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Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Nobody: 9:36pm On Mar 14, 2022
StaffofOrayan:


I know right!
What is USA's business with Cuba housing Russian missiles? I mean it's a sovereign country and what not
When Russia put missiles in Cuba,did USA invade Cuba and blow up Havana, did they? And no one is looking to put missiles in Ukraine - in fact, you may recall that Ukraine gave up its nukes in exchange for an agreement that both the US and Russia would guarantee Ukraine’s security.
So where is your b.s coming from?

NATO did not expand towards Russia at all.
Not one of those countries were invaded and added to NATO, as Russia is doing in Ukraine.

Those former Soviet Republics and Warsaw Pact members joined NATO voluntarily and moved towards Europe. And it’s not over.

Russia should ask itself “Why did all of our Warsaw Pact allies and three republics of the USSR join NATO”. They will not like the answer. They hated the Russian invasion and occupation of their countries and want no further part of Russia.

Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:36pm On Mar 14, 2022
Comradewhy:

You actually know nothing, who's Killing who?

Funny dude tell me how many Russian children or women that have died in Russia due to the war.


People like you hide under the bed once thiefs comes to your compound... Yet you want to refuse the comedian from begging.


Yet you want to claim Ukraine is winning.. Even USA citizens are crying for ukraine.

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Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Truvelisback(m): 9:37pm On Mar 14, 2022
Russia, pls, Recieve ur Lover back. Forgive her for Cheating on U with her Sugar Daddies(U.S and NATO) with their fake Love and Promises.

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Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:37pm On Mar 14, 2022
Comradewhy:

When Russia put missiles in Cuba,did USA invade Cuba and blow up Havana, did they? And no one is looking to put missiles in Ukraine - in fact, you may recall that Ukraine gave up its nukes in exchange for an agreement that both the US and Russia would guarantee Ukraine’s security.
So where is your b.s coming from?

NATO did not expand towards Russia at all.
Not one of those countries were invaded and added to NATO, as Russia is doing in Ukraine.

Those former Soviet Republics and Warsaw Pact members joined NATO voluntarily and moved towards Europe. And it’s not over.

Russia should ask itself “Why did all of our Warsaw Pact allies and three republics of the USSR join NATO”. They will not like the answer. They hated the Russian invasion and occupation of their countries and want no further part of Russia.




Yes they threatened to blow up Cuba and Russia withdrew.
Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Nobody: 9:38pm On Mar 14, 2022
Kingsnairaland:


Funny dude tell me how many Russian children or women that have died in Russia due to the war.


People like you hide under the bed once thiefs come to your compound...


Yet you want to claim Ukraine is winning.. Even USA citizens are crying for ukraine.
Who said Ukraine is winning?
I said you know nothing,you didn't even answer my question,will you allow your brother bully you and seize your house because he is stronger?

Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Nobody: 9:38pm On Mar 14, 2022
Kingsnairaland:



Yes they threatened to blow up Cuba and Russia withdrew.
Go and answer my question,I was referring to that guy.

Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:40pm On Mar 14, 2022
Comradewhy:

Who said Ukraine is winning?
I said you know nothing,you didn't even answer my question,will you allow your brother bully you and seize your house because he is stronger?

But I ask you will you abuse a thief who wants to steal from you.
Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Nobody: 9:41pm On Mar 14, 2022
Kingsnairaland:


But I ask you will you abuse a thief who wants to steal from you.
So you won't defend yourself?
Look how you admitted that Russia is a thief you are really ignorant and confused.

Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:51pm On Mar 14, 2022
Comradewhy:

So you won't defend yourself?
Look how you admitted that Russia is a thief you are really ignorant and confused.

Yes they are a thief in this case and they are much more than a thief.. Mind you USA is more than a thief they are probably the devil when they invade you you will confirm.

You are not wiser than Jesus who said once you calculate what you have and it is not enough to go to war with the stronger side quickly ask for peace.
Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:52pm On Mar 14, 2022
Comradewhy:

So you won't defend yourself?
Look how you admitted that Russia is a thief you are really ignorant and confused.

You are not wiser than Jesus who said once you calculate what you have and it is not enough to go to war with the stronger side quickly ask for peace.
Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Nobody: 9:55pm On Mar 14, 2022
Kingsnairaland:


You are not wiser than Jesus who said once you calculate what you have and it is not enough to go to war with the stronger side quickly ask for peace.
And what's my business with your Jesus?
so if a thief comes to your house and you have the ability to defend yourself you rather let him go scot-free hurting you than do?
You are not sensible.

Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:59pm On Mar 14, 2022
Comradewhy:

And what's my business with your Jesus?
so if a thief comes to your house and you have the ability to defend yourself you rather let him go scot-free hurting you than do?
You are not sensible.

Bye.
Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Nobody: 10:01pm On Mar 14, 2022

Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:04pm On Mar 14, 2022
Lol.
Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by StaffofOrayan(m): 10:07pm On Mar 14, 2022
Comradewhy:

When Russia put missiles in Cuba,did USA invade Cuba and blow up Havana, did they? And no one is looking to put missiles in Ukraine - in fact, you may recall that Ukraine gave up its nukes in exchange for an agreement that both the US and Russia would guarantee Ukraine’s security.
So where is your b.s coming from?

NATO did not expand towards Russia at all.
Not one of those countries were invaded and added to NATO, as Russia is doing in Ukraine.

Those former Soviet Republics and Warsaw Pact members joined NATO voluntarily and moved towards Europe. And it’s not over.

Russia should ask itself “Why did all of our Warsaw Pact allies and three republics of the USSR join NATO”. They will not like the answer. They hated the Russian invasion and occupation of their countries and want no further part of Russia.


We had the cold war when Russia attempted to edge closer,
NATO is basically America, infact NATO IS AMERICA!
Russia is a superpower and superpowers don't allow their enemies into their backyard, it's just how the world works,


The United States contributes the most to the alliance, funding around 70 per cent of Nato spending.
Nato contributions by country – which nations pay the most and least and ...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6745786/nato-contributions-country-who-pay-most-least-2-percent-gdp-target-trump/
Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Nobody: 10:09pm On Mar 14, 2022
StaffofOrayan:

We had the cold war when Russia attempted to edge closer,
NATO is basically America, infact NATO IS AMERICA!
Russia is a superpower and superpowers don't allow their enemies into their backyard, it's just how the world works,


The United States contributes the most to the alliance, funding around 70 per cent of Nato spending.
Nato contributions by country – which nations pay the most and least and ...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6745786/nato-contributions-country-who-pay-most-least-2-percent-gdp-target-trump/
Nice copy and paste,so you needed to search before you could reply me,stop being senseless, haha
Counter my point and stop foaming in the mouth.

Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by StaffofOrayan(m): 10:15pm On Mar 14, 2022
Comradewhy:

Nice copy and paste,so you needed to search before you could reply me,stop being senseless, haha
Counter my point and stop foaming in the mouth.

You have no point!
Russia said no American expansion in Eastern Europe, that is all there is to it,
Nothing more nothing less,
And the lesson with Ukraine is.....If you open the door for the enemy, you get spanked

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Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Nobody: 10:17pm On Mar 14, 2022
StaffofOrayan:


You have no point!
Russia said no American expansion in Eastern Europe, that is all there is to it,
Nothing more nothing less,
And the lesson with Ukraine is.....If you open the door for the enemy, you get spanked
Defend yourself where I gave you reasons why Russia have no business with Ukraine or keep shut.

Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by yyba: 10:20pm On Mar 14, 2022
Hamziyah:
Russia! E je ebure o. At this juncture, Russian troops need to ceasefire since Ukraine is willing to retrace her steps and right her wrongs. That's the price they have to pay for sharing border with a world powerful nation.
why will they retrace their steps after all they are winning the war 100% on media

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Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by StaffofOrayan(m): 10:21pm On Mar 14, 2022
Comradewhy:

Defend yourself where I gave you reasons why Russia have no business with Ukraine or keep shut.


Defend myself?
The war is already over....I mean the spanking!

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Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Nobody: 10:22pm On Mar 14, 2022
StaffofOrayan:



Defend myself?
The war is already over....I mean the spanking!

Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by yyba: 10:26pm On Mar 14, 2022
Comradewhy:

And what is Russia business with Ukraine wanting to Join NATO and have a base at it's house?
and what business those USA has with CUBA when they oppose CUBA joining NATO ? Isn't CUBA a country on it on ? Why the US has to invade CUBA just because they want to join NATO ?
Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by StaffofOrayan(m): 10:27pm On Mar 14, 2022
Comradewhy:



You were the one creating different threads on how Russia was losing right?
kikikikikiki

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Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Nobody: 10:28pm On Mar 14, 2022
StaffofOrayan:



You were the one creating different threads on how Russia was losing right?
kikikikikiki

Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Bobloco: 10:37pm On Mar 14, 2022
Ghost of kyiv
Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by yyba: 10:40pm On Mar 14, 2022
Oshodipikin:
NATO IS AVOIDING WAR WITH RUSSIA FOR YOUR SAKE.
NATO's decision to not close the sky over Ukraine is correct. A shooting war between Russia and NATO should be avoided as much as possible and the way the US has been evading that confrontation is simply the right thing to do.If you think it is cowardice, it is because you don't know and this post will brief you.
Let me set it out in a very brief way.
There are three types of wars:
1. Conventional war - which is fought according to the rules of war: Don't kill civilians and children, don't hit civilian infrastructure, don't shoot surrendering enemy soldiers and PoWs, etc.
2. Total war - which Russia seems to be fighting in Ukraine right now and which it fought against Chechnya in Grozny. In a total war, you just kill everybody you see and destroy everything on your way.
3. Nuclear war.
On a normal day, Russia will fall quickly of NATO engages it in a conventional or a total war and Putin has admitted that much in a speech recently. There is no contest in that. NATO's firepower is extensive and its generals are top level.
However, the mismatch will force Russia to quickly resort to 'final-solution' tactics while it can - it will launch its arsenal of nuclear weapons. Lets be quickly reminded that since the 1970s, both the West and Russia have thousands of nuclear tipped missiles already programmed to hit targets in all major cities on each other's soil. With just the press of a button, those missiles will fly out and head for their targets.
But there are difficulties. Both sides have watchmen that are not sleeping. Every inch of Russian territory is under a 24/7 scan for missile launch by the West, using flare and heat detection satellites. Russia has the same system.
The moment a rocket motor ignites (most missiles are powered by rocket motors. Cruise missiles use air-breathing jet engines - pretty much the same used by aeroplanes, but they could be ramjets or jets with afterburners. Cruise missiles are usually called precision guided weapons), they know in the West. These missile scouts will start to track the missile or missiles and note their number, velocity and heading. They have about 10 minutes to confirm and reconfirm that missiles are being launched against the West. In this case they will mostly be ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles). Well, despite the heavy name, they are actually simple orbital rockets that can get into orbit and then re-enter the earth at the appropriate location - above their targets. At this point, they will release their thermonuclear warheads or bombs (all modern nuclear bombs carry thermonuclear warheads, that is, warheads that uses a small hydrogen bomb to initiate a chain reaction in its main fission bomb of Plutonium or Uranium). These warheads are shaped like cones and they are about 1.2m in height with a base diameter of about 800mm. The real active ingredient, Uranium or Plutonium inside the conical device is not bigger than a football but they are packed with the horrendous power of creation itself, the power of the nucleus of an atom called the Strong Force.
Two things will then happen in line with strictly established procedures it call it Battle Order.
Once a missile attack is detected, the US will immediately move it's president, his family, Pentagon chiefs and a few citizens into a bunker that is about 2 kilometers below the ground and under a mountain. It is suspended upon springs so it can withstand tectonic forces from a nuclear blast on the surface. The bunker contains provisions for two years to sustain the occupants. (I have seen the image somewhere about 25 years ago in maybe Times Magazine). Reporters taken there were blindfolded and flown for hours so they will not have a clear sense of direction. The location is totally secret but it is suspected that it is Nevada. It was not dug out directly but a lateral tunnel was created several miles away to this subterranean site.
1. The West will launch countermeasures at these warheads. (Usually, they will be 13 to 17 on each ICBM and at this stage, they are in their terminal altitude in space). This is the threat level the American THAAD anti-missile system is designed to contain. It will fly into space and try to steer kill vehicles into those warheads and of course, the success rate will understandably only be partial. Some will end up successfully re-entering the earth and dive (under zero power) for their targets. At this point, the Patriot system will come into action and try to swat the warheads. The Patriot complex deals with missiles within the atmosphere.
2. Simultaneously NATO will give orders for its own missile launches and within minutes, you will see missiles rise from silos and from submarines heading East to attack preset targets. B-52s ('Stratofortress'), B1, ('Spirit') and B2 ('Bones') -all long range bombers will take off from the US, Germany and probably Japan armed with hydrogen and Plutonium bombs and head for Russia. There are also about 1,500 nuclear weapons on each side that are currently in the field, mingled with conventional weapons but known to commanders. Those are probably the most dangerous of all these arsenal of nuclear weapons because they are already and permanently dispersed in the field. All - everything will be launched within just about 30 minutes in this make or break final combat.
Everything described above from the moment one side launches its nuclear weapons will not take more than 45 to 60 minutes and it is all over. If the attack takes place at night, right here in Nigeria, if you look northwest towards Europe or east northwest towards the United States, or northeast towards Russia, you will actually see a dull glow in your night sky though you won't hear the thunder of the explosions.
The next three days or even a week will be normal although wind patterns may have become suspect. Thereafter, you will observe that the sky is getting darker and midday seems like dusk. That is the cloud of a global thermonuclear warfare.
The sun will be screened out for months and plants will die off. This will lead to global famine, first step. Of course, global trade is already gone and the world has reverted to primitive levels. The Internet is no more and telephone services have become epileptic.
Next will come the global outbreak of all forms of cancers from radiation carried around the world by the cloud earlier described. Death will become so much more desirable than life that those alive will curse their lot.
There will be survivors of course: those who have been hidden away in military grade silos and have ample supplies to carry them for about two years.
Those who just manage to go through about three years of life as foragers and scavengers and somehow have not been killed by skin cancer, blood cancer and other forms of metastasis. They are the ones that will populate the new world and begin to try to establish a new civilization.
Now you have an idea why NATO keeps avoiding fighting with Russia. It is simply to keep YOU alive.
kudos to you, these are the kind of people we need in nairaland not kids typing rubbish and rubbishing nairaland with unintelligent comments

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Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Kaiser20: 10:44pm On Mar 14, 2022
Comradewhy:

And what is Russia business with Ukraine wanting to Join NATO and have a base at it's house?
You ask very silly questions, at least you are up to17 years and have read various comments on Nairaland why Russia is having issues with Ukraine.

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Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Nobody: 10:45pm On Mar 14, 2022
Kaiser20:

You ask very silly questions, at least you are up to17 years and have read various comments on Nairaland why Russia is having issues with Ukraine.

Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by candiva: 11:03pm On Mar 14, 2022
tollyboy5:
Where are the ukraine is winning the war analyst grin grin grin grin
They have gone into hiding

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Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Xiaohei(m): 1:42am On Mar 15, 2022
Oshodipikin:
NATO IS AVOIDING WAR WITH RUSSIA FOR YOUR SAKE.
NATO's decision to not close the sky over Ukraine is correct. A shooting war between Russia and NATO should be avoided as much as possible and the way the US has been evading that confrontation is simply the right thing to do.If you think it is cowardice, it is because you don't know and this post will brief you.
Let me set it out in a very brief way.
There are three types of wars:
1. Conventional war - which is fought according to the rules of war: Don't kill civilians and children, don't hit civilian infrastructure, don't shoot surrendering enemy soldiers and PoWs, etc.
2. Total war - which Russia seems to be fighting in Ukraine right now and which it fought against Chechnya in Grozny. In a total war, you just kill everybody you see and destroy everything on your way.
3. Nuclear war.
On a normal day, Russia will fall quickly of NATO engages it in a conventional or a total war and Putin has admitted that much in a speech recently. There is no contest in that. NATO's firepower is extensive and its generals are top level.
However, the mismatch will force Russia to quickly resort to 'final-solution' tactics while it can - it will launch its arsenal of nuclear weapons. Lets be quickly reminded that since the 1970s, both the West and Russia have thousands of nuclear tipped missiles already programmed to hit targets in all major cities on each other's soil. With just the press of a button, those missiles will fly out and head for their targets.
But there are difficulties. Both sides have watchmen that are not sleeping. Every inch of Russian territory is under a 24/7 scan for missile launch by the West, using flare and heat detection satellites. Russia has the same system.
The moment a rocket motor ignites (most missiles are powered by rocket motors. Cruise missiles use air-breathing jet engines - pretty much the same used by aeroplanes, but they could be ramjets or jets with afterburners. Cruise missiles are usually called precision guided weapons), they know in the West. These missile scouts will start to track the missile or missiles and note their number, velocity and heading. They have about 10 minutes to confirm and reconfirm that missiles are being launched against the West. In this case they will mostly be ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles). Well, despite the heavy name, they are actually simple orbital rockets that can get into orbit and then re-enter the earth at the appropriate location - above their targets. At this point, they will release their thermonuclear warheads or bombs (all modern nuclear bombs carry thermonuclear warheads, that is, warheads that uses a small hydrogen bomb to initiate a chain reaction in its main fission bomb of Plutonium or Uranium). These warheads are shaped like cones and they are about 1.2m in height with a base diameter of about 800mm. The real active ingredient, Uranium or Plutonium inside the conical device is not bigger than a football but they are packed with the horrendous power of creation itself, the power of the nucleus of an atom called the Strong Force.
Two things will then happen in line with strictly established procedures it call it Battle Order.
Once a missile attack is detected, the US will immediately move it's president, his family, Pentagon chiefs and a few citizens into a bunker that is about 2 kilometers below the ground and under a mountain. It is suspended upon springs so it can withstand tectonic forces from a nuclear blast on the surface. The bunker contains provisions for two years to sustain the occupants. (I have seen the image somewhere about 25 years ago in maybe Times Magazine). Reporters taken there were blindfolded and flown for hours so they will not have a clear sense of direction. The location is totally secret but it is suspected that it is Nevada. It was not dug out directly but a lateral tunnel was created several miles away to this subterranean site.
1. The West will launch countermeasures at these warheads. (Usually, they will be 13 to 17 on each ICBM and at this stage, they are in their terminal altitude in space). This is the threat level the American THAAD anti-missile system is designed to contain. It will fly into space and try to steer kill vehicles into those warheads and of course, the success rate will understandably only be partial. Some will end up successfully re-entering the earth and dive (under zero power) for their targets. At this point, the Patriot system will come into action and try to swat the warheads. The Patriot complex deals with missiles within the atmosphere.
2. Simultaneously NATO will give orders for its own missile launches and within minutes, you will see missiles rise from silos and from submarines heading East to attack preset targets. B-52s ('Stratofortress'), B1, ('Spirit') and B2 ('Bones') -all long range bombers will take off from the US, Germany and probably Japan armed with hydrogen and Plutonium bombs and head for Russia. There are also about 1,500 nuclear weapons on each side that are currently in the field, mingled with conventional weapons but known to commanders. Those are probably the most dangerous of all these arsenal of nuclear weapons because they are already and permanently dispersed in the field. All - everything will be launched within just about 30 minutes in this make or break final combat.
Everything described above from the moment one side launches its nuclear weapons will not take more than 45 to 60 minutes and it is all over. If the attack takes place at night, right here in Nigeria, if you look northwest towards Europe or east northwest towards the United States, or northeast towards Russia, you will actually see a dull glow in your night sky though you won't hear the thunder of the explosions.
The next three days or even a week will be normal although wind patterns may have become suspect. Thereafter, you will observe that the sky is getting darker and midday seems like dusk. That is the cloud of a global thermonuclear warfare.
The sun will be screened out for months and plants will die off. This will lead to global famine, first step. Of course, global trade is already gone and the world has reverted to primitive levels. The Internet is no more and telephone services have become epileptic.
Next will come the global outbreak of all forms of cancers from radiation carried around the world by the cloud earlier described. Death will become so much more desirable than life that those alive will curse their lot.
There will be survivors of course: those who have been hidden away in military grade silos and have ample supplies to carry them for about two years.
Those who just manage to go through about three years of life as foragers and scavengers and somehow have not been killed by skin cancer, blood cancer and other forms of metastasis. They are the ones that will populate the new world and begin to try to establish a new civilization.
Now you have an idea why NATO keeps avoiding fighting with Russia. It is simply to keep YOU alive.

Knowledgeable, you are! I totally enjoyed reading your piece! You should be a writer! Ever given it a thought?My late dad, who was a soldier from the 69NA batch; who fought for Nigerian in the civil war, did a tour of duty to Lebanon and was part of the ECOMOG force to Liberia used to say wars were the greatest evil humans invented. Nigerians who call the restraints of the US; and NATO in the face of Russia’s aggressiveness cowardly do not fully grasp the gloom realities that await us all should a nuclear war erupt between Russia and the West. May Putin come to his senses. May peace prevail.
Re: Ukraine Begs Russia For Security Guarantees, Ceasefire, Immediate Withdrawal by Kingsnairaland(m): 4:57am On Mar 15, 2022
Funny online post..


Jean Bosco Niyongabo
This little comedian is smoking overdose chronic!! Surrender and save people, you think you can win this war? Russia is a continent even USA is afraid of Russia!! You think this is a comedy show, just wait a bit, it's gonna turn real
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