jaxxy:


Taliban was a terrorist coven not a constituted government. The US had ever right to dislodge it and even when they left Taliban had to agree not to be used as a terrorist base anymore or else the US can come for them again.

Let us say the whole facts pls.

Wow, this your point is interesting, so you are saying the US government deliberately handed over a sovereign country to a terrorist group as well as equip them with US sophisticated weapons worth over 500 million dollars.. Wow, bravo to the US

I truly feel for Ukraine but I hate all these propaganda from the west. They are manipulative!

MansoryMX:



And you think I am in support of what America did to Libya? This is where you people get it wrong. Leave America to face their Karma and focus on the atrocities being done to Ukrainians by Russia.

Oh really, America should be left for Karma, but Russia are the one that should be called out.
Your double standard stinks

2packer:


Wow, this your point is interesting, so you are saying the US government deliberately handed over a sovereign country to a terrorist group as well as equip them with US sophisticated weapons worth over 500 million dollars.. Wow, bravo to the US

They destroyed the terrorist covens and tried to fix in a better government to replace the terrorist sympathizer government bt later gave way on grounds and assurance they are not used for future terrorist activities.

So no they didn’t hand over anything they left with the warning they will be back if the Taliban allowed themselves to use a terrorist coven again.

Even Russia will do same if not worse.

tegafej:
I will always say it...

This fight is not worth it... At the end, Ukraine will accept Russia's terms and conditions... And it will all be for nothing...

Even if they don't, it will be pyrhic victory cos the cost will be too much for Ukraine.

A wise leader should know when to retreat.

I just pity for Europe. USA wants to finish eastern Europe. USA knows what she is doing.
One, USA wants to reduce Russia to serious nothing via dragging Russia into war, making Russia spend heavily on war and then influence others to sanction Russia which will surely drag her economy back and suffer her large population. This is a way to get at Russia and reduce her influence.

USA had to do this by pushing another country which USA knows can never defeat Russia in war which is Ukraine. This way, USA wins.
The main target for this war is Russia that is why sanctions were rushed.
USA got want they wanted, Russia will bleed and her global growth will slow down. There could be crises in the country sef if Putin is not careful. USA may plant political crises there. USA for long has always looked for a way to drag down any country that competes with them.
Unfortunately, Ukraine has to pay the price for this to work.
Don't ever mess with USA CIA. They are too, too, too advanced in stuff like this. This whole thing looks like CIA staged.

Propaganda!
May Vladimir putin succeed!

chameleon98:


https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/09/ukraine-war-childrens-hospital-in-mariupol-wiped-out-by-russian-bombing-16246328/

War-time crimes.

wealthtrak:

War-time crimes.

Which war crime and which court to prosecute a war crime ? International court of justice.

Under the law, the U.S. is still able to help bring accused war criminals to justice — unless they are American citizens. The law prohibits the extradition of anyone in the United States to The Hague and prevents ICC officials from conducting investigations on American soil.

You see one sided law and powerless ICC ..It cannot do anythimg to usa citizen even if they commit war crime.

The Qana massacre took place on April 18, 1996, near Qana, a village in Southern Lebanon, when the Israel Defense Forces fired artillery shells at a United Nations compound. 800 Lebanese civilians who had taken refuge in the compound, 106 were killed and around 116 injured. Four Fijian United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon soldiers were also seriously injured. The U.N. Security Council did not to condemn the Qana massacre, due to the U.S.A veto.

I hate war but ukraine allow itself to be use as a toy in the hand of the west. Over 20 years putin have raise with the west

Russia’s security concerns are in fact genuine, and that NATO expansion eastward is seen by Russians as directed against their country. Putin has been clear for many years that if continued, the expansion would likely be met with serious resistance by the Russians, even with military action.

That perspective isn’t held just by Russians; some influential American foreign policy experts have subscribed to it as well.

Among others, Biden’s CIA director, William J. Burns, has been warning about the provocative effect of NATO expansion on Russia since 1995. That’s when Burns, then a political officer in the U.S. Embassy in Moscow, reported to Washington that “hostility to early NATO expansion is almost universally felt across the domestic political spectrum here.”
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO, is a military alliance that was formed by the U.S., Canada and several European nations in 1949 to contain the USSR and the spread of communism
When President Bill Clinton’s administration moved to bring Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic into NATO, Burns wrote that the decision was “premature at best, and needlessly provocative at worst.”

In June 1997, 50 prominent foreign policy experts signed an open letter to Clinton, saying, “We believe that the current U.S. led effort to expand NATO … is a policy error of historic proportions” that would “unsettle European stability.”

In 2008, Burns, then the American ambassador to Moscow, wrote to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice: “Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putin’s sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests.
There are different outcomes to the current crisis depending on whether you see its cause as Russian imperialism or NATO expansionism.

If you think the war in Ukraine is the work of a determined imperialist, any actions short of defeating the Russians will look like 1938 Munich-style appeasement and Joe Biden becomes the reviled Neville Chamberlain, the British prime minister who acceded to Hitler’s demands for territory in Czechoslovakia only to find himself deceived as the Nazis steadily marched to war.

If, however, you believe that Russia has legitimate concerns about NATO expansion, then the door is open to discussion, negotiation, compromise and concessions.

Putin himself was traumatized by the disintegration of the Soviet Union in 1991, the loss of one-third of its former territory and half of its population. In an instant, the USSR disappeared, and Russia found itself much weaker and more vulnerable to rival great powers.

Many Russians agree with Putin and feel resentment and humiliation, along with anxiety about the future. But overwhelmingly they do not want war,


Let look at history and the origin of the whole criss then we have a better approach to the solution..war is not a solution..we hope for peace

luminouz:

You are so worried about far away Ukraine but what of Leah Sharibu that Boko Haram took many years ago....what of the many souls killed in this country and that Bamise girl that BRT driver killed? When are their killers getting humbled bro?
Do you know Ethiopia and Tigrays are fighting seriously right now? They are Africans and supposedly descendants of Queen Sheba in the bible.

The sad part of it all is that both Russia and Ukraine don't even like blacks. They think we are monkeys that talk. They treat us bad yet you lots keep cussing and yelling and I wonder why you guys are so foolish. You think if war breaks out in Nigeria, Ukraine or Russia would give a damn? They won't. They just don't care

Calm down luminous. I m very worried about Ethiopia, Bamise that was just killed, Leah Sharibu, Chibok & all the ills happening world wide.
I talked on this thread cos it concerned Ukraine.
I m aware some Ukrainians, Russians, Arabs, Europeans, Americans & whitemen are racists.
I m speaking for the sane people worldwide which I m part of them.
The war in Ukraine is wrong. The killing of Bamise is wrong. Terrorists are murderers.
I condemned evil. Ukraine's case is an example

tonididdy:
Disgusting ., the shameless and heartless Ukrainians keep hiding behind schools, churches, train stations, nuclear sites to commit atrocities.


Sacrificing innocent lives just to prove a point to the ICC, utterly disgusting

I think you need to check into a hospital for evaluation. You seem to lack empathy and sometimes it is a symptom of an underlying psychological condition that is much more severe than presented on the surface.

Even if you are a paid Russian propagandist, in situations like this you learn to be silent if you cannot express human sympathy.

Keegan:


God bless Putin.

God won't bless the evil.
If the evil shines, it's just for a while cos their days of terror ll be dreadful.
You the sympathiser may even take part of their suffering too.

Babinski:


I think you need to check into a hospital for evaluation. You seem to lack empathy and sometimes it is a symptom of an underlying psychological condition that is much more severe than presented on the surface.

Even if you are a paid Russian propagandist, in situations like this you learn to be silent if you cannot express human sympathy.

You cannot sympathise with fools...

Where's your proof that Russian army did this.
For all we know, the clown of a president could have sacrificed this.
Next minute he is crying crocodile tears asking for a "no fly zone ".
All to prove a point to the world, he rocked his own buildings.

Princedapace:


I just pity for Europe. USA wants to finish eastern Europe. USA knows what she is doing.
One, USA wants to reduce Russia to serious nothing via dragging Russia into war, making Russia spend heavily on war and then influence others to sanction Russia which will surely drag her economy back and suffer her large population. This is a way to get at Russia and reduce her influence.

USA had to do this by pushing another country which USA knows can never defeat Russia in war which is Ukraine. This way, USA wins.
The main target for this war is Russia that is why sanctions were rushed.
USA got want they wanted, Russia will bleed and her global growth will slow down. There could be crises in the country sef if Putin is not careful. USA may plant political crises there. USA for long has always looked for a way to drag down any country that competes with them.
Unfortunately, Ukraine has to pay the price for this to work.
Don't ever mess with USA CIA. They are too, too, too advanced in stuff like this. This whole thing looks like CIA staged.

Welcome on board.
We no reach 10 wey dey see through this whole charade.
But in all Putin had to act, the threats were too much.
If he didn't act Russia would be sorry...

tegafej:


And are you even aware that Zelenskyy has said Ukraine has no interest in joining NATO again in this second round of peace talk that is about to begin?

Lol... Maybe you don't really know how international politics play out.

At the end, the war will be for nothing...

little boy, what has "ZELENSKY's LATEST ASSERTION ABOUT NOT JOINING NATO got to do with your advise that UKRAINIANS SHOULD TROW IN THE TOWEL AND FLEE FROM THEIR ANCESTRAL LAND?" - you can not argue solidly on your initial stand and you are making a futile attempt to drown the discussion with irrelevant comments Zelensky made about NATO

MY question to you is that - DID AFGHANS NOT DEFEAT USSR in 1979 ?

DID VIETNAM NOT DEFEAT THE USA ?

Afghanistan and Vietnam do not have nuclear bombs like RUSSIA and USA

Ukraine can be today's VIETNAM and AFGHANISTAN judging my historical precedents


So, why are you telling the Ukrainians to flee their country? You are a fearful kid!!!!

okuta007:




little boy, what has "ZELENSKY's LATEST ASSERTION ABOUT NOT JOINING NATO got to do with your advise that UKRAINIANS SHOULD TROW IN THE TOWEL AND FLEE FROM THEIR ANCESTRAL LAND?" - you can not argue solidly on your initial stand and you are making a futile attempt to drown the discussion with irrelevant comments Zelensky made about NATO

MY question to you is that - DID AFGHANS NOT DEFEAT USSR in 1979 ?

DID VIETNAM NOT DEFEAT THE USA ?

Afghanistan and Vietnam do not have nuclear bombs like RUSSIA and USA

Ukraine can be today's VIETNAM and AFGHANISTAN judging my historical precedents


So, why are you telling the Ukrainians to flee their country? You are a fearful kid!!!!

Lol... Life of a faceless platform

jaxxy:


Taliban was a terrorist coven not a constituted government. The US had ever right to dislodge it and even when they left Taliban had to agree not to be used as a terrorist base anymore or else the US can come for them again.

Let us say the whole facts pls.

You see your life? Just because America says Taliban are terrorists, that qualified that innocent Afghans should be bombarded?
According to Putin, the present Ukraine government is Neo Nazi which he qualified as terrorists that must be dislodged before they gain ability to cause harm to Russia. Why can't you believe him, but believe America that the Libyans, Afghans, Iraqis, Syrians they have been raining bombs on are terrorists?
If America has right to dislodge the Taliban because it saw them as terrorists, Russia too has right to dislodge the terrorists neo Nazi government of zelensky building around her border.
Besides, who approved that rights for America, but denies Russia her own rights?

Josywhyte:


Read why Ukrainian president condemned NATO and EU for their suffering. They are busy supplying weapons so Russia will be killing the Ukrainians the more. Dig deep into this matter from 2014 and u will come to understand

spoken like a true conspiracy theorist. all fluff, no substance.

gawu1:

You see your life? Just because America says Taliban are terrorists, that qualified that innocent Afghans should be bombarded?
According to Putin, the present Ukraine government is Neo Nazi which he qualified as terrorists that must be dislodged before they gain ability to cause harm to Russia. Why can't you believe him, but believe America that the Libyans, Afghans, Iraqis, Syrians they have been raining bombs on are terrorists?
If America has right to dislodge the Taliban because it saw them as terrorists, Russia too has right to dislodge the terrorists neo Nazi government of zelensky building around her border.
Besides, who approved that rights for America, but denies Russia her own rights?

U seem to be arguing blindly. Didn’t we all see the 9/11 attacks and we all know it was osama who was from Saudi Arabia bt cos of his heinous crimes had to hide in Afghanistan with his other terrorists links.

Even Saudi Arabia disowned osama cos of 9/11 so what do u mean bt cos US called them terrorists? They were responsible for 9/11 and even Taliban said they will no longer be used as a terrorist coven again b4 US left meaning they know they worked with terrorists.

If 9/11 happened to Russia they will do worse bt US can’t attack a democrat state for no reason like Russia.

jaxxy:


U seem to be arguing blindly. Didn’t we all see the 9/11 attacks and we all know it was osama who was from Saudi Arabia bt cos of his heinous crimes had to hide in Afghanistan with his other terrorists links.

Even Saudi Arabia disowned osama cos of 9/11 so what do u mean bt cos US called them terrorists? They were responsible for 9/11 and even Taliban said they will no longer be used as a terrorist coven again b4 US left meaning they know they worked with terrorists.

If 9/11 happened to Russia they will do worse bt US can’t attack a democrat state for no reason like Russia.

Ukraine is a democrat state?

The usa State Department human rights report in 2020 especially faulted unlawful or arbitrary killing by internal security forces of ukraine . “The government generally failed to take adequate steps to prosecute or punish most officials who committed abuses, resulting in a climate of impunity,” the report said. “Human rights groups and the United Nations noted significant deficiencies in investigations into alleged human rights abuses committed by government security forces.”
The report noted the problem of extrajudicial killings was even worse “in the Russia-instigated and -fueled conflict in the Donbas region” and in Russia-occupied Crimea.

Ukraine, to be technical, is not a democracy, “Democracies don’t arrest political opponents, and they don’t shut down opposition media, both of which Ukraine has done. And by the way, Ukraine is a pure client state of the United States State Department — again, that’s fine.America can go ahead and run Ukraine , if they think they can do a better job than Ukrainians. Just don’t tell us it’s a democracy.”

USA Is turning to Venezuela for oil to checkmate russia oil

After calling president Maduro of venezuela a dictator,undemocratic and Illegitimate for 4 years.
They are trying to win him over now to checkmate Putin.

In the world today "There are no permanent enemies, only permanent interests".

P

House34:


Ukraine is a democrat state?

The usa State Department human rights report in 2020 especially faulted unlawful or arbitrary killing by internal security forces of ukraine . “The government generally failed to take adequate steps to prosecute or punish most officials who committed abuses, resulting in a climate of impunity,” the report said. “Human rights groups and the United Nations noted significant deficiencies in investigations into alleged human rights abuses committed by government security forces.”
The report noted the problem of extrajudicial killings was even worse “in the Russia-instigated and -fueled conflict in the Donbas region” and in Russia-occupied Crimea.

Ukraine, to be technical, is not a democracy, “Democracies don’t arrest political opponents, and they don’t shut down opposition media, both of which Ukraine has done. And by the way, Ukraine is a pure client state of the United States State Department — again, that’s fine.America can go ahead and run Ukraine , if they think they can do a better job than Ukrainians. Just don’t tell us it’s a democracy.”

USA Is turning to Venezuela for oil to checkmate russia oil

After calling president Maduro of venezuela a dictator,undemocratic and Illegitimate for 4 years.
They are trying to win him over now to checkmate Putin.

In the world today "There are no permanent enemies, only permanent interests".

Nobody said Democratic states are perfect just like Nigeria many against the government are persecuted and media attacked bt there are democratic laws to check these excesses now or later. There are democratic elections.

So I don’t know what ure talking about.

Did US invade Venezuela? No cos they are a democratic state and have their constitution. They are also not a security threat.

Ukraine has don’t nothing wrong to Russia. Russia has acted on rumors and unfounded premature claims.

Yes they can take a position bt an invasion is very unnecessary at this point.

jaxxy:
P

Nobody said Democratic states are perfect just like Nigeria many against the government are persecuted and media attacked bt there are democratic laws to check these excesses now or later. There are democratic elections.

So I don’t know what ure talking about.

Did US invade Venezuela? No cos they are a democratic state and have their constitution. They are also not a security threat.

Ukraine has don’t nothing wrong to Russia. Russia has acted on rumors and unfounded premature claims.

Yes they can take a position bt an invasion is very unnecessary at this point.

You said"Ukraine has don’t nothing wrong to Russia. Russia has acted on rumors and unfounded premature claims."

I guess same way america attacked libya and lraq based on saddam weapon of mass destruction rumours and premature claims ??

House34:


You said"Ukraine has don’t nothing wrong to Russia. Russia has acted on rumors and unfounded premature claims."

I guess same way america attacked libya and lraq based on saddam weapon of mass destruction rumours and premature claims ??

Saddam invaded Kuwait and said he will attack the US many times claiming he has nukes till he was taught a lesson. He was a threat.

Saddam said he had nukes with his own mouth.

Ukraine has never said it will attack Russia. Never.

God is not dead

Help2020:

Because you have chosen to show how much you have lost every sense of humanity, nobody will ever patronize you,mark this day.

Techsupport:


spoken like a true conspiracy theorist. all fluff, no substance.

Just do what I told u bro

The US ambassador to the United Nations has said that African states cannot remain neutral on the war in Ukraine.

Speaking to the BBC, Linda Thomas-Greenfield noted that in the General Assembly vote two weeks ago to deplore the Russian invasion of Ukraine, 17 African countries - half of the world total - abstained and another eight did not vote at all.

The ambassador said there can be no neutral ground, and that this crisis was not simply a Cold War competition between the West and Russia.

So what defination of a sovenign state?

if usa have to impose decision on Africa countries.the word "cannot " make it so ugly and l hope africa will stop depending on aids and develop their countries.
china refuse to take a stand "Beijing asserts it won’t cave in to Washington’s pressure, which it considers “irresponsible” and “futile”.
Beijing maintains an “independent” stance on the Ukraine crisis, a spokesperson for China’s foreign ministry, Zhao Lijian, said during a press conference on Friday.

MansoryMX:


The West you say? Ukraine has not even joined NATO to start with. And I see nothing wrong if they choose to join. Wasn’t Russia a member of NATO? Lemme guess! You didn’t know this part? Russia was a member of NATO even when Ukraine wasn’t thinking of joining. But because of their atrocities on former USSR small nations like Georgia, Ukraine and the rest! They got kicked out of NATO in April 2014. A lot of you don’t know what’s really happening. Una just dey jump into conclusions up and down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzgPJeYZaOU