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Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by AntiChristian: 3:57pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Ah! If them catch you? No be me talk am o! haekymbahd |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by Kobojunkie: 3:58pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
AntiChristian:There is nothing hidden about what is written in scripture. ![]() |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by AntiChristian: 4:01pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
Truvelisback: Did he point to himself as saying " The women should keep quiet in the churches..."? How do we differentiate from "his saying" and "holy spirit inspired saying of his"? Why does the Bible need to contain apostle's sayings not inspired of the Holy Spirit? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by Truvelisback(m): 4:17pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
AntiChristian:Note: He(not Christ) said that based on the fact men were created first before women using Genesis scripture. Note: The Apostles are different from other Ministry gifts like Pastors, evangelist and Teachers. They are the Custodians of God's word. I think i have answered those questions. |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by Kobojunkie: 4:28pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
AntiChristian:1. Paul's letters to the Jewish Christians where specifically written by him as a source to inform these people of his opinions and experiences and where never meant as replacements to the teachings of Jesus Christ. When he spoke of that which is as commanded of God, he made this to them. ![]() 2. All knowledge of good and evil belongs to God meaning His Spirit inspires it all. The key is in understanding what the word means and what it means to believe that the Spirit of God is the only Spirit of inspiration. ![]() 3. The key, again, is in understanding what the word means and what it means to believe that the Spirit of God is the only Spirit of inspiration. ![]() |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by orisa37: 6:54pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
Are you a Catholic? I'm not a Roman Catholic but a Christian Catholic of the Order of SAINT JOHN'S GOSPEL CHAPTER 17. When did women repent in Mary? The moment she accepts JESUS CHRIST AS her LORD, LORDGOD AND GOD IN HEAVEN: HER LIGHT, GOODNESS AND LIFE AND HER OFFER, CONSIDERATION AND ACCEPTANCE. Jesus never had any female disciples did he? MARY MAGDALENE WAS AN APOSTLE. THERE'S JULIE IN THE ACTS OF APOSTLES. THERE ARE MANY OTHERS IN THE ACTS OF APOSTLES THAT WORKED WITH THE RELEVANT DISCIPLES. THEY'RE APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES LIKE PAUL, PETER, JAMES, JOHN AND OTHERS. GOD BLESS YOU. |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by haekymbahd(m): 7:43pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
orisa37:Okay orisa37:Why is this dependent on Mary when she is not a female CHRIST? Are you trying to say Apostle Paul is wrong for saying women must not speak in church? orisa37:Jesus had 12 disciples yet the females where not counted among even Mary Magdalene had already been with him and she was not considered one if the disciples. Even after Judas betrayal they were still reduced to eleven. Mathew 28 16 Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed and made appointment with them. |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:25pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
haekymbahd: Revelation 2:20 settles this. |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by haekymbahd(m): 4:46am On Mar 18, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:Alright, are you in support of Paul here or not? |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by haekymbahd(m): 4:54am On Mar 18, 2022 |
AntiChristian:Infact he cleared himself in that same verse that what he said was the command of the Lord meaning not his own opinion. 1 Corinthians 14vs 34-37 34 The women should keep quiet in the churches, for they are not authorized to speak, but should take a secondary and subordinate place, just as the Law also says.(B) 35But if there is anything they want to learn, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to talk in church [[g]for her to usurp and exercise authority over men in the church]. 36What! Did the word of the Lord originate with you [Corinthians], or has it reached only you? 37 If anyone thinks and claims that he is a prophet [filled with and governed by the Holy Spirit of God and inspired to interpret the divine will and purpose in preaching or teaching] or has any other spiritual endowment, let him understand (recognize and acknowledge) that what I am writing to you is a command of the Lord. Truvelisback |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:58am On Mar 18, 2022 |
haekymbahd: It is not a Support Cause. Lawyer Paul is only expressing an Implied Law. 1) The Temple of The Lord was to be administered by Aaron and his sons Forever! (And not Aaron and his children or Aaron and his sons and daughters" ) 2) The Law of Sabbath in Exodus 20:10 wives (women) were impliedly exempted. (This should tell you something) 3) "Three times in the year, all males are to appear before The Lord" Exodus 23:17 (Clearly, women are not allowed to come near God). Lawyer Paul was only expressing Implied Law! |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:03am On Mar 18, 2022 |
haekymbahd: Through your posts it's clear that you want to ascertain what should be done in pure worship. I want you to know that Christianity differs from all other religions where observers won't know the difference between fake and original. Jesus so much arranged everything in order so that whoever wants to know his true disciples will IDENTIFY them not individually but by the way their activities are conducted globally {Matthew 5:14-16; 7:16:18} that's why the inhabitants of Antioch could recognize his disciples and called them by the title Jesus was called "CHRISTIANS" Act 11:26 ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by Fiscus105(m): 6:19am On Mar 18, 2022 |
Ammishaddai:Rc Oga it's you who lack common sense when reading bible. Jesus instructions must stronger than any other disciples' ..........Jesus said, in MARK 16*15, go ye into the world and preach my gospel......... NB. Jesus didn't say only man should go into the world, neither did he exclude church from where the gospel would be preached. Meanwhile, practically! How is possible for women to come to the church and remain silent? Why coming to church in first instance if they would come there and be dumb? |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by Ammishaddai: 6:33am On Mar 18, 2022 |
[s] Fiscus105:[/s] You're just talking rubbish. The entire bible is God's word and if you believe this you'd accept everything written in it as the final authority in your life. But it's quite obvious you want to pick certain things that don't agree with you because you have you own satanic doctrine of what is right and wrong |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:58am On Mar 18, 2022 |
Fiscus105: Preaching from house to house was assigned to all disciples of Christ but when it comes to those taking the lead among his disciples it's strictly men's affairs. That's what Apostle Paul is saying. Note that if you're not an Israelite Jesus has no business with you! Matthew 10:6; 15:24 Jesus' mission on planet earth is to organize the Jews so that God's people may serve the purpose He (God) foretold about Abraham's descendants {Genesis 12:1-3} after the commissioning of Christianity believing Jews will take the gospel to other nations so that we may hold unto them for our own Salvation! Zechariah 8:23 So after commissioning Christianity Jesus told his Jewish disciples that their assigned territory begins from Samaria (Northern Kingdom of Israel) then to other nations of the earth! Act 1:8 But none of his disciples is vast in the laws so after noticing Saul (Paul) who so much love God's law Jesus chose this man to champion the mission to other nations! Act 9:15 So without Apostle Paul's mission Jesus had no business with you if you're not an Israelite. God bless you and may you have PEACE! ![]() |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by Truvelisback(m): 7:57am On Mar 18, 2022 |
haekymbahd:Just as the law says. Which law? Anna in the New testament, isn't she a Prophetess? What abt Deborah who was a prophetess and led people into war? |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by Fiscus105(m): 8:36am On Mar 18, 2022 |
Ammishaddai: Oga,you lack wisdom and I will advice you to go for Bible believing church and if possible go to Bible school, not that one alone you also need improvement on literally and contextual meanings in narrations of text, be it bible or any other text books. Idiomatic expression Figurative expression etc. Let me tell you your bigger problems in reading generally. U don't knw how to interpret figurative or idiomatic expressions correctly. Let me tell you few expressions that not expressed literally in Bible, which I biliv people like you, would use the expression to mislead people. * JESUS SAID, LET THIS CUP RUNNETH OVER ME * I WILL PULL DOWN THE SYNAGOGUE AND REBUILD IT 3 DAYS * IF THEY SLAP YOU TURN THE SECOND FOR HIM *LEAVE UR FATHER AND ALL UR SIBLINGS AND FOLOW ME. *WOMEN SHOULD REMAIN SILENT IN CHURCH among others. All these expressions are not expressed literally but contextually. I know you will still twist o , because you lack wisdom to interpret it and you can't give what you don't have. Ur type makes Christianity confused and mockery for those whose knowledgeable, those who are not dunce in reasoning. If you are not foolish and crazy, you will not tell women to leave their houses and come to church and remain silent for whatever hours you want to spend, these women you will collect the tithes and offerings o. |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by Ammishaddai: 9:05am On Mar 18, 2022 |
[s] Fiscus105:[/s] Go and argue with your bible and stop disturbing my mentions with your self-imposed hypocrisy |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by AntiChristian: 9:06am On Mar 18, 2022 |
haekymbahd:Ah! Paul don break table o! |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by judedwriter(m): 11:44am On Mar 18, 2022 |
haekymbahd: Paul was speaking from his own personal opinion, not God's. Why would God give the Holy Spirit to women if He required them to hush up in church? As for the law Paul referred to, it refers to law of a woman submitting to her husband. A woman as a pastor can submit to her husband and still fulfill her ministry as a preacher. |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by AntiChristian: 12:23pm On Mar 18, 2022 |
judedwriter: 1 Corinthians 14vs 34 The women should keep quiet in the churches, for they are not authorized to speak, but should take a secondary and subordinate place, just as the Law also says. In the above, "just as the law says" qualifies[b] "Women should keep quiet in Churches for they are not authorised to speak but should take a secondary and subordinate place."[/b] Where does the law state that women should take a subordinate place and should keep quiet in Churches? |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by judedwriter(m): 12:28pm On Mar 18, 2022 |
AntiChristian: Lol, I should ask you that question. |
Re: Why Are Women Now Speaking In Churches is it biblical or disobedience? by AntiChristian: 1:08pm On Mar 18, 2022 |
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