Blame those ignorant of the law. And the man would leave his mother and father to become husband and Wife. What what God has yoked together, no man should put apart. The man and the woman is solely responsible for any decision partaining to their life. They knew the consequences and are responsible for their decisions. But here our African culture and mentality would never allow truth see the daylight.

Kobojunkiee:
[s]You should probably read up on the Marriage act and rules that govern guardianship pr Next-of-kin in Nigeria to gain better understanding of this for yourself[/s].

And she's still persistently ignorant . Who's talking about marriage here . We're talking about the health and care act . No one else except the patient has the right to consent on any procedure to be done to them and whereby they're incapacitated the state takes over . Quit your ignorance please

MPESA:


Don't mind the mumu... She for also buried him as well without consulting his family nah because say na stupid wife of the Year.

I swear, so because Jehovah witness don't allow blood transfusion, she had to allow the man to die, Omo if I be the relative ehhh, everybody wey dey present there go college woto woto, highest them go admit all of us again , Na the family de pay for hospital bill ohhhh..... I think say Jehovah witness Don go into extinction

Datikwerreboi:

Oga I'm sure you're one of these Ukraine trained drs with empty brain. We even discriminate against u guys here in naija BC u all know nothing and you just proved it.

Ok

elganzar:



● Does such law exist??

Yes

● Does it exist in Nigeria?

Like you, I'm also ignorant in that respect

Thanks There is only one possibility for the ignorant who know they are ignorant............................learning

Kobojunkiee:
Marriage law in Nigeria.

Quote the section

aribisala0:
You are making a lot of assumptions.
The concept of "guardian" or "guardianship" does not apply to an adult unless they have Enduring Mental Incapacity
Even at that There is specific "guardianship" legislation e.g. in the UK > Do we have guardianship legislation in Nigeria?
That man and wife automatically become each others' guardians is based on what ? Legislation or you like the sound of it? Does that apply to all countries and those with several wives?

What?

Kobojunkiee:
The woman was married to the man at the time of his death, so there is technically nothing wrong with what she did.

Being in charge of the bills does not give one legal guardianship so the in-laws are wrong in assuming they should have been consulted on the matter. So the in-laws should probably work on accepting their loss and moving on from this.

It is wrong.
Being married does not mean she own his life.

LordReed:
I agree. Unfortunately for him it's light out sayonara and she is left to pick up the pieces. Sad.

very sad!

Pecoleee345:
Should A Wife Be Allowed To Take A Big Decision Without Informing Her In-law?

Good afternoon everybody.i will make this short as possible.

A friend of mine just died in luth (cause of that was anemia). He was operated upon and they told his wife to get blood (2 r.o) for transfusion after the procedure but due to being a jehova witness she decided not to get the blood (jehova witness don't take blood,is against there faith).

She had a back and forth about the blood with the doctors and was asked to sign incase anything happen which she sign without the husband family knowledge....it was only her and her fellow jehova witness that took the decision.

He passed away this midnight, she called her in-law to inform them and I also got the information from the deceased younger brother.

On getting here the family found out the surgery was successful but he died of anemia, the doctors told them it was the wife decision not to get him blood against there prescriptions and infact she signed taking responsibility if anything happens.

A serious fight is happening here, the family are claiming she killed there son which I totally agree to as well.

So this my question, should a wife be allowed to take such a big decision without informing the husband family first.

Note; it was her in-laws that were paying the hospital bills.

This is wickedness, I can't even imagine myself in this scenario. You are not the one paying bills but you take decision unilaterally, I can't fathom such a painful disaster.

Kajaard:


I do the same as well. They are extremely weird people.

But they are upright sha,it’s just this blood transfusions wahala I don’t agree with them on.You still haven’t told me your main monika

Kobojunkiee:
These things happen across the world daily with the JWs. Some even refuse blood transfusions for their own children. So stop trying desperately to make this about my person.

It happens daily around the world but you cannot feel it because you are not directly involved.

Kobojunkiee:
Why would a semiconscous man need to make a decision at that point. It wasn't like the man adopted the JW faith just before his surgery, right?

That the man belongs to a sect does not automatically mean he explicitly does whatever the sect demands, especially in life-threatening situations. Atleast let him make the decision himself if he is confirmed to be of sound mind and body.
That you are a legal guardian or whatever does not mean there are no consequences for actions you take on behalf of your subject. The woman went against the directives of professionals, this is a pure case of manslaughter.

You are a guardian to a kid the kid gets bitten by a poisonous snake you take the child to the hospital the medics directs clearly that she should be given anti-venom or the child dies, you decide not to and signs documents accepting the blame should anything happen, the child dies, what do you call that, isn't it manslaughter?

Datikwerreboi:

And she's still persistently ignorant . Who's talking about marriage here . We're talking about the health and care act . No one else except the patient has the right to consent on any procedure to be done to them and whereby they're incapacitated the state takes over . Quit your ignorance please

What healthcare act? Please can you show where this is stated?

.

Kobojunkiee:
The woman was married to the man at the time of his death, so there is technically nothing wrong with what she did.

Being in charge of the bills does not give one legal guardianship so the in-laws are wrong in assuming they should have been consulted on the matter. So the in-laws should probably work on accepting their loss and moving on from this.

You're talking as if it's easy.
It's because you're not in the situation

Britishpea:


You are still not within our context of the convo. No law in Nigeria places anyone above others in case of healthcare responsibilities. People only honor the tradition of marriage. If you don’t believe what I am saying consult a barrister. It is as simple as that. And here; I am not ceding my point on a party. I mentioned spouse- so it could be a wife or the husband.

The person I quoted _ asked if such law exists, he didn't ask in Nigeria... I replied yes to let him/you know there is the possibility of its existence in Nigeria...

Maybe you're right, maybe you're not_ right now I do not know...Honestly, i don't even care

aribisala0:
No I talk about what I know of and where I have lived probably before you were born

Stop talking Nonsense

There are different laws across Europe . Even in the UK the law in England is different from Scotland

The legal issues here are
Mental Incapacity
Advanced Decision Making
Power of Attorney


You talked about "murder". That statement alone marks you out as borderline illiterate and not worth the effort.

Doctors make decisions about healthcare where the patient lacks capacity using "best interest" doctrines. In controversial cases they can approach , in England, The Court of Protection, a specialist Court in the UK .

There is Case law specific to Jehovah witnesses and blood transfusion from the Court of Protection so these are not uncharted waters.

Take your own advice

When you don't know just FEM!!!

Bro shut up. I live in western world, a doctor will not ask permission to perform simple life saving procedures like giving blood during sugery like this topic we are discussing.
You sound like those Africans that migrate here physically and not mentally hence you don't know your rights and keep getting oppressed in western world.

Kobojunkiee:
The woman was married to the man at the time of his death, so there is technically nothing wrong with what she did.

Being in charge of the bills does not give one legal guardianship so the in-laws are wrong in assuming they should have been consulted on the matter. So the in-laws should probably work on accepting their loss and moving on from this.

You again?


Why can you not pretend to be wise sometimes? A full grown man (who is somebody's son, brother & uncle) is laying on the sick bed and you think the wife should take a unilateral decision regarding his health? Did you even bother to ask yourself if the victim was in agreement with the decision? I think Seun needs to make Mental Evaluation a criterion to comment on public forum. Some of you are like bungalows; you have nothing upstairs.

If na my family ehn, e don be for the woman and her useles.s JW cohorts. RIP to the man!

dalongjnr:
Hmmm..... For,any surgical procedure I'm to perform, if it's intensive, there most be GXM of mobile donor,prior to the procedure. In fact, you most accept that before signing the consent form or else, get someone that can risk your life for you. As you can see, I'm not reckless with my life.

I'm wondering why would a doctor carry out such a surgical operation on a patient without running a background checks via test to know if the patient is anemic?

I like your position on this.

they8 keep this because its their sin. but they keep on fornicating in secret. why not put blood in secret too

Kobojunkiee:
What healthcare act? What the heck are you still rambling on about?

Kai, you're really a junkiee kobojunkiee.

descartes400:




In the story, there was no where the OP who was a WITNESS to the happenings stated that the consent of the Husband was sought for blood transfusion before the surgery so, i wonder were you got your own version of the story from.

Meaning you do not understand me. I asked if the man was brought into the hospital unconscious. If not, then the doctor may have offered him transfusion during clinic visit.
Also, I stated that if the anemia was noticed after the procedure, it then mean that the man started bleeding after the surgery in which case they will still have to offer him transfusion again but since the man can't give consent on account of his altered consciousness, the wife can stand in to give consent. Consent was declined by the wife in dis case. She's not to blame

Stanleyq:
they8 keep this because its their sin. but they keep on fornicating in secret. why not put blood in secret too

Them Sabi fvck oo. Then next Friday they will carry bible around . I had one I fvcked in those days and she takes me to her church lol

thesicilian:
Was this possibility of blood transfusion discussed with the husband before the surgery and if so what was his position on that? Being Jehovah's witnesses no one can blame the wife personally for the decision, she was betrayed by her religious beliefs.

Hahaha funny people make una save una energy , even this matter have millions reference worldwide but the same ending. Stop antagonising the woman lolz the man would do same if reversed. This people have a a full consent card to that decision. Anybody around them at that period is just there to protect that Decision . Please see below the source https://www.ajwrb.org/watchtower-no-blood-card. Soo if you still blame that woman you are more wicked. Argumentors please I'm off

Pecoleee345:

Yes......an abia indigene.
They are not taking it likely with her at all.....the whole thing sound ridiculous.

Non of her Jehova witness is showing up.....they all left her now.

They benjonhsoned

thesicilian:
Was this possibility of blood transfusion discussed with the husband before the surgery and if so what was his position on that? Being Jehovah's witnesses no one can blame the wife personally for the decision, she was betrayed by her religious beliefs.

Right. As long as the man was himself a practising Witness, the wife is not to blame. It was something they both agreed upon before he went into the surgery.

dontrulee:
You're talking as if it's easy.
It's because you're not in the situation

No, you are just talking the way you do because you are probably used to trying to impose your beliefs on others.

This couple had a belief and principle which they lived their lives by. Why do you refuse to see and accept that no matter how much it conflicts with yours, and even mine?

UMUAZEE:
Bro shut up. I live in western world, a doctor will not ask permission to perform simple life saving procedures like giving blood during sugery like this topic we are discussing.
You sound like those Africans that migrate here physically and not mentally hence you don't know your rights and keep getting oppressed in western world.

You are lying!

Kobojunkiee:
The woman was married to the man at the time of his death, so there is technically nothing wrong with what she did.

Being in charge of the bills does not give one legal guardianship so the in-laws are wrong in assuming they should have been consulted on the matter. So the in-laws should probably work on accepting their loss and moving on from this.

Your seem quiet eloquent with your diction and tenses,shows you go school.
But beloved,
You're a very big fool.
That is all I can say as regards your comment.

Gaddafi1:


Doctors don't carry out surgery without making sure of the availability of standby blood. Please check the story again from LUTH and feed us with the correct information.

you are right brother. I did two major surgery at LUTH, the doctors made sure my donor have donated before the surgery commenced

Pecoleee345:

I wish you are here now to defend her ooooo.....she really needs someone like you.

Hell just broke loose

Defend what?she is lucky its not my relation if not the heat will make what she is experiencing now as child's play.She didn't call inlaws when she was deciding and sealing their sons fate its now that she killed him that she remembered they exist..and I hope she doesn't expect any one of them to make any financial commitments even for his burial?since she decided to make decisions all on her own then she should suffer the consequences too all on her own..stupid fanatic dumb woman in modern times.smh