AllahEatsShit:
What a profoundly dumb thing to say

yea i know. Eatshit!

LordReed:


Yes she was within her legal rights but good sense would have you inform someone who is paying for something when a decision to be made about that thing. I suspect she knew they would kick against her decision that is why she didn't inform them.

Ofcourse she did know they would kick against it. However, i would like to think here that what she did was carry out was the man's choice and will in this.

Kobojunkiee:
The woman was married to the man at the time of his death, so there is technically nothing wrong with what she did.

Being in charge of the bills does not give one legal guardianship so the in-laws are wrong in assuming they should have been consulted on the matter. So the in-laws should probably work on accepting their loss and moving on from this.

junkie.!!!

Go there make dem beat the hell out of you.

elganzar:


The wife has final say (except it can be proved she has malicious intents) you can look it up...Saw it in a series "Good Doctor"

And that applies in the laws of

a) Sudan
b) Nigeria
c) Ghana
d) None of the above
e) All of the above

Kobojunkiee:
The woman was married to the man at the time of his death, so there is technically nothing wrong with what she did.

Being in charge of the bills does not give one legal guardianship so the in-laws are wrong in assuming they should have been consulted on the matter. So the in-laws should probably work on accepting their loss and moving on from this.

You are lost

Mikeeytools:
marriage Noe gave her right over his mother?

Marriage does that to you.

aribisala0:
No I am not convinced . I want to learn . What I abhor is people declaring things with no knowledge.

Simple question is there such a law in Nigeria ? Yes or No. If Yes tell us. I wan to read the law myself that is why I asked? So if you don't know say so . I don't either but do not pretend to know what you don't know

I love your passion....... I have posted enough materials... ...


YES, POA exists in Nigeria..... If you want one done, head to any law chambers to get it done...... Certain requirements must be satisfied........

aribisala0:
Actually I do not have an opinion on what the woman did and do not believe I expressed one. So where does "antagonizing" come into it? Are you OK?
"If I blame the woman I am wicked" How did I blame anybody? Do you have headache?

Eee I get headache you get the drug ?? See how caring you are asking as if you wan help. Loooolz.

DrFunmisticGlow:
the doctor is not at fault really.

Ethical/moral indications (such as the examples just described) would seem to consider a patient’s dissent an insurmountable obstacle, in clinical practice and in emergency situations where the patient is unconscious, the prevailing interpretation is that intervention (in the case in point, a blood transfusion) is not only legitimate but right and proper.

The doctor is also at fault!

pek:
You know why the law is blind? Because it doesn't see things from th3 emotional perspective. In law, the wife makes the final decision whether the husband is Buhari's son. That said, I don't support this JW nonsense.

True. At times the law is too strict to be applied in normal regular everyday situations.

Concerning the JW nonsense as you call it, I don't think one can judge them too much as everyone has the right to believe whatever they choose to. My only suggestion is that they should look for their fellow JW doctors and hospitals to take care of them when the chips are down than creating headaches for other people.

elganzar:


The wife has final say (except it can be proved she has malicious intents) you can look it up...Saw it in a series "Good Doctor"

However, i subscribe to the notion the family should have been consulted_ even if she'll be heady and still go with their faith...
She was really careless

You are still not within our context of the convo. No law in Nigeria places anyone above others in case of healthcare responsibilities. People only honor the tradition of marriage. If you don’t believe what I am saying consult a barrister. It is as simple as that. And here; I am not ceding my point on a party. I mentioned spouse- so it could be a wife or the husband.

She knew the consequences but still insistedc
she and her cohort member should be charged to court

Kobojunkiee:
Well, I put them all under the same flag. Unde marriage, a man becomes his wife's guardian and vice versa. In this case, the doctors understood this and had his wife sign the documents as his legal guardian.

You are making a lot of assumptions.
The concept of "guardian" or "guardianship" does not apply to an adult unless they have Enduring Mental Incapacity
Even at that There is specific "guardianship" legislation e.g. in the UK > Do we have guardianship legislation in Nigeria?
That man and wife automatically become each others' guardians is based on what ? Legislation or you like the sound of it? Does that apply to all countries and those with several wives?

Britishpea:
Did you read where I said no law gives superiority to any party in case of healthcare attendance? And I said some medical facilities and not all, gives recognitions to spouse more. While some will base their liabilities on whoever that brought in the sick person.

I don't follow!

Why would the law need to accord superiority in the case of healthcare attendance when that is instead established outside of that, in this case, at the point where the man married this woman.

Medical facilities should have no right to make decisions on behalf of patients. Consent is necessary in all cases to avoid malpractice suits.

Kobojunkiee:
Ofcourse she did know they would kick against it. However, i would like to think here that what she did was carry out was the man's choice and will in this.

I agree. Unfortunately for him it's light out sayonara and she is left to pick up the pieces. Sad.

Iglesia02:
She is married to the man before his death and did nothing wrong abi? My question is ,knowing that she is married to the man ,why was the family of the man footing the hospital bills and not her.? And I guess to her that was normal thing.

So they should deny their son to death if he has say a different believe they considered weird? Tell me more about witchcraft

Studymore123:
Jehovah's Witnesses make a personal decision on blood transfusion. The woman is completely excused from that decision because the man signed a durable power of attorney. That supersedes any decision to be made by anyone.

We should learn to have principles in life because if you don't stand for something you'll fall for everything.

You mean all Jehovah's witnesses sign these?

Lexusgs430:


I love your passion....... I have posted enough materials... ...


YES, POA exists in Nigeria..... If you want one done, head to any law chambers to get it done...... Certain requirements must be satisfied........

I did not ask if POA exists in Nigeria

I asked if there is legislation and does it apply SPECIFICALLY to health decisions.
If you don't know say so. If you do tell us the law

aribisala0:
You are making a lot of assumptions.
The concept of "guardian" or "guardianship" does not apply to an adult unless they have Enduring Mental Incapacity
Even at that There is specific "guardianship" legislation e.g. in the UK > Do we have guardianship legislation in Nigeria?
That man and wife automatically become each others' guardians is based on what ? Legislation or you like the sound of it? Does that apply to all countries and those with several wives?

Have you read about the Man decision ?

Hahaha funny people make una save una energy , even this matter have millions reference worldwide but the same ending. Stop antagonising the woman lolz the man would do same if reversed. This people have a a full consent card to that decision. Anybody around them at that period is just there to protect that Decision . Please see below the source https://www.ajwrb.org/watchtower-no-blood-card. Soo if you still blame that woman you are more wicked. Argumentors please I'm off

Even if the man is in the position that the wife is.....the wife would have also died....because the man will refuse blood transfusion for the wife.....if the wife had agreed to blood transfusion and d man survives, d man would have divorce the wife......

Iglesia02:
She is married to the man before his death and did nothing wrong abi? My question is ,knowing that she is married to the man ,why was the family of the man footing the hospital bills and not her.? And I guess to her that was normal thing.

You'd have to ask her and the family these questions.

aribisala0:


I did not ask if POA exists in Nigeria

I asked if there is legislation and does it apply SPECIFICALLY to health decisions.
If you don't know say so. If you do tell us the law

The meaning of POA is an all encompassing law. It means the same thing worldwide...,....

Over finances, medical and health decisions etc etc ......

It's like handing over your life decisions, to another trusted person. ........

Very powerful document........

Thank God I married the kind of man that has sense to involve my family in serious health issues.
Thank God.

duro4chang:
You can say this because you are not related to the woman. She is the only one who can tell what she is passing through and what she will pass through.

These things happen across the world daily with the JWs. Some even refuse blood transfusions for their own children. So stop trying desperately to make this about my person.

This wasn't always the case. People were excommunicated in the past for taking blood transfusions. In time they modified it to a conscientious decision with strong leaning to saying no to transfusions. Wouldn't be the first time.

Akinpresident:
No JW is compelled not to take blood. I know them very well. It's a personal decision of each JW based on their conscience. Even if someone goes ahead and take a transfusion, it doesn't mean they're no longer JW. It's an individual thing.

membranus:


Which law?

Quote the law.

Make Google your friend.

Kobojunkiee:
Ofcourse she did know they would kick against it. However, i would like to think here that what she did was carry out was the man's choice and will in this.

In that case the man failed to protect his wife. He should have left explicit instructions so there would be no ambiguity.

This is Nigeria and the woman will be found liable unless she can lawyer up.

Even then. It is more likely to be a case of who can settle the police more.

She refused to get blood for the husband...then why did Jehovah witness not save the man from dieing if they think they had the power to do so through their faith and believe... anything sickness you tackle it the medical way and spiritual way...at least the both ways but not only the spiritual way

foolbuster:
This was your statement The woman was married to the man at the time of his death, so there is technically nothing wrong with what she did.
You said she did nothing wrong. The man was semi-unconscious how can someone that is semi-unconscious make sound decisions

Why would a semiconscous man need to make a decision at that point. It wasn't like the man adopted the JW faith just before his surgery, right?

thesicilian:

[s]You're talking to a medical doctor. And FYI, your ignorance is only exceeded by your foul language. You're the perfect example of half education being worse than no education[/s].

Oga I'm sure you're one of these Ukraine trained drs with empty brain. We even discriminate against u guys here in naija BC u all know nothing and you just proved it.

aribisala0:


And that applies in the laws of

a) Sudan
b) Nigeria
c) Ghana
d) None of the above
e) All of the above

● Does such law exist??

Yes

● Does it exist in Nigeria?

Like you, I'm also ignorant in that respect

UMUAZEE:


In Europe/western world she is going jail for making decision that killed her husband when he could easily have survived..
However the doctors won't even ask her permission to give blood transfusions after surgery.

No talk about places you know nothing of..

No I talk about what I know of and where I have lived probably before you were born

Stop talking Nonsense

There are different laws across Europe . Even in the UK the law in England is different from Scotland

The legal issues here are
Mental Incapacity
Advanced Decision Making
Power of Attorney


You talked about "murder". That statement alone marks you out as borderline illiterate and not worth the effort.

Doctors make decisions about healthcare where the patient lacks capacity using "best interest" doctrines. In controversial cases they can approach , in England, The Court of Protection, a specialist Court in the UK .

There is Case law specific to Jehovah witnesses and blood transfusion from the Court of Protection so these are not uncharted waters.

Take your own advice

When you don't know just FEM!!!