Capaldi:

Hogwash. No body here credited Jorginho solely for Italy Euros triumph. He played his part and was praised for it. The failure is on the whole Italian squad and especially Mancini for not beating a garbage Macedonia team.

Exonerate1:


Imagine lying to push your agenda, only game Italy packed bus was against Spain throughout the Euros

izzou:
I still insist that Jorginho fanboys are the ones putting him up for drags.

Yes, 2021 was his year, and that's it. We are happy for him, and there's nothing exceptional he does or brings.

But no, you guys will sing his praises at any slightest opportunity, as if we no dey watch other DMs

If it was Horjtout that beautifully escorted a bloody Macedonian to victory, Una go don line up like students wey wan do match past for Inter house sports.

Jorginho is just Jorginho: Nothing exceptional. Was fortunate to be in Italy and Chelsea in 2021.

I hope his contract isn't renewed, so he can go and meet Pep Guardolia

Ennyjay69:
i guess you are new here

izzou:
I still insist that Jorginho fanboys are the ones putting him up for drags.

Yes, 2021 was his year, and that's it. We are happy for him, and there's nothing exceptional he does or brings.

But no, you guys will sing his praises at any slightest opportunity, as if we no dey watch other DMs

If it was Horjtout that beautifully escorted a bloody Macedonian to victory, Una go don line up like students wey wan do match past for Inter house sports.

Jorginho is just Jorginho: Nothing exceptional. Was fortunate to be in Italy and Chelsea in 2021.

I hope his contract isn't renewed, so he can go and meet Pep Guardolia

Skimpledawg:

Him just come.

Bluemann will show him around

YoungZee1:
Can u list DM's in elite clubs doing execptional tinx dat "j5" has not done.

Ibime:


My eye dey pain me abeg help me clarify. As this ball drop here, shebi pesin wey run go reach am. Who come dey jog like this?

[img]https:///media/3-24-2022/X2vYSw.gif[/img]

YoungZee1:
What are u doing here..or manyooo dnt hav official fans thread

izzou:


The same thing I just mentioned. When names are mentioned, you will start to rub medals and trophies on my face, which would make him elite....

At least you saw him last night, when it mattered. Emphasis on "when it mattered"

Him and Donnafraudma can go and rest. They were definitely carry-along players all these while

YoungZee1:
What are u doing here..or manyooo dnt hav official fans thread

izzou:
I still insist that Jorginho fanboys are the ones putting him up for drags.

Yes, 2021 was his year, and that's it. We are happy for him, and there's nothing exceptional he does or brings.

But no, you guys will sing his praises at any slightest opportunity, as if we no dey watch other DMs

If it was Horjtout that beautifully escorted a bloody Macedonian to victory, Una go don line up like students wey wan do match past for Inter house sports.

Jorginho is just Jorginho: Nothing exceptional. Was fortunate to be in Italy and Chelsea in 2021.

I hope his contract isn't renewed, so he can go and meet Pep Guardolia

Emaprince:
Just because they were lucky to win England on PK.

Kante did all the work in our UCL midfield. Winning MOM in tough matches including the final, yet na that sloth praises we dey hear.

Some one that easily break under pressure..is that one a DM. Not that he is exceptional in brilliant passes. Just side way passes to whoever that is nearest to him.

onyemaair:

You mean kante right? Many people here did not watch viera but based on achievement, I will pick kante. Kante has achieved more than viera.

Skimpledawg:

The fact that you have to repeat this again and they still won't see the sense in it beats me.

Instead of Baba to tackle or drag the opponent down, he raised his hands up like a Pentecostal Choir master directing an Orchestra.

Tomorrow, he will score penalty, and they would bring DJ Exclusive here to come and perform.

Very lucky player. That's who Jorginho is. Grace just dey follow am

Emaprince:
Just because they were lucky to win England on PK.

Kante did all the work in our UCL midfield. Winning MOM in tough matches including the final, yet na that sloth praises we dey hear.

Some one that easily break under pressure..is that one a DM. Not that he is exceptional in brilliant passes. Just side way passes to whoever that is nearest to him.

Skimpledawg:

Lmao.

Same. Kante that has regressed according to the Admin of 'leprous 5'

izzou:
I still insist that Jorginho fanboys are the ones putting him up for drags.
Yes, 2021 was his year, and that's it. We are happy for him, and there's nothing exceptional he does or brings.
But no, you guys will sing his praises at any slightest opportunity, as if we no dey watch other DMs

If it was Horjtout that beautifully escorted a bloody Macedonian to victory, Una go don line up like students wey wan do match past for Inter house sports.
Jorginho is just Jorginho: Nothing exceptional. Was fortunate to be in Italy and Chelsea in 2021.
I hope his contract isn't renewed, so he can go and meet Pep Guardolia

donjazet:


Soo many false premises to unpack here.
First of all, go back and look at all the jorginho arguments that have taken place here, you will see that those encounters were initiated by someone wrongfully criticizing jorginho leading us to defend the irrational criticism. In other words, people who defend jorginho don't set him up for drags but defend the wrongful drags.

Secondly, I've always said that when it comes to football, it's always difficult to judge and single out the efficacy of a single player because football is afterall a team sports that comprises 11 players on a pitch. Apart from exceptional goalscorers who are obvious talismen for their teams, whose goals can be used to measure points won for the team, it's difficult to judge the difference other players make to the team.

For instance, when it comes to a DM, you ask yourself, what is, really the role of a DM in your team. Anybody with a good sense of football will tell you, "it depends on the footballing philosophy being applied by that particular team". You have someone here telling you that players like Xabi alonso, Andre pirlo, cesc fabregas, iniesta, Jorginho alfrello, Rodrigo are all escorts who cost their team more than they give or are passengers, how do you take such a fella seriously? You look at that last line and see all those illustrious names in football, players who have played and excelled in the very best teams and all won the highest honors in football and someone comes and tells you, these players are all useless. How do you not respond to such fallacy??

As for jorginho, I ask you again,how do you know a player is good, is it not by personal stat and records set by that individual? Is this not the universally accepted metric in all sports in the world.
You have a player who holds multiple records in top competitions, how then do you call such a player useless??

Emaprince:
Just because they were lucky to win England on PK.

Kante did all the work in our UCL midfield. Winning MOM in tough matches including the final, yet na that sloth praises we dey hear

Some one that easily break under pressure..is that one a DM. Not that he is exceptional in brilliant passes. Just side way passes to whoever that is nearest to him.

donjazet:

For instance, when it comes to a DM, you ask yourself, what is, really the role of a DM in your team. Anybody with a good sense of football will tell you, "it depends on the footballing philosophy being applied by that particular team". You have someone here telling you that players like Xabi alonso, Andre pirlo, cesc fabregas, iniesta, Jorginho alfrello, Rodrigo are all escorts who cost their team more than they give or are passengers, how do you take such a fella seriously?

donjazet:


Another fallacy that we love to parrot. I don't believe in the act of pulling down a person in order to praise another person but let's unpack this statement.

Because all of us are enamored with kante, his introversion, his humility, his simple mindedness, we tend to sometimes over exaggerate his input.

For example, look at this match below, our semifinal match against Madrid which we won, kante was awarded the man of the match but looking at every statistics index, jorginho overperformed kante and was shown to be the best player on the pitch. But that kante bias robbed jorginho of his deserved recognition.

Just like the fabled kante twins. You know, our languid praise of him being able to cover the earth, but looking at the tournament stat, we are seeing that jorginho actually had the most distance covered in the competition. Showing his impressive stamina. Not only that, jorginho had the most interceptions in the tournament, not only that, he also had the most tackles.

Jorginho created more chances than kante, scored more goals than kante. As a matter of fact, in almost every conceivably metric, both attacking and defensive, jorginho had the upper hand on kante but no, armchair pundits want us to think, jorginho was just a passenger while kante was the driver.
Ahh, those kante-tinted glasses. Mind you, I'm not hating on kante, Im just breaking down this myth that kante is the one covering jorginho when in reality, the reverse is obviously the case.

PDPGuy:

Did you see that open net that the US striker, Pefok, missed?

Exonerate1:


Against Switzerland, ireland and Macedonia they dominated those games, created chances but their attackers kept missing them.

If you can't beat ordinary North macedonia, you shouldn't even be playing in the world cup

izzou:


Show us how Jorginho was better than Kante in that match.

These are facts, unless you want to tell us you and Whoscored know better than UEFA that organized and gave the MOTM

izzou:


This was the most painful.

Kante was scooping MOTM till the finals, yet it was his praises we were hearing.

They have all gone quiet after seeing the nonsense he caused yesterday.

Which top tier DM won't get to that ball when it dropped?

The snail still dey raise hand like conductor wey wan carry passenger for bus stop

lordfalcao:


Nobody every claimed lacazette is the reincarnation of Suarez like you did below



Belloti in the seria A : 5 G/A
Lacazette in the epl: 11 G/A

lordfalcao:
goals is the matrix to judging strikers first before any other thing

donjazet:


Again,I'm not saying kante played badly, I'm telling you jorginho did more.
Classic colorful encomiums like these highlight the best and blur other aspects, for example, a line of praise singled out there said, kante won all his aerial duels, when you look further into it, you see that kante made ONLY TWO aerial duels. So why pick out that line to praise him, some players made 9 aerial duels and won 6, him winning 2 duels is it really worth praising, that's how stats are used for propaganda.
I told you that on the overall, tournament wise, jorginho outperformed not just kante but all other midfielders in the competition in key metrics. You can argue the rest with facts.