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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by ultimateprof: 6:40pm On Mar 09, 2022
This is good news. Ochu nwa okuko nwe ada, nwa okuko nwe mbobo oso!
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by GardenOfGod(m): 6:42pm On Mar 09, 2022
You must be a Russian Foreign Minister. Analysing with full certainty. grin
Appleyard:


It means you are not following the war and Russian strategy. Maybe you do, but mostly from the wrong and strongly bias sources.

The Russian strategy was never to occupy Ukraine. You don't occupy a country the size of Ukriane with 150,000 troops, the majority of which hasn't even tasted action yet. The strategy is to destroy Ukrainian military ability to wage "all-round" war, destroy and reshape the ruling class in Kiev, and forced a redefinition of the country's map/constitution by cutting off the East and adding the larger parts of the Donbass region into the already secured Luhansk and Donetsk People's Republics. Hence, you see the Russian forces concentrated on cities like Mariupol, Kharkiv, Kherson and Odessa. When you take a closer look at the map, what these cities have in common, apart from the sizable ethnic Russian speaking population, they occupy the larger parts of Ukrainian border area with Russia, which Moscow fears poses the greatest threat should Ukraine be member of NATO. If Russia is out to occupy the whole of Ukraine, we would be talking 400-500,000 ground troops, and that doesn't include special forces and military police. In fact, the Russians doesn't have the financial muscle to afford such occupation. Hence they termed this operation "special military operation". The areas mentioned will serve as a perfect buffer for the Russians in case their demand for Ukraine neutrality falls on deaf ears. Those cities coming under strict Russian control like Crimea would render any sense of Ukraine joining NATO less strategic from a US-led NATO point of view. Those are the areas they have surrounded now, while negotiations are currently ongoing in which the Russians have already demanded Ukraine declare neutrality, among other things. Should that fail, then they can secure these areas and use them as buffers. And don't believe the lying lamestream media, they have the capability to take those besieged cities. They're just buying time with the negotiations.

And yes, they already control one of the main targeted cities: Kherson.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by sokera: 6:45pm On Mar 09, 2022
GardenOfGod:
Ukrainian soldiers died too... But the point is... No one thought Ukrainian soldiers could cause heavy casualties on Russian soldiers in this way... Its supprises Putin himself.
home game is easy for home base . Remember Putin said he is doing operations that it’s not war . Ukraine see it as war and russia see it as operation … russia is taking it lightly I believe because they are trying to avoid killing civilians…

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by olugabbie(m): 6:54pm On Mar 09, 2022
GardenOfGod:
do you think Putin thought such number would die when jee planned the inversion?

Well! It is war. Anything can happen.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Mrtaye: 6:58pm On Mar 09, 2022
GardenOfGod:
Yes you are right. No one expected any Russian casualties... Even Putin thought he will win the war in a matter of days in the first week.
They never planned to fight for this long that's why they are exhausted.
Are you going to win it for Putin
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by obedience4(m): 7:00pm On Mar 09, 2022
Appleyard:


It means you are not following the war and Russian strategy. Maybe you do, but mostly from the wrong and strongly bias sources.

The Russian strategy was never to occupy Ukraine. You don't occupy a country the size of Ukriane with 150,000 troops, the majority of which hasn't even tasted action yet. The strategy is to destroy Ukrainian military ability to wage "all-round" war, destroy and reshape the ruling class in Kiev, and forced a redefinition of the country's map/constitution by cutting off the East and adding the larger parts of the Donbass region into the already secured Luhansk and Donetsk People's Republics. Hence, you see the Russian forces concentrated on cities like Mariupol, Kharkiv, Kherson and Odessa. When you take a closer look at the map, what these cities have in common, apart from the sizable ethnic Russian speaking population, they occupy the larger parts of Ukrainian border area with Russia, which Moscow fears poses the greatest threat should Ukraine be member of NATO. If Russia is out to occupy the whole of Ukraine, we would be talking 400-500,000 ground troops, and that doesn't include special forces and military police. In fact, the Russians doesn't have the financial muscle to afford such occupation. Hence they termed this operation "special military operation". The areas mentioned will serve as a perfect buffer for the Russians in case their demand for Ukraine neutrality falls on deaf ears. Those cities coming under strict Russian control like Crimea would render any sense of Ukraine joining NATO less strategic from a US-led NATO point of view. Those are the areas they have surrounded now, while negotiations are currently ongoing in which the Russians have already demanded Ukraine declare neutrality, among other things. Should that fail, then they can secure these areas and use them as buffers. And don't believe the lying lamestream media, they have the capability to take those besieged cities. They're just buying time with the negotiations.

And yes, they already control one of the main targeted cities: Kherson.

They don't want to capture the capital.. Yet a 40km convey is currently heading to Kiev.. And the Russia military has constantly Shell Kiev and is making advancement to encircled Kiev.. The only thing Putin got wrong was the level of resistance he got.. When the war started Putin said he wanted to disnazified Ukraine and demilitarized Ukraine..
Have you watched his speech that's not someone biding time to negotiate.. He told the France president marcon that he wanted the whole of Ukraine.. If Putin wanted to negotiate after taking total control of the sepretaives held cites he would have stop its advancement instead he is marching to Kiev..
And by Gods Grace he will fail

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Mrtaye: 7:02pm On Mar 09, 2022
Wannabenz:

Guy do you know what's 10,000 people? Lol. I think na there you go start and remember Ukraine is on the defensive so if above 10,000 soldiers of Russia has been killed while Russia has taken over some places, civilians deaths are less than 500. And if you're uptodate with the invasion map, you'll see those figures are fake. 10,000 persons no be 100 people Oo. I'm not supporting anyone, people are dying and a whole country is being destroyed. Forget this online propaganda,go and watch what's going on there. Ukraine capital city has been sorounded,the only free side there is Ukraine West.
it's been surrounded since last week what's delaying them with all their arsenal
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Blackdisciple(m): 7:07pm On Mar 09, 2022
Comradewhy:
I think the USA are supplying Ukraine with intels,how come they are hitting the generals so easily.
Who else thinks Putin deserves this?


It doesn't matter, it's a fight any means to eliminate your enemy issa ok
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Blackdisciple(m): 7:08pm On Mar 09, 2022
Na so ...

Na fight men go fall.....
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Holaomoakin(m): 7:10pm On Mar 09, 2022
Alm.. (sahra)!
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Teaser4(m): 7:16pm On Mar 09, 2022
Appleyard:


I understand, but Gaddamnit! The Psy-ops and mind control is appalling. So many people can't think for themselves anymore. This is bad. You don't have to love or hate one side to see or perceive reality for yourself. Unfortunately, some of our brothers here have chosen to live in false reality.
Well, I’m not surprised bro, they’re programmed idi0ts nah the same set of folks voted for bubu and still supporting him blindly, in real they’re frustrated, lives in abject poverty na NL be the only place dem fit vent their vituperation, on their cheap phones with 50mb… you can’t convince em they’re living zombies, nah to Dey observe… make dem Dey wallow in their ignorance

Source of the image na Foxnews…nah one user with a functional brain Dey be that…

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by YoungBlackRico(m): 7:26pm On Mar 09, 2022
Appleyard:


Why should I kill myself for Ukraine or Russia? I'm just an observing Nigerian with objective views and logical analysis cool

I hope you won't act like some foolish Nigerians who queues up to travel to Ukraine and die for people who pushed their kind out off trains and prevent them from crossing borders to safety from the war??

We still love you YoungBlackRico cool
Boy, there's nothing objective about your view. You already chose a side so spare me the balderdash. grin

As for those traveling to fight for Ukraine, we all know those are soldiers of fortune. They most probably don't even know where the phuck Ukraine is on the map.

grin
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by AFONJAPIG(m): 7:29pm On Mar 09, 2022
He died in active service of mother Russia, unlike one useless dullard in Aso rock wey never carry arm or lead ordinary coup until he became general unmerited
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by planetx: 7:30pm On Mar 09, 2022
If this was a powerless third world country, cowardly Yankees would have intervened dropping bombs all over the place. But because it is Russia they are all giving excuses why they should not intervene and impose no fly zone. Impose your no fly zone and call Putins bluff or shut up forever.

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Appleyard(m): 7:39pm On Mar 09, 2022
TrueNigerian300:

Thank you for your balanced view this is how every reasonable person should think. Even despite many obvious lies that have been reported I am still surprised people are taking the western propaganda machine serious.If not a fool who will believe a country that has been surrounded with no control of their air space or water space is winning a war? They said Russia army is weak yet the same westerners are scared of confronting Russia even Poland is not ready to deliver fighter jets from their airspace. You can imagine how all of them are thinking of what Russia is capable of doing yet you have novice that have PhD in war telling you others.


I don't blame them. Many of them sold themselves to Hollywood and MSM propanganda and mind control machine where the Muslims are painted as terrorist, Africans as slaves, the Chinese as primitive, the Russians as oppressors, the Jews as victims, the French as fashionable, the British as good colonialist and of course, the Americans as the saviour of mankind.

Thus, to this guy's, if it isn't America, anybody that does it is weak, inferior, dirty, wicked, the devil and so on.

They say Russia is weak despite being in control of the sea and air of the enemy, and having it surrounded within it's major cities, with one city already in their control in less than two weeks. But they forgot that it took the United States a whole THREE WEEKS to take control of Baghdad, and that is even with the support of Britain and other allies who helped in carpet-bombing whole villages and buildings killing one million people.

They say Russia has no modern weapons, because initially it chose to treat Ukraine with kids gloves, did not even deploy the best tanks in its armament, made very scanty use of it's aviation after the first 'shock and awe' forray, despite controlling the skies; rather relying more on standoff weapon strikes. But when it started real bombing for the last 4 days, they cried he is bombing hospitals, schools and killing civilians leaving the city despite glaring footages of members of Ukrainian forces using banned phosphorus and positioning their weaponry in civilian buildings using people as human shields. Can you imagine that one French reporter that reported this was criticized by his people? The world is a real terrible place to be at the moment.
And these guys here forgot that America and NATO after 20 years could not defeat a rag-tag Taliban forces in Afghanistan despite their
"modern weapons". The hypocrisy and double standard is very sad and pathetic.

NATO wanted to goad Poland into delivering it's Mig-29 fighter planes to Ukraine, the choice of Poland is because the Polish border is the only area where those planes can be delivered and that is not even by air. They will have to do it via engine pulled haulers under the cover of night because the Russians are watching the skies from all angles and will shoot down any flying plane once it cross into the Uki airspace. Fortunately, the Pols calculated that the risk will be too enormous so they offered the planes to the US to do the handover to Ukraine. But Pentagon said NO, citing the risk of higher escalation. They knew that ones those planes entered Ukrainian sky, it is "Boom" and believe me, there is nothing anyone can do about it unless if they are crazy enough to start a nuclear war.

Unfortunately, it appears that most of these propangandized folks in here don't even know about this happenings; how the world is just a very thin line away from World War 3. They think this is Hollywood where the US and it's Nationalized American Terrorists Organization'(NATO) can send 5 super soldiers into a city and kill everyone in that city and nothing will hurt them. I feel like weeping reading some of the comments here.

I pray this war ends sooner than later. It's getting too scary for the security of the world.

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Appleyard(m): 7:42pm On Mar 09, 2022
MERCHANDISER:


Even US and NATO dey fear Russia.
Make una continue dey hype Ukraine and their comedian president till Russia exterminate them from the world map.

Putin is just being too lenient with his younger brother(Ukraine )

Some folks here don't even know that Putin's mother is from Ukraine.

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by IamAtikulate: 7:44pm On Mar 09, 2022
I believe the number for three reasons.

1. Russian battle principle is wacked. It allows the military to suffer a lot of collateral damages unlike USA's doctrine that is anchored on minimizing it's casualities.

For example, it lost over 4.9 million soldiers just to kill 1 million Germans during WW 2. Again, it lost about over 350k soldiers to kill 70,000 Finish soldiers during the winter war.

USA lost a total of about 400,000 soldiers during the WW 2 while Russia lost nearly 5 million repelling Germans alone.

USA lost only 12 soldiers and 1 CIA in it's 20 years invasion of Afghan but Russia lost about 9k in it's 10 years of war against Afghans.

2. Russian war doctrine allows the use of nuclear threat to descalate conventional warfare. Pulling the nuclear card means Putin wants to descalate the war because he is disadvantaged but unfortunately his Nairaland zombies don't even know Russian doctrine.

3. Losing top generals means many of his soldiers will go down. During WW 2, USA lost on average 10,000 soldiers for every 1 general killed. In total, they lost 40 generals out of 1,100 and suffered about 400,000 military deaths.

We are already aware Russian had lost 2 Maj. General, a general, 2 Lt. Col and other top commanders. So 12,000 casualities is not out of place.

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by blackgold2018(m): 7:45pm On Mar 09, 2022
GardenOfGod:

Because most countries that should respond are advanced and more saner than Russia. No one want to be reduced to the level of Russian states... All us states are far more advanced than Russia... Inclusing the great Britain and other European countries.
not to be reduced to level of Russia?

By being inhuman? On Ukraine president pleads?
As Ukraine citizens are dying daily, including children.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Appleyard(m): 7:47pm On Mar 09, 2022
frog12:
common men, 12000 in a few days. dem be cockroaches?


Croacroash better na, dey must be flies... cool

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Appleyard(m): 7:49pm On Mar 09, 2022
obedience4:



You are not well informed.. During the word war 2 the major victory for armies is to target command post were the general are.. As long as you are in the battle field. Either you are in close proximity to where the action is doesn't matters.. As long as you are in the battle field a command post of and enemy general can be targeted....

And you saw the command post targeted by the Ukrainians who don't even have an airforce anymore? undecided

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Appleyard(m): 7:50pm On Mar 09, 2022
ginggerxy:
major generals do command in the war , even in Nigeria major generals heads most of those operations you hear about . And they're always at the war front too
I think it's from Lieutenant general they stop going

Noted.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Wannabenz: 7:56pm On Mar 09, 2022
Mrtaye:
it's been surrounded since last week what's delaying them with all their arsenal
Not sorounded yet but they're getting there.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by loswhite(m): 7:56pm On Mar 09, 2022
History555:
12,000 russian troops dead, no Ukraine soldier has died, no Ukraine tank destroyed. Wonderful
You can paste for Ukraine.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by loswhite(m): 7:58pm On Mar 09, 2022
Appleyard:
Another foolish western MSM propanganda, worst, it's coming from the Sun.

Since when do Major Generals go to the frontlines where the battle rages? grin Amateur propaganda.

12,000 dead like it's something you can hide easily from public view. It's only on western MSM that Ukraine is ditching out such heavy losses on the Russians when they don't have planes, no navy, major cities besieged by Russians, airspace mostly under Russian control, and the West planning to setup a Ukrainian Government in exile. Yet Ukraine is winning. undecided

Even Satan's jaws are dropping in awe at how magnificently great Western media propaganda is in telling lies. They make Lucifer look like a learner. cool
Goat who said Ukraine is winning? Empty head
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by loswhite(m): 8:00pm On Mar 09, 2022
Wannabenz:

Guy do you know what's 10,000 people? Lol. I think na there you go start and remember Ukraine is on the defensive so if above 10,000 soldiers of Russia has been killed while Russia has taken over some places, civilians deaths are less than 500. And if you're uptodate with the invasion map, you'll see those figures are fake. 10,000 persons no be 100 people Oo. I'm not supporting anyone, people are dying and a whole country is being destroyed. Forget this online propaganda,go and watch what's going on there. Ukraine capital city has been sorounded,the only free side there is Ukraine West.
Lol coming from someone on the Ground...It is quite funny how ppl sit in their room and tell you exactly what is happening in Ukraine.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by loswhite(m): 8:03pm On Mar 09, 2022
Wannabenz:


Man if Ukraine has killed over 10,000 Russian soldiers so far then they're winning the war but that's a fat lie. Why are they requesting for a no fly zone? Be watchful on how Russian are taking thier cities,it keeps increasing everyday. The media is controlled by the west and they don't talk about Russia side of the story. The only free area in Ukraine is the west. Russia is circling east, South and North so forget this propaganda.
Russia has captured Ukraine completely. The western media will not tell you this....lol... They Believe RT news is not propaganda but Western media is propaganda.

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Wannabenz: 8:06pm On Mar 09, 2022
loswhite:
Russia has captured Ukraine completely. The western media will not tell you this....lol... They Believe RT news is not propaganda but Western media is propaganda.

Nah Ukraine is selling fake news to the world.

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Vado(m): 8:09pm On Mar 09, 2022
AleAirHub:
If the news is not lies, I guess USA or Other Strong NATO countries may have been supplying Ukraine �� Intels grin

True. Unofficially they are doing but they have to allow Zelensky lament as if they aren’t doing anything to help. That way, Russia won’t outrightly face the US.

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Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Kingspin(m): 8:09pm On Mar 09, 2022
hopeforcharles:
Ok this is Russia's loss, Have u ever imagined Ukraine's loss?
This war is grossly underreported, if Russia with all its military artilleries are losing this much then probably quarter of Feeble, half baked ,slightly arm-less crying Ukraine have been wiped of.
Are you fighting to kill innocent civilians or fellow soldiers in a war?

The same thing when Putin put alert on nuclear fight, nuclear is not a conventional war but war against humanity.
Fight with your fellow soldiers leave innocent people.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by Nobody: 8:19pm On Mar 09, 2022
Appleyard:


The last operational military airfield was destroyed by Russian stand off missiles. Or am I mistaken? undecided

Very mistaken, and Ukraine still has their Airforce operating, And the sky is still being contested.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by bergs2: 8:22pm On Mar 09, 2022
Malory:
Reasonable Nigerians shouldn't dispute or support this simply because propaganda is a major tool used during any war and someone from Ogbomosho, Sabon gari, or Onitsha might not know the truth about what is going on in far away eastern Europe. Nigerians we move

When the outcome doesn't suit your narratives, you begin shift post.
Wetin bring Ogbomosho, Sabon gari and Onitsha into the discuss?
The truth is that Russia is losing because Ukrainians are fighting together against a mad man.
Re: Kill List: Putin’s Losses Mount With 9 Commanders Among ‘12,000 Killed' - Sun UK by bergs2: 8:28pm On Mar 09, 2022
Appleyard:
Another foolish western MSM propanganda, worst, it's coming from the Sun.

Since when do Major Generals go to the frontlines where the battle rages? grin Amateur propaganda.

12,000 dead like it's something you can hide easily from public view. It's only on western MSM that Ukraine is ditching out such heavy losses on the Russians when they don't have planes, no navy, major cities besieged by Russians, airspace mostly under Russian control, and the West planning to setup a Ukrainian Government in exile. Yet Ukraine is winning. undecided

Even Satan's jaws are dropping in awe at how magnificently great Western media propaganda is in telling lies. They make Lucifer look like a learner. cool

I wonder how you take know all these if you aren't dependent on western media; because am pretty sure you are not running an independent journalism in Ukraine right now.
Russia is losing! Simple.

If you like dey fume for mouth, it yet doesn't change the reality.
Close to 14 days now, Kyiv is still standing.

Putin man! How market?

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