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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by MT: 8:40am On Mar 09, 2022
ken6488:
that's the true

Around 7000

Main while only 200 is enough to destroy Europe

Some people re hilarious. Not all the nuclear war heads can be successfully delivered. You need a mean to deliver them. And who says Russia will deliver up to 50 warheads before it is taken away from the map, with nukes flying from different direction.

And note,no country has the delivery systems more than the US. Most of their subs, and war planes carry nuclear war heads more than any nation on earth.

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by blackgold2018(m): 8:41am On Mar 09, 2022
Nonexisting:
Is this cowardice or what? Send the fuccking planes to Ukrainians or shut the fucck up.
you can’t use Russian jet’s against Russia.
Russia will go mad and respond.

Poland won’t risk Russian rot. Believe me even if Poland is a NATO state. Russia must respond.
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by SEGLIZ: 8:42am On Mar 09, 2022
nograv:


Nuclear weapons are for deterrence only. You can never really use them.

If you do it is literally the end of the world. This was defined by the doctrine M.A.D. mutually assured destruction.

If Nuclear weapons are fired by either power it would be the end of the world as we know it. Firstly all major cities across Europe, America and Russia would be destroyed..

For the survivors the worst would not be over. Some would die from third degree burns caused by the Nuclear blasts. All electronics and machinery including cars/tractors would stop working due to EMPs electro magnetic pulses generated by the Nuclear bombs..

Then there would be fallout, radioactive dust swept into the air by the bombs. If you inhale this dust or breathe it in soon after the blast, you will first start vomiting then die a painful death within days.

Assuming you survive the fallout which will only become safe after the radioactive isotopes have decayed after a few days (scientists reckon at list two weeks). You will need to stay inside for all of that time. Then you and the many other survivors will need to find food.

Nuclear winter caused by all of the dust swept into the atmosphere will begin. Plunging the earth into a mini ice age. Crops will fail and existing supplies of food will begin to run out.. millions will starve.

That is the best case scenario from a full on Nuclear war. This is why the west is taking it easy with Russia.
I hope they understand this whole grammar of yours, if only they do those drumming for this war to persist won't do.

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by TrebleChamp(m): 8:43am On Mar 09, 2022
naptu2:


https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-us-says-polands-offer-of-mig-29-fighter-jets-to-be-passed-to-ukraine-not-tenable-12561341

Polish Air Force MIG-29. File pic: AP
Polish Prime Minister has openly denied his country was ever planning to send planes to Ukraine, why is US bent on roping Poland into this small Military exercise in Ukraine?
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by puremaker7(m): 8:44am On Mar 09, 2022
nograv:


Nuclear weapons are for deterrence only. You can never really use them.

If you do it is literally the end of the world. This was defined by the doctrine M.A.D. mutually assured destruction.

If Nuclear weapons are fired by either power it would be the end of the world as we know it. Firstly all major cities across Europe, America and Russia would be destroyed..

For the survivors the worst would not be over. Some would die from third degree burns caused by the Nuclear blasts. All electronics and machinery including cars/tractors would stop working due to EMPs electro magnetic pulses generated by the Nuclear bombs..

Then there would be fallout, radioactive dust swept into the air by the bombs. If you inhale this dust or breathe it in soon after the blast, you will first start vomiting then die a painful death within days.

Assuming you survive the fallout which will only become safe after the radioactive isotopes have decayed after a few days (scientists reckon at list two weeks). You will need to stay inside for all of that time. Then you and the many other survivors will need to find food.

Nuclear winter caused by all of the dust swept into the atmosphere will begin. Plunging the earth into a mini ice age. Crops will fail and existing supplies of food will begin to run out.. millions will starve.

That is the best case scenario from a full on Nuclear war. This is why the west is taking it easy with Russia.
yhe! na armageddon be that o..abeg make them settle o.

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by blackgold2018(m): 8:45am On Mar 09, 2022
Jackanda1:
Putin no dey fear, putin dey ruthless, him fit destroy the world...........blah, blah, blah.......

Just small NATO that Ukraine wanted to join oo, fear catch am, he don almost shit for pant rush go attack ukraine grin

Why him no allow them join NATO first before him attack? I for like check sumtin grin
shut up. Little fool.

Even US didn’t allow it. When Russia wanted to ally with Cuba in 1960’s

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Nobody: 8:45am On Mar 09, 2022
Westloop13:
In war there are no winners ,just survivors who lost alot of friends, family and hope.
I hope Zelensky understands this sooner before his thirst for Western dollars ruins his country

EDIT: For some of you quoting me, If Zelensky valued Ukraine's sovereignty, he should have understood that inviting the US to stage nuclear weapons pointed at Russia in a country situated right next to Russia will definitely force Russia to act in self-defence.

Sovereignty is like democracy, some lines are not meant to be crossed. Zelensky understood this, but his hunger for western money blinded his sense of judgement.

I wish this war never happened and I pray for the Ukrainians, but if Russia hadn't invaded Ukraine after Zelensky's action, then the USA would have deemed Russia as weak.


You all know how the USA treats weak nations, Right?

our Nigerian brothers are failing to see this.

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by skywalker240(m): 8:46am On Mar 09, 2022
obedience4:



What a lot of people fail to understand is this..with all the power showing and all that.. Nobody wants to start WW3, if a NATO country sends warplanes into Ukraine.. Note the warplanes will have to fly from an airbase in Germany a NATO country that will escalate tensions.. That will put NATO in direct conflict with Russia resulting in world war.. Now most of us don't understand the consequences of a world war.. We are all pushing for confrontation.. We have all seen the horrors of the Ukraine people a world war will be ten times worst.. Take your people Google the world war 2 and you will understand that even as countries tends to show power no body wants a world war..
When the us and its Allies attack Iraq the Russians and China were against it,the even vetoed it in the UN security council.. Ask your self why didn't Russia and China intervene in the conflict against the US and its
Allies. Why didn't Russia send warplanes and soldiers to the war on behalf of the Iraqis. They only allowed proxy like sending macinaries and provided money to the Iraqis.. The same thing is playing here.. A direct confrontation between Russia and NATO will be catastrophic for the world..
True

So they starts giving their puppets Dutch courage
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by puremaker7(m): 8:46am On Mar 09, 2022
starstunna1313:


You think so?.. Be informed that Russia do not have the capability of fighting Europe as a country. They do not have the logistics of fighting in different war zones at a time. Unlike USA that can have thousands of their soldiers and military assets fighting in different countries at a time
stop overhyping this USA pls
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by NOETHNICITY(m): 8:47am On Mar 09, 2022
obedience4:
What a lot of people fail to understand is this..with all the power showing and all that.. Nobody wants to start WW3, if a NATO country sends warplanes into Ukraine.. Note the warplanes will have to fly from an airbase in Germany a NATO country that will escalate tensions.. That will put NATO in direct conflict with Russia resulting in world war.. Now most of us don't understand the consequences of a world war.. We are all pushing for confrontation.. We have all seen the horrors of the Ukraine people a world war will be ten times worst.. Take your people Google the world war 2 and you will understand that even as countries tends to show power no body wants a world war..
When the us and its Allies attack Iraq the Russians and China were against it,the even vetoed it in the UN security council.. Ask your self why didn't Russia and China intervene in the conflict against the US and its
Allies. Why didn't Russia send warplanes and soldiers to the war on behalf of the Iraqis. They only allowed proxy like sending macinaries and provided money to the Iraqis.. The same thing is playing here.. A direct confrontation between Russia and NATO will be catastrophic for the world..
What you have stated here is what lots and lots of people don't know, even Zelenski does not know facts as simple as this. This is the reason he decided to invite the war in first place thinking NATO would come in. Also foolishly thinking NATO will impose no fly zone without considering the like consequences. Thinking NATO will fly planes on ukraine behalf and bomb russian troops. Zelenski is world's most naive president ever
Still he is foolishly accusing NATO of being afraid of getting involved. Meaning Zelenski would risk a nuclear war for the world just so just to contain russia.

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by MT: 8:48am On Mar 09, 2022
kaymart:
Indeed, Russia is a powerful nation

It is an average country . Before the sanction, Russia economy was 11th in the world behimd South Korea. The nuclear arsenal it has is for deterrent. UK, France etc have nuclear weapons too as a deterrent

Putin's Russia is so irresponsible. You are fighting with your mate with fist, then suddenly you threaten with cutlass. That's a sign you are frustrated and losing the fight.

The US is happy with Russia losing military hardware and military men. It's reducing the strength of Russia military. US intelligence thought Russia military was so strong, Ukraine had exposed them as a joke.

You will see the uprising in Russia gathering fast pace soon.The Russians themselves will move against Putin when the pain hits certain threshold.
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by OmoOshodi(m): 8:50am On Mar 09, 2022
Summary

US think say e wise...they asked Poland to supply Ukraine with aircraft directly.....Poland said NO I will send the aircraft to your base in Germany then you can now send it to Ukraine from there....The United States is looking for ways to destroy European countries without her direct involvements...

Poland and other country should be wise

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by unclejb2(m): 8:53am On Mar 09, 2022
Praxtech:

NATO precipitated this war. They're not reasonable. They toppled the former Ukrainian government. They're not reasonable. They've meddled with zelenskys brains beyond reversal. They're not reasonable. They're only scared shitless of the consequences of their actions.
you obviously know nothing about international politics
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by itubaba001: 8:53am On Mar 09, 2022
anambraamaka:
Why NATO dey fear Russia like this?
NATO isn't afraid or shy of any Russian troop . They are only calculating the castrophic effect of the after war . it will take less than 3week for Nato to clear Putin men . It very clear with the way it playing out in Ukraine .
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by 9gerian: 8:54am On Mar 09, 2022
Self preservation and avoidance of WW3.

Ukraine was the foolish one that allowed itself to be used as bait in order to be able to punish Russia.

Ukraine seems to want the WW3 believing that the US and NATO would win and do a reset of Russia, but the US thinks otherwise and knows that it is a very dangerous prospect.

Reelz:
why is the US reluctant to fully help Ukraine in this war..
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Praxtech: 8:54am On Mar 09, 2022
MT:


It is an average country . Before the sanction, Russia economy was 11th in the world behimd South Korea. The nuclear arsenal it has is for deterrent. UK, France etc have. nuclear weapons too as a deterrent

Putin's Russia is so irresponsible. You are fighting with your mate with fist, then suddenly you threaten with cutlass. That's a sign you are frustrated and losing the fight.

The US is happy with Russia losing military hardware and military men. It's reducing the strength of Russia military. US intelligence thought Russia military was so strong, Ukraine had exposed them as a joke.

You will see the uprising in Russia gathering fast pace soon.The Russians themselves will move against Putin when the pain hits certain threshold.
You painted just one scenario...... What about if Russia isn't attacking Ukraine with half of its military might?

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by obedience4(m): 8:55am On Mar 09, 2022
skywalker240:

True

So they starts giving their puppets Dutch courage

It just normal international politics.. Countries switch alliances every time, ten years ago Ukraine was pro Russia.. Vietnam was a communist State one time..but today it is pro west.so is Thailand,... Gulf countries like the uae, Jordan were against the West for a long time.. Now they are pro west.. Even allowing US bases in their territories.. So countries changes alliance.. Putin
Shouldn't have attack a sovereign Nation
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by NOETHNICITY(m): 8:55am On Mar 09, 2022
MT:


It is an average country . Before the sanction, Russia economy was 11th in the world behimd South Korea. The nuclear arsenal it has is for deterrent. UK, France etc have nuclear weapons too as a deterrent

Putin's Russia is so irresponsible. You are fighting with your mate with fist, then suddenly you threaten with cutlass. That's a sign you are frustrated and losing the fight.

The US is happy with Russia losing military hardware and military men. It's reducing the strength of Russia military. US intelligence thought Russia military was so strong, Ukraine had exposed them as a joke.

You will see the uprising in Russia gathering fast pace soon.The Russians themselves will move against Putin when the pain hits certain threshold.
Bro forget What you typed here. You call world's 11th biggest economy average?? 11th for Godsake.
Second, in ur analogy you accuse Russia of using cutlass to fight a mate. What the fuuuuck
Go find out how the US bombed iraq and Libya and aghan. Infact war analyst have stressed the fact that Russia has actually been very very lenient for a host of reason. It doesn't want to employ US carpet bombing tactics that would have brought down ukraine within 3 days
When u pick up a fight with ur mate who hase cutlass, guns and probably a bomb. But he chose to fight you only with cutlass then that mate is being lenient

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by YoungBlackRico(m): 8:56am On Mar 09, 2022
Ayubakoloba:
I don't even know why anything USA says matter
Yeah sit in the corner of your room and type rubbish as usual.

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Praxtech: 8:56am On Mar 09, 2022
9gerian:
Self preservation and avoidance of WW3.

Ukraine was the foolish one that allowed itself to be used as bait in order to be able to punish Russia.

Ukraine seems to want the WW3 believing that the US and NATO would win and .do a reset of Russia, but the US thinks otherwise and knows that it is a very dangerous prospect.

It is very dangerous because the global balance of power is very precarious. Engaging Russia will open up several fronts of armed violence that the US and allies need to be careful with.
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by classicfrank4u(m): 8:57am On Mar 09, 2022
Great0ne1:

Including US. Try and prove that wrong.
Not true..
NATO has about 6000+ nukes.. Russia has about 6000+ nukes too
So basically they have about the same number of nukes, and mind you they don't even need that amount to wipe out Russia.. Russia won't even survive a war with America alone not to talk of the whole NATO
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Praxtech: 8:58am On Mar 09, 2022
obedience4:


It just normal international politics.. Countries switch alliances every time, ten years ago Ukraine was pro Russia.. Vietnam was a communist State one time..but today it is pro west.so is Thailand,... Gulf countr.ies like the uae, Jordan were against the West for a long time.. Now they are pro west.. Even allowing US bases in their territories.. So countries changes alliance.. Putin
Shouldn't have attack a sovereign Nation
Putin acted fast for a war assured to occur

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by skywalker240(m): 8:58am On Mar 09, 2022
obedience4:


It just normal international politics.. Countries switch alliances every time, ten years ago Ukraine was pro Russia.. Vietnam was a communist State one time..but today it is pro west.so is Thailand,... Gulf countries like the uae, Jordan were against the West for a long time.. Now they are pro west.. Even allowing US bases in their territories.. So countries changes alliance.. Putin
Shouldn't have attack a sovereign Nation
Politics is game of interest

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by jazon(m): 8:59am On Mar 09, 2022
anambraamaka:
Why NATO dey fear Russia like this?

No be fear. They want to do the right thing. So that Russia would not use that as an excuse to attack NATO claiming that NATO attacked them first. US wants Russia to be the first aggressor.
What happened in 1939-1945 would soon happen.
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by classicfrank4u(m): 8:59am On Mar 09, 2022
ken6488:
that's the true

Around 7000

Main while only 200 is enough to destroy Europe
Russia has around 6000, same with NATO..
So the whole of Europe will fold their hands and watch him deploy the 200 abi?
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Nobody: 9:00am On Mar 09, 2022
ken6488:

Shut up, do you think we don't know, have you read about the mad theory,

No European president is willing do let Europe destroy because of Ukraine
We know your types…
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by WhatCanIsay(m): 9:01am On Mar 09, 2022
Westloop13:
In war there are no winners ,just survivors who lost alot of friends, family and hope.
I hope Zelensky understands this sooner before his thirst for Western dollars ruins his country

EDIT: For some of you quoting me, If Zelensky valued Ukraine's sovereignty, he should have understood that inviting the US to stage nuclear weapons pointed at Russia in a country situated right next to Russia will definitely force Russia to act in self-defence.

Sovereignty is like democracy, some lines are not meant to be crossed. Zelensky understood this, but his hunger for western money blinded his sense of judgement.

I wish this war never happened and I pray for the Ukrainians, but if Russia hadn't invaded Ukraine after Zelensky's action, then the USA would have deemed Russia as weak.

You all know how the USA treats weak nations, Right?


Can you give a creditable source for America using Ukraine for staging nuclear weapons?

Lol the sort of brainwashing Russia propaganda has done on some people is unimaginable. The worst is that they don't even feel that they have been already brainwashed as they go on talking of western propaganda too.

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by MT: 9:02am On Mar 09, 2022
NOETHNICITY:
Bro forget What you typed here. You call world's 11th biggest economy average?? 11th for Godsake.
Second, in ur analogy you accuse Russia of using cutlass to fight a mate. What the fuuuuck
Go find out how the US bombed iraq and Libya and aghan. Infact war analyst have stressed the fact that Russia has actually been very very lenient for a host of reason. It doesn't want to employ US carpet bombing tactics that would have brought down ukraine within 3 days

Yes it's very average compared to the US.The whole of California alone has bigger economy than the whole of Russia. The whole of Texas has a bigger economy than the entire Canada. US is a beast and a genuine world power. They have the military asset, world powers as allies and financial war chest to prosecute any war and build frightening weaponry. US is stifling Russia with economic warfare because they have a lot of economic leverage on them. What has Russia got on the US, tell me? Even their oil has been banned. US, a nation built for war.....be Careful what you wish for.
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by WarriAproko: 9:03am On Mar 09, 2022
Make dem fight this world war sef. Make everybody die. Suo... since Putin say anybody wen involve go collect all their yanch open. If nah before u go see them dey act warling film
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Tochj(m): 9:04am On Mar 09, 2022
Westloop13:
In war there are no winners ,just survivors who lost alot of friends, family and hope.
I hope Zelensky understands this sooner before his thirst for Western dollars ruins his country

EDIT: For some of you quoting me, If Zelensky valued Ukraine's sovereignty, he should have understood that inviting the US to stage nuclear weapons pointed at Russia in a country situated right next to Russia will definitely force Russia to act in self-defence.

Sovereignty is like democracy, some lines are not meant to be crossed. Zelensky understood this, but his hunger for western money blinded his sense of judgement.

I wish this war never happened and I pray for the Ukrainians, but if Russia hadn't invaded Ukraine after Zelensky's action, then the USA would have deemed Russia as weak.

You all know how the USA treats weak nations, Right?

That comedian will go down as worst mistake of Ukraine.
I don't know what he is thinking when US and UK starts deceiving him.
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by WarriAproko: 9:04am On Mar 09, 2022
MT:


Yes it's very average compared to the US.The whole of California alone has bigger economy than the whole of Russia. The whole of Texas has a bigger economy than the entire Canada. US is a beast and a genuine world power. They have the military asset, world powers as allies and financial war chest to prosecute any war and build frightening weaponry. US is stifling Russia with economic warfare because they have a lot of economic leverage on them. What has Russia got on the US, tell me? Even their oil has been banned. US, a nation built for war.....be Careful what you wish for.
same lies. Dont tell this to d chinese man.

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