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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by lexy2014: 12:30pm On Mar 13, 2022
chameleon98:


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-12/russian-official-warns-finland-sweden-against-joining-nato

A few things here:

1. Russia doesn't have the right to tell any country whether they can join NATO or not.

2. Putin is showing that he is paranoid by threatening everyone just because they want to join NATO.

3. Are these smaller countries not arming themselves? Why wait for protection from NATO?

4. If Ukraine was busy arming itself all this while instead of waiting for NATO protection, it would have been able to put up a better fight
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Princedapace(m): 12:34pm On Mar 13, 2022
neuf:


Is Igbo signatory to the UN charter?

is igbo a recognizable sovereign country?

like seriously I'm intrigued to know what you guys use to reason because I'm not so sure it's the brain

But that same UN said people are entitled to seek for self determination. That same UN. That same UN. It didnt say u must be signitary to it before u can seek for self determination.

Do countries fall from sky? They were created from war, self determination, etc. Even Nigeria was created as a result of British conquest of the geographical location.

So, I have schooled u bro. U actually thought u were talking to a mentally weak person. Come, I am ready to burn 5k airtime on this converation, let me school u to let u know that ur line of defence is weak. Self determination is not a crime in that same UN you mentioned grin

I want u to defend these points I mentioned, dont insult. U know, people without strong points always descend to insulting their opponent.
I just told u that in the global politics, there are super powers and super powers have allies and subjects.
Nigeria is a subject to the British empire. Britan is a super power. There are unwritten constittion that guide the world of global politcs among super powers. One of such unwritten laws is that an opponent super power should not site military expansion close to their opponent.

So, Russia and China are super powers and have opponents from the west super powers headed by the USA. On that list are USA, France, Britain and they have allies such as Japan, Canada, etc.
If Russia or China who are opponent of USA decides to station military presence in Mexico for instance, that is Russia looking for USA trouble and USA will act and break laws to defend her interest. Did u get it now?
U arent talking with a novice.

While self determination is allowed in UN, Nigeria protects her interest and refused the Igbos their desire for self determination. Some countries allowed self determination to be judged by public referedum, while some settled it via war. So, can u see?
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by greymiles: 12:37pm On Mar 13, 2022
checkolatunji:


Lolzzz. India News? Na Pro-Russia, what do you expect. grin
It’s not pro Russia or pro NATO, just watch some of their news
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by saintadeola: 12:53pm On Mar 13, 2022
U are funny,who knows,if putin is bound to make a new world,when d world will be drag into nuclear war zone,disaster is looming gradually,war has not started,by the time everybody started lunching what he has,u will understand that war has not started now,civilization will be on d verge of doom
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Johel(m): 1:03pm On Mar 13, 2022
TheArmourBearer:
bros, if they made deficult for you to travel to London, travel to Russia na or even Iran is there for you to travel to.afterall they are ur preferred country. Y traveling to the west u hate so much?? I don't understand o


U lack understanding...Happy Sunday.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by excel101(m): 1:04pm On Mar 13, 2022
Hammyaladin:
Abeg o! He should park one side.


I'm begging to dislike him already!


Who the Bleep invades all countries and threatens to end the world?!

The world is tired of terrorist, dictators etc.


America might be bad, but I've come to realise that it's better than Russia, iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Dubai, chaina etc!


#Stopthewar
That is it. They're a better Devil among the lots.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by pansophist(m): 1:08pm On Mar 13, 2022
Thisis2raw:
Russia needs to calm down, before they make them self enemy of the world

By sheer numbers, most of the world are in support of, not condemning or/at least, understands the Russians perspective. The world most populous countries didn't vote against Russia in the UN (eg China, Pakistan, India, whole Middle East, Africa and South America), totalling at least seven billion people. It's mostly the US and its vassals that are against Russia.

Sadly, they control the media and can suppress other perspectives, especially the Russian one. For example RT (Russian today) TV station have been banned in all of the west and I can't hear their perspective. How can this is be freedom of speech the west proud itself with? When you prevent your opponents from speaking, then it means one fears the truth.

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by excel101(m): 1:09pm On Mar 13, 2022
Bellerophon:


You are a very shallow minded individual I have since come to observe with not the slightest grasp of contextual issues and conversations! The North Atlantic part of NATO is a reflection of the ideological purpose of the establishment of the organization as a deterrence to communist threat from the East, do you know that as a counter measures to NATO, the Russians also assembled countries with collective ideologies like that and made THE WARSAW PACT/ TREATY!

Do not on the altar of religion sacrifice your common sense, please tell, if only one, a reason why and how “The West” which has become an overused phrase on here lately has influenced or created the situation in Europe as to warrant a justified Russian invasion! Don’t talk to me about the Cuban missile crisis and all that crap when the political and social realities are entirely different hence no grounds for an analogous comparison! I can tell you are most probably Northerner and Muslim as your disdain and hatred again for “The west” is only a subtle attempt at masking your sympathy with terrorist and the macabre killings their evil cause
For you to insult "SarkiYakin" before passing this info, mean you are empty and foolish with your knowledge.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by WHITELIGHTER: 1:12pm On Mar 13, 2022
greymiles:

Stop reading controlled news
Listen to news like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XioN0Irg74

Shuuuutup....this one u post is uncontrolled? Not even smart of you
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by excel101(m): 1:13pm On Mar 13, 2022
pansophist:


By sheer numbers, most of the world are in support of, not condemning or/at least, understands the Russians perspective. The world most populous countries didn't vote against Russia in the UN (eg China, Pakistan, India, whole Middle East, Africa and South America), totalling at least seven billion people. It's mostly the US and its vassals that are against Russia.

Sadly, they control the media and can suppress other perspectives, especially the Russian one. For example RT (Russian today) TV station have been banned in all of the west and I can't hear their perspective. How can this is be freedom of speech the west proud itself with? When you prevent your opponents from speaking, then it means one fears the truth.
As a super power, there would have been other better ways Russia could have gone about this, other than the invasion of Ukraine.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by greymiles: 1:15pm On Mar 13, 2022
WHITELIGHTER:


Shuuuutup....this one u post is uncontrolled? Not even smart of you
Issorait smart guy
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by checkolatunji: 1:18pm On Mar 13, 2022
greymiles:

It’s not pro Russia or pro NATO, just watch some of their news

All na propaganda sha.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by excel101(m): 1:20pm On Mar 13, 2022
splashbaby:
The Americans and NATO are wise...you crippled a country with sanctions and says you don't want direct confrontation with a nuclear power...what's that? This is more than declaration of war and Putin is still struggling with a comedian. NATO won't fight a war in Ukraine, they want it in Russia and they have already deployed 30% of their arsenal to conquer Ukraine without success. Their nuclear warhead will be detonated in Russia.
It mean that they're more powerful the the Russians. Let Russia do same to them.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by pansophist(m): 1:23pm On Mar 13, 2022
SarkinYarki:
The solution to all this is to allow Russia join NATO but then the aim of NATO will be defeated

That's the point.

Nato was created to slaughter Russia, without Russia, there will be no point for Nato. The west fear and envies russia. Its a fat cow that must be slaughtered, to strengthen western hegemony. Russia is so huge, if you divide the whole Africa into two, russia is bigger than half of it. The whole 30 EU countries, USA, South Korea and Japan will fit inside Russia and there is still space left.

Now imagine all the resources buried underneath their vast territories. They can't just accept that it's not under their control. If common tiny Nigeria have all its natural resources and oil controlled by western powers, what more Russia? This war is bigger than most people think, and because they listen to only western side, they are misinformed and reach wrong judgement.

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by pansophist(m): 1:24pm On Mar 13, 2022
excel101:
As a super power, there would have been other better ways Russia could have gone about this, other than the invasion of Ukraine.

Examples?
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by excel101(m): 1:29pm On Mar 13, 2022
pansophist:


Examples?
By killing persons like you and your generation.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by mcquin(m): 1:34pm On Mar 13, 2022
Johel:



"He who fights for truth is hated most bruh"....Putin knows what he's doing...The world is full of shit!!...can't you see!...This whole thing will bring about some kind of change...it will look all rough now,but in the end,there will be a global reform...These EU,UK,US are deceivers,liars,they are cunning,they made things so bleeped up in the world ....they made it so difficult to travel from even Naija to London.
Hahaha. Na by force to go London? If the West don't you travelling to their countries, Russia is there.
Now I know why many of una dey vex for US and co.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Nobody: 1:42pm On Mar 13, 2022
neuf:


go and read what you wrote in the comment I replied to about how the US control NATO and the organisation does what the US says.

So now you have a little understanding of how the Organisation works, good for you

Lol. The US controls NATO. Is that an argument for debate? NATO is 70% to 80% US. That was why when Trump threatened to pull out of NATO, many NATO countries were scared.

And are you arguing that NATO doesn't do what the US says? Almost all the wars that Nato has been involved in was because the US said "let's go fight" (invasion of Afghanistan, Invasion of Libya, Bosnia war, Croatia war). That doesn't mean other NATO members have no say in NATO

The point I tried to made was that if the US agrees for Russia to join Nato today, Russia will join Nato. It may take years for the US to convince other NATO members of the need for Russia to join Nato, but at the end of the day, Russia will join Nato.

If the reverse is the case, that is most NATO countries want Russia to join Nato and the US says no, it will never work. That is what it means to control an organization.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by 1stGenAmerican(f): 1:47pm On Mar 13, 2022
anonymous1759:


That’s the same thing the USA is doing o. America will not allow Cuba to join forces with Russia because they share a boarder. The same thing America is scared of is the same thing Russia is equally scared of . embarassed Those countries are too close to Russia .

Have you never looked at a map? Cuba is an island surrounded by water so how does it share a border with America?

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Nobody: 1:48pm On Mar 13, 2022
Trentee4eva:

Ukrainians are now paying the price for Zelenskyy’s decision. Russia has been using conventional weapons in Ukraine but with NATO, it's going to be nuclear weapons and they have more than 6000 of it. I guess you haven't heard of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan

Is the price greater than the price Russians are paying? Their economy is in shatters. Their currency is now useless. Their stock exchange market has been closed for weeks (the longest in Russia history) grin. Not to talk of the casualties the Russians are suffering in Ukraine. I thought some of you said kyiv will fall to Russia in one week? grin grin grin



Lol. Do you know that NATO has more nuclear weapons than Russia? Some of you talk as if only Russia owns nuclear weapons. Lol. Let him use nuclear weapons if Russia will not be levelled to the ground.



And yes, I have heard of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and it was courtesy of the US, the only country to have used a nuclear weapon in war. Let Russia try it if it will not end in disaster for them. grin
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by NOwazobia: 2:22pm On Mar 13, 2022
Every country is now increasing their military budget because of Russia, some even more than the propose NATO percentage, and Russia still thinks he attacked Ukraine to secure Russia.

Sit down look na dog name.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by gistmega: 2:24pm On Mar 13, 2022
haha are you tired of living?
jobasih:
Make the world just end sef
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Alamkir: 2:34pm On Mar 13, 2022
Reference:


This is just plain lies.
NATO is entirely a defensive minded organisation.
The seeds of which were sown when the then Russia started a land grab after the collapse of Nazi Germany.
So it was formed because of Russia land grab. We saying d same thing
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by IvarDboneless: 2:41pm On Mar 13, 2022
greymiles:

Stop reading controlled news
Listen to news like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XioN0Irg74
You dey mind these illiterates way no dey think logically....always emotional with the band wagon...anywhere belle face..
See raw news..
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Tomilola360: 2:43pm On Mar 13, 2022
SarkinYarki:
The solution to all this is to allow Russia join NATO but then the aim of NATO will be defeated

grin
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by kingjizz: 2:47pm On Mar 13, 2022
SweetSauce:

And you had to bring his mom into this.
Shows you don't have respect for yours.
If he replies by insulting you, na tears go full ur replies.


Go and borrow senes ewu
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by kingjizz: 2:48pm On Mar 13, 2022
SweetSauce:

And you had to bring his mom into this.
Shows you don't have respect for yours.
If he replies by insulting you, na tears go full ur replies.

You have respect for yours,but you slapped your mum yesterday
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by kingjizz: 2:49pm On Mar 13, 2022
Sadr:


You're very rude. Even if you don't have regard for your own mother, that doesn't mean you should go around insulting others. Neither of the opinions for and against any international events here are consequential so any insult is needless and childish.

You are very rude by insulting and slapping your mum yesterday
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by knowhowk: 3:00pm On Mar 13, 2022
RUSSIA end is Near ,What the Hell is all these Rubbish ,Why Given orders to Independent Nations ..
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by kingjizz: 3:01pm On Mar 13, 2022
Shadysen:
why the insult?

Ezi

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