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Ruling On Honour Killings by Lukgaf(m): 12:33pm On Mar 04, 2022
According to Wikipedia, "An honor killing, honour killing, or shame killing is the murder of an individual, either an outsider or a member of a family, by someone seeking to protect what they see as the dignity and honor of themselves or their family."

So, what is the position of Islam on this?

Praise be to Allah.

Killing a Muslim unlawfully is a serious matter and a grave crime. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell to abide therein; and the Wrath and the Curse of Allaah are upon him, and a great punishment is prepared for him”

[al-Nisa’ 4:93]

al-Bukhaari (6355) narrated from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The believer will continue to be encompassed by the mercy of Allaah so long as he does not shed blood that it is forbidden to shed.”

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has explained to us the reasons for which it becomes permissible to shed this blood. He said: “It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim who bears witness that there is no god but Allaah and that I am the Messenger of Allaah except in three cases: a life for a life (murder), zina of one of who is previously-married (adultery), and the one who changes his religion and forsakes the jamaa’ah.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6370) and Muslim (3175). From this it is clear that zina on the part of one who is married is one of the reasons that make it permissible to kill a person, but the zaani (adulterer) cannot be killed unless two conditions are met:

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He should be previously-married. The scholars have explained what is meant by previously-married in this case. Zakariya al-Ansaari (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Asna’l-Mataalib (4/128): The previously-married person, whether male or female, is any adult of sound mind who has previously had intercourse within a valid marriage. End quote. Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Sharh al-Zaad (6/120): There are five conditions for (being described as) previously-married:

1-Intercourse

2-Within a valid marriage

3-Being an adult

4-Being of sound reason

5-Being free (i.e., not a slave).

End quote.

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The second condition is that it should be proven that the hadd punishment is deserved, by the testimony of four male witnesses who saw the private parts meet, or the person should freely admit to having committed zina, without being forced to do so.

If it is proven that he deserves the hadd punishment, it is not permissible for individuals to carry out this punishment themselves. Rather the matter must be referred to the ruler or his deputy to prove the crime and carry out the punishment, because if individuals carry out hadd punishments, that will lead to a great deal of corruption and evil.

Ibn Muflih al-Hanbali (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Furoo’ (6/53): It is haraam for anyone to carry out a hadd punishment except the ruler or his deputy. This is something on which the fuqaha’ of Islam are unanimously agreed, as was stated in al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah (5/280): The fuqaha’ are unanimously agreed that the one who should carry out hadd punishments is the ruler or his deputy, whether the punishment is transgressing one of the limits of Allaah, may He be exalted, such as zina, or a transgression against another person, such as slander. End quote.

Concealing one who has committed this evil deed so that he may repent and set his affairs straight before he dies is better than exposing him, let alone killing him. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) turned away from Maa’iz (may Allaah be pleased with him) after he admitted committing zina, and he ignored him until he had repeated his confession several times, then he carried out the hadd punishment on him.

Based on this, that which is called “honour killing” is a transgression and wrongdoing, because it is killing one who does not deserve to be killed, namely the virgin if she commits zina (fornication), but the shar’i punishment in her case is flogging and banishment for one year, not execution, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “(The punishment for zina) of a virgin with a virgin person is one hundred lashes and exile for one year.” Narrated by Muslim. The one who kills her has killed a believing soul whom Allaah has forbidden to be killed, and there is a stern warning concerning that, as Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And those who invoke not any other ilaah (god) along with Allaah, nor kill such person as Allaah has forbidden, except for just cause, nor commit illegal sexual intercourse ___ and whoever does this shall receive the punishment.

69. The torment will be doubled to him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein in disgrace”

[al-Furqaan 25:68-69]

Even if we assume that she deserves to be executed (if she was previously-married and committed zina), no one should do that but the ruler – as stated above. Moreover, in many cases killing is done on the basis of accusations and speculation, without proving whether the immoral action even took place.

And Allaah knows best.


https://islamqa.info/en/answers/101972/ruling-on-honour-killings

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by Lukgaf(m): 12:34pm On Mar 04, 2022
DeepSight, come and see this

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by DeepSight(m): 12:50pm On Mar 04, 2022
Lukgaf:
DeepSight, come and see this

Thank you very much for fulfilling your promise.

Thus if I understand correctly:

If a woman commits adultery, for instance - and -

1. She is a Muslim
2. It is proven before the ruler

It is acceptable for the ruler to put her to death.
Is this correct?

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by Lukgaf(m): 12:53pm On Mar 04, 2022
DeepSight:


Thank you very much for fulfilling your promise.

Thus if I understand correctly:

If a woman commits adultery, for instance - and -

1. She is a Muslim
2. It is proven before the ruler

It is acceptable for the ruler to put her to death.
Is this correct?

Yes according to Shariah but the conditions mentioned must all be satisfied

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by Nova1988(m): 1:33pm On Mar 04, 2022
DeepSight:


Thank you very much for fulfilling your promise.

Thus if I understand correctly:

If a woman commits adultery, for instance - and -

1. She is a Muslim
2. It is proven before the ruler

It is acceptable for the ruler to put her to death.
Is this correct?

The other conditions must be met too.
Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by DeepSight(m): 1:35pm On Mar 04, 2022
Nova1988:


The other conditions must be met too.

What other conditions?
I thought proof before the ruler would subsume everything.

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by Nova1988(m): 1:45pm On Mar 04, 2022
DeepSight:


What other conditions?
I thought proof before the ruler would subsume everything.

testimony of four male witnesses who saw the private parts meet, or the person should freely admit to having committed zina, without being forced to do so.

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by Alhajiemeritus: 7:46pm On Mar 04, 2022
Nova1988:


testimony of four male witnesses who saw the private parts meet, or the person should freely admit to having committed zina, without being forced to do so.
So, if there is penis captivitus i.e a situation whereby the male organ is stuck inside the female organ, they can bẹ killed. Because many people always witness this captivitus.
Correct?
Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by DonroxyII: 10:48am On Mar 07, 2022
Lukgaf:
According to Wikipedia, "An honor killing, honour killing, or shame killing is the murder of an individual, either an outsider or a member of a family, by someone seeking to protect what they see as the dignity and honor of themselves or their family."

So, what is the position of Islam on this?



https://islamqa.info/en/answers/101972/ruling-on-honour-killings
This is of Great Essence. May we all be Forgiven of Our Attrocities, Amen.

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by lifenija: 11:11am On Mar 11, 2022
soo if u kill an unbelievable, its okay shey

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by NeoWanZaeed(m): 11:11am On Mar 11, 2022
DeepSight:


Thank you very much for fulfilling your promise.

Thus if I understand correctly:

If a woman commits adultery, for instance - and -

1. She is a Muslim
2. It is proven before the ruler

It is acceptable for the ruler to put her to death.
Is this correct?


YES!

JUST AS IT IS IN THE LAW OF MUSA.. IT'S IN OURS TOO
Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by NigerianAngelo(m): 11:11am On Mar 11, 2022
He who lives by the sword will die by the sword.


Live like St. Anthony of Padua, St. Vincent Ferrer.


May these two saints and many more intercede for all of you, together with the Blessed Virgin Mary, St. Joseph and St. Michael for life.

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by lifenija: 11:11am On Mar 11, 2022
Nova1988:


testimony of four male witnesses who saw the private parts meet, or the person should freely admit to having committed zina, without being forced to do so.
so if they are 3 witness, f case no go hold shey

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by NeoWanZaeed(m): 11:11am On Mar 11, 2022
KILLING OF KUFAR CAN ONLY BE COMMANDED BY THE RULER (AMIR)

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by lifenija: 11:12am On Mar 11, 2022
Rochidero:
L
hack ur life mumu

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by NeoWanZaeed(m): 11:13am On Mar 11, 2022
AND A MUSLIM KILLING A MUSLIM IS A SINNER NOT A DISBELIEVER..
HENCE HE'S NOT TO BE CONDEMNED TO HELL FIRE FOREVER.

ALLAH MIGHT FORGIVE HIM OR PUNISH HIM.




ALLAH SAID HE WONT FORGIVE WHOEVER DIES WORSHIPING ANYTHING ASIDE HIM OR ALONGSIDE HIM
Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by Sltp: 11:13am On Mar 11, 2022
This world is a very wicked place. Tueeh!!! Look at grown up adults arguing when best to kill another human being for living HIS/HER own life in a manner that is best for him because of religious brainwashing. I'm ashamed to share the world with people like you all

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by Arkmanbuddy(m): 11:20am On Mar 11, 2022
So what you're saying in effect is that anyone who leaves the faith can be killed? When it's time, I'll let you know something about the law of Moses and why God let it stand for a period of time.

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by 2dominate: 11:21am On Mar 11, 2022
Lukgaf:


Yes according to Shariah but the conditions mentioned must all be satisfied
Please on what did you base your answer?
Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by Nobody: 11:22am On Mar 11, 2022
shocked
...killing is allowed in three cases: a life for a life (murder), zina of one of who is previously-married (adultery), and the one who changes his religion and forsakes the jamaa’ah.”
And this ruling supercedes the Nigerian Constitution? Isn't this a recipe for confusion & violence in a secular country as Nigeria.

Honestly all Muslims who believe this, should exist in a separate country of their own where they will freely practice their faith & beliefs.

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by 2dominate: 11:22am On Mar 11, 2022
Arkmanbuddy:
So what you're saying in effect is that anyone who leaves the faith can be killed? When it's time, I'll let you know something about the law of Moses and why God let it stand for a period of time.
Nope, Islam preaches freedom of religion
Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by Saxxon(m): 11:23am On Mar 11, 2022
How would anyone in their right mind think that the words of a serial murderer and a rapist are Gods word? Understanding the psychology behind Mohammads so-called prophethood is actually very simple:

The guy wanted to be powerful but he lacked the ability to perform miracles so he told his people that he's just a messenger, and when they casted doubt at him because of Jesus, he tried to rubbish Jesus's reputation by saying that the Jews are wrong, that Jesus was not divine but also an ordinary messenger like himself. This dude was virtually a slave to every evil whim a humanbeing can possess. He was a liar, a manipulator, a sex crazed maniac! He would go on to marry a very wealthy woman, covet her wealth and use it to build and army. Then use that army to attack polytheistic Mecca and force them to accept his family's deity "Allah" as the only God. He would quickly go into a trance and make up laws to suit his narrative whenever anyone challenges him. Even his last wife Aisha was once quoted to tell him that "this his Allah must love him so dearly that he always gives him visions that favour him". The man would invade a village for no reason, kill its people, and take their wives as sex slaves. It was one of the women he coveted as war booty that gave him the poison that killed him.

DOES THIS PERSON LOOK OR SOUND ANYTHING LIKE A PROPHET OF GOD??

There's more revelations where this came from. If you want to truly know Islam intoto, without all the fake scholarly teachings and articles they post on the web, make sure to visit Apostate Prophet on YouTube. Thank me later

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by DeepSight(m): 11:23am On Mar 11, 2022
NeoWanZaeed:



YES!

JUST AS IT IS IN THE LAW OF MUSA.. IT'S IN OURS TOO

Killing a woman on account that she has had sexx is nothing short of barbaric.
Be it commanded by the Law of Musa or the Sharia Law.

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by Saxxon(m): 11:24am On Mar 11, 2022
2dominate:

Nope, Islam preaches freedom of religion

What about the laws of apostacy? This one wants to deceive unsuspecting victims into believing that they're free to leave at any time when we all know that that's very far from the truth.
Taqyiya Kee you there!

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by NeoWanZaeed(m): 11:24am On Mar 11, 2022
DeepSight:


Killing a woman on account that she has had sexx is nothing short of barbaric.

Adultery not sexx


Married and fornicating!!



Don't worry.. Sharia law will rule the world soon .


All the crisis we're having will vanish

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by DeepSight(m): 11:24am On Mar 11, 2022
Lukgaf:


Yes according to Shariah but the conditions mentioned must all be satisfied

Are there provisions for the man involved to also be put to death in like manner?

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by NeoWanZaeed(m): 11:24am On Mar 11, 2022
Saxxon:


What about the laws of apostacy?

Death!

Rida/Apostasy punishment is death

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by DeepSight(m): 11:25am On Mar 11, 2022
NeoWanZaeed:


Adultery not sexx


Married and fornicating!!

Notwithstanding. It remains barbaric in the extreme.
And if you support it, you are a barbarian.

Don't worry.. Sharia law will rule the world soon.

What an accursed and Godforsaken world that will be.

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Re: Ruling On Honour Killings by aspabay(m): 11:26am On Mar 11, 2022
Serve a God that fights for you and not the one you have to fight for and defend.

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