drawing all conclusions to the public.

Thanks.

Cc. Ubunja.

Thanks for pointing this out. Seriously waiting for Ubunja.

What's more masculine than raising your own family as a man?

On this paying for sex.
There's something i want to chip in.
We have MEAT, money, energy, Attention, Time.
The truth is we pay for sex one way or the other.
If you think you shouldn't pay money for sex - which saves you time and attention.
Then you should also put a cap on how much of you attention, energy and time you pay for sex.
As we keep discussing, let's not only limit payment to money.

tensazangetsu20:


What of an ugly man who is short, black and earns like 20k naira a month. How can he get sex without paying for it in a brothel?

You should really stop this mentality.

Women are attracted by money, but it cannot and doesn't satisfy them.

Women are attracted by your handsome look but it only boost their ego.

Women like good sex but that is just for the moment.

What can keep a woman is how you treat her and how much you understand her, women are void of reasoning, they move with their heart. You can't be factual with 99% of women, in my live, I have meet only one woman that I don't have problem being factual with, but to woo the rest, you have to deceive them.

Women hate reality, you need to constantly make them feel proud in their ego, and you have to do this without letting them know, even if they know you are deceiving them, they don't mind most of the time, they only mind if your deceit put them into trouble. They knew all along that you are deceiving them but they don't mind provided it makes them feel good, that is how you can keep a woman, not necessarily with money.

I personally don't waste my time trying to please women, but they are easily deceived by my soft look, so even if I don't open my mouth to woo them, they will form story in my favor just to make themselves feel good with being by me. But I don't woo because most women don't have any support to give me except sex and useless talks, and I am still hustling so I avoid them as much as I can, for my own good, and I can be hard on them sometimes too.

Work on your relationship with people if you truly want to be happy, not pursuing money, you will end up with a woman that will not hesitate to take all you have worked for and run away. NEVER ATTRACT WOMEN WITH MATERIAL STUFFS, it leads to nothing but more frustration.

Also, life may be determined, but destiny is just a forecast of what you are likely to become base on your composition, but as you grow up and drop some attitude to take on others, your destiny will surely change.

It is just like building a simple software, take Facebook for example, it was design to simply share image with friends, at the time when Facebook started, if you ask someone of what Facebook is used for, they will tell you it's basic feature then, which we can also regard as the destiny of a new born baby, destiny is determined by your composition.

But as Facebook ages, some features are dropped while some are added and today, Facebook can be used to accomplish a lot of unimaginable stuffs. The same applies to humans, if you can change your character and way of thinking, you will make different decisions. Now, decision determines destiny, it is what you do that you get the result. So even though destiny is predetermined, it can equally be changed.

AdeOri99:


You should really stop this mentality.

Women are attracted by money, but it cannot and doesn't satisfy them.

Women are attracted by your handsome look but it only boost their ego.

Women like good sex but that is just for the moment.

What can keep a woman is how you treat her and how much you understand her, women are void of reasoning, they move with their heart. You can't be factual with 99% of women, in my live, I have meet only one woman that I don't have problem being factual with, but to woo the rest, you have to deceive them.

Women hate reality, you need to constantly make them feel proud in their ego, and you have to do this without letting them know, even if they know you are deceiving them, they don't mind most of the time, they only mind if your deceit put them into trouble. They knew all along that you are deceiving them but they don't mind provided it makes them feel good, that is how you can keep a woman, not necessarily with money.

I personally don't waste my time trying to please women, but they are easily deceived by my soft look, so even if I don't open my mouth to woo them, they will form story in my favor just to make themselves feel good with being by me. But I don't woo because most women don't have any support to give me except sex and useless talks, and I am still hustling so I avoid them as much as I can, for my own good, and I can be hard on them sometimes too.

Work on your relationship with people if you truly want to be happy, not pursuing money, you will end up with a woman that will not hesitate to take all you have worked for and run away. NEVER ATTRACT WOMEN WITH MATERIAL STUFFS, it leads to nothing but more frustration.

Also, life may be determined, but destiny is just a forecast of what you are likely to become base on your composition, but as you grow up and drop some attitude to take on others, your destiny will surely change.

It is just like building a simple software, take Facebook for example, it was design to simply share image with friends, at the time when Facebook started, if you ask someone of what Facebook is used for, they will tell you it's basic feature then, which we can also regard as the destiny of a new born baby, destiny is determined by your composition.

But as Facebook ages, some features are dropped while some are added and today, Facebook can be used to accomplish a lot of unimaginable stuffs. The same applies to humans, if you can change your character and way of thinking, you will make different decisions. Now, decision determines destiny, it is what you do that you get the result. So even though destiny is predetermined, it can equally be changed.

Honestly I don't really care about women or what they want in terms of relationships but I really don't see why guys who pay for sex are looked down on. Not every guy is handsome or rich or has any other redeeming qualities that can be used to attract women, so they don't deserve sex right?

The same red pill says women choose so what of guys who aren't chosen. The same red pill says genuine desire can never ever be negotiated. Of course it can't it's why money can't buy love but if women chose and genuine desire can't be negotiated why do people learn game and stupid shit like that when it's absolutely not in their power.

He who pays money for sex lacks self-control. And he who lacks self-control will always be easily manipulated by women.

tensazangetsu20:


Honestly I don't really care about women or what they want in terms of relationships but I really don't see why guys who pay for sex are looked down on. Not every guy is handsome or rich or has any other redeeming qualities that can be used to attract women, so they don't deserve sex right?

The same red pill says women choose so what of guys who aren't chosen. The same red pill says genuine desire can never ever be negotiated. Of course it can't it's why money can't buy love but if women chose and genuine desire can't be negotiated why do people learn game and stupid shit like that when it's absolutely not in their power.

Red pill says doesn't mean it is the truth.

There are thousand truth to one element in nature, life is so complicated that your reasoning will have to be very complicated to understand it, stop taking things in as they linearly appear, life is very multi dimensional and because red pill says it doesn't mean it is the truth.

Don't mind people judgement, it is their own opinion, and most time it is misguided, live your life as you seem fit and be happy with it, if you feel unsatisfied and need knowledge, stop antagonising those who have a different opinion but try considering their point too, maybe you may be wrong. Fighting others opinion is not always right, agreeing to them is not always right either.

People look down on those who pay for sex because they believe they don't know how to woo women, and the truth is if you don't know how to deal will basic things in life such as wooing women, people will think something is wrong with you. Even though I don't judge or look down anyone paying for sex, I am certain that I will never do that, I will never trade my heart, never, I don't have much regard for sex either, although I am a virgin, I believe I will only have sex with you if it will make you happy, not for the pleasure. I also won't work with a woman except I have control over her heart, women are dangerous, to really enjoy them you have to put them under your control.

If you can't do that as a man, society, mostly women will look down on you.

AdeOri99:


Red pill says doesn't mean it is the truth.

There are thousand truth to one element in nature, life is so complicated that your reasoning will have to be very complicated to understand it, stop taking things in as they linearly appear, life is very multi dimensional and because red pill says it doesn't mean it is the truth.

Don't mind people judgement, it is their own opinion, and most time it is misguided, live your life as you seem fit and be happy with it, if you feel unsatisfied and need knowledge, stop antagonising those who have a different opinion but try considering their point too, maybe you may be wrong. Fighting others opinion is not always right, agreeing to them is not always right either.

People look down on those who pay for sex because they believe they don't know how to woo women, and the truth is if you don't know how to deal will basic things in life such as wooing women, people will think something is wrong with you. Even though I don't judge or look down anyone paying for sex, I am certain that I will never do that, I will never trade my heart, never, I don't have much regard for sex either, although I am a virgin, I believe I will only have sex with you if it will make you happy, not for the pleasure. I also won't work with a woman except I have control over her heart, women are dangerous, to really enjoy them you have to put them under your control.

If you can't do that as a man, society, mostly women will look down on you.

Wooing isn't simple. I think a lot of average looking to handsome guys don't know what a lot of ugly men go through when it comes to wooing a lady. It's not as simple as you think. It's like someone like maduka okoye or Chris Brown telling you wooing is easy. Those guys don't need to woo any chick to get laid.

A guy wooing a lady who hasn't chosen him or doesn't want him will only lead to oneitis and being a simp eventually. Calling the lady everytime, taking her out. Using your paltry chicken salary to buy her gifts but the very sight of you just repulses her and wants to make her vomit.

These things are predetermined and you can't control who's attracted to you. We can only do our best by going to the gym, wearing nice clothes and getting a good career with a very high earning potential but even that doesn't guarantee anything. People should expect disappointment and they will absolutely never be disappointed.

PAYING FOR SEX DOESN'T MAKE YOU LESS OF A MAN

Paying for Sex doesn't mean you can't woo women. Cold approaching is useless. Being chosen is best. However, here is my answer to this.

tensazangetsu20:


But Ubunja said women choose. So women choose black short and ugly guys. Okay good so what of guys who aren't chosen. What should they do about sex?

Genuine desire can't be negotiated. Why learn game then since it's already predetermined who's attracted to what and who.

She is female. We don't quote them

Emmynator:
On this paying for sex.
There's something i want to chip in.
We have MEAT, money, energy, Attention, Time.
The truth is we pay for sex one way or the other.
If you think you shouldn't pay money for sex - which saves you time and attention.
Then you should also put a cap on how much of you attention, energy and time you pay for sex.
As we keep discussing, let's not only limit payment to money.

This issue has been overflogged on this thread.
Let's all agree to disagree

Jagani:
PAYING FOR SEX DOESN'T MAKE YOU LESS OF A MAN

Paying for Sex doesn't mean you can't woo women. Cold approaching is useless. Being chosen is best. However, here is my answer to this.

This issue has been discussed here before biko

Anyone who wants to learn can go back to page 1000 or so and read from there.

FOR FUQ SAKES!!!

THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN OVERFLOGGED, OUTFUQED,OVERANALYSED AND OVERVIEWED.

THIS ISSUE DERAILED THE THREAD FOR CLOSE TO 3 DAYS WITH INSULTS AND INNUENDOS.


PLEASE, GO BACK AND CHECK THE OLDER PAGES,SO WE WONT DERAIL THIS PAGE BIKO


NA BEG I DEY BEG UNA....

luminouz:

This issue has been discussed here before biko

Anyone who wants to learn can go back to page 1000 or so and read from there.

Doesn't matter if the issue has been discussed her before.

More redpill wisdom means old topics will be revisited and overflogged. If you're not interested, please move aside.

Let others learn.

Until last month. I thought Alpha in the redpill meant success. Today, I understand it means getting pusssy.

Do what you want with your data.

luminouz:
FOR FUQ SAKES!!!

THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN OVERFLOGGED, OUTFUQED,OVERANALYSED AND OVERVIEWED.

THIS ISSUE DERAILED THE THREAD FOR CLOSE TO 3 DAYS WITH INSULTS AND INNUENDOS.


PLEASE, GO BACK AND CHECK THE OLDER PAGES,SO WE WONT DERAIL THIS PAGE BIKO


NA BEG I DEY BEG UNA....

Post links to that part abeg.

Jagani:


Doesn't matter if the issue has been discussed her before.

More redpill wisdom means old topics will be revisited and overflogged. If you're not interested, please move aside.

Let others learn.

Until last month. I thought Alpha in the redpill meant success. Today, I understand it means getting pusssy.

Do what you want with your data.

You and who dey move aside?
If you had followed the thread like others did, you won't be arguing and forming king Kong, because you would have LEARNED about the paying money for sex issue. So why not go back and read up yourself or is that too much for your highness? Why clutter the thread with oldies when we could discuss new ones na?

tensazangetsu20:


Post links to that part abeg.

I will try and start checking. It should be page 1000 or so...

tensazangetsu20:


Wooing isn't simple. I think a lot of average looking to handsome guys don't know what a lot of ugly men go through when it comes to wooing a lady. It's not as simple as you think. It's like someone like maduka okoye or Chris Brown telling you wooing is easy. Those guys don't need to woo any chick to get laid.

A guy wooing a lady who hasn't chosen him or doesn't want him will only lead to oneitis and being a simp eventually. Calling the lady everytime, taking her out. Using your paltry chicken salary to buy her gifts but the very sight of you just repulses her and wants to make her vomit.

These things are predetermined and you can't control who's attracted to you. We can only do our best by going to the gym, wearing nice clothes and getting a good career with a very high earning potential but even that doesn't guarantee anything. People should expect disappointment and they will absolutely never be disappointed.

All roads lead to sex after all

I think maybe for the so-called ugly guys (I don’t believe anyone is ugly), you follow the theory of sticking to ladies that choose you. This shouldn’t affect your self esteem though.

Then of course if you get a good deal for sex you could pay and keep her as your friends with benefits?

What do you think?

tensazangetsu20:


Wooing isn't simple. I think a lot of average looking to handsome guys don't know what a lot of ugly men go through when it comes to wooing a lady. It's not as simple as you think. It's like someone like maduka okoye or Chris Brown telling you wooing is easy. Those guys don't need to woo any chick to get laid.

A guy wooing a lady who hasn't chosen him or doesn't want him will only lead to oneitis and being a simp eventually. Calling the lady everytime, taking her out. Using your paltry chicken salary to buy her gifts but the very sight of you just repulses her and wants to make her vomit.

These things are predetermined and you can't control who's attracted to you. We can only do our best by going to the gym, wearing nice clothes and getting a good career with a very high earning potential but even that doesn't guarantee anything. People should expect disappointment and they will absolutely never be disappointed.

Well, "look" like I said before isn't that important, it is like a click bait, you will buy something if it look appealing, but if you discover how useless it is, you will drop it quickly. Women will dump you if they discovered that all you have is your look, that is why it is not good to place emphasis on glitters, but focus on providing values, if you have no use for something, you will rarely spent money on it, except if you are the egoistic type that uses it for show off, but once it is no longer appealing, you lost interest. True virtue never lose their savour.

In regards to women choosing men, that is not an hindrance, women don't know what they want by default, if you truly like her, study her and see if you can make her happy, else forget about her. Don't be selfish, you should consider their emotional needs, not just your own pleasure, I believe many women are frustrated at how unreasonable most men are, therefore some are on a vengeful mission, while some became aggressive in frustration. If you are short and ugly, you shouldn't be selfish and foolish too.

Society is so fvcked up, and if I think about it, I think I still find women more reasonable than men, they have their weaknesses, but it is the responsibility of men to treat those weakness, not worshipping pussy. Stop worshipping pussy and beauty, treat women like they are valuable, and you will meet sensible women that will appreciate your value, not your look.

Wooing is not hard.

Stop simping for women, you can't just throw what I am not interested at on me and expect me to just want it because you want me to, if I don't like it, it is because it doesn't fit my preference, look for someone else that will buy your product.

You shouldn't expect any woman to like you just because you like them, but you can woo them by giving them what they cherish if you truly like them, if you don't have what they value, look elsewhere, it is not by look and money, it is by truly understanding your partner. If you think you can make her like you by foolishly spending on her, you are deceiving yourself, men should be men and use their brain, not blindly following the crowd.

Infact, most men are full of self-deceit than women are, but self-deceit should be a woman thing, not a man thing. We have many women in men cloke.

I magnet women because I have lot of understanding and knows how to humble those who deserves to be humble, and those who deserves pamper, I know how to do so too. Even though I have a good look, I look strong and fragile at the same time, and tall too, so I am the spec of a lot of ladies when it comes to look, but that is just a thing of attraction, infact they will rather use me for showoff it I emphasise my look. I command respect because I have lots of understanding, that is more powerful than my look.

Invest in building your intellect, not look, and money is secondary, not primary. It's the society that turn women to what we have today, I believe they are not these useless. Women naturally don't know how to make decisions, they are designed to depend on men, we should stop turning them to something we will later regret. Have dominion over them, don't lose your brain because of them, you can do this without taking their freedom too. Like a sailor, you should know when to turn the hull.

Nasri100:


All roads lead to sex after all

I think maybe for the so-called ugly guys (I don’t believe anyone is ugly), you follow the theory of sticking to ladies that choose you. This shouldn’t affect your self esteem though.

Then of course if you get a good deal for sex you could pay and keep her as your friends with benefits?

What do you think?

What's with you and sex payment bro?
Trying to stir up some shiit here or what na?
This no be ashewo beer parlour thread na

luminouz:

What's with you and sex payment bro?
Trying to stir up some shiit here or what na?
This no be ashewo beer parlour thread na

Nothing like that bro. Was just trying to understand his point of view.

Wont here from me about that discuss since it’s on the previous page. Will surely check.

Nasri100:


All roads lead to sex after all

I think maybe for the so-called ugly guys (I don’t believe anyone is ugly), you follow the theory of sticking to ladies that choose you. This shouldn’t affect your self esteem though.

Then of course if you get a good deal for sex you could pay and keep her as your friends with benefits?

What do you think?

Choose ke. They no dey choose ugly men o except they are filthy rich.

I don't know how arya star - beggie beggie was not critisized for a promoting domestic violence against men https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Vp9gpO_OM

tensazangetsu20:


Choose ke. They no dey choose ugly men o except they are filthy rich.

Women choses men for different reasons, it's not only about being tall, handsome and filthy rich, being hard working, funny and emphatetic is also part of it. I've heard a lady once said she used to avoid handsome men cos she wouldn't want any drama in her marital home.

Not tryna be proud of myself but I have a lot of short and unattractive friends who have pool of women around them than I do cos they're good with conversation I mean ladies who are 5 to 7s, compared to me an introvert with social anxiety can count the numbers of ladies I've had in the last five years.
So it depends, short and unattractive men also meet attractive ladies but it'll require additional efforts from them,

I've said it before, money for sex have been discussed here,go back and read about it.

We need new topics to broaden our minds,arguments and conversations.

CaveAdullam:


Since the beginning of the year, my brain cells has been calling me to do a re-evaluation of this topic.

'Not paying for sex' as I'm typing now still wins a good percentage, but there are some gaps that must be analyzed. Example: waiting vs saving time.

Probably, this can be a round table talk on the best approach method, when, where and how to switch positions. Some of the things that can help us with a good analysis: confidence level, genetics, location, desire, time, patience,money, number of women, categories of women/men, hypergamy, libido, sexual control, rejection level, demography, physique etc.

This is a reevaluation I will love to do with all of the reputable goons here privately before drawing all conclusions to the public.

Thanks.

Cc. Ubunja.

this is one conversation I don't have the energy for again. All I'm gonna say is, while we go back and forth about buying sex,, girls are out here looking for guys who can help them sell sex. You can all choose which side of the game you wanna play: buy prostitutes or become their business associates and make money while hitting it free...

ADDICTED TO SEX
HI I'm looking for someone who can control me and do everything for me someone who's a pïmp Whatsapp 072........

seanwilliam:

You’re right jare. People hate what will bruise their egos even if it’s the right thing …
And some men love suffering no be small..
As for me , next time, I won’t take the risk again cos I’ll keep finding myself around this circle of friends..

1. I might not be lucky to save my business again ( and moreso , he now shares the trade between two people self, how did I know? before if I’m not available, he will wait till I’m back or send it to me and I’ll work on it when I’m available. these days , if I no Dey available then it’s not for me that day ., baba see wetin I cause myself on top say I put mouth for issue).


2.If a girl/ woman knows that her boyfriend/husband’s friend doesn’t like her and alway sensitize him against her, she can go any length to punish such fellow..


3. When one tries to open people’s eyes to reality , 80% of time , you’re making enemies for yourself..

Over 70% of my trade buddies are simps , I mean certified simps, Abi what will you say of people telling you that giving your girlfriend monthly allowance and sending money to her parents shows how responsible you are. I stopped uploading anything relating to redpill to my page cos it’s always attack here anr

Bro, please can you help me on how to start this card trading business?
Like how do I start, how much I need to start and so on please.

ubunja:
this is one conversation I don't have the energy for again. All I'm gonna say is, while we go back and forth about buying sex,, girls are out here looking for guys who can help them sell sex. You can all choose which side of the game you wanna play: buy prostitutes or become their business associates and make money while hitting it free...

ADDICTED TO SEX
HI I'm looking for someone who can control me and do everything for me someone who's a pïmp Whatsapp 072........

Do you have a thread on how to play this pimping game? I have a girl I want to work on like right now. I actually wanted to be taking her to parties they organise in my school from time to time where money are sprayed so since she's pretty and young they will surely spray her then we share the money but I will love to love-vendor her out now in addition. Do you have a thread on that already?