Kobojunkie:
Well, it is a lie to claim that there are no contradictions in the accounts recorded in what is scripture. So anyone who adopts the view that the Bible is a holy book and or inerrant believes a lie. This since scripture contains the Word of God Himself, the accounts of men, Satan and even demons.

Ah! If them catch you?
No be me talk am o!

haekymbahd

AntiChristian:
Ah! If them catch you?
No be me talk am o!

There is nothing hidden about what is written in scripture.

Truvelisback:
Note: In the Bible In the Book of Corinthians, sometimes Apostle Paul uses the Phrase. "Not I(Paul), the Lord said" This is implies that some instructions Paul gave to the Church to do or follow are directly from the Lord while some instructions he to the Church to do or follow were his, base on his observation in the Churches. Perhaps, he had noticed behaviours or things that he felt are going wrong. Note: Paul is an Apostle. He is oversees the Churches.

Did he point to himself as saying " The women should keep quiet in the churches..."?

How do we differentiate from "his saying" and "holy spirit inspired saying of his"?

Why does the Bible need to contain apostle's sayings not inspired of the Holy Spirit?

AntiChristian:


Did he point to himself as saying " The women should keep quiet in the churches..."?

How do we differentiate from "his saying" and "holy spirit inspired saying of his"?

Why does the Bible need to contain apostle's sayings not inspired of the Holy Spirit?

Note: He(not Christ) said that based on the fact men were created first before women using Genesis scripture. Note: The Apostles are different from other Ministry gifts like Pastors, evangelist and Teachers. They are the Custodians of God's word. I think i have answered those questions.

AntiChristian:
1. Did he point to himself as saying " The women should keep quiet in the churches..."?

2. How do we differentiate from "his saying" and "holy spirit inspired saying of his"?

3. Why does the Bible need to contain apostle's sayings not inspired of the Holy Spirit?

1. Paul's letters to the Jewish Christians where specifically written by him as a source to inform these people of his opinions and experiences and where never meant as replacements to the teachings of Jesus Christ. When he spoke of that which is as commanded of God, he made this to them.

2. All knowledge of good and evil belongs to God meaning His Spirit inspires it all. The key is in understanding what the word means and what it means to believe that the Spirit of God is the only Spirit of inspiration.

3. The key, again, is in understanding what the word means and what it means to believe that the Spirit of God is the only Spirit of inspiration.

Are you a Catholic? I'm not a Roman Catholic but a Christian Catholic of the Order of SAINT JOHN'S GOSPEL CHAPTER 17.

When did women repent in Mary? The moment she accepts JESUS CHRIST AS her LORD, LORDGOD AND GOD IN HEAVEN: HER LIGHT, GOODNESS AND LIFE AND HER OFFER, CONSIDERATION AND ACCEPTANCE.


Jesus never had any female disciples did he?
MARY MAGDALENE WAS AN APOSTLE. THERE'S JULIE IN THE ACTS OF APOSTLES. THERE ARE MANY OTHERS IN THE ACTS OF APOSTLES THAT WORKED WITH THE RELEVANT DISCIPLES. THEY'RE APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES LIKE PAUL, PETER, JAMES, JOHN AND OTHERS.

GOD BLESS YOU.

orisa37:
Are you a Catholic? I'm not a Roman Catholic but a Christian Catholic of the Order of SAINT JOHN'S GOSPEL CHAPTER 17.

Okay

orisa37:

When did women repent in Mary? The moment she accepts JESUS CHRIST AS her LORD, LORDGOD AND GOD IN HEAVEN: HER LIGHT, GOODNESS AND LIFE AND HER OFFER, CONSIDERATION AND ACCEPTANCE.

Why is this dependent on Mary when she is not a female CHRIST?


Are you trying to say Apostle Paul is wrong for saying women must not speak in church?

orisa37:

Jesus never had any female disciples did he?
MARY MAGDALENE WAS AN APOSTLE. THERE'S JULIE IN THE ACTS OF APOSTLES. THERE ARE MANY OTHERS IN THE ACTS OF APOSTLES THAT WORKED WITH THE RELEVANT DISCIPLES. THEY'RE APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES LIKE PAUL, PETER, JAMES, JOHN AND OTHERS.

GOD BLESS YOU.

Jesus had 12 disciples yet the females where not counted among even Mary Magdalene had already been with him and she was not considered one if the disciples. Even after Judas betrayal they were still reduced to eleven.


Mathew 28

16 Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed and made appointment with them.

haekymbahd:
Women are not allowed to speak in church

1 Corinthians 14:34-35

34 The women should keep quiet in the churches, for they are not authorized to speak, but should take a secondary and subordinate place, just as the Law also says.(B)

35 But if there is anything they want to learn, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to talk in church [[g]for her to usurp and exercise authority over men in the church].

Revelation 2:20 settles this.

Dtruthspeaker:


Revelation 2:20 settles this.

Alright, are you in support of Paul here or not?

AntiChristian:


Did he point to himself as saying " The women should keep quiet in the churches..."?

How do we differentiate from "his saying" and "holy spirit inspired saying of his"?

Why does the Bible need to contain apostle's sayings not inspired of the Holy Spirit?

Infact he cleared himself in that same verse that what he said was the command of the Lord meaning not his own opinion.

1 Corinthians 14vs 34-37

34 The women should keep quiet in the churches, for they are not authorized to speak, but should take a secondary and subordinate place, just as the Law also says.(B)

35But if there is anything they want to learn, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to talk in church [[g]for her to usurp and exercise authority over men in the church].

36What! Did the word of the Lord originate with you [Corinthians], or has it reached only you?

37 If anyone thinks and claims that he is a prophet [filled with and governed by the Holy Spirit of God and inspired to interpret the divine will and purpose in preaching or teaching] or has any other spiritual endowment, let him understand (recognize and acknowledge) that what I am writing to you is a command of the Lord.


Truvelisback

haekymbahd:
Alright, are you in support of Paul here or not?

It is not a Support Cause. Lawyer Paul is only expressing an Implied Law.

1) The Temple of The Lord was to be administered by Aaron and his sons Forever! (And not Aaron and his children or Aaron and his sons and daughters" )

2) The Law of Sabbath in Exodus 20:10 wives (women) were impliedly exempted. (This should tell you something)

3) "Three times in the year, all males are to appear before The Lord" Exodus 23:17 (Clearly, women are not allowed to come near God).

Lawyer Paul was only expressing Implied Law!

haekymbahd:

Infact he cleared himself in that same verse that what he said was the command of the Lord meaning not his own opinion.

Through your posts it's clear that you want to ascertain what should be done in pure worship.
I want you to know that Christianity differs from all other religions where observers won't know the difference between fake and original.
Jesus so much arranged everything in order so that whoever wants to know his true disciples will IDENTIFY them not individually but by the way their activities are conducted globally {Matthew 5:14-16; 7:16:18} that's why the inhabitants of Antioch could recognize his disciples and called them by the title Jesus was called "CHRISTIANS" Act 11:26

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] You can't change the word God like your idealogies. Secondly, this isn't about "control" ; it's about the what God says ...and He said in his words that women aren't suppose to be leader in churches . A man cannot bear children and that's because it was ordained by God to be so likewise a woman has her own roles to play that the man can never function in. So let that sink in

P.S : the Holy Spirit only reveals what's written in God word and He is not the author of confusion

Rc

Oga it's you who lack common sense when reading bible.

Jesus instructions must stronger than any other disciples' ..........Jesus said, in MARK 16*15, go ye into the world and preach my gospel.........

NB. Jesus didn't say only man should go into the world, neither did he exclude church from where the gospel would be preached.

Meanwhile, practically! How is possible for women to come to the church and remain silent? Why coming to church in first instance if they would come there and be dumb?

[s]

Fiscus105:

Rc

Oga it's you who lack common sense when reading bible.

Jesus instructions must stronger than any other disciples' ..........Jesus said, in MARK 16*15, go ye into the world and preach my gospel.........

NB. Jesus didn't say only man should go into the world, neither did he exclude church from where the gospel would be preached.

Meanwhile, practically! How is possible for women to come to the church and remain silent? Why coming to church in first instance if they would come there and be dumb?

[/s] You're just talking rubbish. The entire bible is God's word and if you believe this you'd accept everything written in it as the final authority in your life. But it's quite obvious you want to pick certain things that don't agree with you because you have you own satanic doctrine of what is right and wrong

Fiscus105:

Rc
Oga it's you who lack common sense when reading bible.
Jesus instructions must stronger than any other disciples' ..........Jesus said, in MARK 16*15, go ye into the world and preach my gospel.........
NB. Jesus didn't say only man should go into the world, neither did he exclude church from where the gospel would be preached.
Meanwhile, practically! How is possible for women to come to the church and remain silent? Why coming to church in first instance if they would come there and be dumb?

Preaching from house to house was assigned to all disciples of Christ but when it comes to those taking the lead among his disciples it's strictly men's affairs.
That's what Apostle Paul is saying.

Note that if you're not an Israelite Jesus has no business with you! Matthew 10:6; 15:24

Jesus' mission on planet earth is to organize the Jews so that God's people may serve the purpose He (God) foretold about Abraham's descendants {Genesis 12:1-3} after the commissioning of Christianity believing Jews will take the gospel to other nations so that we may hold unto them for our own Salvation! Zechariah 8:23

So after commissioning Christianity Jesus told his Jewish disciples that their assigned territory begins from Samaria (Northern Kingdom of Israel) then to other nations of the earth! Act 1:8

But none of his disciples is vast in the laws so after noticing Saul (Paul) who so much love God's law Jesus chose this man to champion the mission to other nations! Act 9:15

So without Apostle Paul's mission Jesus had no business with you if you're not an Israelite.

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

haekymbahd:
Infact he cleared himself in that same verse that what he said was the command of the Lord meaning not his own opinion.

1 Corinthians 14vs 34-37

34 The women should keep quiet in the churches, for they are not authorized to speak, but should take a secondary and subordinate place, just as the Law also says.(B)

35But if there is anything they want to learn, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to talk in church [[g]for her to usurp and exercise authority over men in the church].

36What! Did the word of the Lord originate with you [Corinthians], or has it reached only you?

37 If anyone thinks and claims that he is a prophet [filled with and governed by the Holy Spirit of God and inspired to interpret the divine will and purpose in preaching or teaching] or has any other spiritual endowment, let him understand (recognize and acknowledge) that what I am writing to you is a command of the Lord.


Truvelisback

Just as the law says. Which law? Anna in the New testament, isn't she a Prophetess? What abt Deborah who was a prophetess and led people into war?

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] You're just talking rubbish. The entire bible is God's word and if you believe this you'd accept everything written in it as the final authority in your life. But it's quite obvious you want to pick certain things that don't agree with you because you have you own satanic doctrine of what is right and wrong

Oga,you lack wisdom and I will advice you to go for Bible believing church and if possible go to Bible school, not that one alone you also need improvement on literally and contextual meanings in narrations of text, be it bible or any other text books.

Idiomatic expression
Figurative expression etc.

Let me tell you your bigger problems in reading generally. U don't knw how to interpret figurative or idiomatic expressions correctly.

Let me tell you few expressions that not expressed literally in Bible, which I biliv people like you, would use the expression to mislead people.

* JESUS SAID, LET THIS CUP RUNNETH OVER ME
* I WILL PULL DOWN THE SYNAGOGUE AND REBUILD IT 3 DAYS
* IF THEY SLAP YOU TURN THE SECOND FOR HIM
*LEAVE UR FATHER AND ALL UR SIBLINGS AND FOLOW ME.
*WOMEN SHOULD REMAIN SILENT IN CHURCH among others.

All these expressions are not expressed literally but contextually.

I know you will still twist o , because you lack wisdom to interpret it and you can't give what you don't have.

Ur type makes Christianity confused and mockery for those whose knowledgeable, those who are not dunce in reasoning.


If you are not foolish and crazy, you will not tell women to leave their houses and come to church and remain silent for whatever hours you want to spend, these women you will collect the tithes and offerings o.

[s]

Fiscus105:




Oga,you lack wisdom and I will advice you to go for Bible believing church and if possible go to Bible school, not that one alone you also need improvement on literally and contextual meanings in narrations of text, be it bible or any other text books.

Idiomatic expression
Figurative expression etc.

Let me tell you your bigger problems in reading generally. U don't knw how to interpret figurative or idiomatic expressions correctly.

Let me tell you few expressions that not expressed literally in Bible, which I biliv people like you, would use the expression to mislead people.

* JESUS SAID, LET THIS CUP RUNNETH OVER ME
* I WILL PULL DOWN THE SYNAGOGUE AND REBUILD IT 3 DAYS
* IF THEY SLAP YOU TURN THE SECOND FOR HIM
*LEAVE UR FATHER AND ALL UR SIBLINGS AND FOLOW ME.
*WOMEN SHOULD REMAIN SILENT IN CHURCH among others.

All these expressions are not expressed literally but contextually.

I know you will still twist o , because you lack wisdom to interpret it and you can't give what you don't have.

Ur type makes Christianity confused and mockery for those whose knowledgeable, those who are not dunce in reasoning.


If you are not foolish and crazy, you will not tell women to leave their houses and come to church and remain silent for whatever hours you want to spend, these women you will collect the tithes and offerings o.

[/s] Go and argue with your bible and stop disturbing my mentions with your self-imposed hypocrisy

haekymbahd:
Infact he cleared himself in that same verse that what he said was the command of the Lord meaning not his own opinion.

1 Corinthians 14vs 34-37

34 The women should keep quiet in the churches, for they are not authorized to speak, but should take a secondary and subordinate place, just as the Law also says.(B)

35But if there is anything they want to learn, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to talk in church [[g]for her to usurp and exercise authority over men in the church].

36What! Did the word of the Lord originate with you [Corinthians], or has it reached only you?

37 If anyone thinks and claims that he is a prophet [filled with and governed by the Holy Spirit of God and inspired to interpret the divine will and purpose in preaching or teaching] or has any other spiritual endowment, let him understand (recognize and acknowledge) that what I am writing to you is a command of the Lord.


Truvelisback

Ah! Paul don break table o!

haekymbahd:
Women are not allowed to speak in church

1 Corinthians 14:34-35

34 The women should keep quiet in the churches, for they are not authorized to speak, but should take a secondary and subordinate place, just as the Law also says.(B)

35 But if there is anything they want to learn, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to talk in church [[g]for her to usurp and exercise authority over men in the church].

Paul was speaking from his own personal opinion, not God's.

Why would God give the Holy Spirit to women if He required them to hush up in church?

As for the law Paul referred to, it refers to law of a woman submitting to her husband.

A woman as a pastor can submit to her husband and still fulfill her ministry as a preacher.

judedwriter:


Paul was speaking from his own personal opinion, not God's.

Why would God give the Holy Spirit to women if He required them to hush up in church?

As for the law Paul referred to, it refers to law of a woman submitting to her husband.

A woman as a pastor can submit to her husband and still fulfill her ministry as a preacher.

1 Corinthians 14vs 34

The women should keep quiet in the churches, for they are not authorized to speak, but should take a secondary and subordinate place, just as the Law also says.

In the above, "just as the law says" qualifies[b] "Women should keep quiet in Churches for they are not authorised to speak but should take a secondary and subordinate place."[/b]

Where does the law state that women should take a subordinate place and should keep quiet in Churches?

AntiChristian:


1 Corinthians 14vs 34

The women should keep quiet in the churches, for they are not authorized to speak, but should take a secondary and subordinate place, just as the Law also says.

In the above, "just as the law says" qualifies[b] "Women should keep quiet in Churches for they are not authorised to speak but should take a secondary and subordinate place."[/b]

Where does the law state that women should take a subordinate place and should keep quiet in Churches?

Lol, I should ask you that question.

judedwriter:


Lol, I should ask you that question.

Let me open a thread and ask then.