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Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by TempleHouse: 8:31pm On Mar 13, 2022
Well, This is a spiritual matter and NOT a business policy.

If you borrow a loan to finance your Marwa ot Okada business with the aims of generating profits and paying back,, You ain’t stupid,I suppose

We don’t have to do God for everything because He has given us a wisdom and it’s how you discern your own life that matters !
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by Goldbw122(m): 8:35pm On Mar 13, 2022
Wisdom will not kill this man
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by BluntTheApostle(m): 8:37pm On Mar 13, 2022
2mercy:


https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2022/03/11/wealthy-people-with-n1bn-worth-but-owing-banks-n10bn-are-stupid-oyedepo/

This man is always on about money, money, money.

He worships money so much. Always analyzing it like an economist.

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Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by Lucas4903: 8:38pm On Mar 13, 2022
FalseProphet1:
Daddy Oyedepo is absolutely right.

If you subtract all the loans dangote is owing various banks both locally and international from his networth, dangote won't even make it to 1st 100 richest people in Africa.

This I have seen.

Because your pastors say so doesn’t mean it’s right. That’s business. Assets and equity and all that. Yet Dangote is making a difference and touching lives. U are concerned about his business equity which will take care of itself.

Where is religion actually going to lead Africans I just don’t know.

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Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by MissionaryArchi(m): 8:43pm On Mar 13, 2022
tempest01:
This isn't a wise take from Pst Oyedepo.

In order to create wealth, you need capital.

In his area of operation there is a multitude who directly and indirectly contribute to their capital. Ordinary business people don't have that.

They need to source for capital with debt. As long as their debt to equity ratio is kept healthy, you can take that risk, take that debt and invest wisely .

Those that are not wise are those with no investments and living on stolen money still taking on Loans.

Ideally you should take loans to expand on an already working enterprise that can service the loan.

That is the point he's making. Why borrow to buy a car or build a house you want to boast with.
Most of our big politicians and supposed Rich men borrow to improve their financial status not an already working business
Please note nobody is contributing to finance Living Faith Church, every congregant is investing into the value they are getting.
If you have sat down to listen to the teachings of Bishop David Oyedepo, you surely see there's great value and people are not contributing but investing which they fully get their returns back
The word here is value. How many of our rich men brings value to the table. Only few

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Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by Elidrisy20: 8:43pm On Mar 13, 2022
Why are you beating around the bush, just say FG is stupid
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by MartinsD12(m): 8:43pm On Mar 13, 2022
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by MissionaryArchi(m): 8:47pm On Mar 13, 2022
Lucas4903:


Because your pastors say so doesn’t mean it’s right. That’s business. Assets and equity and all that. Yet Dangote is making a difference and touching lives. U are concerned about his business equity which will take care of itself.

Where is religion actually going to lead Africans I just don’t know.
In Winners' Chapel we don't talk religion, we teach you principles for getting kingdom wealth and godly skills to succeed in life.
Dangote is touching lives by selling his value but Bishop David Oyedepo is changing lives by winning souls... Get the difference, you may not understand this until you long for it
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by Basicend: 8:49pm On Mar 13, 2022
Truth.
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by Amotolongbo(f): 8:51pm On Mar 13, 2022
skj1377:
Am not poor Oga. Businesses can go both ways
Is there anything that can’t go both ways?
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by huptin(m): 8:52pm On Mar 13, 2022
DamnnNiggarr:
I'm not too good in economics but with the knowledge I got in eco101, 102, I can unequivocally tell you that Printing more money doesn’t increase economic output – it only increases the amount of cash circulating in the economy. If more money is printed, consumers are able to demand more goods, but if firms have still the same amount of goods, they will respond by putting up prices. In a simplified model, printing money will just cause inflation.

*Suppose an economy produces $10 million worth of goods; e.g. 1 million books at $10 each. At this time the money supply will be $10 million.

*If the government doubled the money supply, we would still have 1 million books, but people have more money. Demand for books would rise, and in response to higher demand, firms would push up prices.

*The most likely scenario is that if the money supply were doubled, we would have 1 million books sold at $20. The economy is now worth $20 million rather than $10 million. But, the number of goods is exactly the same.

*We can say that the increase in GDP is a money illusion. – True you have more money, but if everything is more expensive, you are not any better off.

*In this simple model, printing more money has made goods more expensive, but hasn’t changed the quantity of goods.

Not if you are the owner of the currency that all other currencies are benchmarked against. Think about this, the dollars is the main currency that every other currency is benchmarked against.

So the value of other currencies is benchmarked against the dollars. If the US prints more currency, it calls it debt, because currency printing is actually not a good way of generating revenue, but does the US ever pay back the currency it prints, No almost never and it doesn't have to, it is his own currency, because your own currency is benchmarked against the dollars even the recklessness of the US will affect you.

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Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by MissionaryArchi(m): 8:53pm On Mar 13, 2022
BluntTheApostle:


This man is always on about money, money, money.

He worships money so much. Always analyzing it like an economist.
That is because it's only what news carry about.
I have never seen any Pastor who is so passionate about winning souls every day of his life. He has/is my motivation is kingdom outreach. I have being a very religious Christian seeking for what I can get from God until came in contact with this man and I began to see my greatest work as a born again Christian is winning souls for God and that is our destiny every other thing na jara

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Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by huptin(m): 8:55pm On Mar 13, 2022
DEMZEE:


ONLY A FOOL WONT UNDERSTAND THAT THE CURRENT MODERN MONETARY SYSTEM IS RUN ON DEBT

PAPER MONEY (CURRENCY) IS BACKED BY DEBT

THEY PRINT PAPER MONEY FROM NOTHING

THERE'S GOOD AND BAD DEBTy

ECONOMICS 001 FOR FVCKS SAKE

You are correct, but if your currency happens to be the currency every other currency is benchmarked against, you can actually rig the system, because you have both the knife and the yam, has the US been doing this? Ask yourself.

If Nigeria borrows dollars from the US it has to pay back at a certain period but if the US asks his own central bank to simply print more dollars and count it as debt for it, does the US have to pay back, at what interest? Over what period?
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by TruthinAction: 8:55pm On Mar 13, 2022
True talk. And most of them hardly pay back loans they collect.
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by CoronaVirusPro: 8:58pm On Mar 13, 2022
Pastors be deceiving their gullible followers!

Which business sense does Oyedepo have to have arrived at this conclusion? Brainwashing?
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by Eriokanmi: 9:00pm On Mar 13, 2022
Flaxxo01:

That's a very smart man ooo and he flex the money well
Am telling you. He enjoyed it till death. But his family are now homeless, sad!
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by Ochelyko1: 9:00pm On Mar 13, 2022
Tonytonex:
in other way, you mean you are wiser and more righteous than Oyedepo?

Wisdom and Righteousness comes from God. When u say wiser are u referring to the wisdom of men? Or God?

I rather have wisdom from God and not from men.

Oyedepo might be a Father by age but a Baby spiritually. Because He is not obedience to the word of God and as such that has made him to be a baby spiritually.

In the sight of God ur age doesn't count. But ur spirit man is what counts.

Oyedepo might be ur papa but God knows he has sold his soul to the spirit of Mammon. And I don't need to educate u on that what the Bible say about one loving Mammon and hating God or loving God and hating Mammon for you can't love and serve both.

So with the above word choose by urself which one is Oyedepo serving and loving God? Or Mammon?
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by InvertedHammer: 9:00pm On Mar 13, 2022
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Scratching my head on the meaning of "networth"

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Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by huptin(m): 9:00pm On Mar 13, 2022
Johnboom:
You don't understand simple Economics, Nigeria is the owner of Naira, how come they don't print it , convert it to Dollar and pay her debit.

Simply because Nigeria's naira is not the benchmark for international trade, at the international level, naira is worthless if not tied to the dollars.

But this is not the case with the US, the dollar is the currency for international business. This is where the US become smart, if his revenue is not able to meet up with its expenses, the US will simply ask it's central bank to print more dollars and count it as debt.

In actual fact, the US is simply borrowing itself money, but does it ever pay back? At what rate? Over what period?

But if Nigeria borrows the same money, Nigeria has to pay back at the rate and tenor decided by the same US.

You see the reason why I said the whole monetary system is rigged?

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Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by SSpeter(m): 9:02pm On Mar 13, 2022
DamnnNiggarr:
shocked

Just like USA with a GDP worth of $24 trillion(2021 estimate) but has a gross external debt of over $21 trillion.

Imagine a country that has annual expenditure of $7 trillion but with annual revenue of $3.4 trillion.

If not that Nigeria's government is not transparent, Nigeria would've been one of the richest country in the world with an annual expenditure of $30 billion and annual revenue of over $50 billion.


I'm not too good in economics but with the knowledge I got in eco101, 102, I can unequivocally tell you that Printing more money doesn’t increase economic output – it only increases the amount of cash circulating in the economy. If more money is printed, consumers are able to demand more goods, but if firms have still the same amount of goods, they will respond by putting up prices. In a simplified model, printing money will just cause inflation.

*Suppose an economy produces $10 million worth of goods; e.g. 1 million books at $10 each. At this time the money supply will be $10 million.

*If the government doubled the money supply, we would still have 1 million books, but people have more money. Demand for books would rise, and in response to higher demand, firms would push up prices.

*The most likely scenario is that if the money supply were doubled, we would have 1 million books sold at $20. The economy is now worth $20 million rather than $10 million. But, the number of goods is exactly the same.

*We can say that the increase in GDP is a money illusion. – True you have more money, but if everything is more expensive, you are not any better off.

*In this simple model, printing more money has made goods more expensive, but hasn’t changed the quantity of goods.

So Mr huptin, why can't Nigeria just print ₦aira to tackle Nigeria's economic mess? Nah! It doesn't work that way.
If only 20 bags of rice is produced in your location, assuming only only 5 people are able to purchase a bag at say 20k out of 100 person's due to lack of money and the government decides to print more money to be in circulation in the economy, and about 50 person's now have cash, now what will happen is that, more people now have cash and it's still 20 bags of rice that is being produced which will lead to high demand for a bag of rice.
Do you know what the producers will do? They will respond by doubling the price of a bag of rice.
I hope it's clear now.
Brother, the guy you quoted was trying to explain something to you, but you were eager to display your rudimentary economics skills. The US debt is in USD. Their central bank don't function like ours that is why theirs is a reserve bank. The US can print and repay their debts. When the govt buys Tbills from you, at maturity, they can choose to either request for more TBills to pay the matured ones or print more money if there isn't enough cash in the system. That is why they tell you that a government can never default in its debt in its currency....cos it has the power to print notes.

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Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by DEMZEE(m): 9:02pm On Mar 13, 2022
huptin:


You are correct, but if your currency happens to be the currency every other currency is benchmarked against, you can actually rig the system, because you have both the knife and the yam, has the US been doing this? Ask yourself.

If Nigeria borrows dollars from the US it has to pay back at a certain period but if the US asks his own central bank to simply print more dollars and count it as debt for it, does the US have to pay back, at what interest? Over what period?

GOVERNMENTS AND THE CENTRAL BANKERS ARE IN BED WITH EACH OTHER.

THE AIM IS NOT TO PAY OFF THE DEBT BUT TO CONTROL A NATION'S RESOURCES AND ITS CITIZENS PURCHASING POWER

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Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by Strongbest(m): 9:03pm On Mar 13, 2022
Basheer22:


Oyedepo built his wealth from tithes and offerings of church members. He's a smart person 7 who knows what to invest in and then uses the funds donated to a registered charity to invest in his own name. He tried it in the UK and was almost jailed. He was banned from the UK for a while because of this.


Hahaha. The audacity though. You see what I am saying? You heard they said, unfortunately people of this generation are very gullible and like to hate on people that are way ahead and more than them in all ramifications.

Back to your story, it's a PURE BIG LIE! GOSH!

Look man, desist from carrying fake news about anyone, it doesn't get you far in life. It's a big limitation to destiny.
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by Sleekfingers: 9:03pm On Mar 13, 2022
Oga, oyedepo olori pipa and the tithes collector. Na money dem dey take find money......
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by huptin(m): 9:03pm On Mar 13, 2022
DamnnNiggarr:
shocked

Just like USA with a GDP worth of $24 trillion(2021 estimate) but has a gross external debt of over $21 trillion.

Imagine a country that has annual expenditure of $7 trillion but with annual revenue of $3.4 trillion.

If not that Nigeria's government is not transparent, Nigeria would've been one of the richest country in the world with an annual expenditure of $30 billion and annual revenue of over $50 billion.


I'm not too good in economics but with the knowledge I got in eco101, 102, I can unequivocally tell you that Printing more money doesn’t increase economic output – it only increases the amount of cash circulating in the economy. If more money is printed, consumers are able to demand more goods, but if firms have still the same amount of goods, they will respond by putting up prices. In a simplified model, printing money will just cause inflation.

*Suppose an economy produces $10 million worth of goods; e.g. 1 million books at $10 each. At this time the money supply will be $10 million.

*If the government doubled the money supply, we would still have 1 million books, but people have more money. Demand for books would rise, and in response to higher demand, firms would push up prices.

*The most likely scenario is that if the money supply were doubled, we would have 1 million books sold at $20. The economy is now worth $20 million rather than $10 million. But, the number of goods is exactly the same.

*We can say that the increase in GDP is a money illusion. – True you have more money, but if everything is more expensive, you are not any better off.

*In this simple model, printing more money has made goods more expensive, but hasn’t changed the quantity of goods.

So Mr huptin, why can't Nigeria just print ₦aira to tackle Nigeria's economic mess? Nah! It doesn't work that way.
If only 20 bags of rice is produced in your location, assuming only only 5 people are able to purchase a bag at say 20k out of 100 person's due to lack of money and the government decides to print more money to be in circulation in the economy, and about 50 person's now have cash, now what will happen is that, more people now have cash and it's still 20 bags of rice that is being produced which will lead to high demand for a bag of rice.
Do you know what the producers will do? They will respond by doubling the price of a bag of rice.
I hope it's clear now.

Agreed Nigeria can not do so simply because Naira is not the benchmark currency for international trade! What about the US, you think they can't do it? They own the yam and the knife! They can print their currency to do whatever they want to do with it, Afterall every other currency is tied to it! It's a rigged system.

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Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by Ambassadors: 9:03pm On Mar 13, 2022
If it's easy to get people gift and offering to finance your project what are you waiting for? Talk is cheap indeed
Amotolongbo:
Hmmm

Now I understand the difference between a man who borrowed loans from bank to finance his project and another one who depends on other people’s gift and offering to finance his project.
one is a risk taker while the other is an opportunist

Dangote’s worth is $14billion while the cost of Dangote’s refinery is about $19billion.
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by huptin(m): 9:05pm On Mar 13, 2022
SSpeter:
Brother, the guy you quoted was trying to explain something to you, but you were eager to display your basic economic skills. The US debt is in USD. Their central bank don't function like ours that is why theirs is a reserve bank. The US can print and repay their debts. When the govt buys Tbills from you, at maturity, they can choose to either request for more TBills to pay the matured ones or print more money if there isn't enough cash in the system. That is why they tell you that a government can never default in its debt in its currency....cos it has the power to print notes.

Thank you sooo much!
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by einsteine(m): 9:05pm On Mar 13, 2022
DamnnNiggarr:
shocked

Just like USA with a GDP worth of $24 trillion(2021 estimate) but has a gross external debt of over $21 trillion.

Imagine a country that has annual expenditure of $7 trillion but with annual revenue of $3.4 trillion.

If not that Nigeria's government is not transparent, Nigeria would've been one of the richest country in the world with an annual expenditure of $30 billion and annual revenue of over $50 billion.


I'm not too good in economics but with the knowledge I got in eco101, 102, I can unequivocally tell you that Printing more money doesn’t increase economic output – it only increases the amount of cash circulating in the economy. If more money is printed, consumers are able to demand more goods, but if firms have still the same amount of goods, they will respond by putting up prices. In a simplified model, printing money will just cause inflation.

*Suppose an economy produces $10 million worth of goods; e.g. 1 million books at $10 each. At this time the money supply will be $10 million.

*If the government doubled the money supply, we would still have 1 million books, but people have more money. Demand for books would rise, and in response to higher demand, firms would push up prices.

*The most likely scenario is that if the money supply were doubled, we would have 1 million books sold at $20. The economy is now worth $20 million rather than $10 million. But, the number of goods is exactly the same.

*We can say that the increase in GDP is a money illusion. – True you have more money, but if everything is more expensive, you are not any better off.

*In this simple model, printing more money has made goods more expensive, but hasn’t changed the quantity of goods.

So Mr huptin, why can't Nigeria just print ₦aira to tackle Nigeria's economic mess? Nah! It doesn't work that way.
If only 20 bags of rice is produced in your location, assuming only only 5 people are able to purchase a bag at say 20k out of 100 person's due to lack of money and the government decides to print more money to be in circulation in the economy, and about 50 person's now have cash, now what will happen is that, more people now have cash and it's still 20 bags of rice that is being produced which will lead to high demand for a bag of rice.
Do you know what the producers will do? They will respond by doubling the price of a bag of rice.
I hope it's clear now.


All these don't apply to the US because unlike other countries of the world, their currency is the global reserve currency. This allows them export their inflation. The debts they owe (including the printing of currency) would not have to be paid by actual resources. This is unlike the debt owed by Nigeria for which the resources of the country (crude oil et Al) must be sold to earn Forex to pay back the loan.

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Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by zoedew: 9:05pm On Mar 13, 2022
The man who waxed “e r’oju ole e o mu” while supposedly preaching will need to listen to this and ensure he is free from Wema Bank. It should not be a citadel of indebtedness.
Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by SSpeter(m): 9:05pm On Mar 13, 2022
huptin:


You are correct, but if your currency happens to be the currency every other currency is benchmarked against, you can actually rig the system, because you have both the knife and the yam, has the US been doing this? Ask yourself.

If Nigeria borrows dollars from the US it has to pay back at a certain period but if the US asks his own central bank to simply print more dollars and count it as debt for it, does the US have to pay back, at what interest? Over what period?
The people you are trying to educate have basic economics knowledge. Hence, do not stress yourself much. They are probably students...

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Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by Nobody: 9:05pm On Mar 13, 2022
Until you work with finance houses/banks as a loan/debt recovery specialist or insolvency practitioner,you won’t understand what he is saying.

Our eye dey see something and that’s why social media riches nor dey freak or tension us again.

All na marketing and PR strategy. Those wen really get the money nor dey make noise.

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Re: Oyedepo: Wealthy People With ₦1bn Worth, But Owing Banks ₦10bn Are Stupid by DamnnNiggarr: 9:05pm On Mar 13, 2022
huptin:


Not if you are the owner of the currency that all other currencies are benchmarked against. Think about this, the dollars is the main currency that every other currency is benchmarked against.

So the value of other currencies is benchmarked against the dollars. If the US prints more currency, it calls it debt, because currency printing is actually not a good way of generating revenue, but does the US ever pay back the currency it prints, No almost never and it doesn't have to, it is his own currency, because your own currency is benchmarked against the dollars even the recklessness of the US will affect you.
that's the hypocrisy among the western countries, and
going by your assertion, Nigeria can print more ₦aira to tackle Nigeria's economic mess shocked but I don't think it works that way.
If only 20 bags of rice is produced in your location, assuming only only 5 people are able to purchase a bag at say 20k out of 100 persons due to lack of money and the government decides to print more money to be in circulation in the economy, and about 50 person's now have cash, now what will happen is that, more people now have cash and it's still the same 20 bags of rice that is being produced in your location (nothing changed, ie the quantity is being produced) which will lead to high demand for a bag of rice.
Do you know what the producers will do? They will respond by doubling the price of a bag of rice.
If USA prints more dollars, but still has the same economic output, it will lead to inflation.

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