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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:10am On Mar 20, 2022
Accra remind of Kampala. Seems everywhere is just informal business in-front of formal business. Must be tough being a formal business with kiosks, street vendors and hawkers - paying zero rent and blocking your business - and outcompeting you.

popizaino:
I come in peace grin



Developed Accra


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDwsfb7di34





Underdeveloped Portharcourt



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEjRpGMJ8JY

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:29am On Mar 20, 2022
vankelvin:


There is one animal in the comment section of AT's videos who has taken the whole thing world cup and I suspect that person to be this baby factory product(Pokuase).

The guy is called Kebi Fest and has about 1000 negative comments grin grin
Such useless soul
I wonder what will make a person this bitter despite the fact that the only sane place he will ever be able to have a good living is the very same place he feels so bitter about because he was asked to do the right thing.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:31am On Mar 20, 2022
rvp2018:
Accra remind of Kampala. Seems everywhere is just informal business in-front of formal business. Must be tough being a formal business with kiosks, street vendors and hawkers - paying zero rent and blocking your business - and outcompeting you.

That will make Kampala more developed than Nairobi

You see how informal your country is with all the hawking and kiosk all around?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 11:46am On Mar 20, 2022
Just40:
That will make Kampala more developed than Nairobi
cheesy You sef.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:48am On Mar 20, 2022
While the informal economy can provide a temporary, imperfect social safety net, benefits of formalization are clear advantages for informal businesses to move out of operating in the shadow economy. https://blogs.worldbank.org/psd/out-shadows-unlocking-economic-potential-informal-businesses/?cid=SHR_BlogSiteTweetable_EN_EXT via @worldbank

Just40:
That will make Kampala more developed than Nairobi

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:51am On Mar 20, 2022
rvp2018:
While the informal economy can provide a temporary, imperfect social safety net, benefits of formalization are clear advantages for informal businesses to move out of operating in the shadow economy. https://blogs.worldbank.org/psd/out-shadows-unlocking-economic-potential-informal-businesses/?cid=SHR_BlogSiteTweetable_EN_EXT via @worldbank

You should use that to help Kenyans so they can get out of poverty like Ghanaians have gotten out, by expanding their businesses with MASLOC loans.

Help your informal workers formalize their trade and get out of poverty like how Ghana has helped it traders ..

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 11:51am On Mar 20, 2022
rvp2018:
Accra remind of Kampala. Seems everywhere is just informal business in-front of formal business. Must be tough being a formal business with kiosks, street vendors and hawkers - paying zero rent and blocking your business - and outcompeting you.



I think have watched some videos of kampala and I can tell you there is a bit of decency in some areas unlike Accra everywhere is chaotic with street hawkers, containers, kiosks, food vendors except in an area which is like 2% of the whole city. It just so messy here.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:54am On Mar 20, 2022
popizaino:



I think have watched some videos of kampala and I can tell you there is a bit of decency in some areas unlike Accra everywhere is chaotic with street hawkers, containers, kiosks, food vendors except in an area which is like 2% of the whole city. It just so messy here.
You like to lie oo

Apart from Circle and Kaneshie, which part of Accra can you call Chaotic?

Why do you think more and more Nigerians are leaving the Chaos of Nigeria with their families to settle in Accra (since you want to compare every town in Nigeria to Neighborhoods in Accra)?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:56am On Mar 20, 2022
Tortured arguments. In kenya informal business are slowly giving way to formal.

Informal retail and wholesales -Kiosks - giving way to supermarkets and malls. Now Kenya is second to South Africa in formalizing retail sector - Naivas just opened their 85th supermarket.

Informal transport - Matatus or Trotros in kenya have been formaized into Saccos. Every Matatu in kenya must belong to SACCO, driver and conductor must wear their badge, and their uniform.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW7HkMuTkCY

We now have problem with Okadas/boda-bodas/motorcyles - that we need to tackle.

Ultimately progressive countries should find a balance - Rwanda has gone to extreme of almost making informal business illegal - Ghana is total chaos with every little space invaded by street vendors.

Just40:

You see how informal your country is with all the hawking and kiosk all around?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 11:56am On Mar 20, 2022
Jamestown123:
Don't just get me started this morning, because you no go like am. What's your main point of posting that yeye hotel. and your expression is something else.

Omo ale, get started so I can see what you are capable of doing?

My main point for posting is your moda

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:58am On Mar 20, 2022
Yes part of kampala are very decent - yes Ghana is extreme. It's like Ibandan city smiley
popizaino:



I think have watched some videos of kampala and I can tell you there is a bit of decency in some areas unlike Accra everywhere is chaotic with street hawkers, containers, kiosks, food vendors except in an area which is like 2% of the whole city. It just so messy here.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 12:00pm On Mar 20, 2022
Just40:
I wonder what will make a person this bitter despite the fact that the only sane place he will ever be able to have a good living is the very same place he feels so bitter about because he was asked to do the right thing.

Such riffraffs are everywhere talking rubbish about Ghana, they are behaving as if they are being forced to live in Ghana.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:01pm On Mar 20, 2022
rvp2018:
Tortured arguments. In kenya informal business are slowly giving way to formal.

Informal retail and wholesales -Kiosks - giving way to supermarkets and malls. Now Kenya is second to South Africa in formalizing retails - Naivas just opened their 85th supermarkets.

Informal transport - Matatus or Trotros in kenya have been formaized into Saccos. Ever Matatu in kenya must belong to SACCO, driver and conductor must wear their badge, and their uniform

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW7HkMuTkCY

We now have problem with Okadas/boda-bodas/motorcyles - that we need to tackle.

Ultimately progressive countries should find a balance - Rwanda has gone to extreme of almost making informal business illegal - Ghana is total chaos with every little space invaded by street vendors.

if that was happening... Your poverty levels wouldn't have increased..

Stop making useless excuses and actually solve your problems.
One thing must affect another positively.

Your poverty levels are increasing because more and more Kenyans are being driven out of competition by monopolies from India who employ very little and pay them peanuts

Here, all transport operators are part of labour unions who advocate for their well being and make massive money.

Unlike the mess that your matatus create in Kenya, here trotros are more organized.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:03pm On Mar 20, 2022
T mall flyover, unique project.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUAUJqdy-ck
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 12:04pm On Mar 20, 2022
I checked Masloc loan - it's a joke - less than 10M dollars annually - big joke
Just40:
You should use that to help Kenyans so they can get out of poverty like Ghanaians have gotten out, by expanding their businesses with MASLOC loans.

Help your informal workers formalize their trade and get out of poverty like how Ghana has helped it traders ..

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 12:05pm On Mar 20, 2022
rvp2018:
Yes part of kampala are very decent - yes Ghana is extreme. It's like Ibandan city smiley

Your own cup of tea

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 12:07pm On Mar 20, 2022
Informal sector can never create any real wealth - it's create floating middle class - that is one COVID away poverty.
This is what is happening in Kenya and many countries now.
Real wealth will start when we transition the economy from informal to formal - so incomes are more predictable.
Why would owned operated transporter belong to labour union - who is their employer? Will they ask the commuters to raise their money
or you mean the transport conductors/drivers?
As always you made tortured arguments like a mad man.
Just40:
if that was happening... Your poverty levels wouldn't have increased..

Stop making useless excuses and actually solve your problems.
One thing must affect another positively.

Your poverty levels are increasing because more and more Kenyans are being driven out of competition by monopolies from India who employ very little and pay them peanuts

Here, all transport operators are part of labour unions who advocate for their well being and make massive money.

Unlike the mess that your matatus create in Kenya, here trotros are more organized.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:10pm On Mar 20, 2022
rvp2018:
I checked Masloc loan - it's a joke - less than 10M dollars annually - big joke
20 million dollars is huge money for petty traders who take it to expand their businesses.

For medium scale businesses, they are being offered between 10,000 dollars to 2 million dollars to purchase machinery from a 20 billion dollars fund to expand their businesses for export.

Can Kenya do same for it massive informal traders and reduces the chaos and mess, all over Kenya and also reduce the 40% extreme poverty ?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:14pm On Mar 20, 2022
rvp2018:
Informal sector can never create any real wealth - it's create floating middle class - that is one COVID away poverty.
This is what is happening in Kenya and many countries now.
Real wealth will start when we transition the economy from informal to formal - so incomes are more predictable.
Why would owned operated transporter belong to labour union - who is their employer? Will they ask the commuters to raise their money
or you mean the transport conductors/drivers?
As always you made tortured arguments like a mad man.
Yes they can

People create sustainable businesses out of it and build house and own cars out of it.

That's is good wealth.

Maybe l, when your govt starts helping Kenyans instead of Indian monopolies, you will finally seen Kenyans rising out of extreme poverty and finding homes instead of being homeless or having dreams to marry Europeans.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 12:14pm On Mar 20, 2022
Yes the Maasai do once in while come to Nairobi during drought season but Nairobi expressway a year and half later is 98 percent complete
https://thebftonline.com/2020/07/03/masloc-disbursed-ghc92m-micro-loans-in-2019/
vankelvin:


Your own cup of tea

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 12:20pm On Mar 20, 2022
The same informal sector can be formalized. Formalized mean if it's hawking - they need to be registered - it's need to be orderly - probably organized into cooperatives - wearing uniforms - it need to respect the right of business owners - you dont just come and set up infront of someone else shop - who is paying taxes. They can also agree with shop owners on time to operate - maybe from 5 pm - when they close shop - they come and set up in the streets.

This what happens in most developed cities - street vendors are allowed to operate in late hours and weekends - then they fold their stuff and disappear in the morning- and then 8-5pm - you let formal business generate taxes.

Otherwise you gotta Ghana like situation with formal sector totally non-existent - and cities look like cattle kraals. Your have almost zero tax collection outside minerals like Nigeria - because formal sector pay taxes - the street hawkers cannot.

Just40:
Yes they can

People create sustainable businesses out of it and build house and own cars out of it.

That's is good wealth.

Maybe l, when your govt starts helping Kenyans instead of Indian monopolies, you will finally seen Kenyans rising out of extreme poverty and finding homes instead of being homeless or having dreams to marry Europeans.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:26pm On Mar 20, 2022
rvp2018:
The same informal sector can be formalized. Formalized mean if it's hawking - they need to be registered - it's need to be orderly - probably organized into cooperatives - wearing uniforms - it need to respect the right of business owners - you dont just come and set up infront of someone else job - who is paying taxes. They can also agree with shop owners on time to operate - maybe from 5 pm - when they close shop - they come and set up in the streets.

Otherwise you gotta Ghana like situation with formal sector totally non-existent - and cities look like cattle kraals.


are they school children to be wearing uniforms?

People who have their own businesses and their petty shops or kiosks are empowered with business loans to expand by acquiring more goods or acquiring bigger shops to expand their trade.

This is how come, market women have become very rich to even enter into real estate and taking their kids to ivy league schools. It is also part of the reason why our poverty levels are low and our slum dwellers are very low.

I want to see this kind of progress in Kenya. So that Kenyan girls don't keep dreaming of marry Europeans before they can get out of poverty
.

We have a good 16 billion dollars tax collection excluding minerals whose income goes into their own funds. Despite the fact that you guys almost have twice our population, your tax collection is below ours.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:27pm On Mar 20, 2022
Just40:
20 million dollars is huge money for petty traders who take it to expand their businesses.

For medium scale businesses, they are being offered between 10,000 dollars to 2 million dollars to purchase machinery from a 20 billion dollars fund to expand their businesses for export.

Can Kenya do same for it massive informal traders and reduces the chaos and mess, all over Kenya and also reduce the 40% extreme poverty?

Drop the link, from a reputable source that says Kenya's poverty rate is 40%.


Don't bring samboro's blog.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 12:29pm On Mar 20, 2022
Just40:
You like to lie oo

Apart from Circle and Kaneshie, which part of Accra can you call Chaotic?

Why do you think more and more Nigerians are leaving the Chaos of Nigeria with their families to settle in Accra (since you want to compare every town in Nigeria to Neighborhoods in Accra)?


Ok.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:30pm On Mar 20, 2022
vankelvin:


Your own cup of tea

Not much damage was done.

Rules were adjusted.

Now Maasais have to bare with the regulations.

But nice pic cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:30pm On Mar 20, 2022
Shma:


Drop the link, from a reputable source that says Kenya's poverty rate is 40%.


Don't bring samboro's blog.
You've seen those links too may times from the World Bank this year alone.

No need for me to bring it back, you can keep living in self denial



The level of poverty and slum dwelling is staggering in your country and it will keep exposing your economy.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 12:34pm On Mar 20, 2022
jl115:
yes I saw that wink Belarus signed an agreement with Proforce, however there isn't any official orders as yet since it could just be a MOM that was signed.

Secondly why would we buy your vehicles when ours are superior in every way??

Oga your zoo ordered our proforce just like Belarus,deal with that laatije.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:35pm On Mar 20, 2022
Just40:
You've seen those links too may times from the World Bank this year alone.

No need for me to bring it back, you can keep living in self denial



The level of poverty and slum dwelling is staggering in your country and it will keep exposing your economy.

I'm also eager to see word bank's new report smiley just go to that link, open, then screenshot. I will not ask for much.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 12:35pm On Mar 20, 2022
samorobo:


Oga your zoo ordered our proforce just like Belarus,deal with that laatije.
nope we never ordered anything from proforce..... But we have sold dozens of vehicles to Nigeria wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:38pm On Mar 20, 2022
popizaino:



Ok.

Why are Nigerians this p*ssy? You always give up too fast on these dwarfs! grin grin... Are you afraid of them or something...?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:41pm On Mar 20, 2022
jl115:
nope we never ordered anything from proforce..... But we have sold dozens of vehicles to Nigeria wink
You are arguing with a grand dimwit who is ready to peddle 1M pages of his own monotonous theorem.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 12:54pm On Mar 20, 2022
Shma:


Why are Nigerians this p*ssy? You always give up too fast on these dwarfs! grin grin... Are you afraid of them or something...?

Pussy and Nigeria in the same sentence? My moniker is scared of Ghanaians? grin. Nobody has called out Ghanaians on this thread as much I have done so, I don't know where you got afraid of from? I'm not just in the mood for back and forth.Some comments induces headache and the best is just to silent it with an ok.

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