oilykid:
It's all about politics. The only way APC will retain power is to hand it to South South candidate. This would make them win votes from SS/SE and even SW (they wouldn't have any practical option). The only moral place to cede the ticket is SE but this is politics, the party is not strong there. SW has no moral right to ask for presidency now but they have positioned themselves well for the ticket. The truth is that no single region can win presidency. Voting blocks in Nigeria remains North/SE-SS/SW. Any of the two combined would defeat the third.
The SW media wing is actually pushing Igbos to demand for presidency from PDP and Igbos shouldn't fall for this. Reason is this, apart from the bad blood caused by IPOB, APC is the incumbent party. Why would APC Kaduna leave APC candidate to vote for PDP SE candidate. A SW presidency means a longer wait for SE (16years).

The political move SE can make now is to join forces with Northern PDP and win 2023. Build bridges and position themselves for 2031. Be ready to get jabs on nairaland from SW that Igbos are only good for vice presidency or are Fulani slaves. Don't be moved by these. That's the only solution and Yorubas played it in 2015. A Yoruba candidate wouldn't have stood a chance against any SS/SE candidate of PDP in 2015 as the incumbent party would have deployed their machinery to crush them. They wouldn't also stand a chance if PDP is incumbent party in 2031 with an Igbo presidential candidate.

This is the truth an Igbo with his emotional part wouldn't want to hear or a cunny Yoruba wouldn't want people to know.

M1Garand:


And by 2031, Yoruba joins forces with Northern APC to deny SE the ticket? How you see am? God's willing the political gladiators in 8 - 10 years time are the Minister's, Governor's and Senators of which the SE is doing little to have chain of leaders with actual political clout. The east should be building relationship in politics and not play politics of hate.

oilykid:

But yorubas did the same in 2015 and nobody called it politics of hate. Igbos wants to get right this time by building bridges with northerners in 2023 by supporting Atiku

safarigirl:



Tinubu cannot take the seat, because Tinubu is clueless as regards economy

What he knows how to do is make more money for his family to eat and haemorrhage the economy to fuel his supporters club. He is not knowledgeable in economics and I cannot recommend such a person.

He is one of those being bandied about on the altar of regional politics.

I am not even totally against regional politics, but for the love of God, can these regions not find more capable hands than these clowns they are touting?

We are experiencing economic suicide in this country currently, and these parties are just out here sourcing for power. They do not care that the economy is in shambles, they are not sending out their best hands for the good of the country, they are only looking at who is most likely to get them power and it is so disappointing that some of us are stuck in Nigeria with such idiots.

This country is on life support, and we are casually discussing politics as if we are not living in a nation where the power situation is woeful, fuel is increasing and people cannot even afford one decent meal.

I am incensed

oilykid:

But yorubas did the same in 2015 and nobody called it politics of hate. Igbos wants to get right this time by building bridges with northerners in 2023 by supporting Atiku

Cyntie55:
We need someone who can put an end to this hardship in Nigeria and also take Nigeria to a greater heights.

Tinubu isn't the preferred candidate we need at the moment, we need someone physically fit.

GboyegaD:
One question though, is Katsina not in the North? That said, is PDP stating they can't find a reputable candidate from the South that can win the election?

Those supporting Tambuwal are indirectly supporting the North and endorsing them again as superior which was what Ojukwu fought against.

oilykid:

Samething that northerners and yorubas did hating GEJ and everyone that supported GEJ.including calling GEj and ijaw people drunkards

tctrills:

Let's face it, the easiest way PDP can win this election is by giving power to the north.

GboyegaD:


Why can't they win with a Southerner? Are we saying we can't find a credible person from amongst us?

GboyegaD:
One question though, is Katsina not in the North? That said, is PDP stating they can't find a reputable candidate from the South that can win the election?

Those supporting Tambuwal are indirectly supporting the North and endorsing them again as superior which was what Ojukwu fought against.

GboyegaD:


Why can't they win with a Southerner? Are we saying we can't find a credible person from amongst us?

GboyegaD:
One question though, is Katsina not in the North? That said, is PDP stating they can't find a reputable candidate from the South that can win the election?

Those supporting Tambuwal are indirectly supporting the North and endorsing them again as superior which was what Ojukwu fought against.

Kpengla:


Why wont you vote your mother's concubine...Didinrin oshi, werey alatenuje.

Na God go punish you and all your bastard hopeless ancestors join

oilykid:
It's all about politics. The only way APC will retain power is to hand it to South South candidate. This would make them win votes from SS/SE and even SW (they wouldn't have any practical option). The only moral place to cede the ticket is SE but this is politics, the party is not strong there. SW has no moral right to ask for presidency now but they have positioned themselves well for the ticket. The truth is that no single region can win presidency. Voting blocks in Nigeria remains North/SE-SS/SW. Any of the two combined would defeat the third.
The SW media wing is actually pushing Igbos to demand for presidency from PDP and Igbos shouldn't fall for this. Reason is this, apart from the bad blood caused by IPOB, APC is the incumbent party. Why would APC Kaduna leave APC candidate to vote for PDP SE candidate. A SW presidency means a longer wait for SE (16years).

The political move SE can make now is to join forces with Northern PDP and win 2023. Build bridges and position themselves for 2031. Be ready to get jabs on nairaland from SW that Igbos are only good for vice presidency or are Fulani slaves. Don't be moved by these. That's the only solution and Yorubas played it in 2015. A Yoruba candidate wouldn't have stood a chance against any SS/SE candidate of PDP in 2015 as the incumbent party would have deployed their machinery to crush them. They wouldn't also stand a chance if PDP is incumbent party in 2031 with an Igbo presidential candidate.

This is the truth an Igbo with his emotional part wouldn't want to hear or a cunny Yoruba wouldn't want people to know.

tctrills:

That's not the point. APC is bringing out a southerner so if PDP brings out a northerner, it's much easier to win. PDP is already dominant in the SS and SE so having a northern candidate gives then the advantage.

GboyegaD:


Why can't they win with a Southerner? Are we saying we can't find a credible person from amongst us?

tunjilana:

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If SE fails to demand for PDP ticket in 2023...then all the noise about marginalisation should stop...cos they are the problem...how hard is it for them to have a strong consensus candidate and back him totally...and use that to negotiate and insist for ticket...everything currently works in the favor of South East but rather than strategic on getting it...u are focused on another party where south east is not predominant.

I think what the Igbos need is to get a good candidate and speak with one voice behind him and get a strong northern candidate as vice president...If the 2 parties zone their ticket to the south....it becomes a fair thing for Nigeria as a whole...And ur analysis about 2031 is childish, in politics alignment and realignment happen often and the southwest will also not go to sleep....what Igbos really need is unity....see as much as the SW knows that Osinbajo is a great choice...since Tinubu spoke, no other strong contender has spoken and even if he will have to drop for another, it will be via internal discussions to agree....thatbis what Igbos lack...everyone want to be Oga....things don't work that way...U stoop to conquer...u align to have on3 voice[/s]

TheBeat:

Same thing here bro. Truth is that Igbos deserve it or even SS to complete their term. Projecting Tinubu to take over from Buhari is what will lead us to 16 years Northern rule. I'm glad PDP understands this. APC has no moral right to hand over ticket to North. It will go to South and looks like Tinubu will have it. SE must play SW type of politics in 2015....this will position the zone well for 2027/31 election. It's either SE or we continue the madness. Both parties should zone to SE in all fairness but if you want to be politically smart, then SE will play the spoiler as you did in 2015

oilykid:

Yorubas are not just united but they also hate theirselves. Obasanjo and olu falae fought over the ticket when it was zoned to them.

Akintola and Awolowo were sworn enemies in history,even now tinubu still have yorubas who are against his ambitions. Stop making it be an igbo affair cause humans will always disagree and fight each other including same families.

Yorubas did not demand for the Apc ticket in 2015 cause they knew they had no chances of winning GEJ then but they had to support buhari in order to get northerners support in 2023 and that's the samething igbos should next year..

tunjilana:

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U still don't get it...Yorubas rally behind people...Akintola and Awolowo were allies b4 the fall out...yorubas understand structure and are cool with leadership and followership...they understand that even if more than one person is competent, rich, sellable, smart e.t.c...only one person can rule...and they seek internal consensus most times....In the case if Obasanjo and Falae....Falae was the consensus yoruba candidate as at 1999...Obasanjo, though a yoruba man, was the candidate of other Nigerians...infact he didnt even win his local govt....it is not hatred, he wasn't just the rallying point and he knew it, hence the need to bully himself in by 2003...and also the controversial death of Bola Ige...the toruba political structures were simply behind Falae....Today, the yoruba political structures are mainly aligned behind Tinubu...while Osinbajo may be a good candidate, he will still need to align and dialogue with Tinubu so one of them leverages the structure....thequestion to u is where is the Igbo political structure and who are they aligned for, at this time...u keep giving to PDP but not as one front but as individuals incapable of negotiating enbloc for the region....until that is fixed, you will keep thinking the problem is with other Nigerians[/s]

tunjilana:


Then the focus here is politics if hate...u have a party where u have invested so much, which is pdp...the current zoning arrangement favors SE cos it is naturally their turn but rather than seek to actualize it within PDP, where u have massively supported since 1999...u believe it is APC where u have no strong foot that u shud demand for the ticket...and rather than do the work needed to get it in the party where u have toiled, u rather focus on another party...only to continue blaming Nigeria for marginalisation

oilykid:

Only one person can but Awolowo and abiola nearly annihilated theirselves due to their ambition. Which igbo have done that before cause of politics. Like I said,2023 is for igbos to build political structure by supporting Atiku and then get the presidency back after atiku is over .Any igbo contesting this time will shall just like yorubas would have lost in 2015 if they had gone to contest against GEJ. They understood the assignment and they had to support buhari for them to get buharis support in 2023

tunjilana:


Party politics is about stake...as a politician u want to focus on delivering ur state for ur party so that u can be relevant when sharing the dividends....except u are already one leg in , one leg out and planning to decamp...the APC governors in the North will not massively align behind a northern candidate from another party...cos of greed and selfishness....they will also want to stay where they are sure of returns

tctrills:

The governors can only vote once. The Hausas would vote for their man not minding who their governor is. PDP can never beat APC with an Igbo candidate or a SS candidate and they know it.

SeeItSayIt:


You lied, just speak for yourself