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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:27am On Mar 01, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Fifa suspending Russia is just so stupid of them ,I wonder if Russia footballers are at fault or supporting what’s happening

Same fifa that couldn’t suspend USA ,ISREAL

This is unfair to the players and coaching staff

Fifa uefa are so stupid and useless

After they will open their dirty mouths and say they don’t mix sport with politics
it’s disgraceful
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:35am On Mar 01, 2022
komekn:


Please tell us when and where and in what competition , Glasgow Ranger's beat Arsenal ❓❓
but Celtic beat Barcelona, does it mean laliga is not good enough?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 4:37am On Mar 01, 2022
Firmino, Jota and Lukaku are not striker? 10 shots on target and dozens of chances created yet no goal, you are simply supporting my claim. Name one 18 yard tap in strikers. Firmino, Osi, Tammy, Auba, Lukaku, Kane, Firmino, Daka, Ihenacho, King, Dennis, Morata, Vlahovic, Benzema, Laca, Dzeko, Martinez?
Danielnino00:

4 goals were ruled offside by VAR, two of which were very questionable.. Both teams had 10 shots on target and created dozens of chances!

Liverpool and city hardly play with a recognized number 9 this season and yet, they have scored more goals than many teams in Europe this season. Liverpool in particular have scored 100 with Salah, Mane, Jota and Firmino, none of which are strikers...

Believe it or not, a time will come when 18 yard box tap in strikers will be completely irrelevant to the modern game...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:39am On Mar 01, 2022
fabyom:
Firmino, Jota and Lukaku are not striker? 10 shots on target and dozens of chances created yet no goal, you are simply supporting my claim. Name one 18 yard tap in strikers. Firmino, Osi, Tammy, Auba, Lukaku, Kane, Firmino, Daka, Ihenacho, King, Dennis, Morata, Vlahovic, Benzema, Laca, Dzeko, Martinez?

Firmino isn't a striker! He is a false 9.. He is classed as a forward.. Jota isn't a striker either. He is primarily a winger that can play anywhere across the front 3.
Lukaku that's a striker has been struggling badly in this Chelsea team..

Why are you repeating the fallacious statement of no goal scored? You clearly didn't watch the match...

All those players you mentioned proved my point,innit?
We are doing past the era of 18 yard box tap in strikers..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 6:53am On Mar 01, 2022
Joebie:
to the bolded,
Na my papa house i dey
grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CASTAGNE: 7:39am On Mar 01, 2022
komekn:


Sorry the question should be plural not singular.

Football is never certain,but the teams with clear potential for me are Fulham and Bournemouth.

on a good day for Fulham or Bournemouth they might lose 2 or 3-1 to Dortmund on their normal days they'd get walloped.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CASTAGNE: 7:42am On Mar 01, 2022
komekn:


Celtic and Rangers will struggle in the championship probably fall from mid table and below.
not true, they'll hang around the playoff places all season and one of them might go on to win the championship.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:14am On Mar 01, 2022
elyte89:
Meanwhile y did Cameroon sack deir Portuguese coach for rigobert song ? When qualifier is just a month away

You can just imagine

Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 8:51am On Mar 01, 2022
Firmino is a striker who doesn’t score regularly. False 9 is playing a midfielder or winger in attack.
Why did Tuchel bring on Lukaku then?
Tuchel had no other striker that was the reason he played Havertz as a 9 and he even said Havertz moves like a 9. We know him and Lukaku are not on good terms.
Jota and Firmino play as a 9 for Liverpool.
If a 9 is not needed why not play Salah or Mane in attack.
You are the one inventing your own formation

Do you know the amount Mancity tabled to buy Kane?
United is after Oshimen and Chelsea after Haaland.
No top team is playing without a striker.
As long as there is a need to put the ball in the net, strikers will never be out of job whether they are tapped in merchant or not.
Name one striker that is not hotly demanded.
Barcelona buying Auba should tell you that no quality striker will ever be out of job!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 8:52am On Mar 01, 2022
Danielnino00:


Firmino isn't a striker! He is a false 9.. He is classed as a forward.. Jota isn't a striker either. He is primarily a winger that can play anywhere across the front 3.
Lukaku that's a striker has been struggling badly in this Chelsea team..

Why are you repeating the fallacious statement of no goal scored? You clearly didn't watch the match...

All those players you mentioned proved my point,innit?
We are doing past the era of 18 yard box tap in strikers..
Firmino is a striker who doesn’t score regularly. False 9 is playing a midfielder or winger in attack.
Why did Tuchel bring on Lukaku then?
Tuchel had no other striker that was the reason he played Havertz as a 9 and he even said Havertz moves like a 9. We know him and Lukaku are not on good terms.
Jota and Firmino play as a 9 for Liverpool.
If a 9 is not needed why not play Salah or Mane in attack.
You are the one inventing your own formation

Do you know the amount Mancity tabled to buy Kane?
United is after Oshimen and Chelsea after Haaland.
No top team is playing without a striker.
As long as there is a need to put the ball in the net, strikers will never be out of job whether they are tapped in merchant or not.
Name one striker that is not hotly demanded.
Barcelona buying Auba should tell you that no quality striker will ever be out of job!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:54am On Mar 01, 2022
Danielnino00:


Firmino isn't a striker! He is a false 9.. He is classed as a forward.. Jota isn't a striker either. He is primarily a winger that can play anywhere across the front 3.
Lukaku that's a striker has been struggling badly in this Chelsea team..

Why are you repeating the fallacious statement of no goal scored? You clearly didn't watch the match...

All those players you mentioned proved my point,innit?
We are doing past the era of 18 yard box tap in strikers..

Well said
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:58am On Mar 01, 2022
fabyom:
Firmino is a striker who doesn’t score regularly. False 9 is playing a midfielder or winger in attack.
Why did Tuchel bring on Lukaku then?
Tuchel had no other striker that was the reason he played Havertz as a 9 and he even said Havertz moves like a 9. We know him and Lukaku are not on good terms.
Jota and Firmino play as a 9 for Liverpool.
If a 9 is not needed why not play Salah or Mane in attack.
You are the one inventing your own formation

Do you know the amount Mancity tabled to buy Kane?
United is after Oshimen and Chelsea after Haaland.
No top team is playing without a striker.
As long as there is a need to put the ball in the net, strikers will never be out of job whether they are tapped in merchant or not.
Name one striker that is not hotly demanded.
Barcelona buying Auba should tell you that no quality striker will ever be out of job!

Oga sir firmino is not and never a striker ,jota is never a striker also

Lukaku is a striker and hasn’t been doing well recently ,he didn’t even start that game and I think harvetz was the false 9 there

Tuchel and lukaku are in very good terms ,even after that statement he made tuchel kept on playing him till recently

Chelsea is not after Haaland ,that was only last season

No top team playing without a striker ,maybe you will tell me if man city and Liverpool are small teams grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 9:03am On Mar 01, 2022
JohnBullMySon:
I don't asslick America dude.

Where were you when Taliban Afghanistan was training Al-Quieda terrorists in camps to launch attacks in the US?

Where were you when Iraq invaded Kuwait, a major US ally because of inability to repay $15billion dollar debt and jealousy over surge in oil production.

Russia has been sullen at not being able to win Ukraine over from the west, and now they think invading an innocent country is the best decision?

No need schooling me about international politics. I know who I support. Russia must pay smiley
He even mentioned Libya. Libyans killed themselves and destroyed their country. They were simply not smart. Someone gave u a gun and said kill ur bro and u fired the gun. Na mumu be that.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:09am On Mar 01, 2022
comodo:

He even mentioned Libya. Libyans killed themselves and destroyed their country. They were simply not smart. Someone gave u a gun and said kill ur bro and u fired the gun. Na mumu be that.

USA can do no wrong in most of the average Nigerian eyes so I no get power to argue ,make una continue una asslick

Now where was this energy when Isreal was attacking Palestine ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:10am On Mar 01, 2022
fabyom:
Firmino is a striker who doesn’t score regularly. False 9 is playing a midfielder or winger in attack.
Why did Tuchel bring on Lukaku then?
Tuchel had no other striker that was the reason he played Havertz as a 9 and he even said Havertz moves like a 9. We know him and Lukaku are not on good terms.
Jota and Firmino play as a 9 for Liverpool.
If a 9 is not needed why not play Salah or Mane in attack.
You are the one inventing your own formation

Do you know the amount Mancity tabled to buy Kane?
United is after Oshimen and Chelsea after Haaland.
No top team is playing without a striker.
As long as there is a need to put the ball in the net, strikers will never be out of job whether they are tapped in merchant or not.
Name one striker that is not hotly demanded.
Barcelona buying Auba should tell you that no quality striker will ever be out of job!

You have no idea what you are saying... Firmino isn't and has never been a striker.. He started his career as a defensive midfielder, then played majorly as an attacking midfielder or second striker.. In his first few games for Liverpool, Rodgers was using him as a winger, under Klopp he was converted to a false 9 because that role was needed to implement the gengepressing style of Klopp..
Jota is also not a striker! Seriously you have no idea . On Sunday, Make started as a false 9 against Chelsea.. That was the second time this season he would start there in the absence of Jota and Firmino.. Salah has also played as a 9 before ..

Why didn't Tuchel start Lukaku if he was looking for a striker? What did Lukaku do that Havertz didn't do?

Its funny that u mention players like Osimhen and Aubameyang who are versatile and have good work rate..

You obviously don't get my point... Top teams are moving away from the era of playing with strikers whose only contribution is to score goals . Liverpool and Man City are two of the best teams in the world at the moment, and they play without an out and out striker...
If you play a formation where you will depend mostly on your striker for the goal, you aren't ready to win...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:15am On Mar 01, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Oga sir firmino is not and never a striker ,jota is never a striker also

Lukaku is a striker and hasn’t been doing well recently ,he didn’t even start that game and I think harvetz was the false 9 there

Tuchel and lukaku are in very good terms ,even after that statement he made tuchel kept on playing him tell recently

Chelsea is not after Haaland ,that was only last season

No top team playing without a striker ,maybe you will tell me if man city and Liverpool are small teams grin

I wonder what he is talking about self..
In my opinion, having a front 3 with players who are flexible,with good work rate and goal threat is much better than player with just an out and out striker because it gives your team enough goal option and make it difficult for your opponent to stiff your attack.. That's why teams like Liverpool and Man City hardly fail to score in any game ..
When a team become too dependent on an out an out striker for goals, it would affect them eventually..
Strikers are still very much relevant in today's game, but it's also true that teams can do without them..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:24am On Mar 01, 2022
comodo:

He even mentioned Libya. Libyans killed themselves and destroyed their country. They were simply not smart. Someone gave u a gun and said kill ur bro and u fired the gun. Na mumu be that.

Consider all the arms heavy and light including armoured vehicles and MBT's.

Where did the vast majority of these weapons come from ❓

Where did our so called bandits and Islamic jihadists, Boko, ISWAP, etc get the overwhelming majority of their weapons from ❓❓

Who is sponsoring Libyan strong man Haftar ❓❓❓
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 10:48am On Mar 01, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Well said
it isn't well said you should ask him the meaning of a false 9 before agreeing with him that firmino isn't a sticker but a false 9 when in actually term a false 9 is still a striker irrespective of the player starting in that positionwink firmino as been labelled as a striker Even by sky sport so are you saying they don't know what they are saying undecided fabyom is actually right with his words so go read more and understand his submission wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 10:50am On Mar 01, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Oga sir firmino is not and never a striker ,jota is never a striker also

Lukaku is a striker and hasn’t been doing well recently ,he didn’t even start that game and I think harvetz was the false 9 there

Tuchel and lukaku are in very good terms ,even after that statement he made tuchel kept on playing him till recently

Chelsea is not after Haaland ,that was only last season

No top team playing without a striker ,maybe you will tell me if man city and Liverpool are small teams grin
fabyom submission is actually simple, you can be tagged as a striker even without you being an out and out striker or your regular number 9 wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:10am On Mar 01, 2022
komekn:


Tell me one free democratically governed country that the USA invaded by itself please.

And who is the USA to enforce democracy in every country

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:10am On Mar 01, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
fabyom submission is actually simple, you can be tagged as a striker even without you being an out and out striker or your regular number 9 wink

Maybe if Moses Simon of Chukwueze joined a new club and both of them play as a false 9 they will automatically be a real number 9
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:11am On Mar 01, 2022
Odunayaw:
And who is the USA to enforce democracy in every country


Lol

Good response
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 11:12am On Mar 01, 2022
@ thegoodjoe aka Mr tactical soakup grin grin
Explain this below

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 11:44am On Mar 01, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
Osimhen wins penalty but wasn't a foul.

Insigne. 2-1.
Pulled out completely.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:58am On Mar 01, 2022
elyte89:
@ thegoodjoe aka Mr tactical soakup grin grin
Explain this below


I am not the one to explain. They should explain if there is enough conclusive evidence to rule handball for Rodri. Even looking at that picture and this, I can understand why the handball was not given.

The point is simple.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero47: 12:19pm On Mar 01, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Oga sir firmino is not and never a striker ,jota is never a striker also

Lukaku is a striker and hasn’t been doing well recently ,he didn’t even start that game and I think harvetz was the false 9 there

Tuchel and lukaku are in very good terms ,even after that statement he made tuchel kept on playing him till recently

Chelsea is not after Haaland ,that was only last season

No top team playing without a striker ,maybe you will tell me if man city and Liverpool are small teams grin

If Firmino is not a striker what is he? Jota has majorly played in the Striking position for Liverpool also
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 12:23pm On Mar 01, 2022
One thing people need to understand is that there are different kinds of Strikers/Centre Forwards. It all depends on the quality of the player and the instructions of the coach.

The False 9 phenomenon is more of a ROLE than it is about wingers being deployed as strikers or attacking midfielders being asked to play the striking position.

The role of the false 9 is to drag defenders out by dropping deep and spreading passes mostly to the wings. This gives room for the wingers and attacking midfielders to thrive and also helps to create space for the Centre Forward when play is pushed upwards.

Judging by this definition, we can as well say that Harry Kane has been playing the role of a false 9 recently ( at least for the past two seasons).

It is more of a role than anything else.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:27pm On Mar 01, 2022
Subzero47:


If Firmino is not a striker what is he? Jota has majorly played in the Striking position for Liverpool also

When I say firmino is not a striker you should know what I meant
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:51pm On Mar 01, 2022
elyte89:
@ thegoodjoe aka Mr tactical soakup grin grin
Explain this below

This call stuff, does Riley do it to other club managers or its cos its Lampard?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:54pm On Mar 01, 2022
COOL10:
One thing people need to understand is that there are different kinds of Strikers/Centre Forwards. It all depends on the quality of the player and the instructions of the coach.

The False 9 phenomenon is more of a ROLE than it is about wingers being deployed as strikers or attacking midfielders being asked to play the striking position.

The role of the false 9 is to drag defenders out by dropping deep and spreading passes mostly to the wings. This gives room for the wingers and attacking midfielders to thrive and also helps to create space for the Centre Forward when play is pushed upwards.

Judging by this definition, we can as well say that Harry Kane has been playing the role of a false 9 recently ( at least for the past two seasons).

It is more of a role than anything else.

More reason why VVD gets accolades on this regard.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:01pm On Mar 01, 2022
daveP:
This call stuff, does Riley do it to other club managers or its cos its Lampard?

Because it is Lampard. If Mourinho or Guardiola called the referees incompetent, the FA will line up to hand out ban.

Because Prince Charles part 2 is hurt, everyone needs to make him happy.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero47: 1:18pm On Mar 01, 2022
andrewbaba44:


When I say firmino is not a striker you should know what I meant

Firmino is a striker that likes to drop deep, strikers have different play styles

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